So I've seen a few counter-arguments for why Anne's death wasn't as impactful as Stanley's memory wipe. You can choose to believe it has less impact, but here are my rebuttals to the 3 common arguments I've seen: 1) Anne's ruined her last moment before death by giving a joke that has no meaning as her last words. While it sounds out of place on the surface, it actually goes along with Anne's character. She's a fun person who wants to make people happy, and she doesn't want the last thing she sees is a sad Sprig. So by lightening the mood, she can seeing Sprig smiling. It's also why as she turned to leaves, she smiles. 2) The long term consequences of Anne's sacrifice were not acknowledged. While it's somewhat true for most of the characters. Anne definitely acknowledges it, hence her line about feeling existential dread later on. While we don't see it, it's implied in the 10 years time skip. Also, the audience definitely acknowledge the long term consequences which is enough to make the scene more emotionally impactful than Stan's sacrifice. 3) The existence of Domino III and it giving Anne a resurrection felt too convenient like Stan's memory wipe. This is the strongest counterpoint, and I actually kind of agree to it. But at least Domino III's existence serves another purpose to the story which is to explain the existence of the stones of the calamity box. Also, Domino III chose to resurrect Anne because of what Anne did and how she convinced it to send her back. So her resurrection felt less of a cop out because at least it's earned. Its not like Stan's memory wipe where his memories come back with no explanation besides "that's how it is according to Journal #3." Edit: there's a 4th argument people keep telling me which is that Stan's recovery from the memory wipe is already hinted at from McGucket who is able to recover parts of his memory back. I'm aware that recovering memory has always been possible. But I still find Stan's recover way too quick. Yes, there is a time skip in between the initial memory wipe and Dipper and Mabel's birthday. That still doesn't really change how it still feels too quick. In my opinion, it would have been better if Stan still had some memory issues by the time Dipper and Mabel leave Gravity Falls, but remembers enough to say goodbye to them before they leave. It would have heighten the emotional scene at the end of episode. So I get that not everyone will agree with me and I'm aware some people are bothered by Anne's death in the same way as I'm bothered by Stan's memory wipe. I acknowledge that Anne's death and resurrection has its flaws like the ambiguity of whether the clone Anne is the real Anne. But I just want to make the point from this video fleshed out as possible because I want to let people know that Gravity Falls is not above criticism, and it's more than fine to admit when a different show, whether it is a successor or not, is better. I've seen so many people give so much praise to GF and while it does deserve praise, we tend to ignore the flaws because of it. The same goes for Amphibia too. It's not above criticism, and I have my own criticisms of it too. Overall, we should be open to admit that you believe one is better than the other because you actually believe it, not because the masses agree with that opinion as if it is fact. Thanks for reading my TED Talk lol

Despite how both Gravity Falls and Amphibia ended, I think we can all agree that they are much better than Star vs the Forces of Evil ending.

If gravity falls and amphibia had emotional endings then I’m terrified to see what the owl house is gonna be like

Another thing I think Amphibia did better than Gravity Falls is Marcy and Mabel’s fantasy, even though Mabel land has more screen time than Marcy’s fantasy, I still like Marcy’s version more, because she doesn’t need anyone to convince her to wake up, she’s able to realize the harsh reality by herself, and the reason she’s able to do all of that is because she has faced her consequences and has learned her lesson, and she knows it very well that even if she rejects the fantasy, she still has to move away with her family, but she still does the right thing, and the part when Marcy was left alone in the dark, but the photo of Anne, Sasha and Marcy still shined brightly show that even though reality can be dark, but there are still things that can give you hope and comfort….

This is a good point as with Amphibia, it gives a much better lesson of growing up being much harder and tricker to control, and that as well you're not really able to go back and so are forced to keep moving forwards. Whereas in GF, it is completely open to more shenanigans and hijinks being able to happen as opposed to the 5 year later scene in Amphibia showing the actual long-term view of growing up.

