Thanks so much!!

I concur!

Golf handicap? lol

I totally get that there may be division differences at the Swatch group, but with so many brands under their roof I don't understand why they didn't take advantage of the partnership to give some of the 'sidekicks" (sorry... Moneypenny and Felix both wear Omega) different products to highlight? Having everyone wear only Omega's is...weird. It's like everyone at work wearing a Rolex.

@@pczTV Good point. Do you think we will ever see Bond wear a Speedmaster? I always thought that a chronograph would be a good tool watch for a MI6 agent, but I don't think Omega wants to cross that line.

I do love that the origin of the Seamaster being the Bond watch was a decision by the costume designer completely without monetary compensation from Omega. Yes, they locked that down with the financial partnership afterwards but the origin was all Lindy Hemming feeling that Rolex had become too posh and had negative connotations, while Omega had a working man’s vibe still, and her dad had served in the royal navy and been issued a Seamaster during his service.

Rolex will always be what James Bond wears. That's the way Ian Fleming intended. Anything that came after really doesn't count. Even though I know alot of Omega dudes can't stand that but facts are facts 💯

Thanks so much, Robert!!

Exactly 👍

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That was after Lindy Hemming had already picked Omega. It was an organic decision before any money was involved.

@@menswearmusings 🤭So, product placement in a billion dollar movie franchise is now organic. 🤣 Believe whatever you want buddy.

@@morganthau4448 if you think she’s a liar so be it but she has explicitly said there was no money involved whatsoever when she made that decision. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Obviously afterwards there became a huge amount of money involved to keep it that way.

Thanks a ton!

Also Rolex was Sean Connery's choice

@@user-rz8fx3dp4hRolex is Daniel Craig’s watch in real life.🥂

Maybe Luke never read Fleming’s books 😮

@@morganthau4448 I've read them.

While true, the Rolex of Fleming's era is really the Omega of today's Bond, an excellent high quality tool watch. I doubt Fleming, if alive today, would have chosen Rolex. Always a fun argument either way.

Yes you're right about the GMT

Rolex also supplied watches to Allied soldiers held in German POW camps during the war. They allowed them to pay for it when the war was over. Btw, Watches of Espionage website has tons of excellent articles about watches and real life espionage.

Connery did wear an unidentified dress watch (May even be an Omega) but there is no evidence it was a Gruen and that is a most unlikely candidate.

Correct!!

Well said! Couldn't agree more. Thanks for watching!

Yes that's correct

Yes a friend of mine has it. @omegabondwatches

Thanks so much!

Thanks David!!!

Sorry I misspoke.

@@Mostirrelevant books sure, movies...not quite

The quintessential James Bond watch is a Rolex. That's the way Ian Fleming intended and that's the way it is. It's just seems alot of Omega dudes just can't stand this anything after the books don't count

Oh no! Thank you!

@@BondsApartment All good!

Excellent points. PPK was the Glock in its day. But it’s a sub par weapon for self defense. No police or government agencies ever really used it. Fleming admittedly was not a weapons expert. But he loved his Rolex Explorer 1016.

Don't fool yourself. Rolex pays millions of dollars to market their products. I can't watch a sporting event without seeing Rolex "ambassadors" hoisting a trophy of some type with a Rolex on their wrist. Omega is every bit the equal of Rolex in quality. I know as I've owned several of both. But I will admit that Rolex has won the marketing and image game.

@@williamcoolidge9884 let’s stay on topic. We’re talking about Omega and Bond. Former CEO of Omega JC Biver on how he got EON to put Omega watches in their 007 films, “They wanted $50K. I gave them $2 million.” Google it. Thats classic product placement. Rolex advertises. That is much different than product placement in films. 🥂

@@williamcoolidge9884 Oh Please! Let me google this and..... holy cow.... you are totally correct. I'm having a hard time finding the companies current advertising budgets, the closest I could come was 2014 (ten years ago) where Rolex was the largest advertiser in the industry in the U.S. since 2000. $56 million at the time vs $35M for Omega. Note this is not global numbers, I can't find those. - Rolex seems to focus on premium sports (e.g. Racing, Tennis Grand Slams, Yachting) , and key influencers. - Omega has shifted their focus somewhat with the intro of the Swatch/Omega (still part of the overall swatch group, of course), looking to target a younger demo? Frankly, anything more expensive than a G-shock is really just someone buying into image. I admit to this... same reason I buy custom shop guitars from Fender and Gibson when the standard versions are just as good. And (sorry for the long reply) now I'm totally curious about the whole marketing angle. Did Rolex demur and Omega sweep in? If so, good for the Omega marketing team. Or did they want a different image to separate out Pierce? Hmmm. Interesting.

Hahahahaha

The Rolex Explorer is the only real Bond watch. Fact check that.

@@danielpowers2413the two references to Bonds watch in the novels fits the description of the Rolex Explorer 1016. The same Watch Fleming wore. There’s been tons written about this by horological folks. Cheers

@@matthewhelm3035 exactly. I’ve had the pleasure of handling a 1016 and it’s such a cool watch. I can see why Fleming chose that.

@@danielpowers2413 My dear friend: 1) Ian Fleming wrote just that Bond is wearing a Rolex. He did not identify what kind of Rolex. People are assuming he meant the Explorer just because Fleming had a ref. 1016 Explorer. 2) The Submariner was the first dive watch in the world that superceeded 100 meters of depth (1953). The Seamaster diver was released 4 yesrs later (1957) 3) The Submariner was the official watch provided from the british Ministry of efence to Naval Officers and members of the SBS/SAS. First the ref. 6538 was provided from 1956 to 1959. Then the ref. 5512/13 was provided from 1960 to 1967. Fnally the ref. 5513 was provided from 1972 to 1978! 4) The Seamaster was tested also in the years 1968-1971 but failed because of problems of the naiad system in shallow waters. So they returned to the trusty Submariner. 4) As you see, as a Naval Officer and ex SBS/SAS, 007 historically could not wear anytrhing else than a Submariner. So,¨accorning to the author, the histoty of military watches an the tradition of classic Bond the ONLY REAL Bond watch is the Submariner. My best regards

Then Omega CEO JC Biver explained his deal with ION. “They wanted $50,000, I gave them $2M. “. That’s how Omega became 007s watch. 🥂