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The ONLY PRIMING Video you'll ever need. Work Smarter! Not Harder!
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Күн бұрынHow to Prime miniatures so you can get through that huge pile of shame is one of the things that slows us down. But what if there was a whole host of ways to prime so you can actually get things done quickly.
You don't always have to prime every miniature in black. In fact, I'd actively urge you not to. Try priming in multiple colours, try slapchop, try multi colour rattlecan spraying.
Stop thinking of priming as a first sticky layer of paint and think of it as you first colour layer instead!
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@michaelbrockelhurst4227 Ай бұрын
I came for the video on primer and stayed for what proved to be ONE OF THE BEST TUTORIALS ON APPLIED COLOR THEORY I HAVE EVER WATCHED. HOLY COW.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Now that’s a compliment. Thank you, thank you. You always worry that KZfaq buries your video in a pile of dirty laundry. But it seems it did it’s job this time! 😜
@paulhargreaves1497 Ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 I think we need a part 2 to the inks mixing.........just saying.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
What would be in part 2 do you think!
@paulhargreaves1497 Ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 Well......a Dropbox location for the chart 😎. Also, I'd love to know how to mix inks from a CMYK I get from an online colour (say FS as I model aircraft). They omit the white because it's assumed you'll be printing on white. Really appreciate the effort you put into your videos!
@Kakashi-ip8mg Ай бұрын
No doubt
@alphagrendel 28 күн бұрын
Love this. I'm not painting for a Golden Demon. I'm painting to have fun. The hobby needs more of this.
@thestateofplay2023 28 күн бұрын
Yes I wholeheartedly agree!!
@shawnald Ай бұрын
I've seen a couple of these "color zenithal" vids (including Jon's) but the "how" wasn't explained well. This finally broke through my brain fog. Your on-screen graphics were absolute gold. Your explanation was terrific. Your insights into why we do illogical steps was spot-on. It hurt, but I needed to hear it.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Haha! Thanks. Yeah I think a lot of this hobby is doing stuff because we’ve always done stuff. It’s only when you step back and go “hang on a minute” that you can dump all the stuff that just wastes time. 👍🏼
@ajemma78 Ай бұрын
Sometimes the internet is a fabulous place. I just got my studio cleaned up, my airbrush cleaned out ready to go, and a whole tray of clan rats that need to be primed and painted...what amazing timing. Your original airbrushing video convinced me to get one in the first place (Ultra 2024 again thanks to you.) Thank you so much.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Oh man, that Skaventide box just arrived on my doorstep too. Just when I’d already build and primed what I thought - was everything. 🤣
@marcbennett9232 Ай бұрын
I used to paint figures some 25 years ago, and we always primed white. I remember when people first started recommending priming black, and when colored primers started becoming available. I personally only prime black if im painting predominantly metal or black, otherwise I will prime white or my base color.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
And you make perfect sense with that approach. 👍🏼
@Kakashi-ip8mg Ай бұрын
I thought I was getting a simple video on what I thought I was knowledgeable in, and I got schooled by a genius. Sub earned
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
I try not to make simple videos. 🤣 wish I did as they’d take less time to make!
@Kakashi-ip8mg Ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 as a lazy student I totally understand, but as a d level painter trying to improve I really appreciate the work.
@virrcraft Ай бұрын
oh, and maybe timelines for someone, who might be interested... 00:00 - Intro 00:44 - Welcom to the State Of Play -> About this video 01:34 - The end. ok, joke ;) 03:19 - Rattlecan Single Colour 06:26 - Rattlecan For Contrasts 07:40 - Rattlecan B&W Zenithal 10:00 - Rattlecan Multi Colour 11:45 - Airbrush B&W Zenithal 13:34 - Airbrush Multi Colour 18:37 - Airbrush Multi Colour V2 19:48 - Slapchop Greyscale 21:03 - Slapchop Multi Colour 21:56 - Combine Methods White Drybrush 22:43 - Zenithal Plus Contrast Tinting 23:58 - Main tip from this video and final important things (if I haven't missed anything)
@keggers5483 5 күн бұрын
I initially dismissed the title as clickbait, but it's absolutely accurate. Fantastic advice, thank you!
@thestateofplay2023 4 күн бұрын
Thanks. Yeah I try to completely avoid anything clickbait as I hate that myself!
@dan_zehner Ай бұрын
"Brush on primer is like Star Wars the Acolyte." You sir, are the hero this hour needs.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Ah not according to some comments but hey, I stand by my opinions. 👍🏼
@lcmiracle Ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 Who are these shills? Point them to me.
@codyott1982 24 күн бұрын
Im a blood angels player, and I use contrast/speed paints. I suggest doing brown for your base, either tan or light brown for your middle layer, and off white with your drybrush. Or you can do brown base, red, bright orange drybrush. Then do your contrast paint over that. It makes your reds look better.
