They should’ve have used the “Vengeful Arthur” lines for low honor.

It's easy to feel sad about cut content, but just remember how much they gave us

From the way John described his time in the gang in RDR1, this version of Arthur would've definitely been more fitting, but I'm still happy with the way they wrote him in the end.

I wish they kept the vengeful voice lines for low honor Arthur

I think vengeful Arthur is cool in theory, I think a big problem you see with this is people go “oh this would have been so awesome cause of how I have imagined it in my head.” This also would have to completely overhaul a lot of the side mission, I just don’t see this much colder Arthur helping a guy take animal pictures, looking for Dino bones, or rock carvings immediately after coming down the mountain

A good arc with this vengeful arthur is realizing he’s no better than Micah or Dutch, making his redemption more impactful

I'm relieved that this was cut because this game is already heart breaking as hell without arthur's newborn dying at beginning

4:53 Just a heads-up, but this is not Eliza in the screenshot. It's a different cut character discovered in the files as 'Leon's niece' who would've been part of the larger Guarma storyline. The Leon in question is one of the rebels we save from hanging in 'Savaegry Unleashed'.

That "i'm sending you to hell' was scary af

'Vengeful Arthur' genuinely resonated with me and seems like it could've been a powerful character arc in its own right. A bitter outlaw lashing out at the world for losing his son in a way so far out of his control and goes on a dark path for most of the story. Until he's forced to confront his death and makes peace with it, seeing that vengeance has only left him hollow. That and his imminent mortality, makes him dedicate his last days to helping others, ending grudges (John), and getting his friends out of Dutch's own vengeful mission so they can have a life where's his was wasted. A darker Arthur definitely had the capacity for a redemption story imo. IDK, if it would've been better, but I think it could've potentially been more complex and maybe not as palatable. Not that the current Arthur isn't complex or has flaws, but he feels too put together and likable. His biggest sins mainly come out of the circumstances he's in, where's this Arthur would've had deeper, more personal failures to reflect on. Which is why I feel they leant a little to hard on the movie cowboy with a heart of gold is my and this is even reflected in his design. I also think it would've made for better low honor runs while also working for a high honor playthrough.

I feel like this version would fit more with the redemption story. A lot of people agree that current arthur wasnt a complete bad person from the start and had some kindness in him but i feel if we had the original, he wouldn't have such good in his heart and it would make the ending more powerful and compelling, it would show how even the worst of men could change for the good even if its a slight change.

I honestly like the current game Arthur more than the original one. Original one is cold and very aggressive but I feel like the original one would be just straight up nothing but bland and boring. He doesn’t have the pretty boy look I prefer too. So glad we got the current game one

4:17 THAT IS ONE HUGE BABY, HOLY MOLY

This angry Arthur would have one-punched Micah and killed him. JEEZ

That opening trailer is *THE* hardest edit I've ever seen, nothing else compares.

“Tell me exactly where… or I’ll smash your head clean open” words can’t describe how cold and frightening that line is. Roger Clark is a goated voice actor 🔥

also the original arthur is tall and big, peoples describes him as a mountain man

i argue that having this in the game would make arthurs final sacrifice of saving john and his family that much more meaningful since we (the player) will literally witness arthur lose his own family on-screen

I think it would have been great to have a more dark Arthur at the start of the game then see him slowly change his way through the game and accepting what happened to his child all of that anger and hate it would have been pretty cool i like the Arthur we got but he wasn't that bad he did beat up that guy that gave him tb but i feel like he wasn't that bad

Love it! Thank you! 🙏 great deep dive into characters

would have been better like this, there would be a starker contrast from the beggining to the end(if you change Arthur's personality with your choices), and he could start at minimum honor(maximum dishonor)so it's harder to build up the meter unlike the final game where we start at Neutral.

Now this..THIS is a very well done video good sir! Accurate yet emotional, awesome dude!!

