The One Fatal Design Flaw of the 2011-2014 Ford 5.0L Coyote Engines!

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Ай бұрын

In this video we show you what the all too common sunken valve issue looks like on the gen 1 Ford 5.0L Coyote Engines. This issue affects all 2011-2013 5.0L Coyotes engines and some of the early build 2014 models as well.
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@fZionists78
@fZionists78 Ай бұрын
Anyone doubting this guy is either dumb, drunk, or hasn’t watched FordTechmakuloco long. There’s not an expert I would trust more when it comes to gas powered F-series engines. Fools are practically receiving unheard wisdom for free, yet have the audacity to voice their biased opinions instead of saying THANK YOU.
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco Ай бұрын
I couldn't have said it better myself.
@frank8534
@frank8534 Ай бұрын
@@FordTechMakuloco bro you have taught me more then anyone else about my truck. You've also saved me more money then any accountant. Thank you for what you do.
@desertstar223
@desertstar223 Ай бұрын
Just like you everyone has the right to voice their opinion. It might be a nonsensical opinion but, remember an opinion is not fact. It's a personal assessment of an issue. So please, leave other people be. If that's not too much to ask. Wisenose.
@chipsaunders154
@chipsaunders154 Ай бұрын
@@FordTechMakuloco Will substituting the 5w20 oil Ford recommends with 5w30 help an engine with over 100K ?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco Ай бұрын
no
@jaredc7326
@jaredc7326 Ай бұрын
That is/was my motor. Thanks again for the excellent work, glad I brought it to you guys, pleasure doing business with you. I was wondering if I would get a video out of it from you.
@farming4g
@farming4g Ай бұрын
What was your driving style/load types?
@pamcm1098
@pamcm1098 Ай бұрын
I wish Brian was local to me. My 4.6 has an oil leak somewhere at the rear of the engine that I don't trust my guy to touch.
@motormossvlogs1450
@motormossvlogs1450 Ай бұрын
@@farming4g id like to know also.
@josephmorrone2660
@josephmorrone2660 Ай бұрын
You couldn’t have taken it to a Better shop, but I think you already know that !
@josephmorrone2660
@josephmorrone2660 Ай бұрын
Great Video, Great presentation !
@Wreckerboy
@Wreckerboy Ай бұрын
Scary world we live in where installing an entire rebuilt engine makes economic sense compared to *just* rebuilding the heads.
@sirjames1983
@sirjames1983 Ай бұрын
it situational if you buy remanufactured heads and turn yours back in, its much much cheaper than paying a machine shop but either way labor is expensive
@Wreckerboy
@Wreckerboy Ай бұрын
@@sirjames1983 not questioning the economic reality of the situation, but on the whole it’s still somewhat insane that this is the way things are now. Plus, finding a machine shop these days is difficult. It took me a few days of searching and a forty mile drive just to get a flywheel resurfaced last year. That used to be a common, head down to your local shop, sort of thing.
@ChessIsJustAGame
@ChessIsJustAGame Ай бұрын
Anybody remember when your typical gas station could do so much mechanical repairs. All the exhaust pipes and fan belts hanging high up on a wall. Light bulbs, fuses, oil, batteries, etc. near the cash register.
@goodday126
@goodday126 Ай бұрын
The powers that be want the auto industry to be replaced with electric vehicles that you can't own off of warranty. Cyclical lifespans that turn car ownership into a subscription. They can turn off your car ownership with a click.
@Powerstroke98
@Powerstroke98 Ай бұрын
@@Wreckerboy Very true, the same as in our area here in Canada, as there use to be a machine shop in every community. They can be found, but it takes more effort and time (driving further afar in ridiculously high traffic) to get the job done, then return, and fight the same traffic back. It all takes patience, and more $$ these days, on top of the already expensive lives we lead.
@mike-tg8dw
@mike-tg8dw Ай бұрын
A mechanic offered me 10 grand for my 2002 f150 4.6 liter. He couldn't believe how well it drove. Almost nothing is tackled on this truck without first referencing this master mechanic. From AC work to changing fluids in the rear axel this is my go to source.His common sense tips are hard to beat. He has saved me thousands and thousand of dollars in labor. Well done sir.
