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The beautiful ancient site of Machu Picchu is one of the most famous places in the world, yet it's origins are shrouded in uncertainty and the unknown.
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@UnchartedX
@UnchartedX 4 жыл бұрын
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@CaliforniaCarpenter7
@CaliforniaCarpenter7 3 жыл бұрын
Howdy, Uncharted, great video and thank you for making it. I’m a recent subscriber, and I am curious where you get the information that the human race goes back 300,000 years? I ask, because I’ve always encountered The number 180,000 years in my research, and I am very compelled to learn more.
@UnchartedX
@UnchartedX 3 жыл бұрын
@@CaliforniaCarpenter7 recent (ish) morocco find, it was all over the news, and i covered it in a couple of videos.
@CaliforniaCarpenter7
@CaliforniaCarpenter7 3 жыл бұрын
@@UnchartedX Excellent, thanks for the response!
@PhoenixLyon
@PhoenixLyon 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work! Subbed.✌😺
@brendenleonard6843
@brendenleonard6843 2 жыл бұрын
You homie. I only know because I went there. But it’s call “ oh-yawn-te-tom-bo.” I’m jealous though the day you went to Peru the weather seemed perfect!
@bp4682
@bp4682 4 жыл бұрын
This is the reason why this chanel beats all the rest..... Good long content and not 5 to 8 minute teasers ❤️👍
@garypaterson5601
@garypaterson5601 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed brian
@freelifetas1252
@freelifetas1252 4 жыл бұрын
I have told Ben that he is a presentational genius. He doesn't agree but I'm glad you guys do.
@UnchartedX
@UnchartedX 4 жыл бұрын
@@freelifetas1252 Thanks for the compliment, I always have room to improve....
@murderparker7968
@murderparker7968 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree. The longer the better. I usually won’t even bother playing a video that’s less than twenty minutes long(excepting cf-apps’ videos) because it seems unlikely there will be enough depth or detail contained therein to actually provide me anything new to chew on.
@michael4250
@michael4250 3 жыл бұрын
5 to 8 minutes of sightseeing without asking any real questions.
@FirelordRob76
@FirelordRob76 4 жыл бұрын
you're quickly becoming a major pillar of this deep history community. love the videos and your insights.
@kevink.7597
@kevink.7597 4 жыл бұрын
UnChartedX is fast becoming one of my few go-to sources for Free-Thinkers at work. Keep killing it with facts. I'll keep watching them over and over again. It is great to see the truth coming to the light. Thank you for supporting them.
@RandalDWall
@RandalDWall 4 жыл бұрын
Very well edited.. Good content. You will continue to have my support. Randal Wall
@antonmihajlov5322
@antonmihajlov5322 4 жыл бұрын
Thats a product of his great effort and determination
@iandalziel7405
@iandalziel7405 4 жыл бұрын
@AB. B. - define 'everyone'?
@Stewart638
@Stewart638 4 жыл бұрын
Thus guy doesn't have a clue what he's talking about no idea not even close.just keeps saying over and over I have no idea who built it.WTF. he called the video the origins of Machu Picchu and then said for 15 minutes he had no idea on the origins of Machu Picchu. This man is an idiot not a pillar.
@anthonyreed6166
@anthonyreed6166 4 жыл бұрын
45:37 when you point the camera down, water is still flowing through the stones. Thousands of years old, and the plumbing is still functional. Amazing
@theodoresmith5272
@theodoresmith5272 3 жыл бұрын
Most of the water works were around long before the inca. The wari people did a lot of it. The people by lake titicaca had moved big stones for centuries before too. The earliest civilizations in the Americas, the caral, built pyramids about the same time as the Egyptians and the found a 5000 year old irrigation ditch and one that might be 6700 years old. The site is about 60 miles from lima. I spent 2 months in Peru and 5 in South America. The list of pre inca civilizations in Peru is amazing. Look up paracas, mochi, Chan Chan, wari, and chachacoya just to name a few. Inca didnt start til 1250ad. I went to tombs outside cajamarca that were from 1000 B.C.. The amazing thing is several tribes were living plus 10,000 feet.
@brianmcleod1683
@brianmcleod1683 3 жыл бұрын
@@theodoresmith5272 amazing
@geraldineburns1619
@geraldineburns1619 3 жыл бұрын
I did the Trek in 2006. Our group visited a newly discovered Village on the way. But it meant we were covered in Mud and dirt getting there. On the 3rd day entering Machu Picchu, we weren’t very clean but Elated. Seeing tourists arrive from the bus, super clean, I wasn’t jealous. I’m sooo glad I did it the hard way, taking in the paths and routes of the ancient way,
@JF-vr2xz
@JF-vr2xz 4 жыл бұрын
Ben, another brilliant video, you produce the best history documentaries I have ever seen (I have watched A LOT over the last 5/6 years) in terms of production, content and most importantly how engaging they presentation is, don't change and keep doing what you do! You are brilliant mate, you should have way more subscribers and I really hope you get the credit, recognition and traction you need to do this full time! You obviously have respect in the community as well judging by the people you have interviewed on your channel so far (Hope there are more to come aswell) so again keep doing what you're doing and please keep up the amazing work!
