Traitor King Review #6: He’s got a Pack of Illegitimate Kids AND Had an Affair with a Male Cousin 👀

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@AmyJoTraut 9 ай бұрын

His abdication was the best thing to happen to the British monarchy. He was so morally compromised and his brother was the picture of morality. King George and then Queen Elizabeth saved the Monarchy

@loubieloujones5698 9 ай бұрын

His brother also chose a good wife who understood duty.

@ardendetweiler2607 9 ай бұрын

As Denise said, a good man raised Elizabeth...the best thing that ever happened to England

@LMS99 9 ай бұрын

Agreed.

@heatblair 9 ай бұрын

Yes! And there wouldn’t be scandals with illegitimate children trying to claim the throne once Windsor passed away, which we all know would’ve happened!

@theresa42213 9 ай бұрын

Amy ~ ABSOLUTELY! xD

@happysmith6666 9 ай бұрын

David and Wallis definitely give off the same train wreck vibes that Harry and Meghan do. I’m enjoying this book and your review tremendously! Thank you so much.

@Lisarojenko7331 9 ай бұрын

She’s the best. I want too be her assistant!!! She’ll need one in 6 months min

@heatheralice89 9 ай бұрын

Minus the moonbumps:)

@Lisarojenko7331 9 ай бұрын

I’m talking about Denise LOL

@DavinaWilson58 9 ай бұрын

Other way around. 😁 Harry and Harry's Wife are giving off The Duke and Duchess of Windsor 'vibes'.

@evelynpaterson2823 9 ай бұрын

Totally agree!!!!!

@silvialesko8261 9 ай бұрын

To spare the current King blushes for his grandfather, King George VI was actually named Albert (called Bertie by the family) and used his 4th name, George, as his name regnant. He was never called Prince George…before becoming King, he was Prince Albert, Duke of York. He and David had a younger brother with the first name of George (George Edward Alexander Edmund), who was later named the Duke of Kent. This brother with the first name of George is the Prince George who was being blackmailed by the gigolo. He had a scandalous reputation. He died in an air crash in 1942. His wife was Princess Marina and he was the father of the current Duke of Kent.

@Mag75684 9 ай бұрын

How interesting. I feel so ignorant about my own Royals. What a confusing way of using their names. I totally would not have thought that the late queen's father did bad things though. He stuttered and seemed studious and no hell raiser. He left that to the others.

@jaimekennedy5750 9 ай бұрын

The then Prince ALBERT, Duke of York, when his brother abdicated, was strongly advised that, he should minimise his subjects distress, by using his late father's name, George, as his reginal name, to make the royal transition easier. Poor Bertie wasn't expected to be a very good King...

@Paula-Galgo 9 ай бұрын

And the father of Prince Michael of Kent. 😊

@eshiestrik2756 9 ай бұрын

Just commented on this. You beat me to it ❤

@eshiestrik2756 9 ай бұрын

@@Paula-Galgo Prince George, Duke of Kent was also the father of Princess Alexandra of Kent ❤

@hollybrooke322 9 ай бұрын

About the hotel living situation. This would be much different than yours. They were in a suite of rooms. Imagine if you spent your summer in a penthouse suit with every amenity and the cash to do whatever you wanted. Full on concierge room service. Dining in swanky upscale restaurants. Full staff. The works. They were not suffering.

@deborahvanwijk1052 9 ай бұрын

As Georg Hegel (German philosopher) said: “The only thing that we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history “.

@ardendetweiler2607 9 ай бұрын

Sadly true! WHY????😞

@flyonthewall8122 9 ай бұрын

My favorite is "History is written by the victors." Churchill is usually credited with first saying this, but its actual origins are unknown.

@deborahvanwijk1052 9 ай бұрын

@@flyonthewall8122 Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” Winston Churchill

@oghoghomakinde7892 9 ай бұрын

I agree totally with the queen mother's position as allowing the exiled David back to the UK and given any formal role would have undermined her husband

@ardendetweiler2607 9 ай бұрын

Absolutely! I was proud of her

@ginalou5774 9 ай бұрын

Also there were two other brothers that were available to help. In fact having David out of the way was a blessing

@Lisarojenko7331 9 ай бұрын

I agree with all three of those comments and there they’re really good points

@susanmoorhead8762 9 ай бұрын

I didn’t know that it the the Queen Elizabeth then who was at the forefront of exiling the couple. Was this decided just after he stepped down before the coronation? I know she was bitter about his abdication bc she felt that the responsibility put on her own Husband would be too much for him. He was a gentle soul. As it happened WWII was just around the corner, snd it was definitely a strain. He smoked a lot for his nerves, and it was the main reason for his untimely death. I’m surprised that his dr didn’t tell Elizabeth that her father was going down hill fast. Was this exile open and definite, passed by the government? If so, when?