Well you arent wrong. Amphibia learned from gravity falls and became better. Classics inspired improvements . I think Alex would be proud of his friend matt achieving such success

While this video does make good points about both Gravity Falls and Amphibia, I do partially and respectfully disagree on some points regarding Stan's sacrifice and Anne's sacrifice. When it comes to Stan's sacrifice, it was partially set up by what happened to Fiddleford Mcgucket. Fiddleford used the memory gun on himself so many times that his mind was permanently damaged, yet by seeing his true memories, he did recover somewhat overtime. That sets up Stan's recovery from his sacrifice, and it was a sacrifice. If Stan hadn't done the memory wipe, Bill Cipher wouldn't have been defeated. Stan may have recovered quickly, but it doesn't take away from his sacrifice, and how Stanley Pines, the twin that people thought wouldn't amount to anything, ultimately saved Gravity Falls and the entire world. Also, there are hints and theories that Bill Cipher survived, with some thinking he's somewhere in Stan's mind, while others think he may be in another form. Like you said, that's a whole other topic. As for Anne's sacrifice, I agree that it was more impactful, but I don't agree that the Anne Boonchuy that came back is NOT the same Anne Boonchuy that we've been with the entire series of Amphibia. The series and Matt Braly himself left it too ambiguous and up to interpretation. Plus, the wrong shoe on the wrong foot reason isn't enough of an argument to suggest that the resurrected Anne Boonchuy is a different entity entirely. Even the guardian deity said it was sending Anne "back" to the land of the living, implying that Anne is still the original. It can be argued that Anne was resurrected in a different body. There are existential implications for Anne's resurrection which is a consequence of Anne dying, but I personally think that the Anne that came back is the same Anne Boonchuy from the start of the series.

I always thought the one thing Amphibia did better than Gravity Falls was foreshadowing, particularly of the subtle variety. Gravity Falls was so good at foreshadowing, it spawned an entire internet community dedicated to Discovering, Decoding, and Protecting its secrets. But the thing is, even though you didn't know *what* was being foreshadowed, it was usually pretty obvious what was and was not foreshadowing. Amphibia's foreshadowing is much different. Sure, it had mysterious books and writings, but much of it was things you would never even notice was there until it came back later. Examples: - Loggle's buff statue of himself in Cane Crazy foreshadowed his actual appearance in season 3 - Anne's drugged-up line about Domino being "the alpha and omega, an interdimensional being beyond all time and space" came true when The Guardian changed its appearance to that of the cat - The poster behind Anne's bed is the location where she met The Guardian - When Anne talks to her parents at the beginning of The New Normal, Polly is hiding in a trash can which also contains Teddy Lovekins (the animatronic teddy bear that Anne tries to use to replace Frobo, and that Polly subsequently steals the batteries from in order to power Frobo) - In True Colors, Polly has an itchy butt all day, up until she grows her legs at the end of the episode.

I always thought Stan had "regained" his memory because Ford typed in "Stanley Pines" in the gun, so he would forget the life he lived as Stan and only recall the life he lived as Ford That sounded nice in my head

In defense of Stan getting his memory back McGucket also got his memories back and that was after using the memory gun on himself so many times he turned into a shell of his former self. The main thing I take Amphibia doing better than Gravity Falls is Marcy as a character compared to Mabel. Marcy falls under the similar role of the hyperactive funny girl, but Mabel had a large number of moments where she is downright selfish and never gets called out for it. Dipper gets punished for pursuing his obsessions and chasing girls, Mabel on the other hand gets to chase after as many boys as she wants with no consequences while Dipper often has to make sacrifices for her sake. Sock Opera even pointed this out, but Mabel didn't make much of a sacrifice she decided her boy of the week wasn't worth it. I have nothing against Mabel being tricked by Bill in Weirdmaggedon. She didn't realize it was Bill at first we've seen Mabel tricked by people less crafty than him. The issue is how it's resolved. Mabel is convinced to give up the paradise Bill gave her not because it's wrong to hide away while the rest of the world suffers, but because Dipper promises to always be with her. Marcy in contrast is gradually set up to have a dark side, which in True Colors comes to light with the reveal she intentionally got the Calamity Trio sent to Amphibia and he had been planning to make sure they NEVER returned home so she could keep exploring new worlds. All to ensure she wouldn't be separated from her friends when her parents moved away. When possessed by the Core, Marcy is confronted with the same temptation as Mabel; hide in a reality where she can have whatever she wants. In particular she is given copies of Anne and Sasha who will obey her every desire. Unlike when Mabel was presented with a copy of Dipper in Bill's prison who obeys her, Marcy rejects the whole thing. She realizes that the real Anne and Sasha would want to do whatever she wants to do, with the copies being rightly presented as creepy. Mabel was presented with a reality she could hide away in, and was convinced to give it up with the promise Dipper would stay with her. Marcy was presented with the same offer, and she accepted that it would be wrong to hide away in it even if she had to deal with being separated from Anne and Sasha. It's like Marcy was written in response to the criticisms of Mabel. She's criticized by characters and the narrative for her selfishness, while Mabel got an episode that said she was above criticism.

