Love how Markle wanted to be Princess Diana and yet became Wallis. Poetic Justice. Sheila

Sometimes history really does repeat itself.

‘Less than dynamic in their mental capacities’ You make me laugh every time.

As a Brit, I am so appalled that David was so enthralled by the Nazis. I don't blame Wallace I don't look at anyone else but him. Ultimately as you say the men, both Harry and David are responsible for their own actions. I see them both as incredibly weak, cruel, and self interested people, who were given immense privilege but abused that advantage. Like Wallace, Meghan played their small parts like people at the edge of the stage, encouraging, whispering and trying to take their slices of the pie with as little effort as possible. I'm so glad that he did abdicate, how dreadful it would have been if this nazi sympathiser had been our king. Thank the lord he never was 🙏

I'm British and a Royalist but I know that in the 1930s a fair amount of British nobility and upper classes were antisemitic and pro-nazi. Thank God the current Royal Family are free of such prejudices and biases.

Thank God he abdicated. If he hadn't, I wouldn't be alive to write this, neither would my children, grand children, and so on. I was 3 in the UK in 1939, and I'm Jewish.

The quote from Wallis about planning David's life struck me differently. The depth of self importance and arrogance of Wallis to think she in fact could plan David's life is astounding. I have no doubt that David was like a child in his need for maternal management. By the same token, I think Wallis reveled in thinking that as horrified as she was at the prospect, she in fact would stick around and manage David's every moment. Any other woman with an ounce of good sense would have abdicated that task back to David. However, she took perverse pleasure in holding David's life over his head and he was too vacant of brain cells to see her contempt for him. Nevertheless, as I see it, David didn't abdicate the thrown as much as he abdicated growing up and being accountable for his own life. He was a perpetual ner-do-well who lived off of and took advantage of the good graces of anyone who wandered into his orbit.

David and Harry were both woven from the cloth, as are the women they married. I seriously can’t believe how alike the two couples are. David wanted a the power and to be important. He only wanted the title of King for all to bow down to him. How I wish we didn’t have to wait a whole week for more but understandable. Until next Sunday beautiful lady. You’re brilliant . Enjoy your week ❤

David’s guiding character trait was selfishness. Everything he ever did was to further his own ends. He didn’t want Wallis to build a life with her, he wanted her the way a little boy wants to be a fireman or an astronaut; he didn’t particularly care that she didn’t truly want him. If he had he wouldn’t have trapped her with threats of ‘undoing’ himself. His selfishness colored every single aspect of his life, including his time on the throne. He was too selfish to be king, even. It was too much work. His selfishness shines through in his relationship with Germany & Hitler. From what I’ve read they cultivated him for years, using his natural love for German culture & his affection for his German cousins to pull him in. The NotSees had been active in Germany for close to 20 years by the time Hitler seized power; they’d have always known of course that David was the crown prince & heir to the throne. Do you think they’d let that opportunity slip by? Whether Wallis was in on it or a conveniently appearing plot device, I don’t know. I’m not sure if it matters much at this point. Whether she was officially a spy or not, she was certainly giving information of some sort or another to the Germans. It would have been easy to manipulate her into being an almost inadvertent spy. She certainly loved the power and the game. As for David, the NotSees were busy whispering in his ear that once they had total world domination as they planned then he could be back on the British throne, with Germany pulling the strings. I’m sure he envisioned a merry little scene of him doing all the ceremonial fun stuff that he liked so much. It wasn’t his love of Germany pulling him towards the NotSees. It was his love of self.

I'm surprised that the book doesn't cover David's childhood and pre Wallis but I guess we can all fill in the blanks of his character.

The blackmail thing seems to center on from whom David was getting these luxurious things and accommodations in that once he'd accepted they could then be in a position to stop those luxuries or continue them and David would be sort of over a barrel. Not many knew how rich he was but all knew he preferred getting things without actual money changing hands. Just a horrible selfish person; I'm thankful he left his position.