@2vcrew782
@2vcrew782 Ай бұрын
I’m on my second new edge Mustang GT with the 4.6L 2V. Not a power monster but they have been such good engines to me. I’ve driven them both hours and hours non stop higher RPM range and they never skipped a beat. The only caution with a 4.6L that’s almost two decades old now is the timing chain guides get worn and the tensioners bust through them. If you take the oil cap off running and here the chain slapping it’s time to pull the cover before it takes the motor down.
@jr7441
@jr7441 Ай бұрын
Stating that this engine is perfect is like saying humans are perfect lol. Plus, you have the Ford guru spitting facts and showing evidence. Keep killing it brother.
@fastst1
@fastst1 Ай бұрын
Engineers likely had it perfect, finance snuck into the office after hours and mucked it all up
@user-qc3mg3pp2s
@user-qc3mg3pp2s Ай бұрын
This channel is an INCREDIBLE SOURCE of information.
@Hotdaddy536
@Hotdaddy536 Ай бұрын
The manufacturer hates Brian..but that's OK..he shows us how cheaply built their products are made..thank you Brian ..
@vitopannucci2001
@vitopannucci2001 Ай бұрын
I was quoted $5000 and a month for timing chains on a '13 ecoboost. His 4 part series (and the oil pump replacement trick!) got me through every detail of the job! Took 4 weeks of my free time and a bit over $1200 ("while I'm in there" extras) and now I've learned a bit, got more tools, and have piece of mind for a month's pay less. Man is a wealth of knowledge and a Saint!
@thomasbabcock5174
@thomasbabcock5174 Ай бұрын
As a old school retired master mechanic,guess they are called technicans now..the shop i worked at did mostly classic cars and trucks just because of the shortcuts, ALL manufacturers were taking,not just Ford. When they started putting quantity over quality, don't be fooled,it was over. Its not just other countries,but the US too. Both my sons work for Ford and they see lack of quality everyday,some of the things they say are sad,Its quantity over quality everyday!People pay alot of money for quantity built crap. I still see some of my old customers at local car shows that still haven't had many problems. Still have my 68 SS Chevelle with 396 muncie 4 speed,that i let my kids drive occasionally,but with me riding shotgun. Best Ford channel on you tube,Thanks Brian.❤ 😊
@mph5896
@mph5896 Ай бұрын
Newer stuff is actually quite stout compared to old stuff. 1 million 1980 Citations GM produced. Look at that quality put out 45 years ago 🤣
@thomasbabcock5174
@thomasbabcock5174 Ай бұрын
@mph5896 We built cars right back then..With basic maintenance,they would last for many years,and most people could fix their own vehicles. How many 80 citations are on the road today? Probably 3, I'm betting you can't change your own oil, Thank GOD you have a local wal-mart to do it for you.🤭🤣👌
@mph5896
@mph5896 Ай бұрын
@@thomasbabcock5174 Oh, the insult. 🙄Cars "back then" were built like crap. 100k and the engine was absolutely whooped. Today, I hardly have to go inside many engines for repair (its all external components). Shops are not swapping out engines left and right like the past.
@thomasbabcock5174
@thomasbabcock5174 Ай бұрын
@mph5896 We will have to agree to disagree,but I respect your comment. My experiences are different, though.Too much Chinese plastic,Chinese cheap metals, they are meant to last 5-6years,and the special tools you need to buy,just to use them a few times,no thank you. The manufacturers and engineers don't want people to repair their own vehicles,they want them to take them to a shop,where usually they aren't repaired right.Have a good day. 👍
@bradnimbus4836
@bradnimbus4836 Ай бұрын
@@mph5896 "Shops are not swapping out engines left and right like the past" That's when you show how full of it you are.
@robertdavis6708
@robertdavis6708 Ай бұрын
I wish I was 340 miles closer to Brian. He would do 100% of my heavy work. Great work ethics.
@lsteck4399
@lsteck4399 Ай бұрын
You'd probably be money ahead by towing it to him becsuse someone else might miss things that brian doesn't!
@davidr6045
@davidr6045 Ай бұрын
Exact same thing happened to my 2013 F150 5 L motor. 101 thousand miles and check engine came out with PO four misfire. Took it to two different shops and eventually replace the engine as the trucks in great shape otherwise. Just couldn’t stomach spending $75,000 on a new pick up. Thank you so much for this information. I searched the Internet extensively last year and just couldn’t find information like this. Long time subscriber and will always watch your videos.
