We left the NO during the pachamama scandal. I just couldn't deal with such blasphemy anymore. My eyes were opened and I felt incredibly robbed. I had attended and only known very modern NO my entire life, 15+ years of Catholic school and 2 degrees from Catholic universities, my mom taught CCD for 40 years and we grew up right across the street from our parish, and here I was having no idea what this beautiful form of Mass was at all. Everything was brand new and foreign to me. Suddenly all my sacraments and my children's sacraments felt so empty. We've been very happy at our FSSP parish, the church family has immersed us, the traditions and beauty have now become our home. And the day after Ash Wednesday they locked down our church until May. We missed all of Lent and Holy week. My heart was broken the entire time. What a crime that anyone should interfere in anyone's free exercise of worship and religious liberty!

Absolutely fascinating. I was raised in the Church from 1954 until about 1969 or so, when all the incomprehensible changes were taking place. I have barely any memory of the Masses from that era, and when I returned in 2019 had no real sense of the Mass, only that some things felt quite off. I had no idea of all the changes that had ensued after the NO was instituted, and no idea that the TLM was brought back. Our pastor uses some of those older rubrics, such as bowing to the altar at the Oremus, and the Confiteor just prior to Holy Communion. This will be my first Easter in this traditional parish and I'm looking forward to it very much.

“…it burns our time like incense…” Simply beautiful

Love your talks and your books! You are a Knight for Tradition!

God bless you for carrying on in this time of utter darkness.

I went boarding school with the Benedictines in 1942. I only appreciated my good fortune later. What we have now is not to be compared. The old liturgy can come back at once for me

I was cradle and baptized TLM but grew up Novus Ordo among Dominicans and was matriculated by them too. It wasn’t until I saw Leonard Bernstein’s “Mass” that I soon realized just how Vatican II have become more about appearances and bogus flourishes… Pretty soon I was finding it hollow and it’s becoming no different than Bernstein’s musical. -- It was depressing me. Then one fine Christmas Day morning, after having been away for decades, I walked back into a TLM church and found myself home again. And there I remained. Hehe!

Pope Pius XII is such a fascinating figure, simultaneously inspiring and dumbfounding. I did hear Taylor Marshall say that it seemed like his decision to allow liturgical changes occurred after his severe stomach ailments had set in. Maybe he falsely trusted Bugnini. But now here it’s interesting to learn that he started that commission in the 40s at a time he was in good health. Pius XII also was granted the vision of the Miracle of the Sun privately in the Vatican Gardens. What does this all mean?

Re the tones used in the chanting of the Gospel: this is my parish, that God generously led me to. Canon O'Connor has a beautiful voice, but has the rare & highly prized quality of melancholy sound. I was astounded. When he sang the higher tone, there was an intense anguish to it that pierced my soul. This contrasted with Canon Avis's cello like baritone, chanting as Christ. I fell on my knees and wept, fully entered into that terrible day at the foot of the Cross. It's worth traveling to Pittsburgh to experience Holy Week at Most Precious Blood. It is beauty worthy of God.

it's time for Catholics to wake up and be vocal about insisting that the old rite be restored

Peter is the modern Michael Davies. He and Taylor Marshall are true heroes for taking up this cause.

Rich and beautiful. The Holy Ghost is working through you, Peter. Thank you. +

Praying for the spread and preserve of traditional Latin mass 🙏❤

I was Baptised in 1960 in St. Rita's RC Church and I had no idea how significant that was. I was just cutting my teeth of awareness in the Latin Mass when it was taken away. I saw my family and the entire extended family fall away at the great pleasure of all protestants, which looking back I could see but wasn't aware as all of the distractions of the anti war chaos and complete lunacy in soceity in general. After coming back through a conversion experience in '95, I fell away again after 5-6 years. I've been back for 4.5 years. During this time God was laying a good foundation and led me to another major conversion. Won't go through every detail, but the fruit of it all had me spendingv12-14 hours a day, feeding and spiritually nourishing the homeless and just before the lockdown, had me give out 150 miraculous medals right up to the day of lockdown. I knew none of this was a coincidence. I was then overwhelmed by the Holy Spirit and He infused the knowledge that ALL of our problems in the Church boils down to ONE thing and ONE thing that all of the errors that have occurred flow...That the Dogma of the Faith has been cancelled. He gave me to know that Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus is Bound in Heaven for all Eternity AND IS STRICTLY Enforced by Jesus WITHOUT exception! God doesn't change or make deals with the devil but the Church HAS. This is WHY it devolves so deeply....AND...it will NOT change unless this highly exalted Dogma in Heaven is recovered. If not, whoever doesn't hold it firmly are NOT SAVED, nor can they be. Dogmas are strictly enforced! Marian and Eucharistic Dogmas are all on the same level. Hardly anyone is saved! That's why Mother cries blasphemies against Her IS A SIN AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT, HER DIVINE SPOUSE. Take Jesus' advise in Matthew 10:28. "Fear no man who can only kill the body. Rather, Fear Him who can destroy both soul and body in gehenna." Fear of the Lord is MANDATORY. The sinless Virgin said it too! SHE FEARED GOD and had NO SIN! Luke 1:49-50. God announces His Prerequisite for Mercy and ultimately salvation. THE FEAR OF THE LORD. Pious Reverence causes Humility. Look around you. Who qualifies? Frighteningly True. Lord help us. Amen. +

