Make a video about the new B-52 variant.

As a veteran of WT do I get any perks if I use this link ?

Play DCS instead if you want a real A-10 simulation. I've played War Thunder and I got fed up with the grind, cost and lack of realism. DCS has dozens of aircraft modelled in extreme detail all at a fair price, especially when compared to the "premium" aircraft in Wae Thunder.

WT is garbage

@@spacechimp6442 yes DCS and other hard core Sims are Great but at the moment I do not have time for them aka only 10 min to starup engines . But when I hit pension Here I come hard core Sims 👍🤟

So cool !!

Wow, that’s something to remember

@@desdicadoric as I have all these years. It was a very cool experience for sure

So, Greg, did you go into the USAF and become a pilot ?

Cool - never forget !

Wow, what an honor/oppoertunity. Thank you and your son for your service.

When I was at Fort Bragg from 92 to 95, a bunch of a-10 crewmen who were there on TDY came in to a local bar one time to have a few drinks, and the place was packed, but just as soon as we figured out who they were, we made room for them right up at the bar, and not a single one of them were allowed to buy a drink all night long. To say that there's a special relationship between Army guys and A10 guys is somewhat of an understatement.

Awesome.

Thanks for helping build one of the coolest planes to ever exist. I likely fawned over your work as a child. I hope your son stays safe and comes home to you!

🤯🥰🥰🥰

Plenty Taliban survived this attack, they are all running Afghanistan right now....and they did not even loose a single one of their own ground attack aircraft

@@contort69 You're just fun aren't you

The sound is generally described as "BRRRT". Do a youtube search for that and that's what you'll get.

@@strawhousepig if you heard it in person you would know Brrrt doesn’t do it justice. But hey, thanks for the critique.

@@mancima No doubt. Just saying that's what folks use to describe it. Could also describe the sound people make in their shorts at the angry end of an A-10.

Original P-47's were still named Thunderbolt. The pilots nicknamed them Jugs. It wasn't till later with the bubble canopy, were the early versions differentiated as Razorbacks

@@jasonanalco542 The original P-47As had distinctive humped backs, which is where their nickname came from; they also had clamshell canopies. Bubble canopies weren't introduced into the P-47 until later models of the P-47D.

Absolutely. 👍

One story I heard for the Warthog monicker was due to the P-47 being called the Razorbak, thus the Warthog was a natural nickname for the A-10, the successor of the Thunderbolt name. Other stories are a lot more unforgiving, stemming ffrom the time when majority of the USAF pilots looked down on the A-10.

@@urbypilot2136 The nickname for the A-10 came from Republic's three prior jets, the F-84 Thunderjet, F-84F Thunderstreak, and F-105 Thunderchief. The F-84 required a stupidly long runway and cool weather for a reliable take-off, and when the conditions weren't perfect, they'd usually overrun the runway; so many of them ended up nose-down in the dirt that the nickname "Groundhog" prevailed (it's pilots also called it the "Ground-Loving W####", but that name couldn't be spun into good PR). The F-84F and F-105 also had similar limitations, but because they were faster, they ended up being nicknamed the "Super Hog" and "Ultra Hog", respectively. As the A-10 was ugly, and usually operated low down in the mud, the nickname "Warthog" was almost inevitable.

And the A-10 is slow enough that it’s going to take all that battle damage where an F-16 would be in and out unharmed.😊

@@Justanotherconsumer Ask any American soldier what they want over their head, an F-16 or an A-10? Nuff said 😆

you are right, the AF was the one that wanted to kill it off not congress

@@Justanotherconsumer, psychological warfare is just important as actual warfare.🙄 To see one in action is to end this conversation. While it CAN fire any air to ground missile in the inventory, a storm of BIG ASS BULLETS has a most satisfactory effect on the enemy’s WILL to fight.🤭 It doesn’t need to “destroy” tanks with its gun. It can STILL badly damage most tanks, other armored vehicles besides tanks, and it carries A GANG of missiles to take them out before they get close enough to pose a threat.😁

I loved that show! This was the golden era of The Discovery Channel, that actually tried to be informative and not just be a wasteland of garbage reality shows, that it is now. We're taking knowledge for granted and rewarding stupidity and pure self-indulgence, and I'm glad that I'm not the only one who is sick of it!

in fact the memory makes me cry, but they are happy tears of joy

Is that a red or blue state, tory or Labour, aka Democrats or Republican?