@RareDivers
@RareDivers Ай бұрын
My 2013 F-150 developed the same compression loss symptoms last spring. Research led me to learn about this exact issue. Symptoms crop up around 100,00 miles. I was at 105,000 when the misfires finally tripped the check engine light. (Idle was extremely rough since I bought the vehicle 4 years prior). One shop wanted to engine swap for $14,000, which I thought was a rip off. Another shop said they could tear it apart, send off to machine the heads and re-assemble with proper valves for just less than half that. Elected to do that, and it turned out extremely well. Never was a recall or announcement made about this problem from Ford, as it affects all 2011-2013 truck Coyotes engine, but forum posts confirm this affects 2014 models too. Like someone else in the comments said, these are ticking time bombs sadly.
@mph5896
@mph5896 Ай бұрын
$14k for an engine. What in the world😆
@anthonygallegos3269
@anthonygallegos3269 Ай бұрын
@mph5896. It's not just for an engine. 14k is for the cost of engine plus parts and labor. In the automotive industry cheaper is almost always never the way to go. Thats how 800 dollar jobs turn into 8,000 dollar jobs further down the line.
@user-vp7lu7be2n
@user-vp7lu7be2n Ай бұрын
Ford may put the issue in a TSB for service techs,but don't look for any news release to the public! Add in the mileage when things crop up, and you see why Ford just ignores the issue! It's no longer a warranty repair at 100K unless you have an extended warranty! At this point, the dealer personnel try to blame it on your maintenance and cry not covered under warranty. Now they hope you go for a cash repair! Cha-Ching!
@vitopannucci2001
@vitopannucci2001 Ай бұрын
​@anthonygallegos3269 Bingo, and when you pay a friend $2000 to do it with a "low mileage" $5000 Craigslist engine... you'll be doing it again very soon
@AlphanumericCharacters
@AlphanumericCharacters Ай бұрын
People are so dramatic. All engines will have a “common” failure point. Being something that occurs at a higher percentage rate. Thanks to the internet you have a few guys post on KZfaq or a forum and act like the engine is a “ticking time bomb”. Not at all. This is a fantastic engine. This failure is rare. I saw it twice when I was a dealer tech and the fleet I work for now has a few hundred of these engine and we haven’t had this happen ever. We literally had never done a base engine repair on any Coyote engine until the phaser issue popped up on the newer trucks. Even still, though not minor, that is the only failures we have seen on any of them. By the way, I can search all that and run these reports through our fleet management software. As a side note. KZfaq claims the 10R transmissions are garbage. All we have had done is software updates. These are all work trucks too. Often pulling trailers and almost always carrying cargo.
@CassidysWorkshop
@CassidysWorkshop Ай бұрын
I wish my teachers in school had been as clear and informative as you, may have learned more. Thank you again for keeping us up to date.
@daseneca4812
@daseneca4812 Ай бұрын
Been following you for a long time, great stuff! Former Ford tech, moved into service management, dived for the hills just as fuel injection was coming on but have never been able to chase the gearhead outta me, lol! Work IT now, it's ironic that all of my new skills are transferable too. Had a '13 150, 5.0. cyl 6 started missing intermittently around 100,000, put up with it until 200,000, then it became a daily occurrence... low, rough idle, check wallet light on at every stop. Found cyl 6 had 90# compression, grrrr. Put a tuner on it to raise the idle speed, Torque to kill the check engine light often, and drove it another 100,000 miles. Down a little on power, but I spend most of my time on the highway anyway and it was still just doing it's job. the 5.0 has problems just like any other engine, but this one wasn't giving in. Just traded it for a '24 F150 XLT 5.0. Looking for another 300,000... Thanks for posting, you've saved me a ton of aggravation over the years, and I'm sure for many others too!
@alexcaddel117
@alexcaddel117 Ай бұрын
I can’t wait to see that video going over all four current generations of 5.0L. I currently own a gen 2 in my Mustang and a gen 4 in my F150 I just bought. The gen 2 I’ve had no issues that weren’t self induced after 96k miles, ie o2 sensor fail from adding headers.
@awgolasplowing
@awgolasplowing Ай бұрын
Great video, perfect explaintion of the issue! I had asked on the FB post you made about this because i had never heard of the issue, but it all makes perfect sense, thank you for bringing this to light!