Thank you. This is so enlightening. I had no idea that the changes were so recent! Going back now to re-read "The Stripping of the Altars" (Eamon Duffy) and Father Adrian Fortescue's book on the liturgy.

Having "jumped ship" from the Novus Ordo in 1990, this wolf was a 1962 Catholic for 10 years or so in the SSPX. But the sacristan in Kansas City, Dick Slattery, always left for Holy Week, and I wondered why. After the turn of the century and many discussions with this man, it began to dawn on me that the pontificate of Pius XII was not the epitome of Christendom, to say the least. History, I rest assured, will see this pontificate not only as the beginning of the prevailing liturgical anarchy, but also as a disaster for exegesis and real history. Pius XII's musing over the "Big Bang" and the possibility of "biological evolution" have done untold damage to this day. As for the Liturgical Anarchy, Eugenio Pacelli was surrounded by it when he was Apostolic Delegate to Bavaria in the 1920's. In nearby monasteries guitars were being strummed and priests celebrating facing the people and uttering the vernacular. Mediator Dei was not so prophetic after all, as Pius XII knew exactly what direction things were headed. Meanwhile, he tried to be the pope of compromise, allowing the liberal faction to fester while tossing bones of reassurance to the disturbed. Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us. You are our only hope!!

Deo Gratias Dr. Kwasniewski

PRACTICAL QUESTION: This is so good to know! Even our traditional Mass was altered in the 50s and 60s. When I read the 1945 Missal, it is different from what we do today as a congregation. For many of the responses that the people say now it says, "The server responds." Should we be more silent as a congregation like it was in the past, including the singing? I know my pitiful voice adds nothing to our angelic all male schola.

Thanks for sharing this! I love to see what you are doing!

We must return to the Missale Romanum Edition Typica of 1920.

Thank God I found this blessed channel 💕

Thank you for another excellent video! As you point out, one of the greatest liturgical injuries came during Pius XII’s reign. One third of the Breviary was removed. Most Bible readings were cut in half or more. When the Council fathers asked at Vatican II for more Bible readings, this is what they were asking to be restored.

Thank you Dr. Kwasniewski. A great video. It would have interesting to hear about the lost vigil of All Saints on Oct 31. Looks like I have some research to do

The One, True, Holy, Roman, Catholic and Apostolic Church!

Thank you so much!

This touches my heart! It reminded me of my life before I became Catholic! It scares me to think what else might be done to the Mass!

33:12 That’s a fantastic point

Why can we not ban hand communion and standing. Much of the rest will follow

Restoration leads to Recovery.

Wow this brother is a great orator.

Deo gratias❣️🙏

💜🦋love your lectures~

Good.

Deo gratias!

Amen amen . Viva Cristo Rey

Get Dr K’s new book ‘Bound by Truth’ Authority, Obedience, Tradition, and the common Good. The Bishop John Iffert of Covington Ky should be sent this book by the community he just cancelled as he clings to modernity without realizing the ongoing statistical demolition articulated by Kenneth Jones. We continue to pray for him.

By Decee in one of its sessions the binding Coucncil of Trent forbade any changes to the Liturgy declaring, "Should anyone add or remove from this Missal, let him be Anathema!" Then St. Pius V gave us "Quo Primum". What part of this did the Church not understand? Now we are enduring the wrath of God and that of Sts. Peter and Paul. The Council of Trent remains, in full force.