I 've got to give you mad props. I was super excited for this book. I'm an avid reader and lover of all things history. I bought the book in paperback and had zero attention span with it. I then went for the audio version and still had trouble focusing on listening, it was just so lackluster and boring. I don't know how you do it, but listening to you review this book is endlessly entertaining. I have even found myself counting down the days, waiting for Sunday to arrive just to hear your review. Thank you for that. Edit: I wrote my above comment before listening to today's video. Yes! What you're describing with the endless, tedious name dropping was a large contributing factor in why I was having trouble focusing. My mind would wander, and I'd end up rereading/rewinding to the same paragraphs 10 times over.

The similarities are incredible. I watched one of KZfaq's documentaries about the pair. One thing that stands out to me is how people around them that had money grew frustrated with them because even though they were "friends" they got tired of loaning their New York penthouses and their yachts and their planes and so forth.

Another cliffhanger that leaves me wanting more! I love Sundays with Cheere Denise

Oswald Mosley was married to Diana Mitford. They were rabid Nazi sympathizers and he styled himself as the leader in Britain. One of her sisters was Unity Mitford, who was smitten with Hitler (she was in his inner circle) and went to Germany. She tried to commit suicide by shooting herself in the head, but survived and died a bit later of complications. Diana had another sister, Nancy Mitford, who wrote Pursuit of Love and Love in a Cold Climate, and also a biography of Louis XIV (which I read before I had ever seen any information about the sisters). There were six Mitford sisters. All of the people in the book are historical figures. I understand there are too many characters in the book, but there are so many interesting things and people worthy of further reading.

Both Harry and Edward had an unhealthy codependent relationship with a controlling, ambitious mother figure/lover. Wallis and Meghan used these men for money, isolated from the royal family and caused them to put carnal pleasures abode duty to their country.

She was just like Meghan in that she was in love with the life she led as Davids mistress all the gifts and money and mingling with high society. She wasnt in love with David himself at all and tried hard to stop him abdicating just so they could get married because then the life she wanted would end. She didnt want to saddle herself with the dim man child for the rest of her life but once he abdicated for her she was stuck. She didnt want to divorce her husband!

I think he thought he’d put his eggs in hitlers basket as he’d burnt his bridges at home, and he might get the opportunity to end up back with some power. Also I think he was pandering to Mrs S’s interests. Mosley was such a vile character. I can’t believe he was chummy with him. I’ll say it again, we dodged a bullet when he abdicated!!!

It concerns me how freedom speech is being annihilated by youtube and other organizations. I would love to see that list. What a world we live in. 😢❤

The German's promised to put Edward back on the throne if they won the war, Wallis wanted to be queen and have power, he would have done anything for her including betraying his family - just like how history is repeating itself today, Wallis was banned from wearing a tiara and royal jewellery ( just like Meghan has been banned )so Edward spoiled her and bought her loads of jewellery, Wallis was banned from using HRH but in close circles he made the staff call Wallis "your Highness" to make her feel good, which means giving a narcissist power and control

My current theory regarding David's ties to Germany is that he was interested in being a puppet ruler. As you said, David liked pomp and pageantry and gossip, but he wasn't very interested in the day to day drudgery and responsibility of ruling a country. David's whole existence revolved around constantly needing to be entertained. I think he cozied up to the Germans, thinking that, if they won the war, they had someone to put back on the throne to "play the part" of king without any actual responsibilities. He could go to dinners and parades and make appearances, but the Germans would be running the country behind the scenes. He wouldn't need to be told any crucial information, he would just relax in his castle, golf, shop, and play his bagpipes while Wallis had her fun with the German officers.

I've been waiting for this today! Picked up the book at the library for my Mother, who prefers to read herself. We are having a blast discussing it!

