Maybe the true theory is the friends we made along the way

My opinion about when John gets arrested in Saint Denis is that if he was with the gang on the boat he would have most likely died when the boat sinks cause of the fact he can’t swim 🏊‍♀️

I love how there a dramatic fiery into that just says “BILL IS GAY” 💀

red harlow theory will always be funny since there’s a 10 year time gap between revolver and 2

So my gf works with ppl with tbi's The trolly accident could absolutely cause severe swelling and possibly bleeding. The loss of hosea and knowing he likely caused his gang to fail would only compound any symptoms. As well as the guilt of shooting that girl in the head. Yes he'd start loosing his grip on sanity

Personally, I like to think that after Red Dead Revolver, Red Harlow retired from the life of a Wild West gunslinger and lived a regular life. To rid himself of his past, Red changes his name to Leigh Johnson clears Armadillo of all the squatters and makes it livable again after the diseases we see in RDR2’s New Austin pass through, where the people elect him as Sheriff

Abigail being the rat is another stupid thing. People focus on one thing, but dont say the other… like her relationship with other gang members.. why would Abigail put Arthur, John, Hosea and Sadie into a danger? How she slipped away from bank robbery? - she isnt known outlaw, she was dressed up as a fancy lady of Saint Denis, she could easily mingle with a crowd. Or maybe Hosea helped her? Ever thought of that? They are each other’s father-daughter figures. He didnt want her to get captured or k*lled… Why was she taken by Pinkertons to van horn? - she literally says it. She was outside of a camp. And the reason no. 2.. STORY. PURPOSES ! Just so we have emotional scene of Arthur and Sadie telling her John’s dead. And mainly… SO SHE GIVES ARTHUR A KEY FROM THE CHEST, since John has told Arthur that Abigail knows where the money is. - Milton had no reason to lie about Micah… Milton counted on Arthur not leaving that fence store alive. So he could spill all the beans on him. And pls. Jack is John’s son. Point blank periodt. Javier joined a gang in 1895, Jack was born around spring/summer of 1895. Timeline doesnt add up. Bill is gay (Steve J. Palmer actually said it), Arthur was full of Mary in his head, and Dutch would’ve hardly sleep with her. Like… do you think he’d take an orphan girl in distress to his gang to use her as a prostitute? Really? 😂😂 that goes against the whole facade of morality dutch is preaching. Yes he said to john “oh we all had her” but after playing both games multiple times… it sounds more like he just wanted to tease john and make him mad.

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Aye bruh this quality is top tier I like how you didn’t just mention 50 different theories and actually went into depth with the most plausible and compelling ones

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I can believe Micah being a rat as early as that, given how despite all that running and hiding , Milton and the Pinkertons are always a step right behind. The only thing why I don’t think he would turn Dutch in that early (Colms set up) is because Micah still doesn’t have the location of the Blackwater money that only Dutch and MAYBE Hosea know the location of

I think one of the main grounds for the strange man theory is that Arthur’s journal says that he saw someone similar in stature to trelawney in blackwater, and later trelawney says he was in blackwater. We also know from rdr1 that the strange man was in both blackwater and st. Denis.

Im from the future and imma spoil the next 3 rockstar games for you. GTA6 reveals the man in the hat is actually rockstars version of the watchers. It assumed the role of angel of death in red dead 3 times(aka when dutch starts the van der linde gang) and reveals themselves in GTA 6 in a dlc update. In Bully 2 they make a cameo as the local groundskeeper AFTER clearing a certian mission

Of all the theories, I gotta say, I really hate the “Trelawny being The Strange Man” one with passion 😄

To add the Dutch brain injury, in the mission where Eagle Flies, Dutch, Charles, and Arthur steal horses from an army boat, when Dutch crashes, it looks like he was very dizzy, possibly relating to the trolley incident

Been waiting for this one. Excellent video, as always!