Ave Maria

I’ve been learning so much as of late... how much have we lost? Can we get it back? I went to a high school named after Roncalli. I was just reflecting on the fittingness given how many people from my high school have since left the faith

I think the monks of norcia use the pre-55 (they had a triple candle, veneration of the cross etc) but correct me if I’m wrong. They also speak English

52:20 I would love to know which monasteries these are!

One True Faith

i just realise that Novus ordo is not Catholic since i came to the Latin Mass....

Given the changes made in the early 1900s such as Pius X’s changes to the rite of consecration of a church, couldn’t we equally argue that anyone can legitimately return to pre-Pius X books as well? This particularly has always struck me as the true beginning of the liturgical revolt especially due to his claim that all who refused to switch to the new breviary did not fulfill their canonical obligation which seems to directly contradict the “sacred and great” principle.

Peter, if Pius XII thaught he was restoring rituals to the liturgies of Holy Week (as opposed to inventing new ones), can you speculate on his motivations? Why did he feel it would be better to restore older rites than to maintain the rites as they were established since the Council of Trent (if I have that right?)? The Byzantine Rite has no communion at all on Good Friday, but I'm not sure if the Eucharist must be consumed even from the tabernacle on Holy Thursday so that, as you say in this lecture, Christ is completely gone from the church. I would have to look that up. Fascinating talk.

Talk about arbitrary papal rule (Traditionis custodes)...

I will purchase the book, but I am hoping you also treated the Ember days of Advent. That was a Sacred Tradition, except the Last Saturday of Advent.

We lost communion on the tongue+ latin catholic mass+catechism and many other things I fail to remember.

The recitation of the Confiteor before the Communion of the Faithful was NOT forbidden by the 1960 rubrics. It was merely deemed unnecessary if it had been recited earlier. Priests who retain it violate NO rubric or law. the "Benedicamus Domino" was done away with because nobody could think of a reason why it was there in the first place. The permission to use the pre-55 Holy Week was not complete, but required the 2008 Prayer for the [Descendants of Jacob] on Good Friday.

Question: certain Pslams were removed because they were considered harmful. How can it be in the Bible and still be considered harmful? This is frustrating.

Marlowe is the original playwright of Dr Faustus.

Where can I find this Holy Latin Mass of this original Mass

1948: Atomic Age Alterations!

My impression is that the extreme length of these ceremonies led to sparse attendance and the substitution of paraliturgical devotions like Stations of the Cross. I have long wondered how - especially before hand missals were common - average, perhaps largely uneducated congregations dealt with interminable ceremonies entirely in Latin.

"Major tampering of the liturgy was already happening before Vatican II" - well, everybody who bothers to study this already knows that the Liturgy has developed over twenty centuries. I mean, look at how Pius V tampered with the Liturgy when he brought out the 1570 Missale Romanum.

You keep saying these prayers in English so we can see how beautiful they are. Be consistent and say them in Latin

Pope Pius XII made a YUGE mistake when he listened to bad advice and "Restored" Holy Week. The only thing that was "restored" was the movement of the Easter Vigil Mass to midnight, which, in fact, made it "The First Mass of Easter." Everything else was actually an innovation, like the touchy-feely and VERY participative "Renewal of Baptism Promises." I would really desire to attend a "Pre '55" Holy Week if I could find one that maintains the word "perfidis" and isn't being done by SeVacs.

No matter people are so lukewarm these days...

Pax

I went to the 62 holy week at least once, maybe twice. The first time I really enjoyed it because I had only experienced the Novus Ordo. The second time, after being more familiar with it, I was struck by the weird Novus Ordo elements in it, like the jarring renewal of baptismal promises, which is just this strange break in the Easter Vigil where the priest turns around and gives a long English exhortation and then we recite English things. To me it was like if in a theater production all the actors broke character and starting chatting with the audience. And then the commerical break is over and they go back into character and turn around and speak Latin again. Incredibly strange! Then the common recitation of the Pater at Good Friday. Also very weird. The blessing of the Palms on Palm Sunday is also very Novus-ish. Facing the people on a table in the middle. It's like a science project or something. So when I was bothered by that renewal of baptismal promises I decided I would never go to a 62 Holy Week again. The Novus Ordo is much more consistent. The Novus Ordo holy week makes sense in the context of the Novus Ordo. The 1962 Holy week doesn't make sense in the context of the TLM. The last 3 years I have gone to the pre-55 holy week and it's 1000 times better. and I would still rather attend a Novus Ordo holy week compared to the 62, it's that bad.

One question I have is how is John XXIII and Paul VI are saints, if they allowed V2 confusion to happened?