Considering how Amphibia, Gravity Falls and Star Vs ended, I wonder what route they'll take with the owl house

People keep saying that what happened with Stan after fighting Bill made no sense...but I have something that challenges that idea. I recall a near similar situation happening in Futurama, a long time ago. In the episode Fun on a Bun; Leela goes about getting rid of her memories of Fry, after believing she ate him by accident. But the woman working the memory machine explained that all those memories would still BE there, she would just be cutting the mental links between them. It took a kiss with Fry to re-establish those connections and thus, I believe the same thing happened with Stan. Waddles licking him, Mabel reading from her scrapbook, Soos being...well, Soos; all of this helped bring back Stan's memories. At least, that's how I choose to look at the end

I think another reason why and Anne's death is more impactful is because we have seen the beginning and end of our character arc and her life

I still like gravity falls much more

I’m still convinced that only her original body died, while her consciousness survived and transferred in a new body, like a file in a computer is transferred in a USB card and vice versa. Or Baymax’s motherchip being put in a new robotic body, after he secretly removed it from its original body. Or SPOILER ALERT… Roxas, Namine and Xion having their hearts (and in Xion’s case, her memories) put into new vessels in Kingdom Hearts 3, so they would come back without injuring their procreators (Sora and Kairi) It’s a case of “New Body, Old Soul”. After all, the entity didn’t specified what they truly meant with “backing her up”

Memories returning was set up in GF. We saw McGucket regain his memories as well. You might say that it was because he saw the memory tube play, but thats no different than reading the memories in Mable's Scrapbook. It's not like McGucket was hit with a "memory restoring ray" that used the tube to give him the memories back directly. Alex also said that the memory restoration process would take longer than what they showed in the show. That's why there's a time skip to their birthday, and he implied that that work would still be done after that to get Stanely back.

I swear, if ToH's ending is that Luz stays in the human world and the others in the Boiling Islands, and they never meet again, I'll burn down Disney Studios. Anyway, I like Gravity Falls more than Amphibian for: -the paranormal and the cryptids -the villains -the plot twists -the mistery -the lgbt+ rapresentation, even if Alex Hirsch wanted to do more

There as something an artist pointed out about the epilogue for Amphibia that I agree with. See it's around the anniversary of the invasion and Sasha and Marcy are celebrating Anne's birthday with her, except it wasn't her birthday, at least not the Anne we knew for most of the series. The timelines did not line up there and there was no mention of it so it would be weird for that little fact to be brought up in the epilogue unless they acknowledge the Anne they are meeting is different since the original Anne died and the new Anne was born.

i felt like Anne’s clone was out of nowhere, perhaps there was some foreshadowing but i didn’t really watch any theory or make any myself, which made it feel less important to me than Stan’s sacrifice

Honestly, after Amphibias finale, I could never watch the show the same way again knowing that it ends with everyone leaving

I think that why gravity falls had stan come back so quickly is because they didn't have the time, or just wanted to embrace the "less is more" that the creator wanted

