The Old Mission Dam in San Diego - A Trip Back in Time

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The Old Mission Dam in San Diego's Mission Trails Regional Park has been around for a long time. Construction started in 1803, when the area was a territory of Spain, and when completed it helped to bring a stable water supply to Mission San Diego.
The dam wasn't in use long, with Mexico ending the age of the missions in the 1830s, the dam was repaired and put back into use a few times in the late 1800s. Now, it is a California and National Historic landmark, and probably the oldest dam in the state.
In this video we take a look around the dam, talk about its history, and head downstream to a site where evidence of pre-contact use by the Kumeyaay people is very visible.
The Old Mission Dam is located at: 32.83965074122955, -117.04287051669394
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@keithsellers7166
@keithsellers7166 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in the Santee area and went to High school at Santana in the 60’s. As a kid my friends and I would ride our bicycles to the dam and fish for crawdads with bacon tied on a string. We also caught crappie and blue gill that my mom would cook for us. One year the river flooded the dam area and my buddy and I were out there at the dam and was standing on top of the part of it that you show in your video with the water running through it. On that day a reporter from the San Diego Union and Evening Tribune wax there. Back in those days there were two newspapers one in the morning ( San Diego Union) and in the evening ( The Evening Tribune) he was taking pictures of the flooding and took our pictures while we were standing on the dam ! I had a paper route delivering the San Diego Union in Carlton Hills and to my surprise when I got the papers to roll for delivery my picture was on the front page below the fold!!!! That brings back a lot of memories for me because I had explored all over that area. One of the mountains back behind the dam was nick named rattlesnake mountain because of all of the snakes on it. A guy I went to school with (Jim Davis) and his father captured the rattlers and would milk them for the venom and sell it to Scripts Ranch for serum to treat snake bites. There was always a story going around back then too that talked about there being a Spanish cannon in a cave up there somewhere, but I think it was just a myth because we hiked all over that place and never found it. It was a fun time growing up in Santee, there was always something different to do. You were never too far from the beach the Cuyamaca Mountains, the dessert Tijuana Mexico or a quick trip up to Disneyland, knotts Berry Farm or The Wax Museum. It was a great place to grow up.... oh the memories your video conjured up... thank you Steve!
@duleybraza4558
@duleybraza4558 4 ай бұрын
I had some similar experiences on the other side of the country, at about the same time, catching crayfish, bluegill and snapping turtles in Virginia. My friend and I found ruins with concrete bunker like shapes buried under leaves and surrounded by trees. We later discovered that it was a POW camp at one time. This was near the Ft Hunt area. I think we had more freedom as kids then, than we do as adults.
@robertlyman9789
@robertlyman9789 3 ай бұрын
Bet it sure different now
@timarnold7239
@timarnold7239 2 ай бұрын
I grew up in San Carlos-Patrick Henry HS Class of '72. After 1st Mod, we had 2 hours of what the school called "open mod" when students who had cars could go off campus. We used to head straight out Golfcrest Drive to Mission Gorge Road and out to either the dam, or that abandoned access road off Padre Junipero Serra Road that took you across the river (if you had a a lift kit) to the north quarry. Both locales were good for getting high. But maybe you County boys were more wholesome than us prevert city folk, eh? heh heh heh... We fished there too. Mostly in the quarry pond. Snagged a few cat fish and bass on stink bait. Did you or your friends ever ride on that old manual 4 seat cable tram that spanned the gorge? Good ol' days.
@keithsellers7166
@keithsellers7166 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I was pretty young when the pictures in the SD Union appeared. But visited often after that it was also a very popular make out spot…. Need I say more?
@DW-qe7qe
@DW-qe7qe Жыл бұрын
Forgot about the Padre Dam until you brought back a flood of memories. A bunch of us used to ride dirt bike motorcycles around the area below Black Mountain as we called it. There was nothing but open space between Navajo and Mission Gorge back then and we had loads of fun. Several times we rode over to the Dam to explore. Never knew about the rocks where the natives ground their food. And the Dam area looks the same now as it did 55 years ago. Thank you for the memories.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Жыл бұрын
I found a picture of it from the 30s and it looked the same too.