@thestateofplay2023 23 күн бұрын
Sounds like a good plan!
@codyott1982 15 күн бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 if done right, your shadows will be a maroon color (light red looks when its in shadows) and your highlights will be bright red light the sun is hitting them, and everything in-between will be the proper shade of red for how much light is hitting it. Tons better than black and varying shades of grey going to white. I did some like that and they looked ok..... But not right.
@ElRammo Ай бұрын
The quality of your videos is insane. Pivoted from KZfaq on the console to my phone just to make sure you get the love you deserve. I follow a lot of other channels intermittently and your commentary making some of the colour theory feel relevant and accessible is just quality. You seem like an absolute pro!
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Thanks mate. I guess when you enjoy what you do, it helps to show others.
@ElRammo Ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 I fixed my comment to be clear I was just saying I watch a lot of other channels many will be familiar with, e.g. Goobertown, Dana Howl, Squidmar etc... They're great in their own ways, but I personally feel like when it comes to explaining "art" concepts you have your own niche which will benefit a lot of folks. Just another comment for the algo, nothing to see here 👀
@FranekWrobel-hp7zp Ай бұрын
Binge watching multiple videos a day. Never until now I saved a video to rewatch. You’re a wizard.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Really? Thank you so much. Not even my wife wants to see me that often! 🤣🤣
@fraserskomorowski2311 Ай бұрын
The various quips were priceless...white lines, lol 🤣
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Ah you’ve worked in 90s advertising too. Nuff said!
@Clatakesalook 5 күн бұрын
this guy is a riot !
@ex0ne Ай бұрын
Ha, you mentioned The Acolyte, and the video got interrupted with an ad for... The Acolyte! Foil hats on, guys! 😅
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Really?! Well I guess they have to push it as no one is watching. I guess that’s how ads on KZfaq work, they match them to the words a KZfaqr says, maybe?
@ex0ne Ай бұрын
@thestateofplay2023 it would not surprise me if that's how it actually works. I haven't seen The Acolyte, and more ads won't get me to see it
@kergankerrosson607 Ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 Thats Option 1... Option 2 is "The Algorythm says NERDS"
@Misfit7021 18 күн бұрын
What a great tutorial on how to jump start my brain into painting.
@thestateofplay2023 4 күн бұрын
Glad it helped!
@savage12k 14 күн бұрын
I don't paint miniatures. In fact, for the last 25-ish years I've avoided painting anything. Then a few days ago a mask i had bought that was irritating me with its lack of depth and contrast inspired me to break it my old brushes and...ahem... go buy some paint. Searched one drybrush technique, and now my feed is flooded with miniatures. This video caught my eye, and now I'm noticing everything I did wrong on that damn mask... I had completely forgotten over the last 2 decades that "Shadows aren't black." You've earned this sub, my good sir.
@thestateofplay2023 4 күн бұрын
Thank you mate. I always appreciate it a bit more when someone who isn’t invested in the miniature topic takes time to say something nice. 👍🏼
@Politov Ай бұрын
Helldunkel is my new name for it from now on. Thanks for that 😂
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
I mean I’d advise against but it really is a great word!!!
@jokenarts8312 Ай бұрын
Awesome hidden tip, using a Lego plate for a dry brush test! Very cool!
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
I actually have another video with that exact tip! The one about fidget popper pallettes. 👍🏼
@wigxu 4 күн бұрын
I normally decide on the colour of primer based on the tone of colour I want. Example; bright red, prime white, mid red prime grey, dark red prime black. The colour theory in this video is real brainfood though and I love the thought of primer being "the first layer of colour". Great vid.
@thestateofplay2023 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for saying that mate!!
@anthonyugarte1072 16 күн бұрын
Thank you for your guidance, wisdom, and knowledge.
@thestateofplay2023 16 күн бұрын
Glad it helped
@virrcraft Ай бұрын
yay, new video! wow, this is so impressive to watch... and at the same time so difficult! my brain started racing 5 times while I was watching it all... and this despite the fact that I already knew a good 60 percent... but don’t get me wrong, it’s not about the presentation, it’s about the material! it’s quite complex (if you’re not in the know), but it’s presented just beautifully! color theory haunts me throughout my life, but I try to avoid it... apparently it has won after all. I need to sit down, figure it out and... hang circles with flowers around my work area
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
🤣 I tend to look at colour theory’s as A leads to B. So start with one colour and then work out the next. If I want my model to be say, green, I know I can use contrasting purple for shadows as well as dark green or blue because they sit side by side on the wheel.