@rlhh4
@rlhh4 Ай бұрын
I appreciate every video you make, especially the ones about common issues and tutorial style.
@dbengineering4209
@dbengineering4209 Ай бұрын
Thanks Brian thats good info. You have a really good camera to show these differences in the valves. Yes , we need more machine shops !
@shauno3697
@shauno3697 Ай бұрын
Great show & tell. Thanks for spending the time to show it off.
@941Earl
@941Earl Ай бұрын
That was a very cool video representation and explanation for those that don't do this work. You made it very easy to understand what is really happening in the combustion chamber. Well done.
@frankpattijr4718
@frankpattijr4718 Ай бұрын
Some people don't believe that there is issues like this that is why the come out of the woodwork you show clear and precise views of what was going on thank you for the information
@ghostwrench2292
@ghostwrench2292 Ай бұрын
I did not know about this issue. Thanks for the video! 👍
@ronaldbrosius7488
@ronaldbrosius7488 15 күн бұрын
Excellent job as usual, thanks for sharing with us
@jdl1276
@jdl1276 Ай бұрын
thats a great idea, a vid explaining each gen!!! Would love that!!
@Stress361
@Stress361 Ай бұрын
Great video man! Hoping thats not the issue with my 2012 137k. Keep making the content! You do a great job!
@louayhaouari6368
@louayhaouari6368 Ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for this video. I'm in the process of rebuilding a 2012 coyote and I've found some of the tuliped intake valves and I thought it was odd!!! This explains that!
@howardriggins4010
@howardriggins4010 Ай бұрын
Wow always learning something new, I appreciate these videos
@brianraglandsr.2349
@brianraglandsr.2349 Ай бұрын
Great vid. I have one in my shop now out of a 2013 #6 cylinder valves. I just started seeing this 2 years ago. Before that I would have been one of them guys saying the 5.0 was rock solid besides some leaks.
@motormossvlogs1450
@motormossvlogs1450 Ай бұрын
Still so many out there that dont have any issues. The parts supplier could have a mix Of good and bad made ones.
@Markomyt1
@Markomyt1 Ай бұрын
Excellent information. On my 2018 F150 with 104k, I just had my transmission replaced. Hard shifting and slow shifting. Also had cam phasers replaced at 60k and again at 95k... !!! I get lots of information from your videos including doing the cam phasers on my old 2006 with the 5.4. THANK YOU!
@bojo8141
@bojo8141 Ай бұрын
Once again your skills are amazing, thanks for the info I've never seen that before. Great job.
@jamesricketts6186
@jamesricketts6186 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Great videos and great advice. I have a 13 F150 with the 5.0. Absolutely love it. It does have a rough idle when cold though.
@Schlum99
@Schlum99 Ай бұрын
Please do the video you suggested on the issues found with the different Coyote generation engines, it would be great so can keep an eye out for these issues. Thanks
@StoneysWorkshop
@StoneysWorkshop Ай бұрын
crazy thankfully i’ve never had this issue. At 548,000 miles
@motormossvlogs1450
@motormossvlogs1450 Ай бұрын
Theres probably more 1st gen 5.0 out there with 300k* miles then there are out there with this issue. I personally think the company that makes the valves had some bad runs or somthing and did not know. Or it could be as stupid as a single shift not making them properly. Theres too many out there that dont have this problem to say its really even a “problem” might you say its luck of the draw. Knowing this id rather buy a 5.0 over the 160k mark. Then you know its good…
@cj1613
@cj1613 Ай бұрын
What year is your 5.0L and date of ur truck on the sticker please
@DonziGT230
@DonziGT230 Ай бұрын
548,000....guessing it's a 7.3 and not a Coyote.
@michaelbefumo-qg7ji
@michaelbefumo-qg7ji Ай бұрын
concave . What is shame and then how many miles to this is do they do this. So 3/4 valve seats were okay
@StoneysWorkshop
@StoneysWorkshop Ай бұрын
@@cj1613 2012 i dont have the door sticker because it was reskinned due to deer strike
@jonsvideos321
@jonsvideos321 Ай бұрын
Nice and detailed video. Thanks Brian!