@TheStuport
@TheStuport Жыл бұрын
Feels like The Old Mission Dam is really out in the middle of nowhere...yet as you mentioned Steve, it is literally 15 minutes away from multiple Walmarts. What a Treasure for San Diego! This was a fun hike and very interesting story! Really appreciate the time and effort you put into your videos Steve. It's quite obvious this is a labor of love for you AND We Fans do not take it for granted! Cheers From Ohio
@conniewojahn6445
@conniewojahn6445 Жыл бұрын
I don't take any of Steve's videos for granted, that's for sure. Can't wait for Wednesday when he uploads new. I live in Oregon and find southern California to be too dry and, well, ugly, for my tastes in nature. But since viewing his videos, I've come to appreciate the climate and terrain there as part of the greater ecosystem of North America. Good videos can change people's minds.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate it. Yeah, the park is really an island of wilderness in the city.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@1nvisible1
@1nvisible1 Жыл бұрын
*Cool find, hey @**2:39** on the 15 ton boulder dedicated May 17 1941, the word "PADRES" and "INDIANS" were edited into the ground down original which had said 'first permanent irrigation project by white men in california'! BIG THANKS to Larry Stirling of San Diego Council who got that changed* "OLD MISSION DAM BUILT 1813 - 1816 A PART OF THE FIRST PERMANENT IRRIGATION PROJECT BY PADRES AND INDIANS IN CALIFORNIA MARKER PLACED BY THE SAN DIEGO CHAPTER, DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION MAY 17TH, 1941"
@corn677
@corn677 11 ай бұрын
@@SidetrackAdventures Hey Steve, any cool hidden treasures on the climb up Cowles Mountain that would be worth a video. Really appreciate your videos. They are all really cool. We go to Laughlin a few times a year and your vids about the towns and hidden treasures along the I-40 corridor are awesome. You make us realize you can find wonderful stuff just about anywhere. I live in Allied Gardens and love hiking in Mission Trails park.
@russell-di8js
@russell-di8js 18 күн бұрын
Just want to say thanks for always giving us the chance to pause the video's so we can read any interesting plaques you come across. I felt like i wanted to lie beside the water & drift asleep imagining food grinding while children played.
@rickkaylor8554
@rickkaylor8554 Жыл бұрын
I was just here Monday on a hike after work. You do feel like you are far away from civilization on some of the trails but it is an illusion. Unfortunately Mission Trails park is being loved to death. So many people are using it. The good thing is that there must be a lot of people who pick up the trash on the trails because I rarely see any. Graffiti is also minimal (except for the toilets near the dam). Probably my favorite hike is Oak Canyon. Thanks for making these informative and entertaining videos.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Жыл бұрын
Oh man, there is a big boulder on Father Junipero Serra Rd, near the rock climbing trail, and several times I've been down there and have seen that someone has spraypainted it. Makes me so mad, but they are quick to get it off but you can still tell it was there. The people who do trail work etc are amazing though. I too rarely see trash.
@knappdaddy
@knappdaddy Жыл бұрын
So cool to see the area so well preserved !
@donalddodson7365
@donalddodson7365 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, Steve. Thanks for highlighting our San Diego history and great scenery. I appreciate your balanced research and acknowledging the difficulties with the Spanish colonialization.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, I really appreciate it.
@MichaelTitera
@MichaelTitera Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video, San Diego Steve! As a kid, I always mistakenly thought the building on Presidio Hill was Mission San Diego. Not until I became an adult did I find out that Presidio Hill was just the original site of the mission. It is now the location of the Junipero Serra Museum, which stands prominently atop the hill overlooking historic Old Town State Park and Mission Valley. The Junipero Serra Museum contains thousands of artifacts unearthed from this historic site.
@stjo4756
@stjo4756 Жыл бұрын
I grew up there , I wish now I had spent more time exploring. Thank you.
@harrisric128
@harrisric128 Жыл бұрын
Lots of water down there this year. Love that place
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Жыл бұрын
Someone told me it said "savages" but I don't know for sure. Been trying to find an old picture of it.
@SpanishEclectic
@SpanishEclectic Жыл бұрын
I've heard the name Padre Dam for years, but never knew where it was located. Nice you were able to get some shots with water pouring through, and wildflowers blooming on the hillsides. I recall a picture on display at the 70th Street trolley station that showed the historic trade routes and trails of the native people all through Mission Valley. The last time I was there it was gone...I wish I'd taken a photo of it. All of this history is so interesting and I appreciate your honest and sensitive treatment of the subject. My relative of mine actually has grinding stones and pictographs above the creek at the edge of her property in East El Cajon. They had experts from SDSU and Museum of Man out to look at them.
