The ONLY Mountain Bike You Need, The Humble Hardtail

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This video contains product placement from BMC.
We put two modified BMC Twostroke hardtails head to head to see if we could crown a hardtail that rules them all.
Though both Twostrokes share the same geometry, one has been kitted out as a cross-country race weapon and the other has been tweaked to be a trail shredder designed to take big hits day-in, day-out.
To see which bike comes out on top in this hardtail head-to-head, the two Toms talk you through the changes they’ve each made to their chosen bike before we pit them against each other in a series of challenges.
We’ll see how they fare on the fireroad and technical climbs on our test loop at Whinlatter Forest in the Lake District and find out if they have the descending capabilities to shred the gnar and bring out the smiles on the way back down.
Which bike would you ride? Let us know in the comments!
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Chapters
00:00 Intro
01:24 Stock Build Bike Check
02:28 Modified Bike Check
04:27 First Challenge: Technical Climb
06:37 Second Challenge: Fireroad Climb
08:28 Climbing Conclusions
09:34 Third Challenge: Trail Centre Descent
11:40 Fourth Challenge: Technical Descent
13:24 Results
16:24 Which Bike Wins?
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@bikeradar 10 ай бұрын

Which bike would you prefer? XC race whippet or all round trail bike? Let us know in the comments!

@richdyer2000 10 ай бұрын

Context dependent. - If I could only have 1 bike then definitely an XC hardtail. - If I can have 2 it’s a progressive XC fully and something on the road/gravel boundary - 3, it’s 2 plus an enduro - 4 it’s 3, but with a distinct gravel and aero road - 5…..nah, I’ll save my money….

@harimathur2191 10 ай бұрын

@bikeradar I have a Titan Racing Done Dash Hard Tail. I don't see any MTB channels covering that bike. It's an amazing bike at an amazing affordable price

@harimathur2191 10 ай бұрын

Full sus is nice. BUT a faff setting PSI on shocks. Plus I can service my own HT. The squishy I need send to bike shop: too many parts.

@Yoda-em5mt 10 ай бұрын

Sorry Bmc these lovely bikes have a press fitt bb and internal cables so the only place in my mind is the tip ie rubbish .

@bikdav 10 ай бұрын

I’d say the all around trail bike. I’m more of an explorer instead of a wannabe stuntman.

@mrbigolnuts3041 6 ай бұрын

Those BMC are beautiful hardtails, geometry and frame thicknesses look perfect

@ThunderStruckMTB 10 ай бұрын

As a rider who has been doing this sport since '87 and still chooses to ride a hardtail as my only bike, I really enjoyed this.

@bikeradar 9 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the video!

@ilanpi 10 ай бұрын

Please note that Pauline Ferrand Prevot won XCC and XCO worlds last year on this exact bike. Given the technical nature of contemporary XCO and that it beat all the full suspension competitors, this proves this bicycle's versatility.

@bikeradar 9 ай бұрын

Great point that we missed out! She also won Worlds this year on Pinarello's new Dogma HT, so I think it's fair to say she shreds on any bike!

@bikdav 10 ай бұрын

Finally, someone defending the hardtail. I never got use to full-suspension.

@bikeradar 9 ай бұрын

They can feel a bit odd after years on a hardtail!

@marcgv 10 ай бұрын

I have two bikes: a XC hard tail and a trail full suspension. For me is the best combination.

@andypaul999 10 ай бұрын

Spot on.

@joshuaallswang8016 10 ай бұрын

I couldn’t agree more💯 got the same setup. Same BMC hardtail XC alloy version and a Giant trance full sus.

@runbluelizard 10 ай бұрын

I got a BMC Twostroke 01 and an old Stumpjumper thats been rebuilt for enduro use. Those two bikes can handle any and everything.

@dirtyforksmtb 10 ай бұрын

Hardtails are awesome! HT supporter here! They can do any trail. Maybe slower and maybe more harsh but way more fun! IMO of course:)

@bikeradar 9 ай бұрын

They were both certainly a lot of fun on our test loops!

