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The Only Way is Up | Porsche 911 996 Depreciation & Buying guide

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@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 4 жыл бұрын
*Which car would you like to see analysed next?*
@Dan-wz9tr
@Dan-wz9tr 4 жыл бұрын
Any BMW M Power Cars especially the E46 M3....really enjoy the way the data is explained......get content every time.... before buying a car check if the review for your model is on this channel it's a good starting point !
@andrewjohnson3940
@andrewjohnson3940 4 жыл бұрын
Ferrari 599 and F12? 599 is fantastic value, F12 is the next generation, itd be interesting to see how they compare to eachother from the switch between the F1 auto and double clutch transmissions.
@signintochat450
@signintochat450 4 жыл бұрын
BMW Z4M E86
@piotergudrinovicproduction11
@piotergudrinovicproduction11 4 жыл бұрын
Acura nsx (old version)
@deanwashere7619
@deanwashere7619 4 жыл бұрын
Cayman
@detonator2112
@detonator2112 2 жыл бұрын
No matter how much the car media wants to hype the new ones, the only Porsches that will really appreciate in the long run are the air cooled classics (impact bumpers, 964 and 993). It's just the way it is. Those are the only cars that are iconic. New 911's are mass produced modern cars that represent completely different era. Only the special models like Turbos and GT's will have collectible value. When this money printing craze is over, only the classics will remain desirable.
@sambone8213
@sambone8213 4 жыл бұрын
When I got in the Porsche game in the early 2000's, the SC was still frowned upon and god forbid you even mentioned the mid-years. Then it was the 964, which has skyrocketed. Point is, most Porsche models have been "under fire" at some point but ALL have enjoyed significant appreciation with due time. The 996 will be no different. Sadly even the days of cheap 944's are behind us. Nice examples double or tripled in value overnight. As history shows, sometimes the models most disliked by the Porsche loyalists are often the best.
@henryatkinson1479
@henryatkinson1479 3 жыл бұрын
This video aged like fine wine. 996 values are nearing double what they were a year ago.
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 3 жыл бұрын
True, they are up by 40%. Here is the latest market update video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i6mfapNnzNXIqYE.html
@JasonRauschelbach
@JasonRauschelbach Жыл бұрын
Great market update video, this is a unique angle versus other 911 996 videos. Looking forward to that update :)
@zozokite
@zozokite 4 жыл бұрын
I think most people want to see video analysis of modern classics that have already bottomed out such as the 997s GT3 RS, an update on the 1m, E46 CSL, 993 Turbo, etc...
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 4 жыл бұрын
I think those would be indeed very interesting videos. They, however, require at least two different market snapshot.s. It takes a moment to collect these :)
@cliftonbrown911
@cliftonbrown911 4 жыл бұрын
Great information. Another factor to consider is color for exterior and interior. I agree color is a personal taste factor but some colors are attractive to a much larger portion of the buying market and some colors a very small potion. I guess we should also look into the difference between a cabriolet and a coupe. I've had mine for over 10 years now and only paid $14k. Daily driver and no major repairs.
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 4 жыл бұрын
True. Brighter colors are more rare. It is however difficult to prove statistically that they are more expensive because of the colour due to the limited data points. Between the coupe and the cabriolet I didnt find a significant price difference.
@cliftonbrown911
@cliftonbrown911 4 жыл бұрын
Used car dealers will tell you that black, seal grey, silver, red and white are the most in demand, in that order. Not a personal opinion, just economics. Thanks for your reply.
@ericl452
@ericl452 4 жыл бұрын
One other difference is coupe versus convertible. I bought a very early build 1999 C2 manual coupe, built in March 1998. When I searched, there were a lot more convertibles than coupes available. The manual coupes were the most expensive with the automatic convertibles being the least expensive. Most buyers like the upgrades in the 996.2, but the early 1999s have a little bit of a cult following. The early 99s (built in 1998) had a better build quality and they came with the more robust dual row IMS bearing in the engine. My car has 92k miles on the original bearing. I love it. It's been a very reliable car and a lot of fun.
