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@pilotgirl5953
@pilotgirl5953 2 күн бұрын
This was a no brainer.
@jasonconley771
@jasonconley771 2 күн бұрын
He must be looking at the high end models! To be starting at $100-$120k it has to be!
@jasonconley771
@jasonconley771 2 күн бұрын
Prices from MSRP is what I am interested in. They haven't gone anywhere but up! When the 2020's first hit you could order a bare bones C8 for $59,999! Now that same car has 15k-25k miles and is for sale used for $65k-$70k! So if these prices are "plummeting" it sure as hell isn't around here!
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader Күн бұрын
This video doesn't cover MSRP, mainly becuase up untill recently the cars were selling above MSRP. To customize it to your needs, you can simple calculate the change based on what you paid. The next market update will pay more attention to MSRP since discounts are now more common than additional premiums.
@AlenTomaAtomElectricalServices
@AlenTomaAtomElectricalServices 3 күн бұрын
Forgot to mention in my previous comment, With Z07 package
@AlenTomaAtomElectricalServices
@AlenTomaAtomElectricalServices 3 күн бұрын
Great video. In your opinion, What would be a good price to pay for a 2024 2LZ Z06 ?
@Kicsino1
@Kicsino1 3 күн бұрын
What price are you talking about?? GM MSRP? Or??
@kenchen704
@kenchen704 3 күн бұрын
And people still defending the Z with their lives HAHAHAHHA
@carminecarreviews624
@carminecarreviews624 3 күн бұрын
I am thinking about buying a 458 in like December do you think that this market is the best to buy right now?
@danieljuillerat730
@danieljuillerat730 5 күн бұрын
If you bought your supercar as an investment iI agree. But in every other case you bought it to have fun and you wont get return on your investment leaving it in the garage. Thaths why I have always driven my Ferraris
@clyde5273
@clyde5273 5 күн бұрын
why is it that your trends and predictions seem to either lag seriously behind by a year or more or are completely off the mark in Canada?
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 5 күн бұрын
The data only applies to the US. I don't know to what extent it generalizes to the Canadian market.
@clyde5273
@clyde5273 5 күн бұрын
@@fourwheeltrader it would be great if you could start to also include the Canadian market situation in future videos
@referencechannel996
@referencechannel996 5 күн бұрын
The SV is the best investment
@peterstuart9755
@peterstuart9755 5 күн бұрын
With most Supercars being financed, continued high interest rates will keep the 360 prices flat or decreasing.. Here in Australia the once A$180k plus prices are now averaging A$150k and negotiable. Some Silver ones are A$140..There is a premium for red. We are now very close to pre Covid levels.Although there are dreamers here who want A$200k plus, which is laughable..
@vishc3577
@vishc3577 5 күн бұрын
Great video as always !!
@peterbelmiro5733
@peterbelmiro5733 5 күн бұрын
Well fast forward to 2024 and the depreciation crystal ball is a bit foggy. Here in Canada a base 2017+ Caymans are going for an average of 70k plus tax. 2018 CGTS are high 90’s + tax. The flat 6 gts used is over 100k + tax. I don’t see that much in depreciation with these cars and especially now that Caymans are going electric. I picked up a used Porsche CPO 18’ CGTS for 120k cad tax in plus extra warranties added. Car had 23k kilometres on it.
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 5 күн бұрын
Here you can find the latest numbers for the caymans: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qMd_iKerq5jSqWQ.htmlsi=-2OCFBBKdUBpjsHG
@Max-mp7lp
@Max-mp7lp 5 күн бұрын
I’ve been watching the Cayman market for 3 years and this is spot on. Carried over inventory is spiking in 2024. Even still, dealers aren’t cutting prices on 987.2s. I’m fairly certain when they sell after 90 days, they are being discounted at the negotiation table, but not publicly. This is keeping prices artificially flat when they are actually coming down. 987.1s continue to drop due to IMS/bore scoring scares. A local guy listed his 2006 CS for 30k but offered to sell it for 26k when we met up. 987.1 inventory is going up and private sellers seem motivated to make a deal. Here are my 987 market evaluations in 2024: 987.1 base = 20-25k 987.1 S = 25-34k 987.2 base = 24-32k 987.2 S = 32-45k As always, transmission, mileage, color, options, and overall condition play a significant role in valuation. I am also seeing an uptick in 987.2 R prices in recent months. It may be the season, or may be a trend change, but Rs are trending up towards 90k.