@thehappyogryn Ай бұрын
Since i started using an airbrush for priming there's no turning back . The amount of paint wasted, and dust created buy a rattle can drove me on to try again and lose my fear to use an airbrush...no turnig back now. Great video and so many tips.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Yeah I mostly use rattlecans for terrain due to size and speed. But even then, airbrush is still preferable.
@LarguijoteF 10 күн бұрын
This was the best short video about the subject
@thestateofplay2023 8 күн бұрын
There’s longer videos?!
@billdefranza4927 9 күн бұрын
This video is excellent on so many levels. Thank you!
@thestateofplay2023 4 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@alexandrebelinge8996 Ай бұрын
I sat on my airbrush for years and started a few days ago and omg what was I waiting for ... So smooth, so easy love it !
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Such an amazing difference isn’t it.
@teslacoil4335 27 күн бұрын
sounds painful, did it leave any marks on ya rear?
@Primordian-P Ай бұрын
This video was relatable, and motivational. After using an airbrush, I'd say that batch painting miniatures without an airbrush feels like painting a wall with a toothbrush.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Yea, I once cut my lawn with scissors just to prove to my better half that we needed a decent lawnmower. It worked.
@anotherbrickinthegrey Ай бұрын
Aaaand FINALLY a miniature painting video that actually gets into colour theory properly!! Added super-bonus is someone who actually understands that shadows are not black! Loved every second of this video, +1 new subscriber :)
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Thank you. You know I never thought saying “shadows aren’t black” would be so controversial. I mean we all have eyes. We can literally look at them. 🤣🤣 but weirdly very few mini painters seem to reference the real world when painting. 🤷🏼♂️
@RonaldFulcrum 7 күн бұрын
This video was very well presented, and very informative. Thank you.
@thestateofplay2023 4 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@richardlynch77 Ай бұрын
Ah. Prime Day. I see what you did there. Great video as always!
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
I just realised that after I uploaded it as I got the email from Amazon! Not intentional but hey, if it gets a few more views…🤣🤣
@ThrehaneMiniatures Ай бұрын
Top notch observation! I can't believe I missed that!
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
I can’t believe I missed that! On Amazon now….hmm, some good deals. And some that are just flat out lies with the same price as before. 😳
@richardlynch77 Ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 I had 12 or so things in my basket, most with no change. But two clear acrylic display stands and Anycubic water washable resin both 20% discounted - I got those. Only so I have more minis to print and display coated in a black primer ;)
@billcedarheath387 Ай бұрын
This is one of those things that the fine scale modelers do well and that the miniature gaming world could learn from. I was a fine scale modeler long before I got into wargaming and I’ve always considered primer color before painting my little dudes because of that. Like the video mentioned, I too always just thought it was a lazy aspect of miniature painters wanting to get armies on the table as fast as they can. I’m now wondering if it is a lack of awareness of such techniques. I often see miniature painters “discover” something like it is some brand new technique that never existed. I’m looking at you SlapChop enjoyers. I’d encourage wargamers to explore fine scale modeler channels and even the model railroader channels. You can learn a lot from those folks and even learn techniques that they have been doing for decades. Techniques that should have been a thing long ago in this hobby.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
I, like you, started as a scale modeller back in the 80s so brought much of the concepts over. I think miniature painters got used to quick drying acrylics. There’s are a few things I didn’t continue as we scale modellers don’t tend to touch a model after it’s finished so anything that could rub off got dropped.
@brionl4741 Ай бұрын
I've always said that model railroading and mini wargaming are basically the same hobby. You push your little guys around the board and either go "Choo Choo" or "Pew Pew".
@StaticSilence1 18 сағат бұрын
I learned to take advantage of my primer very early in my hobby beginnings. I built all my armies color schemes around the primer. It was one of the best decisions I ever made.
@andreaarnold5613 Ай бұрын
First time I've seen your videos. I'll be back!. Very informative, educational and a nice hint of comedy.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Thank you. Looking forward to having you back! 👍🏼
@MrSmashySmash Ай бұрын
Undercoats are perfectly understandable for faster jobs But priming by brush really teaches you to be more financially responsible when you have to prime all of your stuff by hand
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Now you tell me. Where were you when I spent £300 on rattlecans! 🤣🤣 It’s mainly a time thing. With two young kids, a job and a YT channel- I don’t have time or patience to prime by hand anymore.
@MrSmashySmash Ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 oh that's entirely understandable, it's kinda funny going through them one by one and realizing that I have plenty of models to paint
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Don’t we all!!
@darthkek1953 Ай бұрын
The cost of rattle cans was the reason I bought an Airbrush (H&S Ultra v2) and a Timbertech-like compressor with tank. Bottles of primer are not expensive, certainly compared to the amount you will get from them vs can, and you can do beautiful gradients. I'm no artist never touched an AB before and I had smooth, perfect gradients within the first 30 minutes of opening my airbrush box. (But I had watched SOP review, and lots and lots of videos mainly Vince Venturella).