​@@smartchip Why does that matter

@@colten7525 curious, that's all, What made you ask if it matters?

@@smartchip The British parties fancy but also a10s fly above my house almost everyday they are stationed at martin state airport in Baltimore

Seeing one of these nearly hover over you and save your butt after a rough day at work is... awe inspiring. The guys and gals that fly these have my respect until the day they put me in the ground. They will spend every pound of fuel and every round of ammo to help if your in a pickle... and then some. MAD respect for them and their hogs..Still get goosebumps when I see one and well, they are awesome. Simply awesome AND These crews are SO different from other crews providing support... HOG pilots are... freakily with you once you have one on station. They instantly become part of your team on the ground and do everything in their power to help either with guns, intel on positions or whatever...

@@kantemirovskaya1lightninga30 so true. It’s literally like having that extra guy on the ground with you that somehow knows everything on the battlefield

I got to touch the mini gun at the Homestead Air base. What a feeling of power in my hand at that moment. I feel sorry for anyone in its sights! Those birds are awesome and so are the pilots who fly them and the troops they protect.🇺🇸

In it's own funny way, the Warthog kind of reminds me of the Connie... (Super Constellation to those who ain't with the "vernacular")... She's a gorgeous ol' gal that most can appreciate in a picture, but unless you've been on the ground to SEE her, you just don't know... When the engines spool up to full power and the flames pop out, you're suddenly excited all about an airplane again, and DAMN is that sexy as HELL!!! The Warthog... well, aesthetically (???) not much. I mean, even quite a chunk of the pilots admit it's called "Warthog" because it ain't what everyone would call "pretty"... BUT BE there... BE on the ground with it just once. Suddenly, in spite of any aesthetic questionability, if you're up to your tits in trouble, it's the WARTHOG you're damn thankful to have on your side! Nothing sexier than knowing it's presence means that extra buddy in the sky has your back. You'll be marching home! ;o)

And if it does break over the battlefield and you fly it home, repair it so it will fly again :P

except it is broke and outdated and needs fixing

it is broke to an extreme degree to the point where fixing it would cost as much as an F-35.

@@nightshadedawn lol no it's not, quit eating up everything Lazerpig and NCD says. The only major fix they need is re-winging cause most of the fleets over 12K flight hours. Each set of new wings is $9M and a new F-35A is $78M.

@@zander9774 Are you just going to ignore the fact that the engines lack the thrust they really need and that Pilots are imagine incapable of picking out friend from foe at a distance cause they need to use binoculars? The A-10 has the most blue on blue incidents than any other American aircraft cause pilots can't see shit.

I saw a pair of A-10s flying while I was in the desert in NM. Beautiful sight to see. I had worked for Fairchild (in IT), and the corporate building had such amazing photos of their marvel of engineering. Nothing else like it.

Your brother wasn't?

It’s unimpressive at the intended use of killing tanks, and the A-10 is overkill for COIN operations. It’s like plinking cans with an M2. Amazing to watch, but totally unnecessary.

"They are intimidating even when you're on the right side of the war." Lol it's true because the A-10 has a greatest number of friendly kills because it's outdated to the point that the pilot needs a pair of binoculars to determine if an enemy is friend or foe.

@@Justanotherconsumer also, the F-111 Aardvark took out more tanks than the A-10 during the Gulf War in a faster and better manner.

Not even being on the "right side" helps. It holds the dubious distinction of being responsible for the most blue-on-blue incidents.

Not sure if it was my unit, but on behalf of the entire A-10 community. "Thank you for your customer feedback!"

I've heard some amazing stories about the A10 from soldiers such as yourself. What an amazing aircraft. Thank you for your service

W.P. or HEI rockets? Either way those are two structures "deleted". You know the 40mm is called the "yeetus deletus"? A-10 is the "Brrrrtus deletus."

@@Wpns175 It's a 40mm now? It was 30mm during the war.

@@kennyj4366 - It's still 30 mm.

@@kennyj4366 No, the 40mm "noob tube" grenade launcher sometimes gets the nick name "yeetus deletus". Mk-19, Mortars and sometimes artillery get that nick-name as well.

Too funny!