@michaelduszynski4128
@michaelduszynski4128 Жыл бұрын
Some traces of the flume are visible behind the 5th green at the Admiral Baker North Course, as well as a bit further upstream in the quarry area.
@zygmuntziokowski7877
@zygmuntziokowski7877 3 ай бұрын
When I lived in San Diego in the 70's, I visited the Mission of San Diege several time, but never the dam area, Thanks for sharing.
@pisacksen
@pisacksen Жыл бұрын
Great content, as usual. You are an excellent story teller! I cannot wait for your videos to be released on Wednesdays. Keep up the great work.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@CactusAtlas
@CactusAtlas Жыл бұрын
Fantastic area! The running water is super relaxing and that old dam! Truly fascinating old history to the location. 👍
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Жыл бұрын
Yeah, its usually nice and peaceful on weekdays. Weekends are another story lol
@michaelmccleary4665
@michaelmccleary4665 4 ай бұрын
All these episodes are very good day trips, well done...
@paulscanter5562
@paulscanter5562 Жыл бұрын
That Grinding Stones trail you show at 7:00 was closed off for years as was much of the trail around the river. My wife and I used to picnic right there on the rocks in the late '80s and early '90s. Beautiful place.
@conniewojahn6445
@conniewojahn6445 Жыл бұрын
Nice memories!
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Жыл бұрын
Wow, I wonder if they were doing any archaeology work there at the time.
@paulscanter5562
@paulscanter5562 Жыл бұрын
@@SidetrackAdventures, habitat recovery I think. Actually I didn’t know they had reopened that area and I still don’t know how much of it they did open.
@yamaracer991
@yamaracer991 Жыл бұрын
Wow Steve, I literally started traveling around that area every other day about 2 months ago, I deliver fuel to the Sycuan fuel station over on Dehesa Rd in El Cajon. I come from the North coming down 15S to the 8E and when I leave I take 8W to the 67N to 52W back to 15N. Gonna definitely try and check out Dam one of these days just gonna have to find room to park my Rig lol. Great Video sir.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Жыл бұрын
If you go on the weekday you can probably park it on Father Junipero Serra Rd with no problems. The fire department does training in the area and I see fire trucks parked there all the time.
@gilochoa2980
@gilochoa2980 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for taking everyone on your travels. It is so interesting and you are a wonderful storyteller.
@richardmcgrew2167
@richardmcgrew2167 Жыл бұрын
Live just a few miles from this spot. Enjoy your explorations.
@jdrosner1
@jdrosner1 7 ай бұрын
Back in 1967 our family moved from Fanita Drive to Wistful Vista, a short bike ride to Mission Trails Park and the dam. Back then they had just opened up the new Mission Gorge Road, but what is now Junipero Serra Trail was the old Mission Gorge and was still open to traffic. The park was just a small parking lot and no buildings, signage or organized trails. I knew every rock on the south side of the dam, and my fishing spot was the little protrusion next to the spillway as seen @3:48.Garter snakes, bullfrogs, crayfish, pollywogs, bluegill, jackrabbits and redtail hawks were abundant. Much of the north side of the dam was covered in scrub oak and tamarisk, and only a handful of us local kids ever explored that part. After a hot day of riding down there and back, we could stop at a local water bottling company and just guzzle from the spigots they had out front. After enjoying that for a year, we then moved to the avocado covered Rattlesnake Mountain on the Lakeside side.
@Smarty1171
@Smarty1171 Жыл бұрын
Once again. Top notch sound editing. Thanks.
@janblake9468
@janblake9468 Жыл бұрын
I attended San Diego State College in the 1960's. I knew about the dam, and the mission, but never went there. Thank you.
@u4riahsc
@u4riahsc Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, back in the 50s, early 60s, we used to play there.
@semiproactive9625
@semiproactive9625 Жыл бұрын
That is an old dam, damn. Thank Steve for another fun hike and I'm not even sore.