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
I think Vince is our hobby messiah. 🤣
@TheHunch8ack Ай бұрын
Christ, the KZfaq algorithm actually came through for once. Instead of throwing me ridiculous videos of Yanks shouting at each other it's everything I needed to know just before I unpack (after buying it four years ago . . . ahem) my airbrush! Cheers!
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Not a problem. For the last three weeks I’ve had YT serving me up Ben Shapiro videos. I’ve never once clicked on one.
@TheHunch8ack Ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 I discovered YT Shorts about 6 months ago (or 'Grandad TikTok' as my daughter was quick to name it) and it all started off lovely with loads of history, science and philosophy. Now I've got a stream of snide 'high value' men putting down rooms full of OnlyFans girls, 'cops gone bad' and Japanese girls in big boots all doing the same dance in the street. And when I click on 'want to try something different' it gives me Korean girls doing the same dance. I'm just waiting for Ben Shapiro to join in. Possibly while Charlie Kirk and Bill Maher provide a beat-box vocal track in the manner of that chap off Police Academy. Time to turn off and read a book, I feel. Thanks for this video anyway. Really handy. I'm a total wuss about airbrushes but I've got to just bite the bullet. I've ordered stuff on your advice: wish me luck . . .
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Now I could go a bunch of Korean dancing girl vids! Hmmm, where’s the short feed….😜
@TheHunch8ack Ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 Maybe the algorithm knows us better than we think. Bayes was right . . .
@Woodard126 Ай бұрын
This is an absolute masterclass not only in the topic at hand, but how all KZfaq videos should be done 👏🏻
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Really?! Thank you. I’m humbled.
@Woodard126 Ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 concise but detailed, excellent humour, top notch production and awesome minis... What's not to love? 😅
@AtilanoX1 24 күн бұрын
I appreciate the pep talk 🦾🦾🦾
@thestateofplay2023 24 күн бұрын
🤣 We all need one occasionally
@davidhills7986 Ай бұрын
Quick note for Vallejo airbrush primer. It works way better if you think it with the tamiya x20a thinner. Polyurethane reacts with water.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
This is where I totally slap my brow and why didn’t I think of that!! It’s not like I don’t have the damn ingredients!! Thank you. Now I can use it up.
@davidhills7986 Ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 it was one of those oh crap moments when I accidentally put the thinner in without thinking as I also use xf2 for white. That stuff is magic. I saw it didn't do anything funny instantly and thought I'll try spray that and wow what a difference. No clogs smooth coverage so now I can use my German panzer grey primer again.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
I tried it once with some citadel and got a weird thick soup. I’ll give it another go.
@davidhills7986 Ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 Vallejo primer it works perfectly. I've not tried other paints though.
@typicalneet 15 күн бұрын
I know this comments a bit old, but what ratio? 1:1? I’ll have to give it a shot, even if I haven’t had that many issues with Vallejo
@thecraftmasque Ай бұрын
when slapchop first started gaining traction i though i would lose my mid shouting at the screen every time "BlAcK is A tErRiBle cHoicE fOr A baSe!" ... glad i dont have to do that anymore.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
I think it’s based on the old masters who used it for oil painting. But what is usually ignored is that they painted completely over it and only used it for a tonal guide.
@thecraftmasque Ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 you're probably right. It was a common issue in illustration too. There's a ton of photoshop tutorials out there that start with black and white tonal sketches and almost all of them end up with a muddy-looking final product.
@naib_stilgar Ай бұрын
This is one of the best painting videos on YT right now, grats.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Thanks mate!
@Hawkeye83627 15 күн бұрын
Just found this as I'm gearing up to paint my Star Wars Legion minis. Subbed!
@thestateofplay2023 4 күн бұрын
Ooh! That sounds like a lovely project for different Priming!
@NegativeNezzy Ай бұрын
I lost it at "a little bit like the acolyte" lmfao. My loves are intersecting.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Gotta get those cultural references in somehow. 🤣🤣
@nozero1 Ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 I didn't think it was a good idea, it kind of loses anyone who does like the show.
@Fbs... Ай бұрын
C'mon, really??? If you're so fanboy and insecure not to watch the channel just because Will tells you the truth... you don't belong here (and I mean ON THE INTERNET)! They should grow up and open their eyes. Start to see when politics poison a TV show. Learn what makes a decent story and what makes a character interesting! In short, learn to judge a product objectively...🧐
@nozero1 Ай бұрын
@@Fbs... I didn't say that, I said that his point loses fans of the show. That's because if you like the show it doesn't any sense
@Fbs... Ай бұрын
@@nozero1 I'm saying that he shouldn't care! 'Cause if they DON'T UNDERSTAND MOVIES AND TV SHOWS and they're willing to make a fuss over every little thing they disagree with (even JOKES!), then it's better for Will to lose them! Many channels have been ruined by these people with no taste nor culture.