@Lisarojenko7331 9 ай бұрын

@@susanmoorhead8762 Go watch the Kings speech with Colin Firth and it’s factually correct

@RayneSaltair 9 ай бұрын

Holy Crap the complaints about the places they are staying, and trying to find a home, sounds just like Meghan with the whining about Frogmore.

@EileenBubeck 9 ай бұрын

King George v is reported as having said " After l am dead Edward ( David ) will ruin himself within 12 months.I pray to God my eldest son will never marry and have children,and that nothing will come between Bertie and Lilibet and the throne ".

@michellegormley236 9 ай бұрын

Omg Harry has a mother complex... baby talk is a turn off. 😮

@greerstirling9665 6 ай бұрын

baby talk is a red flag in a relationship

@ellendeluca4941 9 ай бұрын

My darling..ugh. I'll never forget when MM called out to H saying " My love.." when they were taking a picture after seeing Hamilton...🤢

@chrissierunham4533 9 ай бұрын

MM properly only called Harry ‘My love..’ because she couldn’t remember his name!

@onmylastnerve282 9 ай бұрын

The Queen Mother was smarter than just about anyone. She knew exactly who the Windsors were & was intent on being her husband's strongest supporter. She was absolutely correct in arguing against their return. I don't know if this anecdote is true but my mother always claimed that Hitler called her "Europe's most dangerous woman".

@marlenewolffe4613 9 ай бұрын

@onmylastnerve282 I have heard that Hitler called the Queen Mother that too! She was indeed the most astute member of the royal family!

@atharvaveda87 9 ай бұрын

There is no greater protector of the family than the woman. And that what Queen mother was. You can go as far back and as the early years of the monarchy in Britain and you will see all the matriarchs power and forces in protecting the children and their family

@dt3802 9 ай бұрын

He did. She had the love of her people and that terrified him.

@LG-nb5ur 8 ай бұрын

She was indeed known by thst moniker

@Missy802 9 ай бұрын

Harry makes Norman Bates seem so well adjusted

@ardendetweiler2607 9 ай бұрын

🤣

@lindseyjohnstone7135 9 ай бұрын

😂

@Pandabaire3540 9 ай бұрын

...something I have realized as I grew older is that around the world, members of royal families and prominent politicians have a proclivity of carrying on with or marrying women that have questionable pasts (i.e. basically had been sex workers at one time). As a child I had seen these women through the media lens as graceful, poised, moral, elegant, and high classed - but in actuality it's a complete eliza doolittle moment for many of these women when you start looking into their lives. I just read that after Wallis' death, her jewels went up for auction - at that time it was found that several pieces of jewelry for sale had actually been claimed as stolen in London in 1946 - so David and Wallis participated in insurance fraud as she never again wore the jewels in public after collection of insurance claim funds.

@Lisarojenko7331 9 ай бұрын

Oh my gosh that’s true so true I forgot that

@flyonthewall8122 9 ай бұрын

Their money & prestige protects them. Many, if not most, of our celebrities have a good bit of shadiness going on as well.

@susanmoorhead8762 9 ай бұрын

She was a piece of work, and so was he.

@queenredspecial 9 ай бұрын

Gross. Imagine being so rich and living in such mental squalor.

@susanmoorhead8762 9 ай бұрын

As I have gotten older my instant criticism of immoral young women who have turned to prostitution. We don’t know the backgrounds they have it why they may have turned to what we consider a degrading and dangerous way to make a living. Drugs snd alcohol addiction can destroy natural inhibition. You don’t know what they experienced growing up. If you criticize the women who end up in these situations, shouldn’t you criticize the men who partake of the way they use these women?. Poverty and drug addiction can lead people to do all sorts of things we find repugnant. Desperation and despair can drive people in many bad directions. I do think the extremely wealthy people who jet set around the world, doing frugs on huge yachts or mansions. M… there is definitely an element of that. The poor may be more prime to the same thing. They have nothing to lose. The middle class who are doing all they can to work hard, keep up a house, and do their best for their children… they don’t have time to be indiscreet! And possibly their mores are more ingrained within their culture. With social media news spreading like crazy, most of us somewhere in the middle class are more apt to stick to the rules. I think if Catherine, Princess if Wales snd what a wonderful job they did with their 3 children, and then down to their grandchildren. Their hime was full of warmth and love. Their children were taught to be their best selves. They also created an enormous company with huge profits, which enabled them to educate their children at the finest in the UK. I am in awe of them. Covid took their children’s party pieces down and they have had to sell out. They created their own destiny, and gave their children self confidence, a love of the outdoors, and the importance of Family. We should all be so lucky to have a solid foundation like that growing up. I think that may have been part of William’s enchantment with Catherine.

@tinascheldrup874 9 ай бұрын

Can you believe the perpetual boredom that leaves a person so wanting for excitement that literally Anything is acceptable?