Idk for me I feel like measuring quality based on how much "edgy" stuff did (for lack of a better term) pretty shallow. Like "wow this one had a rEaL dEaTh and the character cAnNoT sEe eAcH oThEr eVeR aGaIN, darker and edgier implications so it's better". That just doesn't make sense to me as a point. Don't get me wrong I like amphibia a lot, and I am an advent defender of it to a lot of people who dismiss it for equally dumb reasons, but I cannot call it better than gravity falls just because it had a technically heavier ending. The weight of a show's ending should be propositional to the setting. Gravity falls, while mysterious, has a fairly grounded setting centering around mainly a few key locations that are constantly changing as they are being "intruded" by the story. Amphibia setting has a grander scope by nature, being set in a different world, we naturally venture outward to explore it instead. The endings of each reflect the weight of the setting as they should. Gravity falls frames this as the end of summer, it's the end of an adventure and the beginning of the new year, but it doesn't exude a totality because a grounded setting implies that this isn't supposed to big of a "stretch". Amphibia's ending is framed as the the end of an era, the past is over, just a memory. This makes sense with the grander setting as having the grander setting persist makes it lose its grandure. Both shows have good endings for what they are aiming for. For me the deciding factor really is just that gravity falls is frequently a lot funnier and rewatchable imo, which is actually helped in part by the more grounded setting. I definitely think both are better than the owl house though (here goes I'm ready to get ridiculed). Not going to touch in why here cause this comment is long enough as is and it's not the subject of the video, but if someone asks maybe I will.

Honestly Anne's sacrifice was as heartbreaking as Leo's sacrifice in Rise of the TMNT movie.

Considering the fact that a lot of the people that worked on Gravity Falls have worked on the series that followed, it shouldn't be that big of surprise and should expect it.

If they had made it so that Stan could only vividly remember the important things but still forgetting some things would give it more weight.

1:28 Bill: Why? Thank you for the compliment!

0:45 disturbing is an understatement in that specific scene

Amphibia's sacrifice with anne was similar to that of ninjago's sacrifice. Specifically zane's sacrifice. I still get emotional to this day about the finale to this day. Both had an important character die due to a strong power to defeat a big evil. Both get a new body however its different from their old body. And lastly. Both left behind something that is reminiscent of their passing. The only differences is that zane was found by his friends later. Meanwhile anne's was found by her friends immediately after revival. Zane's body is immediately different from view yet you can stil tell its him. Meanwhile anne was nearly the same as before just only different footwear. And lastly. How they were reborn was different

I feel like there like there are some other problems with Anne’s death like that she comes back to life to find out she will become a god and live forever but Stan’s sacrifice has problems to but in my opinion it does make sense because it was right after and it took a week and I know you talked about this McGuckic got like half of his memories back from like a minute of watching his video logs and it was 30 years after he lost his memory while for Stan it took him a week to get his memories and what they called scrap book therapy and Stanford telling him of his child memories and they should have said this but it was implied that since he started to get his memories back before an hour made them come back faster I wish they just had more time to explain how he got his memories back.

Ehh, I feel like Anne's death gives us more questions than answers. But with gravity falls, it makes sense. But it could have been done better. With amphibia, domino ||| comes out of nowhere, and conveniently erases the consequences of Anne's sacrifice. So the same thing gravity falls did, but worse. And Anne not really being Anne is still debatable, it's something nobody truly knows. But it's more likely that Anne is still Anne, but just in a different body. And it happens very quickly, so there's no time to truly get emotional over it, unlike with Stan getting his memory wiped. And it's not like we haven't seen others getting their memories back after it got wiped, we saw that with McGucket. It just makes more sense than a god appearing out of nowhere, and making a copy of Anne. And in journal 3, it reveals that Stan didn't completely regain his memories, Ford had to show him clips of their childhood for Stan to completely regain his memories. Although, we should have seen that in the show. But there are some things that Amphibia did better, Marcy for example has the character arc that gravity falls tried to do with Mabel.

I personally liked Gravity Falls’ ending more because mother olm telling Anne at the beginning of the episode felt really thrown in and unplanned, like “Hey did you know that there is a secret way to defeat the core that I totally forgot to tell you about?” Whereas the Stan’s switching places and erasing Stanley’s memory felt more natural. Amphibias domino lll scene felt better paced than gravity falls sketchbook scene but overall for me I prefer gravity falls’ finale. Just my opinion.