@davidmckinney6577
@davidmckinney6577 Ай бұрын
Excellent video had that same problem with a 2012 it definitely happens you sure know your fords you have got to be the best in the business 👍 I've always thought that I always come to your channel when I have a problem
@MrTemplerage
@MrTemplerage Ай бұрын
Wow! Never knew. Glad you're still making videos too.
@Personalized_Workshop
@Personalized_Workshop Ай бұрын
Thank you. Your channel is one of my morning news channels on the way to work at used car lot. I’m looking at buying a 2020 Ranger Ecoboost. Going to look and see if you have any vids on that.
@josemontes9105
@josemontes9105 Ай бұрын
Looking forward to seeing the episode with every Gen of Coyote
@josephvantreeck2989
@josephvantreeck2989 Ай бұрын
Thank you Brian
@Boss302ATC
@Boss302ATC Ай бұрын
Holy crap. What a great video, so perfectly explained and shown.
@carlbruhn1772
@carlbruhn1772 Ай бұрын
Fantastic camera work!!
@timothyfechter5977
@timothyfechter5977 Ай бұрын
Great video as always Brain
@cjespers
@cjespers Ай бұрын
Bought a 2011 core motor. Scuffed #8 piston. .010 bore cleaned it up. Replaced the valves with Manley stainless. Glad I did. Just heard of this. Thanks for the video.
@adamsoto6466
@adamsoto6466 Ай бұрын
Damn bud. You just made my stomach drop. Hopefully this is not my issue. I'll be bringing it to you.
@killercan10
@killercan10 Ай бұрын
Machine shop thing is no joke. Few and far between for sure. We had 2 local ones near us (30 mile radius). One was in business for a long time, their lead guy ended up buying the business about 10 years ago from the original owner and now just closed this year and retired. The other shop is still open. He used to be one of the lead machinists for the other shop and went solo a couple years before the other place sold to their other employee. He's now a one or two man operation with the old wise guy from the place that closed helping him part time setting up racing engines.
@ice44567
@ice44567 Ай бұрын
Yeah, its becoming impossible to operate one anymore. Where's the business? Shops just quote used or reman engines now for anything because techs are overworked as it is. The labor $ isn't worth it, so that just leaves DIY project people or race car guys which not every area has enough of to feed a shop. And that's not even getting into the problem of all the knowledgeable people retiring and taking their secrets to the grave, lol. I've heard of so much garbage machine work if you can even find a place.
@andrewslagle1974
@andrewslagle1974 Ай бұрын
@@ice44567 The problem is you cant get help !No one wants to learn the trade !THERE IS PLENTY OF WORK !
@TheRetarp
@TheRetarp Ай бұрын
@@ice44567 yup the business is not really there. No more constant flow of blown up GM, Ford, and Chrylser engines. People wised up and moved on to buying Toyotas and Hondas which have a far lower rate of failure. Heck two the highest volume passenger vehicles in North America so far in 2024 are the Rav 4 (which is arguably the most reliable vehicle ever built) and Tesla Model Y (which since it has no engine will never need machine work!). Where does that leave someone with a machine shop? They better find a niche to specialize in or they will go out of business.
@canadianmarauder1923
@canadianmarauder1923 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the diagnosis Brian.
@chrischiampo7647
@chrischiampo7647 Ай бұрын
Nice Diagnosis Brian Thanks For The “Heads” Up 😊
@markgeiger3658
@markgeiger3658 Ай бұрын
Hey Brian was that a quality control issue on those sharp valves ... Great channel to watch !!!!
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco Ай бұрын
Yes it was
@patrickreid2767
@patrickreid2767 Ай бұрын
Great info!! Thank you!!
@jamescaron6465
@jamescaron6465 Ай бұрын
I have this motor. I haven't had this problem yet, knock wood but This is good to know and I know what to look for if I start having problems. Thanks for sharing
@robmclaughlin420
@robmclaughlin420 Ай бұрын
That's so crazy, i would have never thought they would do that
@PBVader
@PBVader Ай бұрын
The 2.3 2.5 Lima had a similar issue, but I believe the seats sunk. There is a seat insert fix.
@marksearcy9708
@marksearcy9708 Ай бұрын
Great info. Please do the generation comparison.