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 4 жыл бұрын
When controlled for other variables such as mileage, model year, and transmission, i found that there was no difference between the coupes and the cabriolets. That's why it is not included in the video. Fully agree, the 996.1 cult is real :)
@pettersteen7206
@pettersteen7206 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Apart from the C4S and Turbo. A manual 1998-1999 Carrera 2 is the way to go.
@ghostriderpa31
@ghostriderpa31 Жыл бұрын
2023- Just paid £20k for a 55k mile, black, manual, mint 996.2 with full history. IMS not done though so I want to get that done for a piece of mind 🙏
@lomjams
@lomjams 3 жыл бұрын
Surly the 996 bottomed out years ago? Around 2016 I guess. You could buy a manual coupe with 60 000 km for around 17k€. The same car with the same milage and condition are now advertised for around 35k€. This is based on a Benelux, Germany location. That's why I don't understand your video, as you still seem to believe the prices may not of bottomed out yet. Am I missing something, or have you taken the data from the car market in the US? Thanks Josh
@windowseat7334
@windowseat7334 4 жыл бұрын
In the UK, the 996's bottomed out around 2014 / 2015. They have claimed around 25% in the last 5 years
@Robman-HfoodO
@Robman-HfoodO 4 жыл бұрын
Great information as always, thank you, we will have to see in 6 months were they stand
@Iamtherealfuzzmeist
@Iamtherealfuzzmeist 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic analysis and videos. Can you keep going down market and do the 993 market values? Would love to see how the last of the air cooled 911s are doing. I still think 993s are perhaps the most beautiful And reliable Porsches ever made. Thanks!
@udoreisinger5701
@udoreisinger5701 3 жыл бұрын
Love all of your videos,. I’m too emotional about these cars, so it’s nice to see someone take a rational look at these car. You do such a great job! Would you be interested in going even older, and looking at the 964 market?
@jonatanhedberg7377
@jonatanhedberg7377 4 жыл бұрын
Really would like to see the 996 Turbo in more detail. Very good video! Keep it up!
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The turbo will be analysed in a few weeks.
@GarthLovesTRAVEL
@GarthLovesTRAVEL 4 жыл бұрын
996 prices are going up a bit more rapid every year. I have owned my C4S now for about a year and i can sell the car for more than I paid but I listed lower. When I was looking there were 996 4S selling from $18,000-$26,999 at the top end and that was average. of course there were a few low mileage models that broke 30 even punching 40. Fast forward one year later and the bottom price right now on cargurus nationwide for a 4S is around $25,000.
@Sazuza2
@Sazuza2 3 жыл бұрын
It is about time for the update video on this one!
@midknight
@midknight 4 жыл бұрын
Sold my 996 c2. Regret it to this day
@Oarabile
@Oarabile 4 жыл бұрын
Would Love To See A Video About The Honda S2000 Next👌
@stuartx7362
@stuartx7362 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video at the end you said you were gonna re visit the 996 in about 6 months... any sign .. any chance you can do uk depreciation stats as well ?
@sgttombailes3380
@sgttombailes3380 3 жыл бұрын
Loving my '99 996 w/ 5k on a refurbished engine. Ceramic IMS and everything you would replace while engine out! Body has 50k . I'm good til 100 k and beyond!
@_Karma__
@_Karma__ 4 жыл бұрын
Good video. Can't go wrong with 996 turbo
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 4 жыл бұрын
More about that soon
@oliq1318
@oliq1318 4 жыл бұрын
agreed bought one last year and couldnt be happier
@dicklongmire6836
@dicklongmire6836 4 жыл бұрын
Don't do what I did though. Four years ago I originally wanted an air cooled 911 but prices drove me to a 1999 996 manual C2 with 102k miles. I got a good deal at $11k but regret not going for a 70-80's air cooled that I wanted because I still crave one.
@Lamborghini_huracan610
@Lamborghini_huracan610 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Please analyze SLS AMG coupe
@PurepestmanagementCoUk
@PurepestmanagementCoUk 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always. Having recently bought one in the UK I think that manuals don’t seem to be very popular as I think we’re all sick of them over here. Manuals seem to not sell very well even one is in good condition. Obviously circumstantial but something that I noticed.
@stuartcunningham8672
@stuartcunningham8672 3 жыл бұрын
Very very interesting and helpful. Thank you!