@joshuaallswang8016 10 ай бұрын

Two bikes. Hardtail for XC (have the same exact one in the video red alloy version ) Full suspension for trail riding! Perfect combination👌💯

@bikeradar 9 ай бұрын

Great combo if you can have two bikes!

@ttambm8639 10 ай бұрын

Last year I sold my full suspension and went for a carbon hard tail. I have not regretted it at all.

@bikeradar 9 ай бұрын

Nice!

@emercxkcorsa 10 ай бұрын

I love this. Can you do an XC to Gravel comparison? I feel like vides that test a XC bike to a gravel just keep things stock. I would love a video that explores the possibilities of an XC bike with gravel wheels/tires and maybe different gearing.

@bikeradar 9 ай бұрын

We have done exactly that! www.bikeradar.com/features/gravel-bike-vs-hardtail-vs-cx-bike-at-grinduro-scotland/

@theycallmebernd 10 ай бұрын

My Orange P7 & Lyrik with 150mm does everything for me!

@giulianos9345 5 ай бұрын

I got my twostroke a couple of months ago and I also started to modify it to a more trail capable version and I really love it. Very light, good to control and great to ride and stunning to look at 😅

@frienduro24 10 ай бұрын

Unless you are racing XCO World Cups. They are good learning bikes, winter bikes and back up bikes. I would agree if it was 2010, not anymore with how great short travel fs bikes are now

@bikeradar 9 ай бұрын

Great to have options! You're right, short travel FS bikes are very capable and efficient, but some just like the feel of a hardtail

@benefiet 8 ай бұрын

I live in a flat landscape in Belgium. Winding singletrack in the woods and sand dunes are the only option in the area. XC hardtail is the best option for me + enduro bike for trips.

@ryanmichels2981 10 ай бұрын

I love hardtails. Unfortunately my back doesn’t.

@bikeradar 9 ай бұрын

You and a lot of other people!

@MrChristiangraham 10 ай бұрын

Every time someone mentions bikes as weapons, my mind tends to go to Nathan Barley 🤣

@charleskelly1887 10 ай бұрын

My Tom Ritchey hardtail 29er (the one he built for NAHBS) is my nicest bike.

@bikeradar 9 ай бұрын

Lovely, lovely bike!

@flatorange 6 ай бұрын

I have a Mason Bokeh, which I rode for many miles, including the Dirty Reiver 200. However, a year ago, I bought a BMC Twostroke AL because the Mason struggled on off-road club rides with friends, given the presence of a fair bit of single track. Unfortunately, I am afraid I have only used the Mason twice in the past year. As Triggers broom its now a mixture of these two bikes, more like the XC one but with a dropper.

@phenofinder9145 10 ай бұрын

Hardtails!

@Maccaboy1984 10 ай бұрын

Specialized Epic HT is my only bike, covers all of my needs and is great fun

@bikeradar 9 ай бұрын

Hardtails are perfect for a lot of riders, and if you love it that's all that matters!

@drdubs6762 6 ай бұрын

Love the BMC Twostroke, the geometry is incredible. Only have the AL 2 tho, not sure if the carbon one is worth the extra money?

@cebuanostud 10 ай бұрын

If they put single 52teeth chainring up front I'll get one. Yes, my quads told me so. 😎

@bikeradar 9 ай бұрын

We could see some bodging having to be done to achieve that!

@vonWeizhacker69 10 ай бұрын

Thx for the Hardtail content! ;) Any notes on the garbaruk cassette?

@bikeradar 9 ай бұрын

It is very, very light and cheaper than SRAM equivalents. Shifting isn't quite up the standard of SRAM/Shimano, but really not far off at all. Very impressive!

@tomassanesson902 10 ай бұрын

Awesome bikes

@bikeradar 9 ай бұрын

They were great fun to ride!

@JamesRobertMTB 10 ай бұрын

Would love a rip on a modern aggressive hardtail. Just to see how capable they are.

@bikeradar 9 ай бұрын

Way more capable than a lot of people think!

@Ghostina1 8 ай бұрын

Love my YT Capra. It´s great but i do love my Sworks EPIC HT even more!