Si potrebbe averne per favore un testo in italiano o quantomeno in francese?

It was the night of Jewish Passover and Jesus and the Apostles went to the Temple for Passover every year Jews celebrated Passover of the Messiah in advance. The Jewish Passover prayers are about His Death. The Lamb was offered and had to be perfect. Those Passover Prayers are Perpetual and can't be changed they were passed over to us The Jews had true worship Jesus is God and attended true worship. The Temple fell because it was the end of the Symbolic Lamb The Messiah has come and He is the Lamb to be sacrificed.

We can thank Satan and the NOVIS ORDO for the gradual but gradual destruction of the Catholic Church and the falling away of Catholics, many forever. EVERYONE OF MY CATHOLIC CHILDREN HAVE LEFT THE CHURCH. I now have an atheist, baptist, evangelical, and a lazy agnostic . Shame on the greedy and self promoting of our clergy. Dear nuns: get your habits back on so the world will respect you, know who you are, (Catholic), and love what you do

We should also restore the Roman Canon to its purity by rejecting John XXIII's forcing of St. Joseph into the Communicantes.

Former RC, currently Orthodox. Zero regrets. Service still around an hour and a half long, no innovations ☦️

The gates of hell will NOT prevail 🙏🇮🇱💒🛐⛪️

The liturgy prior to the council of Trent evolved over centuries from rites described in the Didache to the Tridentine form. This demonstrates the liturgy evolves and there is no reason to assume that Trent was the omega point liturgically speaking. The presenter simply asserts it is so as if were obvious. It is only to those who want to say it is but that does not make it so. I prefer the old rites and find the current liturgy- especially the music- problematic on so many levels. But that does not mean that anything prior to current liturgy was not in need of reform. The practice of low Mass turned Mass into a spectator sport with a congregation barely attending to it, praying the rosary, daydreaming etc. I recall hearing folks say that they preferred the very early mass because the priest would recite the mass so quickly it was over in les than 25 minutes. While my mother faithfully followed the liturgy in her Saint Joseph's Missal, most people did not. Attendance at High Mass was limited and unless it was a Holy Day of Obligation even during Holy Week the church was not packed. There was an innovation (oh, horror!) called the dialogue Mass, in which the congregation recited the parts normally said by the servers. This simple change made a lot of sense and would today. There were also accretions to the liturgy prior to Trent too numerous to detail that made no sense (e.g. Ite, missa est, then continuing the Mass). That simply needed reform, changing the liturgy as it had been changed so many times prior to Trent. The much more complicated issue of Mass as sacrifice vs meal and the tonal change to the text of the Mass seems to me a more legitimate debate opposed to the current debate on form which at times verges on liturgical fetishism.

Liturgical reforms were also happening before 1948. Pope St. Pius X also made changes to the Breviary and he was not the first pope to do so. Nor was Pope St. John XXIII the first Pope to change the Missale Romanum. Benedict XV published an editio typica in 1920 based on changes proposed by Pius X. Editio Typica containing changes to the mass were also published by Leo XIII and a few popes during the 18th and 17th Centuries. This is in addition to the point that both Pope St. Leo the Great and Pope St. Pius V also engaged in liturgical reform, instituting changes in the mass from that which existed before their pontificate. So, all this is to suggest that development and reform seems to be present in the history of the mass over the centuries. So, why do you have a problem with the reforms made by the popes leading up to and immediately after Vatican II?

I don't follow the Catholic Church anymore I became a Bible Christian recently 7th Day Adventist. We won't be joining Rome and its one world religion. We were taught as kids the Mass was Christ's and could never be changed.

It seems interesting to me that every time there is liturgical reform, it is met with strong resistance. The Tridentine Rite, "the mass of the ages" was resisted for 200 years by the French before it became "mainstream" in the country. The same arguments were made at the time "it's modern", "we are giving up timeless tradition" "we are losing in reverence" "this new Tridentine Rite is not the real mass, but a false mass that wants to supplant the real faith and tradition" etc etc... Furthermore, to believe that the TLM is always reverent, is a falsehood. There are proofs of abuses of the TLM in literature. This obsession of constantly going back in time to "retrieve" the "real mass" will never end until we get to what the first Christian's mass looked like, which is a bear bones minimum of what we have today. One must not confuse Tradition and tradition. That being said, I do love the TLM, and when well done, it is beautiful (just like all forms). I do not put one form of rite above another as all can be beautiful, and all can be abused.