@HealthMidas
@HealthMidas 6 күн бұрын
Comparing 720S to F488 and 570S to F430? Similar price points only because McLaren are much better cars regardless of the depreciation and myths about reliability.
@mattyb1624
@mattyb1624 6 күн бұрын
So many people hate on the Emira... It's a far better car.
@andrewsproson1410
@andrewsproson1410 7 күн бұрын
Very interesting market analysis.Question, if you state 5% depreciation in 1 year what assumption on mileage for that year do you make.Also does your analysis apply to UK. Thanks
@blaster915
@blaster915 8 күн бұрын
As someone who's been looking to buy one and bring in to Switzerland, this makes me very happy because it may soon be lower than the import costs itself😂😂
@lanceboullion9888
@lanceboullion9888 8 күн бұрын
Your research and presentation are incredibly valuable. Thank you for all your time and efforts in doing this. 10 out of 10! Much appreciated.
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for the kind words.
@EKNCW
@EKNCW 10 күн бұрын
Can you do a McLaren market update, it’s been a while. Particularly interested in the 600LT
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 10 күн бұрын
I do them every six months. This is the latest one of three months ago: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aZxpkqmYltmvn30.htmlsi=tJxVe4Ats72BTg2-
@zeeshanhabib6180
@zeeshanhabib6180 10 күн бұрын
I wanted to extend my heartfelt thanks for the incredible work you've done on analyzing car prices and trends. Your in-depth analysis has proven to be extremely valuable in helping me determine which car I should consider next. The thoroughness and clarity of your report have made a significant impact on my decision-making process, providing insights that I wouldn't have been able to gather on my own. Your expertise and dedication to this project are evident, and I truly appreciate the time and effort you've invested. Thank you once again for your outstanding work. It has been immensely helpful.
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. It is great to hear that the videos are helpfull.
@BlackNAVYAmericanVET
@BlackNAVYAmericanVET 10 күн бұрын
ND1 is less wanted …. ND2 -ND3 has a hold because of the great engine upgrade
@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl
@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl 10 күн бұрын
How about the California?
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 10 күн бұрын
I included it in the front engine GT market update of a few months ago. Have a look at the car market deepdives playlist.
@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl
@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl 10 күн бұрын
​@@fourwheeltraderThank you!
@bentremy
@bentremy 10 күн бұрын
Need an update to this video
@augnkn93043
@augnkn93043 10 күн бұрын
I bought 7 GT3s as an investment and have gradually sold them off making an average profit of 347%. I’d like to thank my local Porsche dealer for all the free money they gave me.
@retro-wreck
@retro-wreck 11 күн бұрын
We have a 987R and will not sell it for $150k
@LeoPiero
@LeoPiero 11 күн бұрын
Once rates drop all exotic values will explode. Great video.
@docmarc36
@docmarc36 11 күн бұрын
I bought my Speciale because I love the car… these are fun to watch but I still enjoy ownership. 😊
@MikeK-vj1ye
@MikeK-vj1ye 12 күн бұрын
What about the font engine v12. Such as the 812 competizion
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 12 күн бұрын
They are covered in the bi-annual V12 update. This is the latest: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iNR9pc2UmMCxhHk.htmlsi=euwnjKf0U4fxiGq7
@coreycohen6160
@coreycohen6160 12 күн бұрын
Can you chart mileage for these cars also? I have noticed lately a lot of 430 and 360 cars selling with high mileage for a Ferrari 30k+ with many over 50k. This is obviously expected as the models get older, but if the clustering of cars for a period of time have significantly higher mileage than previous time periods this could be an indicate of not just a market price change but a supply attribute change.
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 11 күн бұрын
The trends are corrected for changes in mileage to avoid exactly what you are pointing out.