@williamwarning-kf2ym
@williamwarning-kf2ym Ай бұрын
I see you are reading comments. Thanks for the best channel on the tube. First class. I took your advice on Penzoil platinum 5 30 and been changing my oil every 5000 miles or so on my 2006 e250 work van with the 5.4. for the last 3 years or so. No ticking runs great 160.000 miles. Thank you.
@thatrealba
@thatrealba Ай бұрын
He definitely reads comments, even on FB. I left a comment recently over there which could have been taken from a snarky pov, but Brain just answered with a question. So i re-phrased and Brain addressed my concern about seemingly conflicting things he had said recently, and he made his stance 100% clear without being a jerk about it. It was a good interaction.
@kenmoats3654
@kenmoats3654 Ай бұрын
Interesting...and a very good explanation and example 👍
@ricardocorbie6803
@ricardocorbie6803 Ай бұрын
Fascinating!! I thank Sir for your knowledge and insight!!
@rmuzz3
@rmuzz3 Ай бұрын
Once again another awesome video.. Thank you 👊
@Rocksoup77
@Rocksoup77 Ай бұрын
Very good information and video!
@charlesloar3210
@charlesloar3210 Ай бұрын
Wow! great Video. I am an owner of a 2011 5.0 with 55,000 miles on it. Great info!
@mikechiodetti4482
@mikechiodetti4482 Ай бұрын
Good information to know. Thank you for this video.
@kampatterson1865
@kampatterson1865 Ай бұрын
You’re awesome, thanks for posting another great video.
@derekmartinie2180
@derekmartinie2180 Ай бұрын
Thanks brother I got a 06 4.6 L supercharged thank you for the info
@mikeluckhardt5400
@mikeluckhardt5400 Ай бұрын
Great video. Never a bad video.. keep them coming .
@k9under
@k9under Ай бұрын
Ford just bring back the old 300 inline 6
@motormossvlogs1450
@motormossvlogs1450 Ай бұрын
Twin turbo inline 6 from ford would be awesome
@DonziGT230
@DonziGT230 Ай бұрын
And the 7.3 diesel. But it'll never happen because neither can meet the emissions requirements. Even if they could pull that off, nobody would buy them because they're not competitive in any way against the other manufacturer's offerings. Very few buyers truly care about long term life, they want a pretty car/truck with lots of bells and whistles and a smooth quiet drivetrain. Throw a 300 or 7.3 in any modern vehicle and 99% of people would walk away.
@user-vp7lu7be2n
@user-vp7lu7be2n Ай бұрын
@@DonziGT230 It may make the emissions standard, but the CAFE standards would likely be an issue!
@DonziGT230
@DonziGT230 Ай бұрын
@@user-vp7lu7be2n Those old engines won't meet either standard, by a long shot.
@gr8tfoxes617
@gr8tfoxes617 Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this! Amazing the valves are failing like this.
@JoelTurner-sr1qf
@JoelTurner-sr1qf Ай бұрын
Excellent and informative video!
@Ham68229
@Ham68229 Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing, great video, cheers :)
@360titanable
@360titanable 26 күн бұрын
Thank you for the video ! I'm surprised as thin as the edges are there wasn't some kind of pre-ignition or hotspots on the valves
@Goldchannel12
@Goldchannel12 Ай бұрын
That too funny. I was just diagnosing a cylinder 4 misfires for someone on 2011 5.0 sure enough it low on compression.
@wagnerfamily4229
@wagnerfamily4229 Ай бұрын
Great Video, Thank You for that information.
@Dusty_Bottoms_
@Dusty_Bottoms_ 23 күн бұрын
I love the knowledge and presentation, I just wish you'd take in some GM LT engines and dissect their problems.
@mph5896
@mph5896 Ай бұрын
Gotta love all the commenters on social media swearing a particular engine was flawless. Like the 3800, people claim they are the best engine ever made. I replaced them like crazy 10 years ago. I once had 4 used 3800 engines I picked up from a salvage yard for engine swaps due to rod knocks.
@Discretesignals
@Discretesignals Ай бұрын
The series 3 was the best of the 3800s. None of that plastic intake rubbish
@ice44567
@ice44567 Ай бұрын
While the 5.0 is actually pretty good overall, the main issue is people just like to bandwagon whatever they purchased and justify it to anyone who will listen. A lot of times its old people or fudds who insist that "Turbo engines aren't reliable" just because its unfamiliar to them. They usually follow on Facebook just to see the ecoboost issues so they can talk smack on their friends that have one. That's why Brian gets so much hate when he talks about coyote issues, it shatters the reality that these people "chose correctly". Actual technicians know everything can and will break, and most powertrains have SOME flaw in this day and age that will affect some people. That's just life.