2:51 made me laugh so much

Abigail ain't a rat. Bill is super gay. Person ain't a rat. Jack is obviously johns son. I do agree that Molly may have been pregnant. Micah was already ratting on them in chap 3.

Wow I hope you do more icebergs in the future!

Uncle's exaggerated backstories are Red Harlow.

Make sure to pack an outfit suitable for cold climate on your horse before embarking on an expedition on an iceberg

Keep up the good work, I love watching rdr2 theories thinking there are countless of them

All Waxy videos are fire, this one will probably burn the iceberg down with how fire it is

Loved the video bro! The quality is getting better and better 💪

I love waxy your quality is so good

A iceberg made by a creator I trust and a creator that’s involved with the main community and his own community. Never give up dude.

The idea of Jack being Javier's son based on facial hair STYLE is just silly tbh. The way in which you STYLE your facial hair isn't genetic

Love the red dead content keep up the good work.👍

Saying Jack doesn't look like a Marston because of a mustache is crazy 💀 Bro styled it

I have to admit I was so focused on the content and information in this video I didn't realize 3 different voices narrated this video until after watching the whole thing. Good video, though!

Absolutely wonderful, not finished yet but ive always been waiting for a large collection of the theories about rdr2. I've just started a fresh, heavily modded (for looks) playthough

Good video waxy never disappoint 🔥👍

Awesome video, Waxy! 🔥

First time watching one of your videos and I thought it was great so here's one for the algorithm.

If there is a heaven and hell, Arthur's hell would be having to watch all that Dutch does after Arthur's passing It broke Arthur's heart already, seeing what Dutch became in the later chapters; but seeing what a monster Dutch became by RDR1, would absolutely crush Arthur. And then seeing Dutch kill himself because of his own insanity and desperation. Then again, he'd get to see Dutch shoot Micha :)

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I agree that the trolley accident could have changed dutch's mental health. But summarize everything we see in the game to "he hit his head" is just to simple Hosea and Arthur says multiple times in chapter 1, 2 and 3 that Dutch is different. That he's acting and doing things differently now. When Sadie asks Arthur what happened to Dutch in chapter 6, he says "It seems like what started happening in blackwater started happening long before.. a slow decline perhaps" In Arthur's journal, before blackwater, he writes about how they had money and the opportunity to disappear and buy some land. But didn't, because Dutch just didn't liked any land that they found and kept blocking their attempts to make it work. I feel that this event made Dutch's "nature" kick in. He noticed that fighting could be more important than saving his loved ones. I feel that he was conflicted about this two options during the whole game. He sometimes talks about the gang as family. And sometimes talk about them as disposable soldiers "of course it would be casualties" Then he gets cornered by this changing world with constant pressure. Being doubted and confronted by the people that always idealized him. His failures causing pain and deaths Having a big trauma on the head, losing his best friend, his younger son/brother and getting stuck in a hot af island far from his land. Honestly it's surprising he was able to form complete sentences in chapter six. + i'm playing the game again and i just noticed that when Arthur tries to talk with bill and javier about Dutch's recent choices. They never even mention leaving, they always bring the "if we have to fight, we fight. With we have to die, we die"

A new red dead iceberg let’s go 😭, I haven’t seen a new one in MONTHS

Great video Waxy! Love these theories😄

Great video! Keep it up!

Rockstar is explicitly, said that red dead revolver and red dead redemption are two completely separate universes but what I think is that uncle is this universe’s red harlow as red Harlow is mentioned

Wonderfully made

Waxy…you’re awesome bruh!!

Very nice video!

It’s more than just one line dutch says “I bumped my head badly” When the crash happens

My opinion a red dead story about Lyle Morgan would be pretty sick, since his story is pretty much untold and his whole identity is barely mentioned at all throughout the story

That intro music got me in tears ngl, idk y.

