The Original SQ 5 Channel Amp? 1991 Soundstream MC245 Amp Dyno Test
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6 ай бұрын#ampdyno #vintageaudio #1990s
1991 Soundstream MC245 Five Channel Amplifier
Rated 35x4 at 4 ohms, 45x4 at 2 ohms or 90x2 bridged at 4 ohms
Plus 100W at 4 ohms or 140W at 2 ohms (sub channel)
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@SevereMkII 6 ай бұрын
I ran a pair of these on my front stage way back in the mid/late 90s, One amp per side, channels 1 & 2 powered the tweeters in the door, 3 & 4 ran the 5.25 mids in the doors and the sub channel drove an 8 inch bass driver in the kick panels. Sub Stage was 3 JL 10w6s on A Soundstream reference 10.0 all crammed in a prelude. One of my favorite and most reliable systems I ever had for all around listening
@michaelbloom5342 6 ай бұрын
This was my dream amp when it came out. Absolute dream.
@Juggernaut-fg2up 6 ай бұрын
Guaranteed sounds better than 95% of what's on the market today
@markhatcher4325 6 ай бұрын
I'll Smoke one to that
@markhatcher4325 6 ай бұрын
I gotta get my pq 5 fixed to run my front mid bass and tweet set
@Juggernaut-fg2up 6 ай бұрын
@@markhatcher4325 happy new year!
@markhatcher4325 6 ай бұрын
@Juggernaut-fg2up You too Brother
@JESUSISCALLINGYOU7 6 ай бұрын
I don't doubt it. It has been DECADES since I've heard nice SQ from other people's car stereos. To think back then little wattage yielded big, clear sound. Now it's impossibly loud sound but no fidelity at all, and I'm no audio snob.
@koprcord5338 6 ай бұрын
My brother had soundstream amps and while not brute power, they were clean and just smooth sounding.
@JESUSISCALLINGYOU7 6 ай бұрын
Yup. They played loud but not ear-piercing, and so clear and real.😢 I still have a Soundstream Angina in my closet. That thing is plenty loud to pound my chest and hurt unorotected ear drums.
@chrisbrownlee7754 6 ай бұрын
A lot of these expensive high dollar amplifiers didn't put out a whole lot of power because in the late 80's and early 90's speakers and subwoofers didn't need a whole lot of power to make them sound good or loud
@leroycolejr6626 6 ай бұрын
True statement
@user-mt9de5wt5y 6 ай бұрын
It was about THD back then the cleaner the sound the better. Just because they went beyond what we can even hear. But truly clean power sounds louder than the number denotes it as.
@derekgardin1512 6 ай бұрын
Speaker efficiency was alot higher
@JESUSISCALLINGYOU7 6 ай бұрын
Yup. A good 600W system back in the day was impressively loud and eye-wateringly clear. Nowadays, systems are so loud, concrete walls in houses rumble. I live in front of a main avenue, and some Jeep and Can-Am systems I hear for minutes before they finally drive by and hurt my ears even with the all the windows closed. No fidelity at all. Just immense, ungodly volume audible from miles away. Those people blast their unprotected ear drums with over 120 db for extended periods of time.
@user-mt9de5wt5y 6 ай бұрын
@@JESUSISCALLINGYOU7 and those drivers we're so crisp.
@xray111xxx 6 ай бұрын
i think that is pretty good performance. Remember this is an old amplifier and the caps probably flying higher ESR and caps probably out of specs too. But put back to specs probably perform as the manufacturer claims.
@matthewstorm5188 4 ай бұрын
Possibly, but probably not. Soundstream amps were known back then more for sound quality rather than brute strength. Hard to say whether recapping would help power output. But let’s just say that, on this channel, old fosgate amps (which WERE known for power) test well above rated power all the time despite not being recapped.
@ThickCutOhio 6 ай бұрын
Dropping the bangers one after the other!!!!
@jonesbrewer4398 6 ай бұрын
On page 227 of my 1992 Car Stereo Review buyer's guide in the test reports & user's evaluations index section it shows the results where they tested it, here's the numbers @ 12 volts 47.5 x 4 plus 129.5 x1.