@sumgai2585
@sumgai2585 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if you already covered it but once around WW2 a Navy Aircraft had to ditch in Otay Lake. The story of its recovery is full of intrigue as well.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Жыл бұрын
I haven't done a video on it. Recently I've seen a book just of plane crashes in San Diego County that I want to check out.
@elsupremo3651
@elsupremo3651 Жыл бұрын
I just visited the site of a B-24-or some experimental version thereof-crash in a neighborhood just off Rosecrans beyond the airport. House is still there!
@mikeifyouplease
@mikeifyouplease Жыл бұрын
Be sure to check out the San Inez Mission and Mission Purisima. Both are amazing. Also, Solvang is adjacent to the first mission. Don't forget to go to the Solvang Restaurant and have a breakfast of Danish sausage and Æbleskivers! You can't say you've been to Solvang if you haven't eaten those!! Danish Days is the absolute best time to go! The 22 mile drive between the two missions is one of the most beautiful. You feel like you are driving through a beautiful oil painting landscape. A great place to stay is the Split Pea Inn. They have awesome morning authentic Danishes. Good prices; nice people. Next door is the Split Pea Restaurant (no connection). A lot of history there! Be sure to get the split pea soup with "All the Fixings", so worth it!
@felipericketts
@felipericketts Жыл бұрын
It would be nice to connect the history of the Alta Californian missions with the missions in Baja California. This connection is often missed and many people don't realize that the San Diego mission was not the first in the chain. Thanks for sharing your stories. I enjoy it greatly as it gives me a sense that I am part of something that is vast, beatiful and ancient.
@janohare916
@janohare916 Жыл бұрын
Mission Trails Regional Park is big and beautiful, and I remember it with great affection. Wish I were there right now!
@danaowen9014
@danaowen9014 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for finding these old places that we would never known excisted.
@billscott356
@billscott356 Жыл бұрын
Just for fun, brought up Google maps. Set position at the park headquarters and did a search for "walmart". Exactly one (Murphy Canyon) came up with a 15 minute driving time. The Grossmont store showed nearly the same distance, but driving time was not indicated. After closing the search panel to see more map (without re-scaling) additional Walmart's didn't appear but up to three Costco's were in plain view. Steve's commentary was so funny I just had to do it.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Жыл бұрын
No one goes the speed limit on those roads though!
@MrRick123468
@MrRick123468 Жыл бұрын
I went there many times as a kid growing up in San Diego,,,,, WOW! What memories... It was called Padres Dam back then,,,
@marks.schwartz8468
@marks.schwartz8468 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for bring back fond memories, Steve !!! Another great video !!! :)
@fearsomebeard4290
@fearsomebeard4290 Жыл бұрын
San Diego is really just the best. I’m so grateful I live here.
@ksr1177
@ksr1177 Жыл бұрын
Another great video and history lesson Steve. Thanks again.
@cindystrachan8566
@cindystrachan8566 Жыл бұрын
Love the great videos, the little snippets of relevant history and the maps of the area. Wish I had the money to visit all these great places, but since I can’t I’ll rely in your great content to see them. Thank you.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words.
@andrewpates
@andrewpates Жыл бұрын
Great video & especially from the 8:15 mark on truly beautiful, moving & funny, thank you!
@lindagrimmett6564
@lindagrimmett6564 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful historic place!I need to head west!
@D.Frasure
@D.Frasure Жыл бұрын
I used to live in Poway many years ago, enjoyed the video.
@trumer-and-co
@trumer-and-co Жыл бұрын
Love seeing all of these areas that I didn't know where there. Thanks for another adventure!
@afletchermansson4418
@afletchermansson4418 Жыл бұрын
Steve, your postings about San Diego County topics are really a trip in Mr. Peabody's wayback machine for me! We learned about metates and grinding acorns way back at John Paul Jones Elementary in the 1960s. And as I recall, ground acorns tasted like crap! Thanks for the reminder of the past!
@conniewojahn6445
@conniewojahn6445 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I've often wondered what acorns taste like. No wonder squirrels in my area (Oregon) like peanuts so much and leave acorns alone unless they're starving.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think we did that at my school in the 80s too, and I don't remember them tasting too good either.
@agp7073
@agp7073 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your adventures Steve. Keep them coming. Thanks!