@ayowser01
@ayowser01 4 жыл бұрын
Please do the Honda s2000. I'd like to know if the market has reached the bottom of depreciation.
@jennifer.juniper4845
@jennifer.juniper4845 4 жыл бұрын
It’s the price the cars sell for that matters, rather than price advertised. Only time will tell if the 996 value ever rises. I own one but for its own sake not to study market fluctuations.
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 4 жыл бұрын
The actual selling prices are, to my knowledge, not freely available. Therefore, I use the advertised prices as a proxy. You could deduct a certain percentage of the prices and the market would shift down along the y-axis.
@jennifer.juniper4845
@jennifer.juniper4845 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. You could also look at time that car has been advertised and if price has been lowered. If it’s been advertised for a number of weeks obviously it doesn’t reflect market value. Advertised price seldom resembles sale price in my experience. I paid about 10% less than advertised price for my C4 996 , dealer friend would have offered 25% less so advertised prices are very unreliable. Good luck
@whygodrums10
@whygodrums10 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if 986 prices will also start to go up too
@allenskillicorn1061
@allenskillicorn1061 4 жыл бұрын
I’m curious about the 996 turbo and 996 Gt3 market.
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 4 жыл бұрын
The 996 turbo video is coming in a few weeks.
@stevendallimore5565
@stevendallimore5565 3 жыл бұрын
There also appears to be a price difference between Coupe and Convertible models. Do you have stats for that split?
@Wantobe123
@Wantobe123 4 жыл бұрын
Very good info. If possible. I’d like to see one more variable. Coupe, convertible and very rare Targas. My guess you see the Targas having the highest spike due to being rare and then the coupes. From what I see, at the time, convertibles are about 75 percent of the sales market and then coupes and targa.
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 4 жыл бұрын
I checked the difference between the coupes and the carbiolets but didn't find a significance difference when accounting for all the other variables. That's why i didn't mention it in the video.
@Wantobe123
@Wantobe123 4 жыл бұрын
I’m very surprised. On NA Porsche (Older cars) . The coupes normally hold there value better than a Cabs. Great video and thanks for the quick reply.
@s.m.2868
@s.m.2868 4 жыл бұрын
Please make a video on the Porsche 968!
@cayman9873
@cayman9873 4 жыл бұрын
Want to compare if buying a 25 k cayman base manual vs a 996 25 k base manual .. what is a better deal ?
@sinistercharger
@sinistercharger 4 жыл бұрын
These haven't gone up price wise in years people opt for other models and seem to skip over the 996.I had my Turbo advertised for months and months with very little interest
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 4 жыл бұрын
The Turbo will feature in a few weeks.
@berryswimschool7476
@berryswimschool7476 4 жыл бұрын
How about a video on Nissan 350z since the 400z is on its way..
@JimSlaughterOC
@JimSlaughterOC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, very informative video!
@SundaeBestt
@SundaeBestt 4 жыл бұрын
Very educating video :) Thank you!
@iandeaville652
@iandeaville652 4 жыл бұрын
You should put more adverts in mate
@donz2323
@donz2323 4 жыл бұрын
great video, keep it up!
@joaocosta7623
@joaocosta7623 4 жыл бұрын
Bought my 2003 996.2 C2 coupé 6 speed manual in feb 2017 for 30k and sold it in nov 2019 for 37k.
@thomasgarbaty7374
@thomasgarbaty7374 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats, Why are the prices skyrocketing? Immigration? Inflation?
@jorgepaiva6894
@jorgepaiva6894 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasgarbaty7374 thanks! Thats because all 911 before have skyrocketed and 997 is also going up
@dalehennessey6265
@dalehennessey6265 4 жыл бұрын
996 & 997 Canadian market please.
@thomasgarbaty7374
@thomasgarbaty7374 3 жыл бұрын
In 2019, I hesitated to spend $34k on a 2005 C2S. Now you can’t find one for $45k
@thomknott9399
@thomknott9399 3 жыл бұрын
When I have insomnia, I play this video.... works eve zzzzzzz zzzzzz zzzzz zzzz
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 3 жыл бұрын
Good for you
@thomknott9399
@thomknott9399 3 жыл бұрын
@@fourwheeltrader you woke me up.