@BC08
@BC08 Ай бұрын
@@ice44567 The 5.0 is an all-time great. Like every other engine though it has some flaws. Compared to any 2007-up LS/LT with any form of cylinder deactivation the 5.0 has god-tier reliability.
@TheRetarp
@TheRetarp Ай бұрын
Survival bias. You'll see loads of comments usually about "my is the best vehicle ever made; today's vehicles are junk". No, they were all junk otherwise they would still be around in droves. Oldsmobile made hundreds of thousands of Cutlass cars in the 1970's. Best selling car in the world. When was the last time you've seen one? Chevy Cavalier they made over 225,000 in 1998 alone. Where are they today? In the junkyard crushed for scrap just like everything else.
@Discretesignals
@Discretesignals Ай бұрын
@@TheRetarp that is because cars have improved since the 70's and many were totalled or rusted away is why many of them were scrapped. Sometimes things get old and worn out and it's not practical to dump a bunch of money into them, especially if parts are no longer made. Better mpg, better safety, less emissions, more features, and more power from newer models pretty much left the older cars in dust. Sure there are survivors, but they are mostly weekend drivers or show cars. I agree, there are some crappy designs out there on all makes and models. Seen some problem cars make it to 300k miles and others have major issues right out of the gate.
@Chris-ut6eq
@Chris-ut6eq Ай бұрын
Have the gen4 coyote and very curious when we will start to see its issues. cylinder deactivation related or not. Thanks for taking the time to show the issue in detail.
@froglobster
@froglobster Ай бұрын
You’re the man Brian as usual thanks, My beast is 08 5.4 3V about 110k miles all good.
@Aaron_Voltz
@Aaron_Voltz Ай бұрын
This makes the 2nd valve issue I've heard of with Ford's valve supplier. The Broncos had bad valves also a few years ago.
@amrmad6446
@amrmad6446 Ай бұрын
Big shout out to Brian 🎉
@briansbrain426
@briansbrain426 Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@tedjones-ho2zk
@tedjones-ho2zk Ай бұрын
Would really enjoy seeing all of the issues with each version of the 5.0. Just courious if the plasma bore liner will make the list of issues.
@09corvettezr1
@09corvettezr1 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip
@danwoods315
@danwoods315 Ай бұрын
I recently fixed one of these in a 2013 with only 63K miles! Took off the heads and had a machine shop fix them and they could not believe the truck was so low mileage.
@BC08
@BC08 Ай бұрын
Bad heat treat on the valves, supplier level issue.
@chrisforker7487
@chrisforker7487 Ай бұрын
Love the videos!
@user-ut6ji8my2h
@user-ut6ji8my2h Ай бұрын
What great camera work. Thank You, Brian.
@billk8780
@billk8780 Ай бұрын
That is an expensive way to make pizza slicers! Great video as usual.
@jonarmedpiandsecurityoffic9051
@jonarmedpiandsecurityoffic9051 Ай бұрын
My 2013 coyote blew up after a head gasket job, havent torn it down yet, so we'll check for that when we tear it down
@glenharper3136
@glenharper3136 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video.
@hmrody
@hmrody Ай бұрын
Great video and thanks! Unfortunately, I have a 2013 F150 with a 5.0L Coyote engine 🥴. It is running well so far, but good to know if it starts to have a miss... Bummer...
@user-ut6ji8my2h
@user-ut6ji8my2h Ай бұрын
Brian is as good as it gets if you own an F150. My 2004 5.4 Runs like a swiss watch because of him. 170k miles. I did a complete timing job at 153k miles preemptively after watching his 4 part series. I went even further and replaced everything up front + the oil pump while I was in there, plus all the roller followers, lash adjusters, and cam solenoids. Why Ford is having issues with valves is beyond me, as this technology has been well known for a very long time. Maybe they decided to go import? I have never run into a " sunken valve " issue in my life and I am 77 years old.