Pretty cool cut content ngl appreciate this! 💯

Really enjoyed hearing that music from Mafia 3 :) thank you for that, its like two different worlds come together for a moment (well in my mind anyway) and great info here.

this video has crazy good editing bro, wonderful video

Arthur og voice sounds badass and scary at the same time keep those videos coming you got a sub

lets just imagine Arthur's redemption to high honor ending with the events of this cut content. imagine the journey he will go through as a character from cold and vengeful to caring for others. I would love it if Rockstar makes this a little DLC or makes a second version of the game like this. they already got some of this content, I feel like it would make the redemption of Arthur feel more satisfying at the end, like you actually committed your time to making Arthur a good guy

Man will forever be impressed by your video editing skills Hat-off 🎩

This is truly one of the best videos ive ever seen

Never thought I'd see an acoustic cover of a song about the Vietnam War used for a western game... but it actually fits

damn bro only intro deserves at least 100000 views… incredible work!

The Original Arthur Is Cold Amazing Video

That intro was so rad bro, keep up the good work

paint it black 😵 guitar hero nostalgia

Master class editing.. 🔥 damn

Great video keep it up

This video a masterpiece

Very well made👏👏

is nobody gonna talk about how dope the opening part of the video was

Good Lord, that intro was *ridiculously* good. Nice work.

6:06 this line makes me want to see this vengeful arthur

Loved the intro!

The aggressive lines sent me so many chills. That arthur is even more terrifying than when he goes after micah in the low honor ending..

how is barely anyone talking about that opening sequence?? THAT WENT HARD AF

Amazing video

It's never too late too watch a waxy vid❤️

i absolutely loved the editing man! grrat showcase of rdr2's beauty

Normally, i would get sad over what we could have had, but i love arthur as he is, and I wouldn't want to change it

AMAZING INTRO!

"YOU'RE A DEAD MAAN" That line is just perfection, rage incarnate.

6:01 that gun fire transition was clean

Amazing line from Dan Houser

This video is great w song ❤🐐

I can't lie, I would like to see this version of Arthur in the original game, however, fitting him in there would be a very difficult job. We must stop analyzing things based on our own tastes; in general, Vengeful Arthur would make people not have as much empathy with him, causing less attachment. His redemption marked by his death would be technically more impactful, but in practice it wouldn't shake us as much because we don't have as much attachment to him due to the lack of empathy that his cold version would cause. That's probably what the developers thought, deciding to change the trajectory of the story. Of course, we can think that this would fit very well in the low honor version, also making a much bigger difference between high honor and low honor playthrough - something very interesting. In practice this would not be possible. Why? We must remember that in the beta version it was planned that Guarma (formerly Guama) would basically be another game; there would be a giant map, saloons, shops, explorable areas, collectibles, etc., but in the end we only received a micro-island with a linear story made up of half a dozen missions. The game's epilogue would also basically be RDR1 Remake, being extremely faithful in several aspects to the first game, but we also received just that rubbish, where the only good thing was actually the story. Doing this kind of thing is extremely complicated, costs a lot of time and money, and is not always possible. Furthermore, no other game came close to what RDR2 did, even with so much content cut it is still the best game in the history of video games. In short, we're lucky to get what we got, even though it's cool to explore the cut content and feel sad imagining everything we could have gotten more.

wake up babe nephew done posted a banger

Arthur’s son cut content makes a lot of sense considering the game does start with a death but it’s Davey instead of Isaac

Isaac and jack would have to get revenge together if Isaac wasn’t cut dead.

Awesome intro my man!

The few lines you shared are very similar to how Abigail acts which i do believe played a part in her becoming cut content. Two kids and two wives who are always talking about hating John and Arthur may have been overkill

Nice video

what a badass fucking intro killer job

Hey waxy i just stumbled on your channel...love the video great job, hey where did you get the version of Paint it black for your intro? Great intro. thank you.