To anyone wondering whether or not Uncle really is Red Harlow; The answer is clearly, NO. Now let me explain. -Red Harlow was no older than his 20s by the time his story ended. So he wouldn't be older than his 30s, possibly 40s by the time of RDR2. Uncle is clearly older than that. -There is no scorpion scar on Uncle’s right hand (unlike Red Harlow). In the first level of Red Dead Revolver, Red grabs his father’s revolver and fires it while it is engulfed in flames. The revolver had a scorpion emblem on the grip, and that emblem was burned on to the palm of Red’s hand. After that scene, we are shown a time-skip, and it is revealed that as an adult, Red covers his entire right hand with a red colored handkerchief. There is no sign of the scarring or the handkerchief on Uncle’s hand. -Red Harlow was very morally strict and a famous bounty hunter. Red spent the majority of his life fighting and hunting down gangs, even gangs similar to Dutch's gang, and taking down infamous nasty people. I would question why anyone thinks he would be living with outlaws now. -the nickname "One Shot Kid" is never used for Red Harlow. In fact, that name does not exist anywhere in this series apart from the one time Uncle says it in camp. It was not intended on being anything other than another drunk Uncle anecdote.

bro just gave me an extensional crisis with the “in the 20 years of the RDR franchise” fuck we’re old man

That “have a wax-tastic day!” was totally unexpected considering the very chill tone of the video😂

If Abigail is a rat then she is stupid, because ratting on the gang puts not only herself but Jack at risk. As shown when they show up right after they reunite at Lakay. I just don’t see Abigail putting Jack at risk like that. Hosea definitely sacrificed himself to get Abigail out. That’s in his character

A well made vid man I found out about rdr2 like a month ago n I been going craaazy about that game rockstar outdid themselves here even by their standards

Abigail point is interesting. Another thing I have just considered though is how its a little strange how 'uninviting' Abigail is to the gang members in the epilogue. She also in some ways defends Micah, trying to dissuade plans to kill him. Its also crossed my mind that when she kills Milton whilst he identifies Micah, she could be trying to cover her back as she's scared he will mention her involvement also?

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You talked about how the strange man’s clothes were to represent death but there’s a theory that he’s death himself and he gives him the quest to deliver him death. (Also great video)

Regarding bill I noticed after breaking out mica is when you can get bill asking for hair promenade and Arthur will ask who you tryna impress or something along that line

I like to think in the context of Revolver and the Redemption games are in seperate universes. Uncle is an alternate version of Red Harlow. Basically Red Harlow is what Uncle might have been but in the Redemption universe was known as "The One Shot Kid" instead of Red Harlow.

Personally I like to think red is uncle just cause it connects the three games better.

Here me out, how cool would it be if RDR3 was a game set years before RDR2 and you get to play as both Red Harlow and Landon Ricketts (like in gta v) They both have a mysterious untold part of their gunslinging days. It could be that they ran together as two of the greatest gunslingers of all time. And you, as the player, get to live out their glory days riding together. Maybe they'll have a third gang member that you can also play as but he dies at the end, and Harlow and Ricketts get revenge

I think uncle is rather a reference or tribute to Red Harlow, But i could imagine uncle being a gunslinger earlier in his life.

omg these r genuinly good therioes

Dutch was already quite vile before the trolley mission. Good men just dont shoot innocent women, case in point during the Blackwater heist. I think the potential brain injury definitely sped up his decline, but he was already slipping

A little something that I found is in the mission where Arthur and Bill get the dynamite wagon for a split second you can see three red dots at the house where Micah was at

ITS GONNA BE LIT🔥

Good stuff.

Cant wait!

Really good editing

Great video

The Abigail theory changed my whole perception of the story for me. As for when Milton dies and doesn't tell Arthur that it was Abigail, I think you could pass that as Milton holding up his end of the bargain. Only for Abigail to realize that Arthur is as much a part of her family as John and turn on Milton herself. I think it would be believable that she was fake tied up to give the illusion that she was under threat in case any of the gang that would come looking for her. After all she managed to get out of the restraints no problem. As with any theory it's not perfect but has enough that makes sense, to me at least

Excited!!

