I did the same. I had a Grundig Yatch Boy and me and my did used to listen in to our local police.

Grundig were a godsend to young radio snoopers

I used to get GMP’s CK traffic on a normal radio on 101.00mhz with the pips between transmissions I remember. I can still here the deep calm voice of the operator.

@@jamiemoo2000 oh yes that was great to hear about anuty Doris and her piles I loved it

@@doublewhopper67 Our 'life and death' situations in the fire service aren't just "something might fall on my head". Throwing a helmet (which is high visibility and likely to get someone's attention as it drops down) could be an indicator that two people in breathing apparatus are trapped and running out of air - a far more pressing concern than protecting one's head

@@nathansvlog You weren't in the UK fire service then! We had systems in place to make sure no one EVER had to throw their helmet out of a window to get some attention! Or that they maybe trapped and running out of air! Had you never heard of the hand held radio? They've been around for years! That's the most ridiculous, stupid action I've ever heard of. I did the job for 32 years and NEVER was that suggested s a means of communication on the fireground. Well done to you for surviving it!

@@stetomlinson3146 You must have worked in the exact same place as him then to make this statement?

@@TeddyBen Than whom?

Yeah, I mean maybe. Its illegal under a recent UK law (forget its exact name, but passed in 2020) to even mention what you are mentioning. Hence I'm not mentioning it, but know what you mean 🙂

I came here to mention, did the UK actually ever stop ALL it's use of "Legacy" technology? 🤐 Well at least if nobody is allowed to talk about it then it must be secure and and not trivial to intercept.

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And that's why all the radio networks went encrypted because guys like you turning up to emergency jobs idiots

Roder that.... 😂

Yes indeed around 100 Mhz I think but using AM mode

@Ringway Manchester Lewis you should make a video on that 100MHz allocation, how it came to be and how it was still a thing in the 1980s.

I’ll have a look

​@@RingwayManchesterIs it legal to listen to the fire service on a Reciever in the UK.

Here in derby it’s all dmr !

​@@winstonchurchill6506probably using the dmr more simple get a dnr hand held or a dmr capable scanner load in all the channels dmr and analogue, we had a big fire here recently and 5 chs used some dmr and some the analogue

@wisteela that’s interesting to hear. I’m Mansfield based never knew this, I thought they had all moved over. Might have to get the radio back out and start searching. Thanks

@@samsalloway7412 it's dmr and analogue it's a national set up every brigade has same set up, sone use dmr exclusively some analogue and dmr as needed but for interops it's a standard set up so every one can say go to ch8 or ch14 and be able to communicate