@annihilationtextofficialca8941 Ай бұрын
Awesome video. Thanks for the different perspective on priming. I am definitely one of those prime black always guys, lol. I have some new ideas now moving forward that might help me slay more gray a lot faster.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
I was the same. I used to get hella frustrated with how many coats I’d need over it though. Then when I was finished I was like “where’s the black gone!!”. 🤣🤣
@MarkCMG 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video! Excellent tips!
@thestateofplay2023 Күн бұрын
Cheers mate!
@truereaper4572 3 күн бұрын
Rattle can primer is just as good as airbrush primer if done correctly. If it looks splatter-y, then the temperature of your rattle can isn't optimal, giving you subpar results. It would be nice to see a video of you trying rattle can primer the right way, and clarifying that it's not worse than airbrushed primer.
@thestateofplay2023 2 күн бұрын
But it is worse, much worse because you don’t have precise control over how it goes on. You cannot control the pressure blast of a rattlecan. It will always flood the entire area and never subtly leave recesses untouched. A dual action airbrush allows for very precise air control on the trigger and thus paint control. You simply cannot do this with a rattlecan.
@ThorekIronbrow Ай бұрын
Top notch video. Lacquer toxicity, speckly rattlecan zenithals, black spray being the wrong choice for most colours are all things people need to hear. The one thing I'm dying for a good video on is primer durability. Consensus seems to be airbrush primer is far less durable than rattlecan and lacquers so the convenience doesn't feel like a good trade for gaming pieces. Are the molotow acrylics special in any way that makes them suitable as priming? The airbrush primers tend to be acrylic-polyurethane mixes (which assume makes them more hard-wearing) rather than just pure acrylic.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
You don’t need primer. Primer is a myth. I’ve got unprimed models from 38 years ago with no varnish that look the same today as they did when I was 10. Most modern acrylic is tough enough to just stay where you put it. Molotow are graffiti acrylics. Designed to work on walls outdoors in all weather.
@The1Flying Ай бұрын
Cracking video as always.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Cheers Scott!
@Prometheus_Williams Ай бұрын
Easily the most informative hobby channel ever created.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
I dunno. Bob Ross is pretty good. 🤣
@darthkek1953 Ай бұрын
Vince Venturella dies a little inside when you say that but SOP has fantastic colour theory. VV has elements of colour theory (and he goes through colours individually) but SOP is way head for integrated colour theory.
@S.A.S.H. 13 күн бұрын
"...die of old age." As a 66 year-old gamer with a massive...pile of gray, (and that's not a description of my hair, though it certainly could be)...where was I? Oh yeah. I take the comment personally. As always great info delivered with wonderful humor and just a dash of tongue-in-cheek. Thanks....
@thestateofplay2023 8 күн бұрын
Glad you get the humour mate. I get so many comments from people who genuinely think I’m serious!
@S.A.S.H. 8 күн бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 satire is not just a horny guy with goat hooves.
@mattyno964 Ай бұрын
I used to brush prime everything black. I also used to hate painting.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Do you like painting now? I assume you changed from black to something else?
@jameswilloughby4381 Ай бұрын
How this only got 14 likes! Come on guys this guys a top lad
@ThorekIronbrow Ай бұрын
It's a 26 minute video and it's only been up 25 minutes!
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Haha! Thanks, but give it time. I reckon people might be at work. I know I am. 😜
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Yeah and after taking 36 days to make this to spray over a 1000 models I didn’t expect any KZfaq love from the algorithm. 😜🤣
@mn01_ Ай бұрын
@@ThorekIronbrow 😂😂😂
@ElRammo Ай бұрын
I’m not sure why but typing in “state of play” I didn’t even get you in my top results. It’s possible your channel name doesn’t help KZfaq/googles string matching due to the terms being so common. That said, I do have confidence you will grow exponentially due to the sheer quality of your work.
@Glic2000 16 күн бұрын
Interesting video. Back when I started painting seriously; in 2002ish, white primer was considered the "right way" to do it and black was considered "wrong". Then in recent years, the discourse seemed to have shifted to favour black priming (at least, that's what the best painters seemed to be doing), followed by an incredibly slow process of tediously layering up to the final colours. Which has never appealed to me much, being a bit of a "speed painter" at heart. Anyway, it's nice to see videos now discussing ways to get good results, faster, since the way some of the "best" painters work is completely impractical for the majority of us.
@thestateofplay2023 16 күн бұрын
I agree. I started doing this in the mid 80s and the methods have chopped and changed over the years. Most of the best painters do it almost full-time so yeah, they can probably spend hours putting on a million layers. Some of us want to play a game. 🤣🤣
@zakphillips2287 18 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. Your intricately detailed explanations have helped me understand painting concepts I've struggled with for a while. Definitely earned my sub, looking forward to more videos like this!