@cueball981 6 ай бұрын
I bet replacing the caps and some of the other components would bring new life to this one.
@jonesbrewer4398 6 ай бұрын
I forgot to mention that was at 4 ohms and it was the July/August issue, it didn't have the 2 ohm numbers listed.
@wal2 6 ай бұрын
It’s likely they didn’t load all channels when testing and my tests show worst case scenario
@jonesbrewer4398 6 ай бұрын
Definitely possible that they didn't have all the channels loaded down.
@wal2 6 ай бұрын
And TBH most people would have LPF engaged on sub channel so the power supply would be less strained than having all channels loaded. Again my test was worst case and with speakers this amp sounded amazing and I was happy with bass output as well
@________GHOST________ 6 ай бұрын
Hands down this SQ 5ch amp is amazing/powerful one of my favorite amps back in the 90's yah buddy 🎉💯💪👍
@adampaffrath4299 6 ай бұрын
Love old soundstream and precision power stuff. Wish they were made like this now , sadly not . I do like some of the new stuff since it looks like the og amps
@adampaffrath4299 6 ай бұрын
Damn that 6.5 was slapping! You gotta bring back for 4 8s! Miss those bumpin!
@wal2 6 ай бұрын
They coming back with some other Savard’s too 👌
@91CavGT5 6 ай бұрын
The good ol’ days before MaxSonics came and made Soundstream and MB Quart flea market equivalent brands.
@miketaylor2197 6 ай бұрын
Epsilon bought soundstream. Maxxsonics bought autotek,hifonics etc
@91CavGT5 6 ай бұрын
@@miketaylor2197 thanks for the clarification
@Adam-nv9zo 6 ай бұрын
I'd love to see one of the good old amps tested and then recapped and tested again for comparison. That could potentially be interesting.
@e28powerm30 6 ай бұрын
Agreed, aged components could be a factor.
@konfyoused 6 ай бұрын
I used to have one of those, years ago. I dont know if mine was an older model, or if that one was, but mine had 3 separate circuit boards in it, instead of one large one.
@miketaylor2197 6 ай бұрын
You had the older version
@ehrenkrause9861 6 ай бұрын
I'll tell you those soundstreams never get old looking at. I was never able to get a US 365 to complete my set
@rlg222 6 ай бұрын
I loved Soundstream MC's back in the day! I remember a friend had one of these and Soundstream subwoofers in his bedroom. I believe the subs had a paper cone and the bass was so smooth...
@cueball981 6 ай бұрын
Back in the day, I ran a MC245 running 2 component sets of Altec Lansing M625/TW2 with the paasive crossovers and 2 JL Audio 10W1 subs in a 4th order bandpass enclosure. That system didn't get super loud, but damn it sounded so clean!
@1ufcfanatic795 6 ай бұрын
I’ll bet it did, that’s an impressive system!
@houseofpain3580 6 ай бұрын
lol Wonder 5: 4 x 40, 1 x 200
@cueball981 6 ай бұрын
@houseofpain3580 all the drivers in that system had high sensitivities, so didn't require a ton of power.
@1ufcfanatic795 6 ай бұрын
I had a reference 405 first series back in the day. It was very clean.
@cueball981 6 ай бұрын
@1ufcfanatic795 I still own a D200ii, D100ii, and 3x D60ii. Currently packed away in my closet. Someday, I'll have them all recapped and then put them up for sale. My current system in my '19 Ram 1500 runs 2x Alpine PDX-V9. Love how small they are while putting out 4x100/1x500 each.