@mr_peach7704
@mr_peach7704 Жыл бұрын
Great job on both the beauty and the history of the area. Mission Trails was totally unknown to me until I moved to the area. It’s really something special. I always laugh at how many people flock to Cowles Mtn every weekend. If they only knew…
@oneeyedjack8525
@oneeyedjack8525 Жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff ,love your videos. Good history lessons. Keep them coming
@eileenirwin2778
@eileenirwin2778 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another informative and interesting video, Steve. Keep 'em coming. ❤
@milt6208
@milt6208 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir. As always.
@jarhead6153
@jarhead6153 Жыл бұрын
Another awesome vid…!!! Thanks for the history tour.
@MrBob714
@MrBob714 Жыл бұрын
I'm from that area and went there when I was a kid to swim and fish, 55 years ago.
@tristanflores1069
@tristanflores1069 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this piece of history, really enjoyed it
@the_spikerman3764
@the_spikerman3764 Жыл бұрын
Awesome videos, keep em coming my man
@AndrewGrey22
@AndrewGrey22 Жыл бұрын
I really like how you narrate vids brother. You seem like a cool dude who would make a great neighbor. I enjoy all these topics.
@kurtweiand7086
@kurtweiand7086 Жыл бұрын
That was a Damm good episode 😁, thanks 😊!
@IndridCool54
@IndridCool54 Жыл бұрын
Very cool! Love the indigenous history! 👍🏼
@c.t.turner2123
@c.t.turner2123 Жыл бұрын
Great Work. Love learning History
@richardbeee
@richardbeee Жыл бұрын
That was cool. You can still see the notches where they had the wooden planks across the mouth of the dam to make the water deeper. Incredible. Catch you next time, i always enjoy these little sidetrack adventures🙂
@nutthrower4415
@nutthrower4415 Жыл бұрын
This was great, thanks again for sharing your experiences
@mawi1172
@mawi1172 Жыл бұрын
You're so funny! 🤣😂🤣😂 At the end there about being so close to home. 😂😂😂keepin' it real, huh? 😘😘😘. I want to visit San Diego now.
@WeeklyHero
@WeeklyHero Жыл бұрын
I revert going there once as a kid to catch crawfish with my dad. Thanks for the memory!
@bruce2keys270
@bruce2keys270 Жыл бұрын
This was super interesting and cool !!!! Thanks
@gregboyden564
@gregboyden564 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve for another historic tid bit . I have never heard of this dam, and would love to go and visit it someday.
@RoadDogSteve
@RoadDogSteve Жыл бұрын
Well done....... thanks
@leroyreichel8763
@leroyreichel8763 Жыл бұрын
Very cool! Really Dig your channel man!
@hamlaser
@hamlaser Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the mini adventure!
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Жыл бұрын
It gets pretty big in Mission Valley! But some of that may be ocean water for all I know.
@4-SeasonNature
@4-SeasonNature 2 ай бұрын
Nice historical information.
@denisehazlett508
@denisehazlett508 Жыл бұрын
I've camped at the campground and it's a great way to enjoy the park and explore the area. Have you ever thought of doing a video about the Diamond Valley Lake up near Hemet? A lot fossilized bones of extinct animals were found there.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Жыл бұрын
I'll have to take a look at it. I have never been there but it sounds very interesting.
@denisehazlett508
@denisehazlett508 Жыл бұрын
The name of the with the fossils is Western Science Center, and it's located on Searle Parkway. I hope I've got it right.
@lowbaritonewwj
@lowbaritonewwj Жыл бұрын
I have lived in Elsinore over 10 years now. When my roommate's sons were younger, I took them there frequently
@brentnearhood8874
@brentnearhood8874 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Steve
@TheTbyrd85
@TheTbyrd85 Жыл бұрын
This was a good episode
@daveh4283
@daveh4283 Жыл бұрын
Great video Steve
@michaelsimonds2632
@michaelsimonds2632 Жыл бұрын
Another Dam Good video from my favorite history documenter! Thanks again, Mr. Adventures.
@dezertraider
@dezertraider Жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT STEVE..VERY COOL..SAFE TRAVELS..
@mercedithcompala8148
@mercedithcompala8148 9 ай бұрын
This was great ❤
@PinInTheAtlas
@PinInTheAtlas Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t it be great to turn the clocks back and see how the area looked when only the Natives were there! Such beautiful scenery, Steve.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I imagine there had to be a village nearby, at least seasonally.