The national museum of the United States Air Force would disagree with you.. "Used as a high-altitude escort fighter and a low-level fighter-bomber, the P-47 quickly gained a reputation for ruggedness. " it was relegated to bombing and CAS missions post-mustang, which it excelled at. It meets the criteria of a fighter-bomber. I actually have a piece of one on my wall that was lost during a ground attack mission in 1944.

@@willfrankunsubscribed Yeah, at that point I gave up making corrections. To me, that's the tiger mouth from the P-40 Warhawks of The Flying Tigers.

@@thesmirkingwolf The national museum of the United States Air Force would disagree with Dark Skies and who wrote those elements of the script, not me.

@@willfrankunsubscribed Some have tusks painted on, as on the real hog. 😎

Actually he said aero-bomber, so maybe that's what he was implying (again, I said maybe)

That's my understanding too.

Thank you

Thought the same. It wasn't the design, it was the actual aircraft that were aged.

I always loved the Skyraider. I and a wind-up model of it when I was a kid and always thought is was the coolest airplane I made. I remember trying to figure out a way for it to drop bombs in flight, to no avail.

Ahhh the A-1...the A-10s daddy, Great plane.

Nope they’re tusks.

No, they are teeth. The Moody guys have roots back to the AVG in WWII. The Razorbacks have a boar's face and the Illinois guys have a snake face.

this needs to be higher up with all the A-10 and pierre cock sucking propaganda going around.

Wright-Patt never had A-10’s.

@@johnp139 We were told that's where he flew out of. He may have been on a training mission or shuttling the plane. Either way, that was his previous stop as we were told.

It wasn't all topper! Washout guided him in over the radio.

Words out of my mouth lol. This channel even did the stupid “oh the nazi HO was a stealth plane” that lazerpig so soundly debunked.

Laser pig is a heretic. The warthog is God!

The friendly fire incident, right?

@@SWATCHIEF22 blue on blue is this plane's specialty.

@@SWATCHIEF22 yea

@@Batmans_Pet_Goldfish I would say its not the bike, but the rider, right? Definitively not the fault of the british, but rather some bad directions from ground control or FAC or trigger happy, or over drugged pilots were to blame. The fact that the HMS Cardiff shot down a british Gazelle helicopter killing 4. I think blue on blue is not exactly speciality of the A10.... the list is long and most types have incurred in SEVERAL incidents.

@@andreaassanelli4117 the cockpit is notorious for its poor visibility, pilots had to use binoculars to attempt to PID targets. Then take into account that the GAU-8 isn't exactly known for its precision, and you've got a recipe for disaster, as has happened multiple times. Obviously the pilots and ground control were also at fault, but using a sledgehammer while blindfolded isn't exactly the best idea when you want to nail something to your wall.

Updating it is more rational than scrapping it.

Ahhh....our issue wasn't metal fatigue and I doubt that maintenance time number. Our issue is A-10s are old and HEAVILY modified. Which means old wiring and lot's of weirdness that isn't on the drawings that we have to work through. I bet a A-10 load crew can reload an A-10 faster than you can load a hornet. Unless you include the gun. Ours is...industrial strength. The Hornet's is more of a, um...BB gun.

@@Wpns175 Can't say for sure, but the Warthog was made for tank busting so the gun was built for the task. Other aircraft just had a 20mm for other roles and merely load in explosive rounds to make up for the lack of size compared to the how's 30. The maintenance I referred to was a common flight hour inspection/replace of certain components. There's just a lot more to do on an all-metal bird. I still think making a new hog like the Super hornets did (slightly bigger maybe?) would be a good way to retire the Warthog.

Hogzilla

The warthog gun can barely penetrate an M47. The mass majority of the kills against armor it made during the Gulf War was with Maverick missiles.

Ward is trash

Lol I was thinking that was her Ward kept talking over her during interview when going over the cockpit layout. Lol

@@ronaldamesjr.7125 Ward can be a really annoying twat, truly.

You mean the plane that decimated a column of British forces killing and wounding a goiod chunk of them?

@@zeddddd2846 Blue on blue happens in every war. What's your point?

@@Gtrips07 My point is that the a-10 has had more blue on blue casualties and injuries then every other American aircraft combined. And when there are far more effective platforms to use there is no reason to use an antiquated and obsolete one that has a disproportionately high chance of friendly fire.