@Alex-ib6tm 9 ай бұрын

It’s crazy how a former royal’s life decisions can make me feel better about my life. 😂 I have it pretty darn good being in a wheelchair. I’m not married to someone who is never happy, I’m happy. I’m not associated with any extremist political parties. It’s all perspective, people! 😊

@debbiekerekes4209 9 ай бұрын

Wallis called Elizabeth “Cookie”? Can you imagine how Elizabeth felt meeting Megan? That same kind of disrespectful, cheap trollop? Like a recurring nightmare!

@user-vj8it1qk5w 9 ай бұрын

W called the Queen Mother, who was Queen Elizabeth then, 'Cookie" not the then Princess Elizabeth. But yes, exactly the same kind of trollop!

@debbiekerekes4209 9 ай бұрын

@@user-vj8it1qk5w oh thank you for the correction! It’s hard for me to picture timelines…

@debbiekerekes4209 9 ай бұрын

Cheere Denise is a GREAT STORY TELLER! I love her analysis, her explanations and attention to little interesting details and summations… can’t wait for more after this book!

@elizabethroberts6215 9 ай бұрын

……to read why W & E called her ‘Cookie’, may I suggest you read book, ‘The Queen Mother’, by Lady Colin Campbell. Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon was a narcissist. She was a truly nasty piece of work. She was manipulative, conniving & dangerous, same as someone else currently. The book is a real eye-opener into her horrid character…………

@user-vj8it1qk5w 9 ай бұрын

@@debbiekerekes4209 As we say in NZ (regardless of gender) 'Cher, Bro' means 'no wucking furries' xo

@kipscathy1850 9 ай бұрын

Regarding the bit about their neighbor, the one who retrieved the blackmail letters for his brother George … remember, all the royal children had other names before they got a title. The “George” in this instance is their youngest brother - a playboy who I think was later killed in an air fight during WWIi. Duke of Windsor’s younger brother who became King George VI was actually named Albert and called Bertie in the family. Let’s not blacken that poor, decent man’s reputation with the blackmail letters of their youngest brother who was really named George. (These family names do make for a real jumble though, don’t they? 😂 )

@therealinformalmusic 9 ай бұрын

Yes, I was just about to make the same point but decided to check first whether someone else had noticed. By the way, the name Bernard as in George Bernard Shaw, in Ireland and England is BERNəd, not BernAHD.

@NiniM8154 9 ай бұрын

George did die in a plane crash, though not in battle. He was on a quasi-diplomatic trip to Iceland, but there are numerous questions surrounding that flight.

@annemoncrieff3875 9 ай бұрын

George died in plane crash in Scottish Highlands on a 'diplomatic' mission to Iceland.

@ollimommy 9 ай бұрын

You are such a luxury and treat to spend time with! We moved from Dallas last year to living off grid in the Ozarks. While I do love this lifestyle in my late 50’s, it is such a treat to listen to your reviews and reading the comments. It’s like a book club in the middle of nowhere. I’ve certainly been praying that you and your family are feeling comfortable and settled in and making new friends!

@heatheralice89 9 ай бұрын

I was so confused for ages that King George VI name wasn't really George, and that had a younger brother who's name was really George (Duke of Clarence)!

@shawndory5193 9 ай бұрын

My Sunday treat!

@Lisarojenko7331 9 ай бұрын

I agree with that 100% she is to me a little angel that dropped into my phone

@suekelly3744 9 ай бұрын

Ditto ❤

@mimib95 9 ай бұрын

This has become my Sunday treat so I brew a coffee and sit and enjoy. I have to say I googled the alleged illegitimate son, the actor Tim Sealey and he definitely looked like Windsor. The thought that his offspring and descendants where and are scattered over the world is shocking, I wonder how many of them know.

@ardendetweiler2607 9 ай бұрын

I do look forward to this on Sundays as well 🙂

@flyonthewall8122 9 ай бұрын

I almost missed it. My days got mixed this week & I've been thinking today was Saturday, so I'm snuggled down in bed at 10:00pm to watch.💜

@KoffeeKat18 9 ай бұрын

This is how David had money. Remember he was the Prince of Wales and as such got all the revenues from the Duchy of Cornwall for years and he kept all of it for himself and he wasn’t taxed on it, and did not go towards any expenses, so he squirreled all that away and hid that amount from his brother when he abdicated. Also, as king, he owned Sandringham and Balmoral outright as those are not Crown Estates and the new King had to BUY these from him and the King was obligated to pay David back in installments. So he had LOTS of 💰.. The parallels between these two pathetic Windsors and the whingeing Sussexes is just eerie..

@FishyFun57 2 ай бұрын

What you wrote about David is true. He had the money from the Duchy and sold the private estates back to his brother. So few people know this detail.

@bernadetteverstraete9038 9 ай бұрын

As the queen mother said to a journalist at a little tea gathering....there can only be one king in a country at one time. And she never forgave David for the stress he cause King George that she felt hastened his death. George VI was a wonderful, much loved king and gave us a most memorable monarch besides himself, his beautiful Elizabeth II.