1/After Edward abdicted, he hope that the Nazi would put him back on the throne, with Wallis as queen. If they won the war. 2/He allegidly 'sold out France', by giving Germany their armies dispositions. According to a documentary I saw. That's why he was shipped off to be govenor of the Bahamas, by the British government. 3/Chips Channon was a British MP 4/I doubt if Edward and Wallis would have ever had children, so Elizabeth would have become queen on his death in 1972

"When he abdicated, there must have been rejoicing among some parties..." Yes indeed! And no one was more relieved than former PM Stanley Baldwin, who had warned Parliament about David's and Wallis' ties to Germany. Baldwin seized on David's desire to marry Wallis to get rid of him. That's oversimplified, but basically accurate. Edit: You've just gotten to Baldwin.

David and Wallis truly deserved each other imo

He wanted his throne back with Wallis as Queen. The Traitor king .

How is this channel still at 21k come on people press that subscribe button!! Amazing commentary I could listen to you all day 💖

You are right about Harry and David. Their wives just gave them permission or possibly an excuse to be the nasty people they truly are and were

I’m so very impressed with your content and delivery of it. I love to learn and your delivery makes it so interesting that I don’t have to constantly rewind because I spaced out again. You have an unreal talent at doing this and I’m more than very appreciative of it. Thank you.

"Hot garbage juice!" 😂

Bare in mind. After the great depression, most of Europe chose fascists. They all targeted the unemployed, desperate working class. Including Mosley and Hitler. Hitler turned the German economy around and was admired by numerous powerful Americans and British aristocracy. They needed to keep the working class occupied. 😅 There was also prejudice towards Jews and other races in many circles. 😢Germany had considerable sympathy because of the devastating effects of the Treaty of Versailles. So not quite as crazy as it seems. Having said that, I'm with you ❤❤❤

David wasn't so unique in fanboying Hitler and the Nazis. There's a book by Julia Boyd called "Travellers in the Third Reich", consisting of letters and essays written by tourists from mostly the UK and the US, holidaying in Germany during the 1930s. Some people could see trouble coming, but many were impressed and carried away by the shiny facade of progress. science, newness and energy. They really thought this was the wave of the future. Some just were taken in by very superficial things, like the nice shopping and food they enjoyed; everything looked so clean and tidy, and British visitors thought this was much better than their dingy, rundown surroundings back home. Of course, David would never have seen any of the underlying ugliness, and as for the Jews, the British upper class wasn't too keen on them anyway, so many of them didn't really care if they were being kicked around. It's funny that you mentioned Edmund in 'The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe' because I was thinking the exact line just as you spoke it. "She was jolly nice to me!"

Cheers Denise you should watch the interview that Andrew Gold has done with Andrew Lownie. It’s really interesting and also quite frightening how much dreadful behaviour was covered up on behalf of David, dickie Mountbatten and prince Andrew.

Thank you Cheere Denise, this is not a book I would have read, you make it interesting. The similarities with the grifters is uncanny.👍

Does it not remind us of Harry and Markle when they 'stepped back' then threw their families and our country under the bus. David and Wallis left GB and cozied up to the Nazis then wanted to get back on the throne, regardless of his family and his country. I think the Germans (Nazis) gave him back a sense of importance, they laid out the red carpet for him, they listened to him, they treated him like he was still a King. David liked being important and Kingly once again. I don't think he wanted to know what was lurking about in the background with Hitler, he just wanted to feel like a King again just for himself as usual.

22:00. Good comparison. Speaking of, when I read that book as a child…never before had I read ANYTHING that made me want to taste something like that book made me want to try Turkish Delight. And when I did, I was like, “really, Edmund? THAT’s all it took?”

Might change my mind but I do think David was planning to come back after Hitler conquered England! Excellent reading/ commentary/ analysis love ur videos 💙💜❤️

Very interesting, Cheere Denise! Wonderful story telling and analysis! I guess your little ones won’t be getting pocket mirrors!😂😂

I laughed when you read the guys description of the Queen. In the end it didn't matter what she looked like she breathed terror into the heart of Hitler. As for David, IMO, no grand objectives he just wanted to be wanted and needed because once he abdicated, just like Henry, life in the palace carried on without him.