@NoRedTape1
@NoRedTape1 12 күн бұрын
All prices turn down except for the models I am looking for in the US: 360 CS or 599 GTB
@MTbone7
@MTbone7 12 күн бұрын
Always great vids! How about some American muscle? Shelby GT350 please
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 10 күн бұрын
I tried something on the GT500 a while ago, unfortunately the video did not do well.
@Poorschedriver
@Poorschedriver 12 күн бұрын
That SF90 depreciation is horrific. I can't imagine riding $300k in 2 years.
@rayhuge
@rayhuge 12 күн бұрын
Update on C8 market ?
@oliverbaumann8407
@oliverbaumann8407 12 күн бұрын
Great video! You helped me a lot. Thank you 🙏🏽
@chrisparker4940
@chrisparker4940 13 күн бұрын
Thanks again for another Ferrari analysis update. I look forward to it again in 6 months and it will be here before you know it.
@BuddysDadd
@BuddysDadd 13 күн бұрын
I can’t imagine buying an expensive car and barely driving it. Someone said their Ferrari has 6,300 miles. I’ve put 6,300 on my brand new Supra within 3 months!
@RudyP18
@RudyP18 Күн бұрын
Yes but you have to consider the average Ferrari owner has more cars than the average Supra owner.
@DivineFrag
@DivineFrag 13 күн бұрын
Unpopular market videos being dropped makes sense to me, nobody is really checking for those less relevant market segments.
@86Rikki
@86Rikki 13 күн бұрын
Thanks. Just bought a jaguar FTYPE p450 for just over £40k. 2021 and 10,000 miles. Was £88k new. Insane.
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 10 күн бұрын
Congrats on the new car.
@javierinigomoreno
@javierinigomoreno 13 күн бұрын
Thanks for the videos! How relatable are these to the European market you think?
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 10 күн бұрын
Difficult to say, there can be big differences. I will include the German market as well for future videos.
@smiconsulting8434
@smiconsulting8434 13 күн бұрын
The G Wagon market update would be great to see as well.
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 13 күн бұрын
Did one four weeks ago: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZrJhdb2H35nPXYE.htmlsi=Ve3VzF9Et6ZAaTyY
@smiconsulting8434
@smiconsulting8434 13 күн бұрын
Thank you as always for the great information you share with us. It’s greatly appreciated. 🏎️💨
@billtaylor8655
@billtaylor8655 13 күн бұрын
I’m sorry to hear that you’re dropping to every other week. However, I understand. It’s a hobby and I can’t even begin to fathom the amount of work which goes into each episode. Best of luck to you!
@maxamillion5711
@maxamillion5711 13 күн бұрын
I have my f430 spider 3 years never had a problem 6300 miles super impressed with reliability now that it’s paid for almost I plan to keep it because I never thought I’d be so reliable knock on wood
@LeoPiero
@LeoPiero 11 күн бұрын
I have my 430 Spider since 2017. I can say it was a fantastic investment 😊 They don't make Ferraris like that anymore
@user-wo5xh2kz2k
@user-wo5xh2kz2k 13 күн бұрын
Do bmw m3/ m4 market
@sarastroaster2457
@sarastroaster2457 13 күн бұрын
Thank you for another interesting video and as regards your frequency, two weeks will anyway be great ! A small idea for you: have you considered in a given video (especially now that you will be publishing every 2 weeks) to announce the topic of the subsequent one ? So people will be there waiting for it, it will become a fixed appointment for aficionados and rise in my view the level of attention. Just an idea. Keep up with the great work ! And hope next time you make front-engined Ferraris !
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 13 күн бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion. I have sometimes asked for questions on certain topics/cars so i can try to answer them in the video. Perhaps i should give that another go.
@2BXD
@2BXD 13 күн бұрын
Dedicated LC 500 video please
@2f2f45
@2f2f45 13 күн бұрын
Thank you for your very thorough, insightful and differentiated work Harald. Not everybody may comment every time, but we do consider ourselves fortunate that you compile, share and translate the meaning of this data. There is no one like you on that level. We'd be happy to see more videos from you also in the future. All the best!