And a lot of troops and civilians are dead because of the A-10

@@zacharytrevino6321 dead isn’t very common, friendly fire usually ends in injuries, still not good, but most don’t die

@@skeeman7514 I'm seeing a lot of the same type of comment from different accounts. That kind of smells like some sort of bot campaign. The military calls the incidents statistically irrelevant. When you've got less than 100 deaths over the span of thousands of missions flown and a relatively small spread between friendly fire incidents from different platforms. It's most likely the decision making that went into the strike that's responsible for the ff or civ death incident rather than the specific platform.

@@Jeff55369 It's still more friendly fire incidents then all other US airframes combined. That 100 would be less than 50 if the airforce was smart and canned this thing in the 90s

@@colinhobbs7265 Those come from the first Gulf War where DCAS communications were ironed out completely and some where the friendly positions were being over run, so the casualty rate would have been 100% anyway.

Angel. A N G E L Angel. A divine presence or being.

Indeed, I'd imagine that if you and your squad are pinned down, that cannon's scream sounds like a choir of angels

I actually did in 2010 at the 482nd TFW in Homestead. What a fenominal piece of machinery. I saw the entire show with my 8 year old son. We got to touch the Vulcan on her nose! I feel sorry for anyone who wants to pick a fight with a Warthog!🤣🤣

That's due to its role as a CAS airframe. It's sucks but so does war.

@@Darkness_Actual no that is absolutely not fucking why. It’s because the A10 is a highly outdated airframe that does not have modern IFF identification like everything else has and should, leading to LoS only target acquisition which has resulted in numerous blue on blue and pilot injuries/deaths. This kind of shit does not happen with more capable airframes, period.

@@yeetyateyote5570 your diatribe does not have anything to do with what I said. I simply said it happens doing CAS. That's all. No one said anything about IFF transmitters/receivers, line of sight or anything else. You're not giving a war college dissertation calm down.

@@Darkness_Actual CAS is designed to hit enemies close to the allies WITHOUT hitting the allies. Thats the whole fucking point of CLOSE AIR SUPPORT. No allied lives should be an option to be lost. A-10 fucking sucks so Allies were a second thought to its incredibly innacurate spray of lead

@@slonkydonky1403 I'm so sorry I didn't know y'all were FACs and JTACs. Seriously what are y'all trying to prove on KZfaq?

Plinking obsolete stuff isn’t that impressive. Plenty of assessments that the A-10 would be amazing in WW2… but we’re not doing that anymore.

The A-10 was the single worst performing coalition airframe of the gulf war

F-111s killed more armor during the Gulf War, and said kills are actually able to be confirmed, unlike the A-10 via the report done on the air campaign in the Gulf War by the pentagon.

@@colinhobbs7265 yeah they had the highest casualty rate among allied air units and highest blue on blue incidents. The only good thing is for it to be a missile truck, and when the enemy cannot shoot back properly

@@colinhobbs7265 that's like saying it's the worst starting player on the michael Jordan era chicago bulls lineup...

Too bad those tanks were actually British

Your admiration is clear as day, the A-10 should have never been considered for decommission. Might as well take down the B-52 while they are at it!

@@colinhobbs7265 Bot says what?...

@@Roy-op4vk "Might as well take down the B-52 while they are at it!" Not until there is a viable replacement.

F-111s with Pave Tack pods and bombs were just as in fact better at killing tanks than A-10s. If the air force wanted to keep an old design flying it should have been that.

Agreed, it's like in Vietnam and Korea when they thought the hit and get jets could do danger CAS. Then they had to call in the low and slow aircraft to show how it was done since they could actually stay in the area for more than a couple minutes to support the troops as the situation was changing on the ground. Those loitering A-1 Sandies bailed many a ground pounder out of tough situations the fast movers couldn't do or would have arrived too late since they had to take off from a pristine airfield far from the front lines.

Not crazy. Simply made by actually competent people who understand the conditions future near peer conflicts will be fought in. But no, it sounds cool so i guess we're keeping it. Fucking hell.

It's one inch armor meant a lot more back than than what it means nowadays

Cool battles? Experience real warfare, and those battles won't be so cool.

I had wallpaper with blueprint drawings of old biplanes when I was young, something I'd entirely forgotten but for your comment. Thanks for dislodging the memory. 😁

@@cubiczirconiabeard5366 Damn it, who let grandpa on the computer? He's ruining a made-up battle in a kid's head.