In the 60's it would be dangerous to listen and not keep a low profile... In Portugal I listened to everything and also used forbiden CB radios. I had the Army and Political Police after me, but they never were able to get me....😂😂😂😂 (they were fierce at the time...) Fixed Police comms were HF AM/CW (80m, 120m, 60m, etc. later USB), mobile ones were 80m AM with kind of an Hustler antenna (big one with coil in the midle...). After that they went for nation wide instalation of CB radios in military frequencies (yes, frequencies nearby CB were military in most Countries in the world, including USA). The frequency was 27.265 MHz AM, using PONY CB-71 for base stations (5/8 antenna), and mobiles (ASP CB antenna similar to those low band ones in USA). Range was enough for local small towns. Portable units were not that good performance as needed: PONY CB-36 (2 to 3W, 12V) with original telescopic antenna, and TOKAY TC-512 (0,3W, 9V) with a short laminar mil type antenna (low range because it should have a charging coil at the base). Of course that major cities like Lisbon had UHF Motorola and GE radios with retransmiters all over the place (later Simulcast UHF) Some military traditional towns were directly supported by the Army that got them 70 MHz band, mil style, side transportable units with a Base at the Headquarters. National Guard type permanent militarized Police, was also 80m AM, and mid-band VHF FM (76/86 MHz). They've also used some 5W portable CB radios for comunications between the radar car and the place where they would stop the speeders.... Also some fixed CB radios for special purposes (on out of the CB frequencies). Later they complemented with 146-150 MHz FM network with retransmiters and simplex all over the Country. Firemen: Voluntary units (without money) used CB channel 9 AM (regular 23 or 40 channel USA standard radios), both Base and mobile (also some portable CB radios like GE , Handic, etc). Municipal units had VHF low band (33/40 MHz FM) . Also they monitored CB emergency channel 9 AM for citizens asking for help and also for coordination with voluntary firemen stations. Later they evolved for a 168 MHz VHF FM with remote simplex base stations with some simplex tactical channels and later even duplex retransmiters. Even the Military used CB style radios on AM (they were much better than the old BC, PRC, etc mil radios) Main use was artilery fire correction. Mil Scouts used litle green zamac boxes ONKYO mono channel CB portable radios with laminar mil style antenna, on frequencies above 23 channel CB (at the time in the 60's/70's) like 27.345 or 27.365 MHz and similar (mil controled frequencies at the time). Those litle 9V radios (6 X 1.5V AA bateries) were used in the Colonial 60's decade War in Africa (THC-736 and 756, and latter better banana type portables wouldn't cope, and those litle ones would do the job...😅) Portuguese Red Cross Fixed comms used YAESU FT-77 and Marconi radios on UIT assigned HF frequencies (like 3700, 6998.5, etc. MHz USB 100W, etc) Base and mobiles were (and are) VHF low band 33/40 MHz and CB emergency channel 9 AM for taking calls from citizens and coordinating with local voluntary firemen. Also tactical mil radios for catastrophe field comms. Also TOKAY TC-512 CB portable radios (with laminar mil style antennas) for local incident tac comms (27.475 MHz and 27.065 MHz AM) Now, all those services use TETRA TEA2 (380/390 MHz ) wich can be monitored by 3 letter Agencies we know...😂😂😂 Still in use (monitorable): Public Security Police using pmr446 radios (😂😂😂) to avoid the horrible perfomance of TETRA DMO) National Guard (militarized Police): VHF NFM simplex to avoid horrible perfomance of TETRA that fails all the time and with big TETRA coverage failures. Firemen: VHF NFM 152-153 MHz simplex tac channels (FireGround style). 148-174 MHz wide area tac comms via retransmiters (nationwide coverage and overlap). Civil Defense: Same as Firemen (frequencies side by side) Red Cross: Low Band VHF (33/40 MHz) semi-duplex and simplex (also some remote base stations via UHF link). All the network is linked nationwide via UHF, and can work with regional or nationwide comms at the same time. In practice, most are GSM/UMTS/LTE for all services (including the Military.... 😂😂) If the gsm/umts/lte would go down, the comms would colapse because the TETRA sistem wouldnt cope and the military use cellphones all the time (shame on you if you consider yourself a military man and carry a cellphone with you...)

what i like about the US Emergency services they broadcast live transmissions on the internet via broadcastify..

Only if it's not encrypted and only if there is someone to provide the stream @@AndrewSvonja

I wonder what all the secrecy is for. For a century police and fire service worked just fine in the clear.

that's true but lets be honest, the cops never wanted their radio traffic in the clear. @@attribute-4677

@RCAvhstape in Louisiana the State Sheriff's Association pressured the Fire Services into P25 under the guise of "interagency operability"... horse manure. The Sheriff's figured out that on appx half of all calls the FD was dispatched and by listening to their radio traffic one could get a very good idea of what was going on... Many people here have commented that they listen to Broadcastify. To be honest that's what I do my serious listening with.

Yes using AM mode

I remember it well too with its beeps between talking.

Essex along with most use both dmr and analogue there's a uk wide set up where all ch1to 8 are dmr, 9 up are analogues also ch1 colour code 1 ch2 colour code 2 and so on, same in Essex, same in Hertfordshire, same everywhere, 457 mhs plus 450.1 and 464.1 and the dual chs in at 462

So just get a dmr set scanner like a uniden ubc3600 or sds100 sds200 or similar whistler scanners and load up tag with ch numbers,and dmr colour codes and then again same freqs analogue then u can switch between any dmr or analogue use or scan of course

So it is possible to listen in to the dutch portofoons the firefighters use?

@@erwin3113 Well, "it depends", as always. Regions use DMR or TETRA DMO. The former can be encrypted, while the latter is definitely encrypted. I'm not sure whether they encrypt the DMR radios, but I would assume they do as a matter of routine. So, in practice, no.

​​@@erwin3113I don't think any of the objectportofoons anywhere in the country use encryption. Most regions use analog, some use DMR or TETRA DMO, neither of which employs encryption. Decoding DMR or DMO obviously requires a radio, a digital scanner (very few support DMO/TETRA), or an SDR + software. The frequencies are pretty easy to find and there's a small group of hobbyists that monitor these comms.