@bobcoats2708
@bobcoats2708 Жыл бұрын
You don’t have to hike too far in Mission Trails to forget you’re in the middle of San Diego and imagine what it was like 200 years ago. I do so often
@secretdaisy6484
@secretdaisy6484 Жыл бұрын
That’s just a lovely place. I would love to spend the day fishing there. I’m a catch & release 🐟 fisher except for mountain trout. I never heard of the San Diego river. I liked all of it including the Indian structures. It’s hard to believe that wonderful park appears to be in the middle of nowhere and it’s 15 minutes from big box stores and all the rest. Thanks for sharing and providing the history. 👍☮️🌞❤️
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Жыл бұрын
I see people fishing all the time, but I'm not sure what kind of fish are there.
@skrimper
@skrimper Жыл бұрын
​@@SidetrackAdventures same as any other river
@jeffmyers7062
@jeffmyers7062 Жыл бұрын
Good one Steve !
@noahingram8052
@noahingram8052 Жыл бұрын
Great job
@TheStryder400
@TheStryder400 Жыл бұрын
Awesome videos - great to have travel videos of USA, now i have to add a USA trip to bucket list
@IBRAKEFORBEDROCK
@IBRAKEFORBEDROCK Жыл бұрын
Growing up in Santee we used to call it Padre Dam I believe. 34 years ago I got busted bass fishing just up stream from there 🤣
@christianjaussi2125
@christianjaussi2125 Жыл бұрын
The navy takes me out from texas to San Diego about four times a year. I love Mission Valley Park. The trail past the dam and up Fortuna is always a must when I’m there. I’ll be there again in June and I’d be really cool to take a hike with a local expert if you’re free.
@motomaxsandiego
@motomaxsandiego Жыл бұрын
Mission Trails Park is the largest city park in the nation.
@samandrade9854
@samandrade9854 Жыл бұрын
I’m new subscriber I love you show ; been learning so much about the USA south west, Thanks
@Dbusdriver71
@Dbusdriver71 Жыл бұрын
You have some really interesting videos Sidetrack Adventures. You travel to some really interesting places and must have great stories to tell. Great video. You can eat fish from there just make sure you cook it very thoroughly!
@ericthomsen9644
@ericthomsen9644 Жыл бұрын
Great presentation! It's a part of history often overlooked by Americans.
@michaelsimonds2632
@michaelsimonds2632 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I really appreciate it!
@HuangXingQing
@HuangXingQing 11 ай бұрын
The missionaries had the same problem (soldiers abusing their converts) at the San Saba Mission & Presidio which is why the Comanches led several tribes in killing the Spanish trespassers and burning the buildings. While reading all the Spanish communique between Mexico city, San Antonio, San Saba and several other missions I was able to get a first hand account of the attitudes of Comanches toward the missionaries there. Thanks for your posts and most of all thanks for being honest about the heinous crimes committed against the natives by those representing Christendom. If you ever get to Texas there's a treasure trove of sites you could feature on your channel including the best representation, Presidio La Bahio of one in this hemisphere. Try to visit during the annual reenactment!
@stevej7139
@stevej7139 Жыл бұрын
I used to like hiking in that area, my friends and I used to also go 4wheeling in the hills to the north of the dam. Did you know there is a vertical mine shaft on top of one of the peaks near the dam towards the west, back in the late 70s we used to go up there with our trucks. Looking down the shaft it's not very far down there is an old car stuck in it, hard to say what they were mining for but the hole only went about 50 feet deep as far as we could tell without opening a hole big enough to squeeze past the car.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Жыл бұрын
I didn't know about the mine. There are some weird foundations here and there throughout the park and I always wonder what they were but never remember to ask if I stop by the visitor center.
@timarnold7239
@timarnold7239 2 ай бұрын
Not too far from there is a mine called "Crystal Cave." it was rich vein of quartzite crystal that were mined and used in the olden days for radio crystals. Transistors replaced crystals in the early 1960s and the demand for quartzite crystal died. All mining was abandoned. Could be that was another vein of quartzite crystal that was abandoned.
@rangertommy
@rangertommy Жыл бұрын
Love your videos! I climbed in Mission Gorge for years, before leaving San Diego, and while I was familiar with the dam, hadn't paid that much attention to it. I also lived in Poway for years, and have really enjoyed your videos of the surrounding areas there. Thank you!