Unfortunately that was one of many.

@@Batmans_Pet_Goldfish And yet people still defend this Aircraft.

Sounds like there was bad intel to the pilot or an antsy pilot. You need to be sure what's in your sights is what you want to destroy.

I think it was discussed but nixed by the AF. AF would've lost associated A-10 budget. AF doesn't want army to have any budget for fixed wing AC.

@@terrylutke sounds about right

need this higher up

More at risk than other cas like the ah64?

Who Da Hell??

100% yes

Correction: The A-10 is just so damn useless

@@colinhobbs7265 Yes, but it kicks ass in video games so its fans will never move on.

You forgot b17 qnd b52

@@alexander1485 Oh the BUFF is beautiful. What I really forgot is the B-58 Hustler and a A5H Vigilante.

He said that clearly. It’s designed to protect the pilot and systems of the aircraft

​@@sccarguy8242 If you look at designs of the aircraft its just to protect the pilot and the instrument panel in front of him.

Some 700 A-10s were built, and only about 15% were lost in accidents, with another 40% going straight to the boneyards, never to return. Almost all of them are still there, even though most weren't even 10 years old when they were retired. The USAF won't reactivate them. In other words, there's no shortage of unused A-10s for export --- the USAF generals just won't let anyone have them. After all, the inevitable media exposure of foreign experience with operating the A-10s would undermine the status quo's narrative that they're nothing but a drain of resources.

The US ARMY would love to get their hands on any the USAF doesn't want

@@philgiglio7922 The Air Force doesn’t want ANY of them. The Air Force doesn’t fight on the ground, the army and marines do that.

@@philgiglio7922 The A-10 would serve the Army well, but there's three reasons this will never happen. 1: The USAF and Army set in stone during the 1948 Key West Agreement that the Army would not operate any armed fixed-wing aircraft weighing over 10,000lbs; the A-10 is considerable heavier than this. That agreement is strictly enforced; then the Army armed OV-1 Mohawks in the Vietnam War (albeit only with smoke rockets for marking purposes), the USAF complained to Congress, who forced the Army to stop arming OV-1s. 2: The only reason the USAF ever gave the go-ahead to turn the A-X program into a real aircraft (the A-9 and A-10 were the result) was to short the Army out of their AH-56 Cheyenne attack helicopter program, as it was expected to cost many billions of dollars (that would have been removed from the USAF's budget to pay for it), and the only way to prevent the AH-56 from entering production was to demonstrate a USAF commitment to a dedicated CAS platform (the AH-56 had been developed precisely because the USAF deliberately refused to provide adequate CAS support to the Army). After the AH-56 was cancelled, the immediate succession of it by the AHX program (which produced the AH-63 and AH-64) meant that the USAF still stood to lose a ton of funding if the full 1,200 helicopters the Army wanted were built, so to make sure that didn't happen, they _committed to building_ the AX, and bought the A-10. They succeeded in this goal, as AH-64 production ended (it was re-started decades later) with only 700 completed. The Army bureaucracy still holds a grudge against the USAF and the A-10 over this, and they always will. As Admiral Hyman Rickover famously stated, _"If you have to sin against god or bureaucracy, sin against god; god might forgive you, but bureaucracy never will"_. 3: The A-10 represents unwanted ideological and fiscal competition for Army Aviation's helicopter fleet. They'll cancel it quicker and harder than the USAF ever would, if they ever got control of the program. The Marines would do the same, as the A-10 is only an unwanted impediment to their AH-1, AV-8, and F-35B programs.

I mean if Turkey left all their SAMs and MANPADS at home maybe

lol it just got replaced by cropdusters for providing CAS and loiter to special forces

In both the game and real life, the warthog is not certified for operations where they do not have air superiority. While it is capable of shooting down an opposing aircraft, it carries neither the weapons nor control systems to do so effectively. What it does well is crush ground targets into Oblivion.

tends to happen when you model it so both engines fall off when one engine has enouph 7.7 put into it.

Yeah, that's part of the problem when playing in Arcade mode. Any sense of reality gets replaced by the "rule of cool" and "game balance". So you end up with aircraft that should laugh off anything smaller than a cannon round, falling apart like tissue paper when some hapless biplane gets lucky.

The gun is useless. Fire cone the size of a bus, and cant reliably kill tanks.