@dt3802 9 ай бұрын

So many similarities to H&M. No jobs, gave up royalty while still pretending to be a royal, big house, servants, security. Then there's Henry himself. No friends, spare to TW etc. Theu wven took pictures in HM doll house. It's almost like they're doing this on purpose.

@atharvaveda87 9 ай бұрын

Also the Mulroney name sounds the same 😂😂😂

@dt3802 9 ай бұрын

@@atharvaveda87 I noticed that too. 👍

@MichelleFoster-bm9wz 8 күн бұрын

Creepy

@texanpondue 9 ай бұрын

"Dictator whisperer..." I died laughing!!

@marylyn3081 9 ай бұрын

Wallis grew up as Maryland elite. Her mother and she was supported by a rich/business man uncle. She married a pilot who was alcoholic and divorced him so uncle cut her off. She hung out with her best friend then married Earnest who treated her great. He was half British and went to England. That's in a nutshell. Earnest married the best friend.

@THATBossCricket 4 ай бұрын

“, , , I never should have thought about taking Austria . . . “. LOL!!! Your imitation of Hitler is just SO DARN CUTE!!!

@johnpritchard1754 9 ай бұрын

I think you are so right about a life of wealth and leisure becoming boring. When every one of your darkest fantasies have been fulfilled, what is left for them to live for? Nothing in life is exciting. Many millionaires actually commit suicide.

@SorelaLanguageSchool 21 күн бұрын

Then you go to Epstein's island to mess with kids or fly Instagram models to be pooed on

@HandmadeDarcy 9 ай бұрын

I swear there is a certain level of wealth which trips a switch in the brain and turns our taste dial to 'Dictator Chic'. Every now and again, as you read, it strikes me that we're talking about the 1930s and that the Depression was barely over, certainly not recovered from, and what a bizarre, out of touch, compassion-free life they lived.

@bernadetteverstraete9038 9 ай бұрын

The best thing to ever happen to the RF was the abdication of David....and in turn George VI became king,

@mariaelenagonzalez4450 8 ай бұрын

Frieda Dudley Ward survived the Titanic

@artemisjuno 9 ай бұрын

Thelma,Lady Furness was an extremely famous American with a twin sister who became the mother of Gloria Vanderbilt, thus a great aunt of Anderson Cooper. There are books written about her exploits.

@UrdVerdande-dt3ey 9 ай бұрын

Prince George, who apparently was being blackmailed, was NOT the later king George VI, who used to be prince Albert, but decided to take his father's name (and his own fourth name) to restore faith in the monarchy, as far as I have understood. Prince George was David's and king George VI's youngest brother.

@cheeredenise 9 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@UrdVerdande-dt3ey 9 ай бұрын

@@cheeredenise Sorry, I meant to write "David's and George VI's (sixth) youngest brother"... which I now has corrected in my original comment.

@EvaMoritz 7 ай бұрын

Listening to this all I think that Britain really got away with a terrible person who could have been a monarch. Thank goodness.

@bernadetteverstraete9038 9 ай бұрын

The government and the church wanted him gone due to him being such a threat...so, they forced his hand and actually knew he would make the choice he did. The world was better for it.

@partlycloudy3519 9 ай бұрын

I just want to say prayers for Israel right now . 🙏😭 . I do enjoy your book reviews & recaps

@DebbiSmithDC 9 ай бұрын

Amen-I’m traveling and can’t keep up as much as I want. Thank you for bringing them up in prayer. (…and to think I’m freaking out because my face has decided to break out. Sheesh). 🙄

@susanmoorhead8762 9 ай бұрын

I am saying prayers. Very worried for all-out War., I don’t understand how Israel had no clue. A daughter spoke to news. Said they were there as a family to celebrate Yom Kippur. They are huddled in a hotel. Safest place for now.!if Hamas shoots an American plane taking people out, I assume Biden will retaliate. If he gets it at all. Last time he saw Netanyahu he did the sign if the cross.

@LindaWagner-fi2py 9 ай бұрын

@@DebbiSmithDCdon’t worry about your face,, it’s a matter of a few days and you will be fine, yes this is all Bidens fault he provided the Money for the attack on Israel!!!

@cliftafrizzell4687 9 ай бұрын

Lord protect Israel.

@karenrobertson2312 9 ай бұрын

Amen!

@stephaniegiles8324 9 ай бұрын

Sadly, this decadence is still the norm of the elite. It doesn’t change the fact that it is disgusting and should be revealed so it can be renounced and restoration can happen. Makes my skin crawl.

@hayswhite 9 ай бұрын

Lady Cs book on the Queen mother fills in the blanks a whole lot with Wallis and Edward.

@susanmoorhead8762 9 ай бұрын

So he used Wallis to get out of being in the throne

@ruthf6035 9 ай бұрын

Gigolo to his brother George, not Bertie, King George VI

@cheeredenise 9 ай бұрын

Thank you! I wondered even as I uttered that sentence if I might be messing that up

@jenny8344 9 ай бұрын

Prince George, Duke of Kent was the younger brother of David and Bertie. Died in a plane crash in 1942. Rumoured to have been bi-sexual.