@thestateofplay2023 4 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Meglin1461 Ай бұрын
Please don't use normal rattle can paint. It has WAY more texture than specialised rattle can primer. The pigment isn't nearly as fine. And when you're painting something so small, you don't want large pigments. Obviously there is a place in this hobby for normal rattle can paint. But tiny models aren't it
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
👍🏼
@giantninja9173 Ай бұрын
So any model larger than an old scale space marine? A $5 can is still preferable to a $20 can for priming tanks if the difference is only noticeable if held at eye level under beginner level paint jobs
@Meglin1461 Ай бұрын
@giantninja9173 anything with small details I wouldn't use a normal rattle can primer on. Clogs them up.
@JERRYR708 Ай бұрын
Used Army Painter white primer today for 1st time and never going back to regular primer.
@marcbowling6451 Ай бұрын
@Meglin1461 out of curiosity have you ever had this issue or are you just repeating internet echo chamber wisdom?
@Liopot68 Ай бұрын
and we say: "thank you, Marco Frisoni!"
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
We do indeed! Same art background as me I think. Using fine art techniques in mini painting.
@user-si3ct9yu6g 17 күн бұрын
I finally got my first air brush when I looked at a pile of used rattle cans and realized how much I was spending on rattle cans. I was shocked at how much I was spending on spray paint, when I couldn't even properly mix colours the way one can mix them with the air brush. I don't know why I was intimidated by the air brush and compressor.This video really is about working smarter rather than harder. It took me years to figure it out.
@thestateofplay2023 4 күн бұрын
It adds up and you don’t even realise!!
@Bakroth85 Ай бұрын
Another excellent introduction and advanced info video again. Thanks for the tips!
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
A pleasure as always!
@tr4ck_day 16 күн бұрын
Fantastic video. Your channel deserves to grow if you keep making content like this
@thestateofplay2023 4 күн бұрын
Thank you so much!
@Talking-Monkey 24 күн бұрын
The snarky wit one liners won my sub. Well played
@thestateofplay2023 23 күн бұрын
Phew! Some people don’t get it and I get ribbed in the comments. 🤣🤣
@mooseoperator7288 Ай бұрын
Love this video and your honesty. Whenever I hear "you can do this with a rattlecan/brush too!" my eyes roll back so hard my optic nerves sever. It will be nice when youtubers stop back peddling and just stand behind the tools they use. Have some backbone and don't be afraid to piss off the small minority of stubborn people that refuse to get an airbrush.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
🤣🤣I couldn’t have said it better myself.
@mortendahl4824 25 күн бұрын
Amazing! You made this all sensible, so many content creators have failed where you succeeded. So glad I found this. Now, I paint on with renewed vigor :)
@thestateofplay2023 24 күн бұрын
Brilliant news! So glad it didn’t confuse people!
@korvusfilms1 20 күн бұрын
As someone just getting into the mini painting hobby, and seeing scores of videos, this is one of the most fantastic tutorials that I've ever seen, a perfect mix of color theory and implementation practices, plus even humor to keep it entertaining. Thank you for making this! Subbed and will check out your other videos.
@thestateofplay2023 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for saying mate!
@ecarlate 15 күн бұрын
i just discovered your channel, and thank you for all the advice, going to save me time for my pile of shame.... 40 years of collectionning and no time to paint, i think i have enough until the end of my life lol
@thestateofplay2023 4 күн бұрын
You and me both matey!! 👍🏼 I’m determined to get through all of it just so my kids can trash it all when I’m gone. 🤣🤣🤣
@ecarlate 4 күн бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 yeah i'm trying to do the same, finished my new work/pain table to start working. lucky me (or not lol), my son is playing too lmao
@Mekhami 15 күн бұрын
I have an idea for you to try. Do a colored zenithal using oil paints. Prime in white. Get some oils out, thin them down a bit (not to wash consistency). Apply different colors to different parts of the model, in the same composition as you would with an airbrush. Use makeup sponges to remove most of the paint, and q-tips with _very very little_ mineral spirits to remove a bit more from the brightest parts. Let it cure for 24 hours, and you've got a brilliantly, smoothly underpainted model with a lot of control, and vibrant colors where you want them. I think it has merit as an underpainting step for army painting.
@thestateofplay2023 4 күн бұрын
I was about to disagree but….this is actually a very very solid idea.
@oleww50 3 күн бұрын
Great video! So much info 👌❤️
@thestateofplay2023 Күн бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@michalsqi Ай бұрын
Hello! I've just found your channel and it is an instant autosub! I've been into the hobby for last 5 years, and never ever YT showed me your content. Now I need to catch up :) Love the way you provide information. Thank you, and ... happy hobbying!