@jroffler
@jroffler 6 ай бұрын
This place used to be the gunnery field of Camp Kearny during ww2. If you're willing to hop the "habitat rehabilitation" barriers, you'll eventually come across a few signs that give the real reason they don't want folks hiking there - "unexploded ordinance". I used to find all sorts of stuff out there before the barriers went up.
@jeffarcher400
@jeffarcher400 3 ай бұрын
There's serious rock climbing on the south side of the road. Oak creek falls is nice when it rains.
@jstclaire3
@jstclaire3 Ай бұрын
In the 1850's paddle wheel steam ships used to come up the river all the way to San Diego State University. I chubasco (hurricane in English) blew up the coast later that century. It caused massive flooding, Encinitas became an island, and re-routed the river to empty into San Diego Harbor.
@SoberDaze1
@SoberDaze1 Жыл бұрын
Great video😎
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@EdwardGregoryNYC
@EdwardGregoryNYC Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I was previously unfamiliar with the Kumeyaay, and I'll certainly be looking up the other video you made on the topic. The burning of the San Diego Mission is an interesting topic too. I'm reminded of the old Elton John song, Burn Down the Mission, which has a similar theme.
@mlss1229
@mlss1229 Жыл бұрын
Hello let me just say I love your travel vlogs they’re educational and therapeutic. They’re quite fantastic...Also, don’t know if you have already visited and shared old town, San Diego vlog. It’s where my deceased husband’s ancestors and ironically my sister’s deceased husband’s family dwelt. Casa de Silvas and Machado. It sould be interesting to get a brief historical perspective on these families and the town during Spanish occupation. 👍
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Жыл бұрын
I did a video on the cemetery in old town, but that's it so far. I want to do something more in depth down there but its just finding the time to do it properly. There is so much there.
@georgemarinez7650
@georgemarinez7650 7 ай бұрын
Que Pasa we love ur vids Aqui en Tejas
@susanherman3707
@susanherman3707 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for all your videos. This probably won't buy a tank of gas, but maybe lunch!
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures 10 ай бұрын
Thank you. I really appreciate this.
@kylemoss2765
@kylemoss2765 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your videos and info on places i never knew existed in San Diego...❤ Maybe you could mention how walkable these sites are... I'm not getting any younger!😢
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Жыл бұрын
There is a small parking lot next to the dam and a lot of street parking if you are there on a non-weekend. Its very easy to get to. The trail down to the grinding rocks is maybe 1/4 - 1/2 mile from the visitor center and is a little steep but only about 300 feet long.
@potters6192
@potters6192 Жыл бұрын
My hometown 🤙🏻too bad you didn’t mention it Santee is the home of mission trails
@rolpal619
@rolpal619 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that those hills are millions years old.
@gobbleguk
@gobbleguk Жыл бұрын
Kwaay paay nearby is quite the hike
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Жыл бұрын
That is a steep hike! Way less crowded than Cowles but I think its a bit harder.
@VintageVermilion
@VintageVermilion Жыл бұрын
The dam is one of the prettiest parts of Mission Trails Park. You feel as if you're a world away, yet it's right on the border between Santee and San Diego.
@jerroldkazynski5480
@jerroldkazynski5480 Жыл бұрын
The first Mission in Baja CA was built in 1697. Missions were commonly built as "exploration" crept north, although not always consecutively with distance. The Spanish thought CA was an island for quite a while. Junipero Sera was first Padre to cross desert from Arizona into CA crossing near today's Needles. Consider: how many Indian Reservations are there in Mexico, or any other Spanish and Portuguese colony countries?
@robertfansler7800
@robertfansler7800 Жыл бұрын
In the case of Argentina, the Spanish killed them all off! The Spanish did not bring civilization to the lands they conquered.
@jerroldkazynski5480
@jerroldkazynski5480 Жыл бұрын
Reference books include "The History of Alta California" by Antonio Osio, translated by Rose Beebe and Rob't Senkewicz, and "Lands of Promise and Despair. Chronicled of Early California, 1535-1846" by Beebe and Senkewicz as above.
@Daniel-fd3wp
@Daniel-fd3wp Жыл бұрын
You’re right that is a really polluted river. Fish catch and release. 👍
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