@radhikam2401 9 ай бұрын

If this isn’t OG H&M, I don’t know what is. Very disturbing stuff. Wonder how many kids H has.

@flyonthewall8122 9 ай бұрын

I've often wondered the same.

@thatsfunny2051 9 ай бұрын

10:30pm on Sunday night over here in Australia! Time to listen! I remember reading the chapter about David's alleged worldwide network of illegitimate children and frankly being surprised that he could manage it if you know what I mean. The guy is such a sook. Does not give "sire of many" vibes lol

@cheeredenise 9 ай бұрын

🤣 no he absolutely doesn’t! Shocked so many women were looking to cozy up to his skinny little self

@cliftafrizzell4687 9 ай бұрын

Well, there are plenty of women who would cozy up to the Prince of Wales and wouldn't care that he was a skinny little simp.

@thatsfunny2051 9 ай бұрын

I would if his descendants are still running around NZ haha

@lynn6221 9 ай бұрын

I agree. Although I can see him being bisexual, he gives off those vibes

@tanianaldrett8637 9 ай бұрын

@@thatsfunny2051it was apparently in Dunedin, I’m there today I’ll keep my eyes peeled 😂😂

@british.scorpion 9 ай бұрын

I didn't know he was an infantilist, I wonder how far he took it? Did she give him a dummy (pacifier) to stop him crying, maybe put him in a nappy (diaper)? The mind boggles.😵‍💫

@lisalivingston6473 9 ай бұрын

@british.scorpion I bet he even made her spank his little bottom - LOL!

@denb695 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for all the hard work you put in to make this book so enjoyable.

@Lisarojenko7331 9 ай бұрын

210% agreed

@magdalenastevense1332 9 ай бұрын

My reaction to this chapter: Oh what a tangled webb we weave. Looking forward to the next chapter!!

@romarobbins270 9 ай бұрын

When I was a little girl, I collected miniatures and had a playhouse… but then I grew up and got real ones. I don’t think David ever actually grew up.

@ardendetweiler2607 9 ай бұрын

Plus, it does seem unmanly🤮

@flyonthewall8122 9 ай бұрын

Makes me think of Andrew & his teddy bears.

@Terhi2023 9 ай бұрын

I collect swarovski miniatures and I'm 53... I don't travel with them, though😉

@johnpritchard1754 9 ай бұрын

Cheere, I could read the book but i would miss the brilliant insights you provide.i really look forward to your weekend readings. You are such a treat.Thank you .

@cheeredenise 9 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!

@NiniM8154 9 ай бұрын

Alexander Larman's book The Windsors at War, published this year, has even more details about this critical time period. Very well written! Highly recommend!

@createstuff7870 9 ай бұрын

Great episode!!! The sister triangle reminds me of Charles dating Lady Sarah Spencer and meeting her underage sister, Lady Diana Spencer.

@7jarrow 9 ай бұрын

That comparison is a bit of a stretch 😅

@bethallen7384 9 ай бұрын

But, when he began seeing Camila seriously after the divorce, he would phone her husband would answer and just hand over the phone like, ‘it’s him’. And she’d go into the other room to chat as long as Charles wanted to. That went on until the ‘tampon’ scandal when her husband had to divorce her from embarrassment. Charles could have whatever he wanted. And her husband had to go along. That’s how it works with royalty even now.

@Lemon_N555 15 күн бұрын

You've got it wrong- Diana was fan-girling after Charles. She set out to snare her older sister's leftovers. Aided & abetted by her grandmother (Lady Fermoy, friend & Lady-in-Waiting to t Queen Mother) & Charles' grandmother (the said Queen Mother). Diana was not an innocent wallflower; she wanted to be Queen one day. She grew up reading Barbara Cartland's Regency romances (like the books the Bridgertons Netflix series are based upon). Cartland was Diana's step-grandmother. They wanted an illustrious match for the Spencer girl; that's how it was in those circles in those days. So stop believing that Diana was NOT complicit in snaring her real life Prince!! She could've settled for a lesser rank, bit she aimed for the most eligible bachelor in the world & got him! The rest is history....

@Wanda711 9 ай бұрын

The little girl's pearl necklace story sounds typical - I'll be Wallis would take a dim view of letting any jewellery escape. What was shocking to me was how un-kingly and un-noble it was. You'd expect a king (or king-to-be) to have a feeling of loftiness. This was petty - snatching goodies from a child. But he was a petty person. I think a lot of people didn't want to believe that; they were invested in the idea of kingship and wouldn't admit that David was just a bum who happened to be born in cushy circumstances.

@Ellie-Mae 9 ай бұрын

This is awesome! I'm really enjoying your book review and your fun sense of humor. 🍁

@anniep855 9 ай бұрын

The parallels with the hakles is astonishing. I bet that she demands staff to treat her as a queen. Idiocy!