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Thank you Michael. Nice to know I have an audience and am not just shouting into the wind. 🤣🤣🤣
@grumhelden Ай бұрын
You get my sub for telling the truth about The Acolyte, you get my like and continued viewership for the NEXT EFFING LEVEL content. Well done, this was amazing.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Thank you…. for both reasons. 😜👍🏼
@mralloc23 Ай бұрын
Amazingly informative video! Your breakdown on color theory was great. I first started to learn about color theory more recently from Marco Frisoni's YT channel. Using your primer as a way to accentuate and play with your color tones will not only save time, but drastically increase the quality of your paint job. Creating depth and smoothness, but saving you lots of effort. Also, anyone considering buying an airbrush, remember, it doesnt have to be an expensive one. There are plenty of airbrush + compressor bundles that are under $150. Especially for priming, you dont need a pinpoint airbrush. It's not even 100% necessary for accomplishing precision work, though it helps.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Thanks for that! I think Marco and I come from the same fine art background. Although he is a much better painter and appears to do painting full time. And you’re airbrush advice is spot on. 👍🏼🎯
@dodgersfnshepard8673 7 күн бұрын
Just my 2 cents added, 2 in 1 automotive primer. 1st time using it last night, may never go back to GW. Filled all gaps and gave a great texture
@thestateofplay2023 4 күн бұрын
You gotta be careful with 2in1 as it can quickly cover over all the details by accident.
@Ilikeridin 6 күн бұрын
Amazing video. I learnt so much and enjoyed watching as a whole. So much I don’t know about colour theory. New to the channel alsi, subscribed.
@thestateofplay2023 4 күн бұрын
Glad to have you here thanks!
@geoffscammell145 Ай бұрын
Like so many things I found your video at the perfect time. For the last 6 months I have been building kits, and buying a few different primers, waiting for it to get warmer and me to finish my indoor spray booth. Not only did I get the most in-depth lesson on priming. Yet there was so much more about beauty of mixing colours right from the very beginning, before even essentially buying any paint. The timing could of not been more perfect, and presented in such a beautiful and insightful way. Thank you so much
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the compliment mate, I’m so glad it’ll help you out
@JerryH171 Ай бұрын
As an intermediate hobbyist I still learn a lot from every one of your videos! Your combination of narration, graphics and real life footage is really fun to watch :)
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@ivoalexander4201 Ай бұрын
Your asides totally cracked me up! Great point about greyscale slap-chop. I've been discovering the same whilst slpachopping boardgame minis (ie. 'test models'). Subscribed!
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Greyscale slapchop has its place but it’s not as many places as some would believe. 😜👍🏼
@SLDL86 Ай бұрын
New to the hobby and this video has been super helpful!!
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
You’re very welcome
@Psykroids 15 күн бұрын
I undercoat. Yes it's a twice over base coat, then the actual base coat. Tedious but much cheaper more room to store stuff and it's just simple.
@MTGreborn 21 күн бұрын
A really useful video, thank you mate!
@thestateofplay2023 20 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@MrSquidshark Ай бұрын
This is a 10/10 video that I'll be coming back to again and again I'm sure.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Thank you. I guess I’ll see you again! 😜
@GingerGiant247 Ай бұрын
State of Play is a new favorite hobby channel now. I love the color theory, and I hadn't considered the orientation of the color wheel for 'movement' of color. This is awesome.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Yeah it’s weird that a simple lock of a colour wheel in place can change colour progression. I “lock” yellow at the top if zenithaling up to white. But often lock a shadow at the bottom. Or a different colour at the top depending on what I’m going for.
@benrichard7938 Ай бұрын
Ok this is amazing. I’ve been painting for 30 years and doing it semi competitively for like 20 and I STILL learned so much. I’ve waisted so much time needlessly glazing… great job man!
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the compliment mate. From a veteran hobbyist too!
@danielhall5554 Ай бұрын
I will have to watch this a few more times. This is excellent work. I'm glad to see people returning to color theory and not just slopping on the paint. I am guilty of running straight to the white over black zenithal and getting very dissappointed.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Yeah I wondered what happened n KZfaq. Just seems to be people painting the latest GW boxes thesedays. Like every single creator.
@pipwilson777 Ай бұрын
Brilliant writing and presentation. Perfection.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Thank you !
@jonathankilby6636 25 күн бұрын
Great video. I adore montana sprays, so many colours available and I've done a dirty zenithal using them countless times
@thestateofplay2023 24 күн бұрын
Same here!