@@_Sogo Precision fire is a thing you may not be aware of, and it's not for killing tanks.

@@markfergerson2145 literally the whole reason the gun exists is to kill tanks.

@Mark Fergerson I was enlisted and worked in a squadron. I know the ins and outs of CAS and aircraft. The A10 is overrated and outdated. Its not the survival machine people think, it was outperformed by helicopters and the F111 in the gulf. A10 pilots had to use binoculars to see targets and it has an incredibly high amount of blue on blue incidents.

Don't let that day come to pass. Write to the powers that be and tell them how you feel. Give them hell. If they have something demonstrably better let them prove it. We don't, the A 10 is the greatest gift our ground troops have ever gotten from the Air Force. The JSF-35 is a joke by comparison. The Air Force is always seeking a "one plane that can do everything" and that's a fantasy. A fantasy that's wasting billions of dollars of your tax money. And endangering the lives of the men and women who proudly serve our great nation. Let us protect them, and America's interests. Let's keep the A 10. Godspeed.

Old man here. I watched it too. Very good!

Yup she farts 🤣🤣🤣

The A-10 may look ugly to some, but its silhouette is iconic, and despite being upwards of 70 years old, its still dang effective.

Personally, I think it's a beautiful aircraft. Its decades old and somehow still looks like it's from the future to me.

As the Aircraft with the highest friendly kill record which is more than all other us warplanes combined. This thing is old, dangerous and should be replaced.

@@wheely_boi_6846 as compared to what?

@@redrust3 Here is a list of Aircraft that could do the Job: F-16 F-15 strike eagle F-35 Harrier ll And a friken cropduster!

@@wheely_boi_6846 I think that might be because of the type of missions that it flies. Ground attack or battlefield interdiction are dangerous especially when they are close to friendly forces

@@wheely_boi_6846 all it takes is for one of these unsuitable aircraft to get shot down on a gun run. And everybody’s going to be screaming, “why didn’t you send him the warthogs?“ especially when the pilot’s body gets dragged around the streets of some Third World cesspool.

Neither of them are as durable as the Warthog, though.

Bronco and Super Tuc are used for COIN, not CAS. All manner of USAF and USN fighters, attack aircraft and bombers can provide CAS via PGMs.

@@lordphullautosear Modern aircraft don't survive by tanking hits, they survive by never being hit in the first place.

@@Shoeg4zer-- in an ideal world, maybe. Fact is, aircraft take hits, especially CAS aircraft. No Bronco or Super Tucano could survive the kind of damage that the Warthog can take. Unfortunately, quick and nimble aircraft generally are quick and nimble because they don't carry huge loads of ordnance like the Warthog, which was designed to be a flying Gatling cannon that could also carry lots of bombs and missiles.

@@lordphullautosear The Warthog isn't fit for CAS in a modern combat environment against a peer competitor so there's no point in even having that conversation. We can see what happens to birds like the Hog based on the experiences of SU-25 Frogfoot pilots in Ukraine. Namely they die by the score. The Warthog is still fit for COIN, which the Bronco, the Super Tucano, AT-6 Wolverine, and the aircraft AFSOC just selected, an upgunned crop duster, can all do as well, cheaper, and with better SA than the Hog.

Laserpig did a couple videos you should check out

@@casperops3318 no they shouldn't. Lazerpig admitted himself the 1st vid is based on a 1975 prototype test, 3yrs before the production model. He then admits his 2nd video is citing a 1993 post Gulf War report. When it was still the A model and the gulf was its first combat use. It's not a perfect airframe but most of his critique is based on ignoring another 30yrs of upgrades and combat. Lazerpig let his hate for all things Pierre Sprey and boomer Facebook pages saying "save the HAWG" cloud gis judgement. His hero worship of the F-35 is mostly cause Sprey hated it.

If you mean jets like that waste of taxpayer money called the F35, then yes the A10 is the very best in the world when it comes to CAS

@@zander9774 But, thats when everyone says that the A-10 dominated and was so effective at CAS, so which is it

Best thing to do would be to talk to some of the boys that have had their bacon saved by this jet. Pretty sure if it wasnt acurate and as deadly as discribed most of them wouldnt have made it home to tell the tale of how the A-10 saved them multipul times in combat along with the AC-130 Spooky's or what ever call sign they usually go by.