@THATBossCricket 4 ай бұрын

I’ve never known a man who was into “Miniatures”. Women, yes, we are always charmed by doll house furniture, Hallmark Christmas ornaments and even the little McDonald toys but Men - Not so much!

@MeItsMeLol 18 күн бұрын

I think it depends upon how you define “miniature”, if you believe that a miniature means porcelain figurines of ladies in fancy dress, then yeah collecting miniatures is more common among women. But since miniature means something reproduced in a smaller scale than in real life, model railroads are miniatures and are far more collected by men than women. Hot Wheels and Matchbox cars are miniatures, Star Wars action figures are miniatures, and so are collections of tin soldiers, and all are generally more popular with men than women. So I disagree with you, men collect miniatures equally or nearly just as much as women because something being smaller than in real life does not describe a gender, it describes a size.

@MeItsMeLol 16 күн бұрын

Sorry, I didn’t realize that Cheere had said essentially the same thing. I hadn’t gotten that far in three video when I wrote my comment above. I do stand by men collect miniatures too, but I wouldn’t have bothered to point it out to you had I know when the comment started.

@maureenormston8356 9 ай бұрын

Thoroughly enjoying your reading and review of this book and learning so much in the process. What a pair of deluded fools these two were and the parallels with the Gruesome Twosome are somewhat unnerving. Looking forward to the next chapter 👍😊

@cheeredenise 9 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@Boudicca527 9 ай бұрын

I opened KZfaq and got all excited. I look forward to your episodes every week🎉

@merrywalsh2809 9 ай бұрын

Love your moral compass and logic, Cheere. Really enjoying this. 🌹

@michelejashinsky8409 9 ай бұрын

There really is an instant replay w H&M‼️ Sense of entitlement is astounding 😤 really enjoying ur videos especially appreciate ur values, which seem rare today 💜❤️💙

@ardendetweiler2607 9 ай бұрын

Yes!

@maryminetola2687 9 ай бұрын

Kabosh my new favorite word🤣🤣🤣 not surprised the elite pass each other around its been happening for centuries. Henry VIII and the Boleyn sister's just an example of parents using their offspring to cement themselves with the crown. It's mind boggling how peasants have a higher moral compass since they are merely peasants after all. Love listening to you! Your sarcastic comments are plucked right out of my mouth 😘😘😘😘😘

@hilxyzurmoon7334 9 ай бұрын

Just finishing off Revenge and can't wait to start on this one! Thank you for your insightful, humour filled take on these books - it is a delight to listen to you ❤

@cheeredenise 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for listening to Revenge!!!

@queenredspecial 9 ай бұрын

@@cheeredeniseOh that was amazing!!! (But for the music, which got stuck in my head.)

@flyonthewall8122 9 ай бұрын

Another great aspect of this community is the informative & thought-provoking comments!💜

@Robutube1 9 ай бұрын

I'm not sure what i enjoyed more in this episode - the constant stream of revelations proving the money doesn't buy class or the schadenfreude I derive from your reactions and commentary 😂. Oh wait, it's definitely the commentary! Thank you for putting so much fun energy in to these posts.

@ellendeluca4941 9 ай бұрын

I'm loving your reading and interpretation of this book!! What a hot mess these 2 were. Look forward to each new chapter!! 😊 ☕️

@JanaMitchell-wi8qt 9 ай бұрын

Great story teller. Love listening to you read.

@NiniM8154 9 ай бұрын

Anne Sebba's book That Woman gives an interesting view of Wallis.

@meganpodesta9197 9 ай бұрын

I don't think he wanted to be King. That's why he insisted on marrying her. I don't think everyone knew back then. I do understand why the church,politicians and the royal family rejected the union during that Era.

@tatantina 9 ай бұрын

That was fascinating denise.your character shines through your commentary, and that shapes up as fine

@elinstar6034 9 ай бұрын

I think there was so little social mobility back then, that 'what everyone knew' was probably all too true - many families would have had a son or daughter who was in service up at the big house and knew what went on.

@epic_andra 9 ай бұрын

Denise impersonating Hitler was not on my bingo card this year😂😂 but it is definitely welcome

@cheeredenise 9 ай бұрын

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@aliciab4236 9 ай бұрын

Your book reviews are beyond entertaining. When you said "the dictator whisperer," I almost spit out my coffee. Though I've read this book, hearing your thoughts is much better. Thank you for a fun way to start Sunday. If you're interested in the background of Wallis Simpson, I'd recommend the book That Woman.

@thatsfunny2051 9 ай бұрын

I've read that one too! I second the recommendedation

@cliftafrizzell4687 9 ай бұрын

I'm currently reading "Wallis on Love" but I'll check out the one you mentioned.

@aliciab4236 9 ай бұрын

@@cliftafrizzell4687 Wallis In Love by Andrew Morton? That's in my to be read pile. I buy books faster than I can read them. Are you enjoying it?