@manitobaoutdoors7705
@manitobaoutdoors7705 Ай бұрын
This is EXACTLY what happened to me. Got the Reman engine in for 10K Cdn. I thought it was maybe a dealership making profit thing, but wow do I feel batter after seeing this. Thank you for the best FORD content literally ever made. Wow, video of the year for me, really hits hard
@mysock351C
@mysock351C Ай бұрын
If you left it like that it would eventually end up burning a valve. It’s possible to fix the heads yourself, but once a dealer and machinist get involved it gets expensive.
@prmining
@prmining Ай бұрын
Thanks for the information about the 5.0 coyote engines. How about information regarding 2011-2014 Duratec/Cyclone 3.7 V6 Engines?
@wayne-oo
@wayne-oo Ай бұрын
Well done !!
@Twobarpsi
@Twobarpsi Ай бұрын
Excellent video!
@Soto-Niko
@Soto-Niko Ай бұрын
Thank you FordTechMakuloco for sharing your source of knowledge and experience for these engines. In your opinion, which year F150 with the 5.0 V8 has the fewest problems overall? Thank you very much, appreciate your help
@excelerater
@excelerater Ай бұрын
I have two 2015s but its always surprising how MFGs lack in durability tests
@erickrosito3659
@erickrosito3659 Ай бұрын
great info
@GeneralPeterGriffin
@GeneralPeterGriffin Ай бұрын
On the other hand, I have 2012 F150 5.0 with 215000 miles. Nock wood, no issues except the famous tic wich happens randomly since about 60K miles, but Ford say its normal. There even is a TSB about it. But thanks for the video, alway learning.
@jamram9924
@jamram9924 Ай бұрын
This happens to vehicle manufacturers with their secondary parts suppliers. GM had the issue of collapsed lifters, although no recall was issued, a TSB was published.
@kenmoats3654
@kenmoats3654 Ай бұрын
I have a 2.7 T...2018 MKX with the first gen engine that doesnt have the PORT injection. What w 11:27 ould be 11:27 good practices i could do to help slow down the carbon build up of these engines. Thank you for your great videos.
@DDescalchuk57
@DDescalchuk57 Ай бұрын
We got one in the shop that has a bad intake valve on cylinder 8 customer opted to do a cylinder head. Waiting on the head from ford. Was a pretty easy diag, relative compression test showed it was down . Then leakage test showed intake valve leaking into the intake
@Bill_CBR
@Bill_CBR Ай бұрын
I wonder if you could get an inspection camera/scope down inside via the sparkplug hole with a mirror attachment and see the face of the valves enough to see if they had that issue?
@ShersGarage
@ShersGarage Ай бұрын
I have seen that issue few times. My uncle had that happen in his truck around 180k. What a shame! Those are great trucks! I drive a second gen coyote, aside from intake runner problem, there are not many known issues.
@pauljanssen7594
@pauljanssen7594 Ай бұрын
Yep there are two engines that have this intake valve problem I still remember the Ford 400 engine with bad valve springs.
@user-vp7lu7be2n
@user-vp7lu7be2n Ай бұрын
At least a set of valve springs on a 400 would be relatively simple to replace!
@mtnboy95338
@mtnboy95338 Ай бұрын
I would love to see the various differences in the Coyote generations. As well as the differences (if any) between Mustang and F150 Coyotes
@kylebeach2316
@kylebeach2316 Ай бұрын
The mustang coyote 5.0 is way different then the f150s 5.0. The mustang 5.0 has a slightly higher compression, different head design, the whole front plate of the engine is different as well. While the f150 is drastically held back with power by lower compression different heads and front plate. That's why the mustang 5.0 can rev higher then the f150. If you want too rev too 8500 rpms you might as well just pull the engine out of a wrecked mustang and swap it into the f150.
@mtnboy95338
@mtnboy95338 Ай бұрын
@@kylebeach2316 Thank You for the informative reply. I am just starting my education on this topic.
@Brian_195
@Brian_195 Ай бұрын
I’d love more content on the 3rd Gen Coyotes, whenever you get a chance.
@jowens1126
@jowens1126 14 күн бұрын
I had this exact same problem on my 2013 f150. Same cylinder valves were eroded, compression dropped significantly and was having misfires at idle, no issue under load. 145k miles. I just had the engine replaced for $8k. It was worth it to me because the truck was in perfect condition otherwise. im now 60k miles into the replacement engine with no issues..
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