@piotergudrinovicproduction11
@piotergudrinovicproduction11 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent!! Thnx again 👍👍😂
@Sovereign86
@Sovereign86 4 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t you include the 996 Turbo on this list?
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 4 жыл бұрын
That is covered in a seperate video on my channel.
@manisbho
@manisbho 4 жыл бұрын
Great video
@alexlenas7954
@alexlenas7954 4 жыл бұрын
DO THE SLS SLS SLS!!!!!
@MrORAMA
@MrORAMA 3 жыл бұрын
Where are we in the market now?
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 3 жыл бұрын
I just published a market update.
@ericgillis4153
@ericgillis4153 4 жыл бұрын
How about an analysis of cabriolet vs. hardtop? Could pricing show a difference similar to MT vs. AT?
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 4 жыл бұрын
There is no price difference between the two. That's why it is not included in the video.
@stefanfreestylez
@stefanfreestylez 4 жыл бұрын
Build quality and interior styling of a chevy cavalier... so ya well deserved depreciation.
@shorehambeach
@shorehambeach 4 жыл бұрын
Stefan. Your mum said turn off the computer and go to bed you’ve got to be up early for nursery.
@manuelmartineznusn
@manuelmartineznusn 4 жыл бұрын
How old are you ?
@94jrose
@94jrose 4 жыл бұрын
You should do the S197 Mustang chassis. Specifically the Boss 302
@jeangekas7417
@jeangekas7417 4 жыл бұрын
Please evaluate the vanquish 2003-2007 Thanks Jean
@randychiew1833
@randychiew1833 4 жыл бұрын
How about 996 turbo?
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 4 жыл бұрын
Coming up in a few weeks.
@T1Old356
@T1Old356 4 жыл бұрын
Porsche 356 A, B & C
@paulthorpe766
@paulthorpe766 4 жыл бұрын
Funny how the 996 bread and butter cars are cheap as chips but the 1999 996.1 GT3 and 2003 996.2 GT3/GT3Rs are holding up very well. My pal bought a T Reg 95k 996 for just £13,500 it did drive like a big todd though if I'm honest and he sold it in 4 weeks later for £15k 996 good value though!
@Yarmox
@Yarmox 4 жыл бұрын
Paulthorpe That is because they have the Mezger engine
@marky9117
@marky9117 4 жыл бұрын
I think COVID-19 will put a stop to any short term rises. Then once that is dealt with the coming ban of and change in attitudes socially towards ICE cars will stop any long term ones. Certainly here in the U.K. anyway. Buy them to enjoy not to invest in. 👍🏻
@sambone8213
@sambone8213 4 жыл бұрын
Wrong. Classic car market is surging due to CV19 for a variety of reasons. BAT has seen record traffic. Prices on the rise. It's having the opposite effect from what most people have anticipated. UK is irrelevant.
@syedali9179
@syedali9179 4 жыл бұрын
Mazda Miata RF!
@madfemurfast
@madfemurfast 2 жыл бұрын
LOL those were the days...
@NoahBB
@NoahBB 4 жыл бұрын
Ahh the mighty 996, surely the next video will be on the Miata 😁 it's a direct competitor 😉
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 4 жыл бұрын
Moving closer to Miata territory :)
@NoahBB
@NoahBB 4 жыл бұрын
@@fourwheeltrader Excellent :)
@keyo525
@keyo525 4 жыл бұрын
Things is there are 5 pages full on the classifieds- still no where near rare enough yet for prices to rise significantly- although a coupe manual should always be attractive- 997 is much better looking car to be fair although still has the engine issues on the the pre facelift.
@keithkalson4722
@keithkalson4722 4 жыл бұрын
zr1 corvettes c4 c6 c7
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 4 жыл бұрын
There are older videos of the c6 and c7 on my channel. Update coming soon.
@keithkalson4722
@keithkalson4722 4 жыл бұрын
@@fourwheeltrader i was hoping you would focus on the ZR1 corvette. i have seen your other videos on the corvette and the ZR1 is not mentioned from what i remember. You did do a video on the Z06 but not the ZR1.
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