@aliciab4236 9 ай бұрын

@@thatsfunny2051 Do you have any other suggestions for books on the Windsors?

@flyonthewall8122 9 ай бұрын

Gah! So many books & not enough lifetime lol My list gets longer & longer. I'm going to have to figure out how to prioritize.

@catb3173 9 ай бұрын

I too, would like to hear more about Wallis Simpson. She was clearly the brains of the outfit. David really seems to have been not just morally defective, but intellectually disadvantaged as well.

@scullygirl2046 9 ай бұрын

Thank you...I would have NEVER picked this book up on my own.

@ardendetweiler2607 9 ай бұрын

It's like an excellent bookgroup!

@catherinecashin 9 ай бұрын

This is my Sunday chill with a coffee before manic week ahead! A wonderful weekly treat ! 🇮🇪🇺🇸

@rikkiharcourt3868 9 ай бұрын

What is it with Royalty, they have everything money can provide yet they toy around with the extremes of human reproduction behaviour. To extremes! Maybe everyday poverty is not so bad after all.

@iwillstom 9 ай бұрын

Sexual immorality is most definitely not just the province of the affluent. They just have the means to facilitate their desires on a grander scale.

@cliftafrizzell4687 9 ай бұрын

@@iwillstom money and power doesn't change you, it just shows your real nature.

@biggiemama9443 9 ай бұрын

Reminds you of H&M. They needed all that house for 2 adults & 2 children only to have their dreams dashed & now having to downsize

@silva7493 9 ай бұрын

Lady Frieda was expecting her daughter to have a pearl necklace with with around 20 pearls from David (though easily fewer, depending how old she was when the custom started) after he'd given her one per year on her birthday till she grew up? LOl.. I hope they were very LARGE pearls. As entertaining and easy to listen to as you are, you must be a GREAT school teacher. A long, long time ago when I was in school, if a teacher was entertaining my attention was captured. Alas, there weren't many like that in my schools, it was also pre-ritalin et. al.. Most often my thoughts flew out the window after the first five minutes, no matter how hard I tried to restrain them from doing that.

@ardendetweiler2607 9 ай бұрын

SO agree about the politics of him getting married instead of sleeping with a divorced woman!

@ctlilbit 9 ай бұрын

Thank you Cheere Denise, you read so well and add so much to each chapter. I love it.

@susanmoorhead8762 9 ай бұрын

I always wondered if David and/or Wallis knew they would be in exile. They can’t go back to England! I wondered about children for the too. I’m not surprised that he was bisexual . Wallis grew up in Baltimore. She was with the 2 older women. Aunt Bess and other. I think she simply determined she wanted more. Not as crass as Meghan Markle but a similar situation. I have not read her biography for years. Probably should read it again. There certainly are a lot of bi-sexual or Gay. Oscar Wilde was pretty racy and coarse, but in the salon set in London. My life feels so Boringly upper middle class. Unsure how they determine economic class.

@elinstar6034 9 ай бұрын

I doubt if there is such a thing as a gilded stone bathtub in Bucks House. Sounds like Versace to me 😂

@tammybreeden8903 9 ай бұрын

Your right it is always morally wrong to have an affair. It’s heartbreaking to me. Possibly they justified it because often they didn’t marry for love. Maybe that’s why it happened so frequently.

@7jarrow 9 ай бұрын

Yes and it didn’t bother the present King and Queen that their relationship started as an affair.

@Terhi2023 9 ай бұрын

it actually started before either of them were married. But Charles didn't want to commit and Camilla went off to marry another man @@7jarrow

@MichelleFoster-bm9wz 8 күн бұрын

He doesn’t have a job just like Harry this is unbelievable. I’m so glad I tapped into this.

@Shellytrifle. 9 ай бұрын

Just popped up on my tablet, I'm going to watch you on my tv, ❤️❤️

@lisalivingston6473 9 ай бұрын

I think we're learning that David had a freak flag, and he flew it high and proud! Thanks for another great chapter!

@thatsfunny2051 9 ай бұрын

Here's the thing though. Wallis was still married when she started the affair with David. David concocted the plan to marry Wallis when she was still married. To be honest, I can see why the powers that be were like, no, we will not countenance you marrying a divorced a woman when you are the one who engineered her divorce to suit yourself. Shades of another King David and Uriah the Hittite.

@ardendetweiler2607 9 ай бұрын

Wallis's husband's reaction was not dissimilar to Queen Camilla' reactions come to think of it. It's like they both just stepped aside

@faithwalker6864 9 ай бұрын

I don't think it was about him doing the right thing by wanting to marry her. He was the head of the church of England & she was a divorcee. The church of England would never recognize the marriage b/c of her divorces. So he would then be bringing his mistress out into the public a his queen. The church could not allow it! I haven't had time to read this book yet, but does it talk about how parliament walked out on him? Had he not abdicated, he would have thrown England into chaos as a king without a government?