I think David wanted to be a statesman-like figure, without the work. After all, he abdicated to get out of the work. He wanted to go places where powerful figures, in and out of government, would fete him and Wallis with receptions and banquets in prestigious locations. Since he could not do that in England, he would do it in his ancestral land, in America, in the Commonwealth, wherever. Wallis shared in his ties to Germany.

Baba Metcalfe was the daughter of Lord Curzon who was twice Viceroy of India and later Foreign Secretary .Her Godmother was Queen Alexandra .She had a sister Cynthia and she married Oswald Mosely.He was involved in an affair with Dinah Mitford and when Cimmie ( her nickname ) died he married Dinah . David would have known exactly what was going on in Germany Oswald would have informed him .

I thought Hitler promised David that after he took England, he would reinstate David as king. A puppet king, but he had a taste of exile and didn’t like it! He knew enough about what was happening, and had a hunger for getting his power back.

The amount of luggage....they took everything AND the kitchen sink! 😮

I'm so happy right now. As I was reading this book I thought about you and having to do a review. This is not an easy book to review. There are so many players and scenarios. I also knew that you would do a great job and I was right. Thank you for taking on this task for us. ❤ See you next Sunday 🌞

I wait all week to hear the next chapter. You do such an amazing job!! I am captivated and entertained. You provoke a lot of thought. I really appreciate your hard work Cheere❤ Thank you

Love all my audiobooks, but your readings have surpassed them. A pleasure to listen.😊

Loving this! It's like H&M but historically significant.

I once asked my German husband’s grandmother what she thought when the Nazis came along and she said we were all ‘begeistert’, which means thrilled, enthusiastic. I think it was the same for David. It was the thrill, it was exciting and the power is intoxicating to some, especially morally weak people.

I think that he was disgusted that he had to give up the throne to marry Wallace and that he saw Hitler as a way of getting Wallace on the throne as his Queen. If the Nazis won the war , Hitler would be in power and he could be installed back in his rightful place as King with Wallace as his Queen. Remember, he never gave up trying to get HRH for her, and it would’ve been his ultimate dream to have her beside him as Queen.

Happy Sunday! I’m ready for your new chapter!

It’s kinda funny that the drama queen in the Windsor relationship was David, constantly threatening to delete himself. It’s highly manipulative and horrible to do something like that if it’s an empty threat used to bully and coerce. Who did that in the Sussex camp? 🤔

He wanted to be king, he was just blackmailing government. He thought they would let him marry Wallis if he threatens them with abdication, but this time british government was so over him.

The D of Windsor really never understood the Nazis would go after him too, in time. Read about poor Princess Malfada, daughter of the King of Italy. She married a Hess, yes relatives of Her Late Majesty and the Duke of Edinburgh, got cross ways with Hitler and died in a concentration camp. Very tragic, the camp was bombed by the allies, she was badly injured, and bled to death having her arm amputated. Her children were with a grandmother at the time and happily survived.

Several years ago I read a book about Mosely "Rules of the Game; Beyond the Pale" by his son, a novelist, Nicholas Mosely. It is very well written, unfortunately out of print now. I borrowed it from the library (woefully marked up). That entire period was fascinating. Mosely's second wife, Diana, was a brilliant and beautiful, rabid antisemite and fascist. She and Mosely were married in the presence of Hitler in the home of Goebbels.

I think we’re incredibly fortunate he abdicated. His capacity for self-indulgence is staggering. Both of them Entitled & arrogant & so easy to detest. They’re both shameless beyond measure.

I just finished reading the book, and I am so excited to follow along with your review. You are the only book reviewer I have ever followed. I anxiously wait for your notifications sometimes, even listening to your shorter versions in-between. You are so much fun. Love the community, thank you.

Thank you, I enjoyed your reading this book and had to buy and read it. My goodness, it’s so Harry and his wife. And they are a threat to the 1st amendment. So very alike in that way. Thanks again.

David loved the great uniforms of the Germans. Fashion and showmanship were right down his belie wick.

The late Queen E II and KCIII were and are fluent in German and I believe French as well. besides close family ties to Germany people in Europe frequently speak multiple languages unlike us here in the States.