The only thing that I thought could’ve been done better is Annes calamity form. I mean it felt undone if that makes sense… Like we know she’s portrayed to be really strong and magical in that form and stuff but it never seemed that way. Honestly it just felt like “Oh cool, she can fly now and can put on a blue light show.” I just wished it was portrayed better, almost like The Collector from The Owl House.

While I do agree that Amphibia has the superior finale, (as well as just being a superior show in general) I disagree about Stan's sacrifice not being a sacrifice. While it's true that his memory was revived a bit easily, Stan, nor any of the characters, knew that Stan was going to be able to even get his memories back! I think the fact that Stan was willing to sacrifice himself is the truly important thing here. It was assumed that Stan was, mentally, gone. But it just happened that Stan was able to get his memories back. Even if just with a scrapbook. I personally think that Stan's sacrifice was a real sacrifice. Because imo, sacrifice doesn't always mean losing something. I think it actually means your gaining something. You gain trust, respect, you've gained confidence to make such a brave act. I think sacrifice also means being willing to do what's right. So that's why I think Stan's sacrifice was truly a sacrifice. He did what was right, not knowing what would come of it. He knew he was going to lose his memories, true. But he didn't know that he would get to remember again. Stan did what he felt was right, and at the end of the day, isn't that truly what matters?

You guys can like Gravity Falls’ ending more, or you can like Amphibia’s ending more. But at the end of the day, I think we can all come together and say that at least it wasn’t like whatever bs the svtfoe team pulled out of their ass

Ghosts are a real thing, if grunkle Stan didn’t get his memories back, than his mind would be gone like what most people who don’t believe in ghosts think happens when you die.

As much as I love amphibia I don't agree it's better than GF. First, those long term consequences for the sacrifice are not acknowledged other than by an untrascenting joke and is not given any sort of place in the narrative, which imo does make the undoing of the sacrifice as disappointing as GF unerasing was for u probably. Does this mean I think GF is perfect, or that Amphibia isn't better than it on some aspects? Absolutely not (for example, I consider Marcy's Arc to be a better executed Mabel arc) but I don't think the resolution to Anne's sacrifice is more satisfactory or better executed than Stanley's.

“I’m gonna have to toss you out the window.” *throws Sasha out a frakking window* “Ha ha! A flawless escape!” “And did you have a plan for AFTER you threw us out a window?”

That actually makes Amphibia’s ending worse Because there actually no consequences and the clone got a undeserved ending for someone that had there last words was a alright joke with no meaning

gravity falls, the owl house, and amphibia are three of the best tv shows I've ever watched

I admit, i never thought I'd find an opinion like this! It's nice to hear about such a different perspective and it made me smile to hear how much you cared about amphibia. The only reason i disagree with stan's memory recovery being too convenient is less of a technical one but an emotional one? It's because mabel throughout the ENTIRE show has been working endlessly on her own "journal", the scrapbook about this last childhood summer. She's shown working on it just as consistently as dipper working on the journal. Stanley always put family first so it was nice to see it wasn't an invention or mysterious phenomenon that helped him, but mabel's own way of putting family first. Mabel, who so desperately wanted to have a happy summer that would be worth remembering, was the one to help him because it was- it was a summer worth remembering to stanley.

Things that make amphibia being my fav/1 show : 1. the story / the plot 😚 2. The soundtrack 🤧 3. The comedy🤪 4. Last but not least... ( final hug for anne and sprig)🥺 5. Bonus( grown up dolly 🤩🤩)

What about if anne could still use the dimension rift that Terry made and they have the correct notes of the music box and send letters that way to amphibia

When I saw this, I literally copied a quote from bill cipher saying “I T S F U N N Y H O W D U M B Y O U A R E .”

I still think Amphibia and GF are in the same level of writing. Of course, Amphibia is a little better because they learned from the mistakes of GF and other successful shows. After all, Amphibia hits a lot more close to home in a really personal level (mostly with the friendship side) and that's why it's my fav Also, who doesn't love seeing their favorite character being stabbed? ;)

I think Alex Hirsch loved his characters SO much that he doesn’t want them to die. He doesn't want Stan nor Bill to die.