Lovely mate, now I have something to watch on my way from TAFE

That intro is the hardest shit I've seen in awhile 🔥

Another thing is there are also voice lines from the New Austin and Blackwater sheriffs suggesting that Arthur could’ve accessed these places. Maybe (in-game) you could’ve gone to both places, only the second the law saw you or you hung around town for too long they would start chasing after you. (Just my theory)

This is the first time I have more views than a Waxy video, it's prolly gonna be short-lived but it's still trippy none-the-less, also should've used the other thumbnail. DD

intro music paint it black by The rolling stones

Mom wake up, Waxy uploaded.

First John felt like they watered him down, now I learn Arthur was meant to be more serious? Man this sucks...

The intro feels like an intro for a Red Dead HBO show

I wish the lower honor that you have as Arthur affects what lines of dialogue would be used

Amazing intro 😎

I still want to know on how : the gang came to know one another - how Arthur & John were brought up by Dutch as well as where they found. Since Arthur says Dutch taught him to read. How was Davey and the others killed before they ended up in the first scene up in the snow.

I would have liked to have seen the angrier and more violent Arthur as it would have given him something more substantial to redeem from and it would explain away certain interactions with people in the world and how they view him such as the O'Driscolls fearing him and labelling him "Van Der Linde's Bruiser" and even Jimmy Brooks being absolutely terrified of Arthur. Also the way certain gang members are stand offish with Arthur at times for example when Grimshaw thanks Arthur for helping save Tilly she gives him a backhanded compliment about being good but only sometimes. To add it would coincide better with the way the narrative progresses and it definitely shows that this was the original plan for Arthur's characterisation.

Great video. Any idea who made the "Paint It Black" cover in the intro? Thanks.

Think how many secrets Red Dead redemption 1 has that we will never know.... due to it coming out in 2010

Loved the Stone’s song in the intro

Chapter 1 in Colter was supposed to be longer, there is a whole region of the map cut off. I assume if they sticked to the frozen newborn plan he would have left most of that anger in the snow.

Appearantly Arthur was supposed to have a Rifle Hostler but Rockstar didnt add a Option to add a Rifle hostler probably because thry dont know an Animation for it to equip and unequip or propably because everyone had Straps back then.

great intro

I think it's good that it's cut. It would probably distract from the more important narrative of Arthur's relationship with the gang too much. The short line with Arthur opening up about his dead son and the bitterness on the world he held since then explains enough about his character, even though it's rudely interrupted by Rain Fails wanting to pick ginseng.

Brother this intro is fire! I want to see more of that🔥Very good video also,keep it up.

Game doesn’t even feel like it has cut content because there’s so much in it😂

Good vid.

It will play it but it might be sad

thanks 4 making this video bro

I probably would have played Arthur as he was originally presented; a vengeful and miserable man. I’m glad this content was cut, otherwise I likely wouldn’t have given him the honorable end he deserved.

This is great man you're extremely underated

That intro was fire

People need to know that Arthur was accurately meant to be low honor. After all he was running in a gang that killed, robbed and hurt people.

Fire

A mix would have been nice. A very brutal, cold to the outside type at the beginning and than your actions later on would feel like a bigger impact

intro hard asf

This for chapter 1 all the way and the rest for low honer but I’m with high honer it’s a bit rare

if this was in addiition to the story we got, i think it wouldve made it even more emotional once the end came. we kept hearing he was a bad man and we got some of that. this wouldve added to it in a good way. they couldve release a mini prequel dlc but we all know why RDR2 didnt get any dlc

The intro ❤

what's the name of the song at the start of the video and yes they should have used the first script of Arthur Morgen

Theres also a reference to a girl named Eliza, but in the serial killer lair where you capture Edmud Lowry theres a missing poster of Eliza Bloom on the wall, not sure if its the same girl but it could be intresting

Vengeful Arthur. Dauuuum! That would have completely changed the game!