Nice theories

Another thing that’s wrong with the Josiah = the strange man theory is that John would definitely recognize one of the many people he was in a gang with for years, even with him popping in and out of the gang from time to time.

Best crossover ever 🔥

I think micah coulve ratted in blackwater i cant remeber if it was dutch in the first mission or javier when they went to rescue john he says it was almost like they knew they would rob the ferryboat

the micah being a rat for the odriscolls in chapter 3 makes perfect sense because he had to be snitching to somebody

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It's crazy how the RDR1 Red Harlow model looks so similar to Uncle. They're probably not the same person but still. I also viewed "Revolver not being cannon" because its the retelling of the LEGEND of Red Harlow than the actual events that happened. There's story's about Red Harlow you can hear in both games.

Came here from reddit. Nice vid (:

My game theory for uncle (and the personal head canon I like to believe is that he is Red Harlow, and the events of Revolver happened in some fashion in the RDRedemption universe, if all else fails, then it’s just a campfire story in the redemption universe.

I've always had a hard time believing Micah was the rat, he's so obsessed with survival and so careful I don't really think he'd carelessly leave clue around his camp. I also think about his correspondence with Amos, and what did he write to Amos first. Also his guns with the vengeance is hereby mine etched in, maybe he wanted revenge on Dutch and played the long game? There's of unanswered questions

A theory that supports the Abigail theory is the fact that she saved Arthur because she knew that he was slowly starting to criticize and turn against Dutch for his actions. And, Milton was probably thinking that Arthur would find a way to survive, so he lied and said Micah was the rat.

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This video so fire it melted the iceberg

9:10 “Since the whole gang had their turn” is MAD crazy

How does this man only have 12.6k subs 😭

AND HAVE A WAXTASTIC DAY had me rolling

I think Abigail being the rat is a solid theory. It even makes sense canonically, the pinkertons make a deal with Abigail to bring down Dutch. But in RDR2 they didn’t manage to bring down Dutch. They track down Abigail and then tell John they’re keeping her hostage until the jobs done. Why else choose John? Dutch at least suspects John and Abigail and maybe that’s why he didn’t want to save John.

So Susan shot Molly in the stomach so did she get a double kill

That thumbnail is just 👌

11:42 this bounty must be really old cuz as Milton says Arthur's is 5k and Milton wanted Dutch more than anyone

Yoo another point to add that bill is gay, is that in red dead redemption 1 when hogtie and capturing javier escuela if you wait long enough john says this "so its you and bill now you two sharing one bed" and javier replies "hey c'mon its not like this"

I think abigail probably was the second rat, and she killed milton to stop milton from killing arthur. But then, why not just tell him to stop, you ask? Its either because she knew milton would have killed him anyway along with her and sadie, or that she wouldn’t let the secret get out about her being the rat and possibly ruining her relationship with john, and maybe even jack.

My favorite theory is Dutch being a cannibal, it’s almost confirmed in the game with all the human bones around his body. I never actually heard the last one but I personally believe Arthur killed him, he said something along the lines that he watched him die or something like that.

Undead Nightmare theory. Seth befriended Reyes to get the mask that starts the zombie apocolypse and betrays by letting him turn and frames the whole thing on him. The goddess says that Reyes thought the mask would make him invincible but he's a zombie. When we see Seth he's hanging out with zombies and they never attack him. If Seth took the mask and Reyes didn't it makes sense why zombies don't hurt him because the power to not be harmed by them can only be given to the person who misplaced the mask. In order to cover his tracks he blamed the whole thing on Reyes seeing as to how Reyes wanted power over Mexico.

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8:00 rdr3 better give you the ability to hijack trollies

Red dead revolver takes place in 1886. These must have been a tough 13 hears for uncle if he really is red harlow

i feel like uncle made up his backstory and changed so people wouldn't go oh that's red harlow and try to kill or bother him