I love gravity falls and I like stan as well plus the ending of stan saying good-bye to dipper and mabel so I hope that the owl house will end with luz being in the demon realm with amity and her friends!

I agree, but I think you missed the mark on why Amphibia was slightly better. I don't think that it was the sacrifice that made the difference, I think it was the closure and that in Amphibia, the characters will most likely never see each other ever again (except Sprig had a phone so idk). In Gravity Falls, they were bound to come back within a year, meaning that there was no real "goodbye", it was just a "cya later"

*Unpopular Opinion:* Pacifica Northwest is a better version of Sasha Waybright. As brief as Pacifica Northwest's character arc was, it still felt natural and fleshed out Personally, I thought Sasha's character arc was quite a disappointment

Anne needed a deus-ex machina to bring her back. All Stan need was his family.

Is it a problem that I relate to Bill Cipher and therefore give him the title of my favorite character? Edit Bill playing the piano No context

A clone taking your place is probably several people's fear

2:23 That question still haunts my mind to this day whenever thinking about Gravity falls.

Guys, you can’t compare them when they’re more than 5 years apart, Gravity Falls started in 2012, Amphibia in 2019.

What do you mean they did it better? Gravity falls did the ending way better

ohh and besides, Stan's sacrifice was in vane, because Bill asked for forgiveness to a higher being and got saved

That is not the only thing Gravity Falls did wrong that Amphibia did right in the series finale! After Dipper and Mabel versus the Future and Escape From Reality got many criticisms from many current and former Gravity Falls fans in 2015, and still throughout 2016 when Gravity Falls ended, for ignoring giving Mabel any meaningful character development, and dancing around the entire problem of Dipper questioning if he should leave Mabel to be Ford's apprentice, Twelve Forever and Amphibia, to a much greater extent than Twelve, stepped in to fix that problem when they had a pivotal storyline about a character's 13th birthday, which was also a much greater focal point for the rest of the show than it was for Gravity Falls. Mabel Pines, Reggie Abbott and Marcy Wu were afraid of growing up and growing apart from their family and their friends, so they made a very bold move in order to force them to stay together, to ruin the 13th birthdays of Dipper Pines, Todd and Anne Boonchuy, which they were going to celebrate with their family and one of their closest friends: Wendy Corduroy, Esther Hopkins and Sasha Waybright. To make three long stories short: Gravity Falls started something it did not want to finish (which is why it can use a third-season revival in the next summer with the Pines twins back in Piedmont having other GF characters visit them), Twelve Forever taught us what could be done better to resolve that conflict between three characters, and Amphibia went above and beyond by making a whole show out of it. Both in the metaphorical sense that it made a much bigger version of that storyline than Twelve Forever originally had, and in the literal sense that the entire series was built around that conflict when Marcy was sad to hear the news about her family moving away on Anne's 13th birthday. That is why she got Anne and Sasha stuck with her in Amphibia, but we viewers to not get to know this until the end of Season 2.

The only thing gf could have done better what expand some more on the backstory of the stan twins. But i get why they didnt add more episodes cuz they worked way to hard even having some near dead moments.

Anne’s sacrifice was probably more meaningful than stans as a whole but “For all intents and purposes your the same Anne Boonchuy” so yh it was basicly undone internally by the Guardian of the multiverse (or Domino 3 as you put it)

Finally someone talks about this

People consistently bring up Bill coming back and I would agree if he didn't incite the chant for the Axolotl, he can't come back. He has taken a new form. I do like all of the speculation he might be King from Owl House.... However, I doubt he's coming back to Gravity Falls.