It's worth just checking random frequencies. You never know when they might use some other type of radio or band.

I listened during a recent trip and got nothing unfortunately. Maybe next time

Some US states are not allowed to use encryption on their blue light radio communications because the citizens demand transparency

Yep the days of monitoring the EMS in the UK has long gone. Since 2001 in my area. Analogue is dead & buried.

When I drove buses in Birmingham, we used MPT1327 on 200-206 MHz or thereabouts. Not lived there for a while though so don't know if they're still using it or not.

wow, so sorry. i would be the same. i am.

Yes, sadly and maybe surprising police often ignore common sense. Who in their right mind would break into a building, set it on fire "to cover his tracks" for so go on to call 999 about it?! Maybe the police think this would be a good idea...

Thanks for this. I am an Ex RNLI crew member, who are controlled by the HM Coastguard working channel 0 (Zero).This channel is strictly controlled and, in order to transmit on zero you need to be either an RNLI lifeboat or a Coastguard Auxiliary, and the radio needed can't be bought without an official order from HMCG. I suspect that the use of the normal VHF maritime network is due to the fact that there are a huge number of Auxiliary Coastguards st sea at any one time. most of the commercial fishermen I knew were auxiliary, and to go dmr or encrypted would place heavy financial burden on these essential lifesavers Although it is a while since I served, the system worked well with no range problems, certainly for the inshore fleet where I was. We could hear the French rescue services in Normandy on VHF, some 60 odd miles without problems from the boathouse station.

Fit like Davie, fellow NE Scotsman. 👍🏼

I'm in Glasgow and get Belfast Coastguard on the repeaters and even Belfast VTS on Marine frequencies. Coastguard Mobiles also heard locally as I live on the River Clyde.

@@EzeePosseTV Hey, fit like from Aberdeen 🤪 (Don't be fooled, I'm an ex-pat Londoner, but I've been here long enough to pick up a few essentials)😋

@@TestGearJunkie. Aahh fit like fellow Aberdonian, lol. It's all good, born in New-Market Suffolk and raised here in the Deen. Hehe 👍🏼

😂😂😂 explore the possibility my friend.... There is a decryption for every encryption

You must be in southern Ontario... Up here in northern Ontario, the only encrypted comes I've ever heard were OPP surveillance coms, the city police and city services.... Mostly everything else is in the clear around here..

My county aka province police in North Carolina is encrypted. I do get joy listening to fire and EMS and i listen to my hometown police and fire in Massachusetts as the director is anti encryption

Some of the SdQ is in analog and I was listening to them from Plattsburgh last year.

I’m still jealous!

But the dmr is still active so that's easy to listen to the fire ground and can be busy even when shopping in tesco, or small or large incidents or airshows, big events with fire there

Lots of US Police radios are on Broadcastify too Mike.. I like listening in on my Hamshack Hotline Phone ;)

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Are you sure it's actually encrypted though? Our city went to P25, but RadioReference states it's not encrypted.

Can still monitor Rockhampton, Cairns Police though on some of their analogue Talk groups.

@@jamiemoo2000 cheers mate, good to know that analogue is still used.

I just realised how ludicrous this sounds. “If only” hahaaaa… 😂😂😂😂 If only I could get the key 😂😂😂😂😂

Was this in Cheshire by any chance?

@RingwayManchester it was Lanark, the field was in the Clyde Valley near Crossford. It was around 1994 I think.

What happened if someone was going to run an event there so people turned up and so basically all turn up with only one listen to radio

It was a trap to catch earwiggers.

@robertthomson9808 yes, the press report called it a sting operation.

Why

@@RingwayManchester Because technology and the overall jumpiness of the British government. They detain you for things like taking a picture outside of a police station citing the s43 Terrorism Act 2002

Because people like you are posting things like this for every Tom dick and Harry. Just ruins it for everyone else…

If you bothered to do your own research, you’d know that numerous fire services have published a document with all frequencies and a downloadable codeplug for other services which is available on google for all to see. So read up before posting uneducated drivel

It will never happen as the TEA2 encryption algorithm used by the UK EMS is very secure with all of its authentication protocols in place.

VHF AM around 145-155MHz and UHF 450-466MHz in the days of analogue.

It’s basically a file uploaded to dmr radios with the channels in

encrypted is not possible by anyone, AES 256 is inviolable, listening to open digital is easy

it was a fail thats why! Customers of at least 2 networks never received the messages! including me!