@raymo6795 6 ай бұрын
...keep in mind, this amp is 33 years old, and probably some watts left in time. I believe this amp was designed by Nelson Pass, and modified by the late , great Wade Stewart.Wade designed the "Reference" series, which are some of my all time favorites.Wade designed all other Soundstream amps until around 2000, when they were sold to a Chinese conglomerate, and have never been the same. But Soundstream made some of the all time best and over the top, hand made in the United States amps ever made....I have about 20 of their classics, they are my favorites. Thank you so much Big D for the trip down memory lane in the last week of 2023...( it is New Years Eve, and I am tuned to your channel rather than getting loaded) Peace to you Brother and have a happy 2024....I look forward to whatever you bring me, Your the man Big D, Happy New Year My Friend
@AllboroLCD 6 ай бұрын
Still lovin the content Big D, keep it comin in 2024 brotha! From what little ive read, Soundstream was considered kinda top shelf going back. They even had a full home audio lineup at one point. Hope to see more old school brands, I know your gonna come across an 80s/90s Altec Lansing amp eventually!
@kennypinkerton5818 6 ай бұрын
I remember ordering the reference 700 at my local shop, as i saw the first ad for it. 3 months later, i finally recieved a reference 1000. I used it for a few weeks, and it burned up. Sent it back through a different dealer, and they sent me back a 1000s with the windowed caps. That thing was a monster that never died. It ran 3 JL Audio 12w6 subs... and at some point, a single rockford fosgate series 1, 15 inch in a huge sealed box. In my 1995 Nissan 240 SX, with the "Teamstream" sticker across the top of the windshield.
@550n440 6 ай бұрын
I bought one of these with the sub channel blown up, I always wondered how it would’ve done. The other four channels still worked, it was a great mid Amp.
@embiggens1 6 ай бұрын
One of my favorite systems I heard as a teen in the 90s hanging out at car audio shops ran two of these. I know, rose colored glasses, but in my memory it was fantastic. Good memories.
@SDS-1 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for all the videos this Christmas
@Welcometofacsistube 6 ай бұрын
Great amps. Great company
@georgebaloian8272 6 ай бұрын
Finally!! I have a brand new 2nd gen 245 and this video is awesome! Didn’t know how these amps were! Thanks
@user-pg8db8yj3e 6 ай бұрын
Very Nice. What a treat this week , an amp every day. Memories for some and dreams for others. Thanks and Happy New Year.
@brianglaze2414 6 ай бұрын
Big D! Awesome series of videos man. It is so fun to see these throwback amps, and see how they perform. Happy New Year!
@wal2 6 ай бұрын
Thanks bro! Still one more!
@brianglaze2414 6 ай бұрын
@@wal2 I have my fingers crossed that I might know what amp is coming!
@JESUSISCALLINGYOU7 6 ай бұрын
Awww, you keep doing the old school thing!!! 😭 YOU ROCK! Happy New Year!
@m3rdpwr 6 ай бұрын
I still have my a/d/s PH15. 6x50 watt amp that i had in my old Monte and Cutlass. It's been sitting for a long time, back in the box, since i pulled it.
@thetruth4519 6 ай бұрын
Your videos make me happy. I watch all of them.
@wal2 6 ай бұрын
Your comments make me happy 😃
@Wolverines1 6 ай бұрын
Beautiful specimen. 👍🏼 Great to see the bookshelf w/ sub section and different music. SS’s of this series (D’s & MC) sound soooo good. I’d not hesitate to run them in my home audio rig. 👌🏼👍🏼
@Not.The.Avg.Smitty 6 ай бұрын
Had one, finally Cooked it, went out got a Rubicon 1002 to power the 3 jl w6 back in the day!
@SuburbanBBQ 6 ай бұрын
I always thought that line was beautiful. When I think Soundstream, this is one of the amps I think about.
@Mr1p0d 6 ай бұрын
Happy new year!! I do love all vintage stereo stuff especially on what was used at cars such as this amp and more and I've been wondering if you would also review vintage head units that can be connected to those amps to see how it was done back in time while playing those same tracks that are just so good Cheers!!
@kurtbrisch5776 6 ай бұрын
I had a D60II running a pair of kappa 6x9 2ways and RF punch 75 bridged to a single RF 15 sub in a large ported box in a '81 rabbit. I hit a 132.8db at a local sound-off competition.