Granted in the end of Marcy’s journal it’s strongly implied that terry had built a new portal and they can come back i would say this is speculation but the way they worded it in the book makes it very clear that they can came back to amphibia

Now looking at the sacrifices I already knew by end of s2 that in s3 it would to be Anne’s turn to do something like that

I never quite understood this criticism about sacrifices. I get the point, but I think the thing that bothers me is that the character doing the sacrifice didn't KNOW that it was going to be undone. If they knew it would be a different matter, because if they knew then it wouldn't really be a sacrifice because they knew they could come back. But they didn't. Anne for example, she didn't know she was going to be able to come back, when she made her sacrifice she thought she was going to be gone for good. And though your right that it will have emotional implications for her in the future, that still doesn't change the fact that she got to come back and see her friends and family and live the rest of her life. I still consider her the same Anne. She may be a clone but she still has the same memories, consciousness, and emotions as Anne. She is still Anne in all the ways that matter, even if she technically has a different physical body. That aside, my logic can be applied the same to Stan. When he wiped his memory, he didn't know he was going to get it back. As far as he knew, he was giving it up forever. The meaning of the sacrifice, at least to me, doesn't come from the action. It comes from the fact that the character was willing to give up something important to them, from their knowledge forever, for the people they love. It seems silly to me to say that just because they were given the chance to come back, means their sacrifice was invalid. Because they didn't know that would be the case. I mean, it seems silly to say that they can't accept the offer to come back, of course they want to come back. They love the thing that they gave up, so if they had the chance to get it back of course they would. If anything, that just shows how amazing it was that they were willing to give it up in the first place. The sacrifice is still meaningful to me because of what the character meant behind it.

Character deaths and sacrifice is hard to get right in cartoons since characters often come back to life either right away or many episodes later. It would be interesting to look at Deaths in cartoons in general since Im not shore what ones fall under sacrifice and then do a topic on that. I'll also list near or almost sacrifice for now since this is brain storming Teen Titans Young Justice Batman, Superman, JLU, Batman Beyond Real Ghostbusters.. no deaths but some near deaths still intense Avatar TLA and Korra TMNT 2012 Gargoyles and Aladin the series I think might have, don't remember Owl House Spiderman Pokemon the Movie Digimon Samuri Jack Transformers Gi-Joe X-Men Kevin Smith's He-Man David the Gnome Life with Louie Thundercats Well basically that's just deaths all over trying to think of Sacrifice deaths is a bit harder But go check them out. Also I generally avoided movies and shows Like Simpsons or Family guy with high death counts.

Did all the calamity box girls have a 'death' scene? (saschas supposed death counts here) Yes Did i cry every time? Yes I probably spelled her name wring :^

So what if instead of Stan magically regaining all of his memories but instead he just gains the memories but not fully recovering so Stanford will try to help him regain all of his memories.

in my opinion bill is the best character in gravity falls

When you rewatch gravity falls: OH GRAVITY FALLS IT IS GOOD TO BE BACK

I still can't believe and accept there's something wrong gravity falls did The show is probably the most perfect show on Disney

I remember like a year ago or something this was in a community post and was voted to make a video on

Okay so a few things I would like to say: 1. Stan’s sacrifice was not meaningless. He did sacrifice his memory to defeat Bill Cipher and that’s is a moment that I will always treasure. If you know what I mean. 2. It has been stated that Bill will return in another form. He could be a bird, a dog, a cat or even a human. It won’t necessarily be because Stan got his memory restored. 3. While a lot of people think that Anne is dead forever and she was replaced by a copy of herself, honestly I don’t believe it. It’s very possible that her soul ended up in this new body that the guardian made for her. So no weirdness there. 4. Both Gravity falls and Amphibia had great finales with the main character making a sacrifice so the villain could be defeated and everyone would be safe. 5. I honestly can’t find anything wrong with theses shows. They both started well and ended with a great finale. I have no doubt that The Owl house will give us a satisfying ending as well.

Happy birthday!

Gravity falls is still a better show tho.

Amphibia made me ugly cry so hard

Gravity Falls had a "see you later alligator" ending while Amphibia had a "goodbye forever" ending. This is why I like the Gravity Falls ending better than Amphibia. I would rather much have a goodbye for now than to never see someone again. While watching Amphibia, I had high hopes that the girls would somehow find a way to travel back to Amphibia whenever they want, however that wasn't the case and I honestly lost some respect to the show. I guess I should blame Disney for lying to us saying that "the adventure is far from over; in fact, it's only the beginning". Also, just because I disagree, doesn't mean that Marngel doesn't get a thumbs up from me! 👍

There is a chance that more gravity falls episodes coming.

i 100% agree

While both shows are great! But in my opinion, I still believe Mabel is well written, a good sister to Dipper, faced the consequences like Dipper and other characters. This is just my opinion so no one shouts or anything of that.