@lordunborn Ай бұрын
Only person I still support on Patreon. Your videos are so down to earth and intelligent. The Humor is "Chef's Kiss". Thanks for this information.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Thank mate. Tbh without that support I’m not sure if still be here. Lots and lots of work for little return. 😳🤣
@Grithertime 29 күн бұрын
Absolutely awesome video!
@thestateofplay2023 28 күн бұрын
Cheers!
@edwardnagel7598 19 күн бұрын
Dude NICE video. I painted miniatures years ago for fun (not gaming) and I might just wanna get back...
@thestateofplay2023 4 күн бұрын
It’s a slippery, expensive slope. Whatever you choose, it’s not my fault. 🤣🤣🤣
@typicalneet 15 күн бұрын
I know I should start priming my models with a shadow color, but god damn is priming black then putting a base coat with an airbrush is so easy. Great video! I’ll definitely have to use some of these techniques
@thestateofplay2023 4 күн бұрын
Too easy one would say. 😜
@mmarchani Ай бұрын
Worth it for the colored shadows alone! AMAZING work, man!!
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Dakarum481 Ай бұрын
Subscribed. Love the way you explain things and your humor. Definitely kept me engaged and you seem like a cool dude. Keep up the great work.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
🤣🤣Thanks! Next time I have a job interview you can be my reference! 😜
@malcolmfitzgerald6801 14 күн бұрын
When I paint storm/clone trooper for SW legion i prime white bathe them in black wash then drybrush white and it looked so good paired with my free hand markings it's what got me started as a commission painter.
@thestateofplay2023 4 күн бұрын
Good plan. I may have primed mid grey, zenithalled white, oil washed a paynes grey then added the black.
@eskhaphey2873 Ай бұрын
Hi there, you forgot to memtiom that with rattlecans the darker the pigment the thinner the paint therefore gives a thinner coating, and in your shots of using a rattlecan there was no stopping to let any layer dry. Black rattlecan is the best option outside of using an airbrush since it gives a smooth uniform coverage and can easily undercoat 200 models for £10, and at around 40 models in 30 minutes doesnt take long at all. All about technique :D
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Yes I’m afraid I disagree with a lot there. The pigment size in rattlecans is all the same. The don’t grind darker pigment finer 🤣 it appears like thinner layers because it covers quicker. But you could stop at the same point with any colour. So the volume of paint in the can will coat the same number of models whether black or white. 👍🏼 As for waiting for a layer to dry, I was spraying in 30 degrees heat. It was almost drying in the air that day. As you can see by the closeup models in the video - all were fine. 👍🏼
@sirpoupadou Күн бұрын
Very informative thanks!
@thestateofplay2023 Күн бұрын
Cheers!
@ReclaimerMkII Ай бұрын
This is great advice. I can see immense logic in this strategy.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Thanks mate!
@harry6471 Ай бұрын
This is a fantastic video ! 👏🏻
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Well thank my dear Sir.
@DrNitroGecko Ай бұрын
Yes, colourful priming has helped me a lot
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Awesome!
@RedHeadHurricane Ай бұрын
Great video! Love the applied colour theory - too many people are scared of dealing with this. Off to watch some of your other videos (while investigating Molotow paints, didn't realise they were British!) Subbed.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Molotow are German I believe with headquarters in the Black Forest. And they own their own train car for graffiti.
@RedHeadHurricane Ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 ah ok. Makes sense with the name. On the uk website they were listed as Bristol.
@kevinkabal6598 Ай бұрын
Excellent video! And still the best extro in the business! Loved your ink mixing video as well! Cheers Will!
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Hey Kevin. It is. Isn’t it. 🤣🤣
@TapCat Ай бұрын
Thank you for yet another video with excellent advice. I just recently dipped my toe in the water of color primer. I needed to paint 16 identical army troops and found a good camo green that both primed and served as the base coat for a large chunk of the minis. Also bought a dark blue primer to get a start on a similar lot of mobsters wearing dark suits. It was extremely helpful but this vfdeo opens up many more possibilities by adding a 2nd color to the mix. I'll definitely have to give that some thought even if my grasp of color theory isn't nearly as developed as yours.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Good option here is to pick up a lighter version of the camo green. 👍🏼
@pjsines4705 Ай бұрын
I'm more of a chiaroscuro guy my self. Great video!
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
I speak Italian so I can’t disagree.
@doctorpc4x4 Ай бұрын
From primer to colour theory and contrasts. I don't paint these. I paint scale model trucks, BUT I sure as learnt one heck of a lot from this. You are a clever man
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
That’s where I started. Not trucks but spaceships. Trucks without wheels. 🤣🤣
@halmartin7417 Ай бұрын
The Acolyte comment was perfect.... Subbed on that alone.
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
🤣 I’m not one to sit on the fence.
@kitoushi66 22 күн бұрын
Excellent video. Thanks.
@thestateofplay2023 22 күн бұрын
Thanks
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