@jasonnelson6624 6 ай бұрын
I also had D60II but it was running image dynamics 5.25 and a class A50 running a set of image dynamics horns. Zed feed the image dynamics two 12. In my other car I ran ppi arts to infinity Kappa 6.5 comps and kappa 6x9 3way. Just curious if your kappa"s where the green cones?
@kurtbrisch5776 6 ай бұрын
@@jasonnelson6624 I think they were light grey if I recall, that was more than 30 years ago so I could be wrong. In a later car I had the kappa perfect 6.1 comp set running off of a 115 wpc RF power series amp, I forget the model # and 2 kappa 10's each getting 275 watts of RF power series as well..
@jasonnelson6624 6 ай бұрын
@@kurtbrisch5776 if you had the green you would know it and remember they stood out that much. The perfects were nice. The green cones ran from like 1996-1999.
@mihaibalint8183 6 ай бұрын
something is wrong, you upload every day an old school amp video and still not talking about new year? well I wish you the best for you and your family! Happy new year to all of you on this channel!
@Outty5000Hertz 6 ай бұрын
He said he was doing an old school series of amps into the new year
@derekgardin1512 6 ай бұрын
Maybe these were made a while back and he just didn't release them at the time
@misterhat5823 6 ай бұрын
Fixed quite a few of these things back in the day.
@M.B.Enclosures 6 ай бұрын
I had this amp and the Continuum as well
@TSC-Detroit 6 ай бұрын
Your on fire 🔥
@r3d-1truth17 6 ай бұрын
Hello again Mr Williston… thank you & happy new year/merry Xmas! I would like an education on how speaker impedance rise impacts an amps performance? From watching videos, mainly yours and couple others, it’s been revealed that speaker impedance changes and the coils move thru the magnetic fields. And using the data you provide about how an amp’s power rating is recorded at a stagnant or constant impedance, how does that work for the system when the speakers don’t have a steady resistance? As always, I love the information you provide, and can’t wait to see what you bring us in the new coming year. Have a great one! Cheers
@jeremyscottloftis5108 6 ай бұрын
Just want to let you know for next time. You only need the right channel rca's loaded when running bridged on the mains. I just finished one I am about to post up. So, you may of only been hearing it in mono. I use channel 4 as my right rca and channel 2 as my left rca input. Good work sir.
@1masonking 6 ай бұрын
That amp paired with a top of the line clarion head unit produced the cleanest power money can buy i still have both in like new condition they were only used for a couple months the amp is in original box which also is in new condition
@jasonmitchell8883 6 ай бұрын
when quality actually mattered, soundstream was an amazing brand
@johndilauro7253 5 ай бұрын
I have bench tested Soundstream amplifiers back in the day . I will say this ! They always made rated power .But that was about it . They were not like a Punch 45 or 150 That would do 2-3 times their rates power Soundstream wasn’t known for power or SPL .They were made strictly for SQ . The amplifiers did have a lot control When it came to speakers So they sounded really good
@johnebuckland 5 ай бұрын
Nice looking amp. I guess the performance is about what you would expect
@Budicles 6 ай бұрын
I wanted one of those back in the day Yeah Boi
@rattlejuggalo13 6 ай бұрын
I had a Reference 405. Got it used. Used it until it broke. Even though it was a low power amp, i still had to disconnect one of my subs because it was very loud
@TheKingme06 6 ай бұрын
Love your channel!!..who sings that Jamaican song you play in your demo's? Sounds like Bob Marley..thanks bro..keep it up!!
@davidallison976 6 ай бұрын
Loved them in the day! Great SQ for the day! Similar to A/D/S! Man I hate all the 80’s & 90’s high end stuff the industry screwed up! Example: MB Quart, Orion, Boston!
@wormjohnson2348 6 ай бұрын
I loved the 2005 model Rockford fosgate t models and The old hifonics cyclops and the old ppi amps
@stevencarlson5422 6 ай бұрын
Man if you had that setup back then your car would’ve bumped good that’s for sure
@SQ_og 2 ай бұрын
Man I listened to this in a shop in La Jolla. I ended up buying the a50 but this was nice.