Hey Marngel, I know this might not come as surprise to what I am about to ask you, but are you ready for the release of Marcy’s journal?

It's nice that amphibia took some inspiration from gravity falls

Actually gravity falls did put Stan with a long term consequence well kinda for Stan and ford cause at the end ford says there is more anomalies in the ocean but how would Stan leave if bill is in his mind and the magnestisim force keeps bill from leaving gravity falls?

maybe anne 2.0 had an identity crisis much like Hunter in owl house becuase she doesnt truly know who she is, and shes being who everyone else wants her to be

4:24 Nah, that ain't the same anne because the clone of anne has her shoe on her right foot and not her left..

To me the sacrifice of Grunkle Stan was still very noble because he didn't know his memory would come back. It's kind of like Goku giving his life to help Piccolo defeat Raditz. Yeah the dragon balls make it kind of pointless, but it was still noble.

Another Theory that makes me believe bill is alive if Stan’s memory came back then…. wouldn’t bill come back to?

Can you make a theory for Bill being alive

My favorite character from gravity falls is Bill

i love this vid and comment section you all have great points

I never got very far in the amphibia series

Maybe I sound like an angry Karen or smth but come on, not all shows are gonna be the same!? That’s what makes them so unique

Stan's sacrifice never meant to be a real "sacrifice". Let me explain: in the start of the show Stan isn't such a "good guy", he isn't evil but still a bad guy. Later on you find out that he spent 30 years trying to save his brother, or In other words someone that cares about family but still - bad personally. Fast forward to "mazes, mazes and more mazes" (I have been watching at a different language so sorry if I translated the name or anyting else wrong) he apologized to his family, which marks for Stan's personality finally starts to change. And at the end of the show we see it finishes with him sacrificing himself for others, being a hero at the cost of his life and saying that the biggest mistake Bill has done was that he messed around with his family. The sacrifice meant to show Stan finally finishing to change into a good person and also after they win Bill Stan talks to soos like somting familiar... Want a clue before you guess? Weird jokes and helping soos achieving his dream... Stan realizes that soos sees him as the father he never had (heartwarming when you realize it too). And also Stan last auctions & sentences when Mabel and Dipper are leaving shows that he still trying to stay a little bit like the old Stan but because of what he has done his family knows his true self and also in the news when they say that Stan recovered his memories, he is mentioned as "hero". In amphibia Anne's sacrifice meant to just begin a sacrifice (also I am unsure if losing somting without noticing it counts as "paying a price" for your sacrifice) That's, sorry it took so long and thanks if you got here. PLEASE TELL ME YOUR OPINION ABOUT THIS

I believe both their sacrifices were not good. I say this because even if Anne’s body was destroyed she still lives a normal life and looks the same and everything, just like Stan. Comparing Anne after her body is destroyed and before, they are exactly identical, just like Stan when his memory was fully recovered. To me, these sacrifices are basically the same

Yeah, I'm going to get a lot of hate by saying this... But I thought Amphibia has a better execution over fear of leaving behind your friends or your family was a lot better than Gravity Falls (I hate the preultimate multi-part finale episode Dipper and Mabel vs. the Future and part 2 of Weirdmageddon with a passion).

I agree. However I personally thought that it was Anne, and the body was a clone but with her soul in it? I don’t know, but everyone’s theory’s on it is very interesting!

High key, this may be a hot take, but Marcy's scene in the Mindscape with Aldrich is basically a better executed version of Mabelland. Fight me.

By the way Anne and Grime literally never interacted with each other

In my opinion Anne’s death is reminiscent of baymax’s death

Had 3 seasons

For me it is the opposite The entire Amphibia except for the ending is better than Gravity Falls

its a close battle but ithink amphibia better than any other show yes GF yes TOH amphibias better than those FIGHT ME