@ehywa9799 9 ай бұрын

BMC😍😍😍👍👍👍👍

@freddycool68 9 ай бұрын

Why didn't you put a dropper post on both bikes? It's a minor weight penalty compared to gains. Especially that dropper post is common in Xc world. For me this test doesn't make too much sense. However kudos for a good subject to discuss😊

@99Luge Ай бұрын

I have the TwoStroke AL with a Rockshox SID SL 100mm and a dropper. Is it just me or did the riders seem to not use lockout on their way up the fireroad climb? I often debate when to use lockout or not...

@spinnetti 5 ай бұрын

I find, the better the bike the more extreme the trail needs to be to keep it challenging (maybe more risk of injury?). Pretty happy with my hardtail, though I cut 6" out. of the handle bars, dunno why they are so stupid wide these days.

@siriosstar4789 10 ай бұрын

I believe it's better to learn on a hard tail because you will feel the impact of ALL of your mistakes . you simply won't be able to get away with taking the wrong line without some consequence . On a full suspension you can plow through and over all kinds of things that would make you crash if you were on a hardtail. when you've become proficient on a hardtail THEN move on to a full suspension .

@bikeradar 9 ай бұрын

An oft said point! Tom did exactly this and largely agrees, definitely teaches you a lot, similar to flats vs spds!

@janihocevar6387 6 ай бұрын

both should have dropper for fair competition

@user-vk4lp7xh4j 8 ай бұрын

На карбоновой версии, трудно приобрести подсидельный штырь, так как он не в каждом магазине есть и это нечестно.

@shaun1900 10 ай бұрын

Great advertorial for BMC

@LongbranchOlivetti 9 ай бұрын

95% of my miles are done on my 9.16KG XC hardtail bike. I really only use my full sus for uplift days.

@robborland290 10 ай бұрын

What was the weight of each bike as tested?

@bikeradar 9 ай бұрын

The carbon bike was 9.33kg without pedals, in a rush to film we didn't get a weight for the alloy one! Fair to say it was a chunk heavier either way

@yukiko_5051 10 ай бұрын

The only bike that i need is full rigid one

@bikeradar 9 ай бұрын

A gravel bike? 😉

@alfrednOObel2 10 ай бұрын

Apart from that I have also gone through some midifications of my hardtail trying to make an enduro bike of it. Which came out pretty good. I must say that you both guys really have to do something about your voice recording. It hurt to hear as your voices get overdriven each time you raise your voices.

@bikeradar 9 ай бұрын

Your hardtail sounds ace fun! We'll work on the audio, thanks for highlighting the issue!

@maxfish2301 10 ай бұрын

My 2011 specialized Stumpjumper sworks ht ( large frame ) was 7.4kg out of the box. Nothing will compare to that bike.

@bikeradar 9 ай бұрын

That's mad considering we weighed one at 8.91 kg...

@colincoulthard3021 10 ай бұрын

Where was your test loop please?

@bikeradar 9 ай бұрын

Whinlatter forest was out main loop!

@Daniel-ynuhnunu 10 ай бұрын

First 😊

@bikeradar 10 ай бұрын

1,000,000 BikeRadar gold stars are on their way! 🥇⭐

@arbjful 10 ай бұрын

@@bikeradargive him a hardtail..

@Tequila628 10 ай бұрын

67 head angle? Hardtail? No, thanks =)

@joshuaallswang8016 10 ай бұрын

lol your too soft for a hardtail🤣

@Tequila628 10 ай бұрын

I value my knees, brother@@joshuaallswang8016

@bikeradar 9 ай бұрын

They're no downhill bikes but they were way more capable than you'd think!

@titaniumgravel 10 ай бұрын

PressFit.... ugh.

@joshuaallswang8016 10 ай бұрын

There threaded bottom brackets bro. At lest on the aluminum version.

@bikeradar 9 ай бұрын

Don't that to our own Simon Von Bromley - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iLuEn8Zmus7VaWQ.html

@tuxtoo1 7 ай бұрын

Jeez, entitled or what. Money is no object in regards to what bikes we ride. Considering the price of these bikes, they are definitely not in "The Humble Hardtail" category. Try riding a real "humble" hardtail.