Eww... Edward and Wallis really do sound like Harry and his wife 😂

I am listening on audible and you are so right about so many players in this saga, yet at the same time I respect the writer’s attention to detail.

David wayering the flowers puts me in mind of Marie Antionette playing in her fantasy garden.

Another terrific reading and commentary, thank you. I would guess he was a man looking for some quick power. I am guessing the same for Harry amongst the Hollywood celebrities. I'm a victim and we were driven out of the UK sounds more like losers than powerful.

Having watched The man in the high castle recently it feels eerie, chilling even, to realize that if just one little thing went differently, the outcome of the WWII could be a lot different

I so look forward to this, it’s a wonderful channel Thank you Cheere Denise ❤

omg I so look forward to these oooooooooohhhhh!

The trith is that Edward never thought his threats of abdication would be accepted! He thought he was irreplaceable and no one was able to take over the crown!!!

England breathed a collective sigh of relief at the departure of Wallis and David back in the 30’s and again when Harry and Meghan left 😅 hopefully the problematic couple stay away like their predecessors

Germany has some kind of appeal to certain people. Before WW2 many German Jews were very proud of being German and felt they were better than the Jews from other countries (I am saying this as a Jew myself). What not to love? A cultured, highly civilised nation, with their love of order and discipline, art and music. A country of picturesque views, clean and pleasant land with relatively good weather (not too hot and not excessively cold). German Jews to the last moment didn’t want to believe that those cultured, civilised and highly industrious people would turn on them in their own “heimat”. Sad but true.

If you would like to know how many times you need change clothes before dinner, just ask MeAgain! She seems to have it all down like it is an Olympic sport.

To do him justice, as king, David has visited Welsh mining communities and seen the squalid and impoverished conditions and has publicly stated that “something must be done”. This publ😮c expression of support worried his ministers quite a bit.

😂😂😂this video made my day😂😂😂

I would love to see you do a collab on this book w Lady C as she has encyclopaedic knowlege of the likes of the Mitfords and the BRF and can add so much context.maybe Starkey the historian also.Both have the ability to paint the bigger picture.

I never thought of England dodging a bullet by Edward abdicating. It makes "The King's Speech" even more compelling. Bertie is the complete opposite of Edward, and SO admirable. I feel the same about Queen Elizabeth II. So dedicated and dutiful. We'd have missed those two. Thank God that He displaced Edward.

Really enjoying your reading. Thank you. I think the Nazis thought that TDOW could be useful. Quite a few members of the upper class in UK were sympathetic to Hitler and also antisemitic, ( horrible as this now seems). From TDOW's side it was vanity. The Nazis reeled him in like a codfish! By the way, have you read Kazuo Ishiguro's "The Remains of the Day"? It gives a good picture of upper class fascism in the 1930s.

David ENJOYED the POPULARITY the “working man “ gave him.

Hi Cheere, one part made me chuckle. When you said they didn’t give David any sensitive papers it reminded me of the bit in Her Majesty’s funeral. They deliberately said that the coffin was coming down by train 🚂, when it was always being flown down. A few minutes later, what was all over the press? “ the coffin was coming down by train”. Hmmmm 🤔🤔🤔. Now who do we think leaked that? There is a great similarity between the ‘men’ but Wallace still,had more class than Harry’s wife. Was she really a spy? Yes, I do think so but we’ll probably never know. 🙏🙏👵🇦🇺

David wanted to show Wallis what a Royal tour was like and knew she was going to get treated like a Royal duchess that his family were denying her. This was very important to him to validate her. He wanted to please her because he had not expected his family to deny her status.

Always check my notifications for updates. Thanks! I Feel David Thought The German’s Would Give Wallis The Royal Treatment They Both Felt She Deserves/ Wanted.

Thank you for continuing to drawing the parallels. I can’t get enough of them, and I bet the list will be so long by the end of the book. It’s comical.

@ 9:42....regarding the 187 pieces of luggage, during my reading I wondered where the hell did she acquire the outfits and accessories to fill them...she sure didn't have that much as Mrs. Simpson from America...that must have been one grand shopping spree charged to the House Windsor.