@CUSTOMWORKS7.3PSD 6 ай бұрын
I have 2nd gen ref amps and 69sst in all doors just excellent sound Just went back to buy again they no longer have either. It really kills me when mfg's have great products then discontinue them
@rexpontiusful 6 ай бұрын
Awesome stuff. Please test kenwood KAC-1023 or 923 if you can find one
@doddgarger6806 4 ай бұрын
Love the ppi art series and the old mtx thunder series can't beat old school soundstream either
@saschacubexyz 6 ай бұрын
Happy New Year to all🥳🥳🥳🙋♂️ 👍🆙️
@fillo1971 6 ай бұрын
❤
@djadrian9318 4 ай бұрын
That big amplifier taking up all that space stressing the alternator and for what for only 100 Watts I never owned a Soundstream in the 80s or 90s but all the car audio people used to say it was a great amplifier I stuck to my MGT 2200 which still works to this day
@nunyabizznizz7326 6 ай бұрын
👍👍
@JustinGrosz 6 ай бұрын
When soundstream was respectable and who produced sought after products. Not the over inflated nonsense of todays brand.
@markroberts715 6 ай бұрын
Reminds me of adspq10 and pq20s
@jaz97 6 ай бұрын
Would love to actually hear in car demos/compare different amps. Don't you have a old school in garage?
@CedricFlavien-bd8vc 6 ай бұрын
Old,s cool 🎉
@sppb32 6 ай бұрын
They were good amps back then, very clean sound, but on the 600 Watts+ pro category they could not compete with the Phoenix Gold MS series.
@CandBLawnCare 6 ай бұрын
I had a limited edition chrome plated soundstream continuum 5 channel back then. Omg bringing up some old memories.
@hectorortega9131 6 ай бұрын
As long as i got around 60 watts on my front stage and 100 on my Sub but super clean, Im good...
@stevo3175 6 ай бұрын
Any earthquake amps to test?? PA. Series?? Thanks!!
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt 6 ай бұрын
I've said this before but I guess it needs repeating, the longest dimension is always the length not width, not height and not depth. 😉
@ksavage681 6 ай бұрын
Did ya'll notice? When this baby hits 88, you're gonna see some serious shit.
@jessen007 Ай бұрын
Any chance you could test out the sound stream tarantula 1600.2 or 500.4 series
@wal2 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
@victorlambertt4662 6 ай бұрын
Now back in the days that was a strong app dependent on the one you got
@randommkeyz5029 3 ай бұрын
Can you please do the nakamichi PA304?
@wal2 3 ай бұрын
I will eventually. Don’t have one ATM
@gaffle-411 6 ай бұрын
I remember these were known for clarity… not for bass output.
@gaffle-411 6 ай бұрын
7:24 “Manufactured in USA”… don’t see that anymore. 😅
@only126db 6 ай бұрын
Everyone wanted it, nobody could afford it
@matthewstorm5188 4 ай бұрын
Soundstream amps were never known for making power.
@shawnsatterlee6035 6 ай бұрын
Cool... actually play something different other than same music which is tired
@nighttow8780 6 ай бұрын
Can we make it 365 days of old school amps?
@wal2 6 ай бұрын
I wish man. Took me 120hrs to make 8 vids
@nighttow8780 6 ай бұрын
@@wal2 wow. That's dedication bro. Well done
@mihaibalint8183 6 ай бұрын
so, there is 1 more today?
@wal2 6 ай бұрын
Tomorrow, New Years Day and it’s a big dawg!
@491Mystic 6 ай бұрын
Isn't this Williston Audio Labs channel
@derekgardin1512 6 ай бұрын
This is the same guy but this is Old School Stereo. This channel has the older amp tests. Williston Audio Labs does newer stuff
@wal2 6 ай бұрын
I run both channels 👌
@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r 6 ай бұрын
Is it just me or does the sub look out of phase?
@bigdogbrodavepresents6178 6 ай бұрын
Installed a few of these back in the daze... CLEAN INSTALLS in High Budget Cars. BDBD/2024
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