@avagrego3195 9 ай бұрын

I didn't know that abt parliment - thank you for this info

@milliemosehla6678 9 ай бұрын

Hello. It's nighttime and the end of a very busy day. I am exhausted and just laid down for the night. Listening to you is so calming and relaxing as well as funny..youn ewws and yucks made me laugh. Very enjoyable and entertaining the way you narrate and break down the lifestyle of this couple. The parallels with Hand M are astounding, ecen down to the way they used the press Thank you for sharing.

@kamirobey175 9 ай бұрын

No the brother being blackmailed was the youngest brother George, King George didn't take that name until he became King. Kind of confusing. As for Thelma Furness, she was the Maternal Aunt of Gloria Vanderbilt, Great Aunt of Anderson Cooper. There are so many stories about David's sexual conquests, when he was Prince of Wales, instead of greeting the hostess who was throwing a party for him, he instead was too busy carrying out the seduction of a local official's wife. When he received word that his father was sick and possibly dying, David shrugged and went on to spend the night and most of the day in bed, again, with someone else's wife. I've never heard the bisexual angle but considering that he and his youngest brother George (Not King George VI) ran with a crowd who slept with whatever and whoever struck their fancy, and who all indulged in rampant drug use, I guess it's possible. Prince George, actually went through detox with David there with him taking care of him. King George V, actually commended David for his loyalty to his family. David is a very confusing figure, because you're never 100% certain what his motives were for doing the things he did, both good and bad.

@elineman7 9 ай бұрын

“Whew, whew… ewwww”… my thoughts exactly on ‘baby talking’!!! 🤮 yuck. ♥️ this review; sending support your way.

@jmoore1939 9 ай бұрын

you make wallis come alive for me...excellent reading

@conniecooley5542 25 күн бұрын

“Middle class condescension!” Sounds like Markle.

@artemisjuno 9 ай бұрын

As far as 'Who's bringing in the money?', I hazard a guess that he probably had a huge stipend from his brother plus a large payoff when he abdicated. Possibly inherited money too.

@alisonvanschoor730 9 ай бұрын

I didnt think I could learn something new about the Windsors... but the children???? I had no idea he was spreading his seed hither and thither - Wow! Thanks for another brilliant episode xx

@ElsasPet 8 ай бұрын

Something that has always struck me when the comparison is made between the Windsors and the Sussex's is Frogmore Cottage. One couple is buried there and it's the other couples official residence in the UK as stated on the RF website (still current as of November 2023)

@j-pflaherty8357 28 күн бұрын

David may not have expected that he would not get his own way by threatening abdication. Possibly thought he could "have his cake, and eat it".

@vickiewallace4683 9 ай бұрын

It always makes me laugh. That these people" like CHARLES", talk about their love of GARDENING, when they don't do it; they pay people to do it for them !!😂

@krishnavyas313 2 ай бұрын

Charles did Gardening himself, Diana was frustrated that charles would rather do gardening than spend time with her. Charles has even wrote book on gardening.

@francoisehugonet7068 9 ай бұрын

Except for George V and George VI, they all had mistresses AND were head of the Church of England. Such were the times. Great video, thank you very much.

@meganpodesta9197 9 ай бұрын

I feel like a kid on Sunday waiting for my big treat.❤

@JuneMacCross 9 ай бұрын

It's hard to wrap my head around the level of debauchery. I'm grateful the branch of that family tree shifted to QEII. She had a much better moral sense of what the RF should represent.

@christineparckys3326 9 ай бұрын

Maybe they knew Walis had ties to Hitler and knew David was under her spell. He was also very easy to blackmail if Hitler wanted to show England what their King was really about. In those days his sexuality was a crime.

@elizabethroberts6215 9 ай бұрын

……Andrew Lownie’s book was SO good I bought my own copy after reading the one from the Library. The D o W had arrested development set at age 13. He was a very stupid man, BUT like the current ginger dipstick, he was extremely dangerous. Allegedly, he leaked the Allies’ plan for battle tactics’ against Germany, in France. If all was right, & proper in the world of justice, he should’ve been court-martialed for treason, found guilty of course, & shot by firing squad. But he was ‘protected’ by several high-up people, unfortunately. His removal from the British Throne was orchestrated by the A of C Cosmo Lang, the PM Stanley Baldwin, & the-then P of York, the former Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon. She was a narcissist, & hated Edward because he spurned her when they were younger. She set her cap at him because she wanted to be the Queen. She got the ‘spare’ instead, but still became Queen. To find out how horrible she was, read book, ‘The Queen Mother’ by Lady Colin Campbell. It’s more than an eye-opener into her horrid nature………

@hadargaller27 9 ай бұрын

The british royal family had A LOT of problem with the duke's behaviour. His parents the king and queen where very dissapointed of him and they said so. He could marry her, but it wouldn't be official, they didn't allow her to be the queen consort and that's what bothered him.