Woohoo I've been waiting 🙂

I didn’t finish “The Crown”, but my favorite scene is when David..Edward…goes to Queen Elizabeth II and she confronts him about being a Nazi sympathizer. 😮

This is such a valuable book to analyse in the current climate… We had David & Wallis acting as a huge distraction and supporting the nazis & therefore the world war, and we have a such a similar couple in Markle & Hapless who are so underhandedly and determinedly undermining freedom of speech… even here in Australia 🇦🇺 through the pseudo charity Archwell… which has donated to a government investigation into how to censor subversive voices in our media here! This is real meddling on a modern scale but is directly comparable to what David & Wallace did! 🙄 The parallels are astounding…

She was known to mock him and called him a little man.

I get that riled up over Harry’s shenanigans. No one pays any attention to

I saw an interview with the author of this book. He stated clearly that HE SAW THE MASSIVE PARALLELS WITH HARRY AND MEGHAN.

Many historians have posited that he went there because the Germans gave them the reception/deference that the British denied Wallis. They were treated like Imperial Highnesses, something that she has never experienced before. He was still obsessed with her and wanted her to have every luxury she would have had as his Queen. He was a complicated man who came from a complicated family. Edward VII (his grandfather) was just as selfish and was the same kind of character who treated his beautiful wife atrociously (with Camilla’s ancestor!) . Harry comes from a long-line of dastardly ancestors. Probably a big reason he didn’t like learning about HIS OWN heritage in school, it hit too close to home.

Apropos nothing, you have the loveliest hair. Great channel, thank you.

I’m right there with you on piecing together all the ‘name-drops’; told my husband the other night that I need a bulletin board to help remember them, their ranks and importance!! It’s tedious… glad to be reading it with you. ♥️

31:31 shockingly similar

Looking beautiful today! I’m here for this book. Thank you.

Thank you!!

Happy Sunday to you. Good to see you again.

I think David was too shallow to have any deep political convictions. His narcissism would have elevated anything that would make him feel important and give him petty power over others.

I love the Chronicles of Narnia . CS Lewis was one of greatest christian authors along with Billy Grahm and many others . Yes I attended church at least 4 times a week & in our teen bible study we read the lion witch & the wardrobe & discussed it at length

I'm reading this along with you, so it will be interesting to hear your thoughts. Side issue, your hair game is strong today.

As to her being a spy, she was an American and theoretically didn't have a dog in the fight at the time, so she wouldn't have had the moral dilemma a British woman would have. (Not that Wallis had a crisis of conscience, ever.) She was...generous with her affections, yes, but she was also very money hungry, having grown up poor. She picked men who gave her gifts. She would have been easy to buy. I can't prove it, but if I had to guess, when the King found her fascinating, she saw it as a chance to be the mistress of a very rich and powerful man. The German officers she was sleeping with saw it as a way to give her money for information. I'm not sure she'd see that as spying. I think at some point, she lost control of the game. David played at a level well above her and when he threatened to off himself, I think she felt trapped. She was also likely encouraged to go through with the marriage by her German men, as they'd have access to the King that way. If the Marburg files are correct, the German plan was David would have been put back on the throne as a puppet King and she'd be Queen. If all else failed, she could divorce him. She'd divorced several men before. I don't think she anticipated David's personality, his manipulation, and how truly hated she would be. If she'd have left him, what would she have had? (Also, she did at one point leave him for another man, but ended up coming back when that went bad. Marrying David made her infamous.) David seemed dim, and he likely was, but I think that was by choice and I think he was very cunning and manipulative. She used people, but he was much better at it. So, to shorten that, I think she didn't set out to be a spy, but the Germans used her as one.

From 17 pieces of luggage to 186+80 additional pieces... I know after a marriage, you should go forth and multiply, but I didn't guess this extended to your luggage as well! But dang, they must have been fruitful!

FYI As Prince of Wales David had toured some of the most impoverished areas of the UK.