@lyness1217
@lyness1217 4 жыл бұрын
It's gotten to the point where I just like these vids even before I've watched it. Content is always A*
@murderparker7968
@murderparker7968 4 жыл бұрын
Lyness121 I just liked the video within three seconds of having hit play, then came down here and this was the first comment I read. Ben has clearly created the perfect recipe for sating the appetites of independent history research fanatics, and he just keeps slinging dishes from his kitchen into our dining rooms.
@The_Raven_
@The_Raven_ 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@lyness1217
@lyness1217 4 жыл бұрын
@@murderparker7968 very perfectly put! Exactly what I think too.
@mar24gel
@mar24gel 4 жыл бұрын
absolutely
@mojo1435
@mojo1435 4 жыл бұрын
Rare but for this channel absolutly true!
@Antonio_Zamora
@Antonio_Zamora 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent historical perspective, Ben. Thanks for the information about the Y-chromosome bottleneck at 40:30 and the link to the video. The effect of the Younger Dryas on the human population has not received the attention that it deserves, but our chromosomes have not forgotten.
@UnchartedX
@UnchartedX 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony! I meant to send you a note about that slide, but by the time I hit 'publish' on this it was 2am :) Your video on the bottleneck is excellent. Hope you're navigating the current chaos in the world without too much trouble!
@stuartculshaw5342
@stuartculshaw5342 Жыл бұрын
Human Reproductive Bottleneck, yes my word. The graph is absolutely compelling if correct. All of our history starts at the beginning of the huge peak on the right hand side. But look at all that human growth from 50 thousand to 8 thousand years ago. Wow
@robertomagnani8091
@robertomagnani8091 Жыл бұрын
Archaeological researchers often refuse to accept the occurrence of Younger Dryas impact and plain people had "forgotten" the oral traditions from ancestors, but the past can not be erased, it always remains some clue or hint here and there. One aspect that is often rejected is that many people have memories from the disaster, memories that emerge usually in dreams, recurrent dreams. Other times the rememberings come back in regressions. Whether a person remembers or not, the trauma inside can not be dismissed, and remains all the time in the subconscious, guiding us even when we "don't remember". The study of the archaic past will be improved when science begin to accept the importance of the memories that all of us have inside.
@jmbreece
@jmbreece Жыл бұрын
Look for the book titled "traced , human DNAs big surprise" by Dr. Nathaniel Jeanson. He uses Y chromosome comparisons to trace the trees of people groups comparing that with the development of languages and migration patterns, which all line up remarkably well.
@algorn5477
@algorn5477 4 жыл бұрын
I can not help but laugh , I am enjoying the guides Story and watching the background taking in the sights and at 12 mins in like a Peruvian Legend Brien Foerster arises out of no where. The man is like Beetlejuice you just have to say Machu Picchu 3 times and he appears.
@crashandburngaming5103
@crashandburngaming5103 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, he is a legends for his knowledge and has been there more times than just about anyone around.
@mikehipps1015
@mikehipps1015 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that as well but it was the person on the left that caught my attention. I had to play it several times but I'm almost certain that they covered their face once they noticed that the camera might have been on them. I may be seeing things but it just looks comically suspicious! I was so focused on them that it kinda startled me when I saw Brien.
@brianmcleod1683
@brianmcleod1683 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao that’s hilarious! Machu pichu, Machu Pichu, Machu piiiiii.....
@blex5579
@blex5579 2 жыл бұрын
proabbly because he was invited by Foerster... that said, Foerster is a prime ahole...as witnessed again in this document...leaves the guide no space whatsoever...
@bondenjongen
@bondenjongen 2 жыл бұрын
Bro u so high
@wickedliquid1177
@wickedliquid1177 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video brother. You're definitely my new favorite channel on this subject. Keep up the good work man. We all really appreciate it especially at a time like this when I'm layed off from both my jobs and stuck in the house do to this Corona virus mess..thanks again..👍👍👍👍
@goldschadt
@goldschadt 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget, these people had music - also. Drums, flutes, string instruments and dances...beautiful!
@JustinOpinionChannel
@JustinOpinionChannel 3 жыл бұрын
I'll say it again - my new favorite channel. Binging the hell out of it. Your content is spectacular, and your attitude rocks!
@jimmygervaisnet
@jimmygervaisnet 4 жыл бұрын
I can't thank you enough for this wonderful virtual tour. Breathtaking landscapes and impressive stone work.
@elultimopujilense
@elultimopujilense 4 жыл бұрын
Man, you are just an awesome investigator. This is one of the best channels of youtube in my opinion. Thanks for always giving us a thorough investigation of these ancient misteries. There is so much we dont know about our ancient past, so much to discover!
@jackflash6377
@jackflash6377 Жыл бұрын
I spent 14 months in Peru. Visiting many of the megalithic sites as well as the Nazca lines and other "lines" that are in Peru that I have never seen mentioned. My overwhelming feeling is that there was a much more advanced population who created the megalithic sites. I also have the distinct impression that most of the ruins were in place when the Younger Dryas happened. I recently read that there are craters in South America that can be attributed to the Younger Dryas. It was with great sadness that I left Peru. wonderful people, magical place.
@TruthWiz
@TruthWiz Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this excellent comment. I can only imagine how wonderful that country must be. I would love to travel there in the future. I'd love to hear about where those other "lines" are. Best to you.
@jackflash6377
@jackflash6377 Жыл бұрын
@@TruthWiz The other "lines" that I saw that no one talks about. I was in the city of Piura and had met a Briton who was living there with his Colombian wife. We were going to the beach and he was taking a "short cut" that was basically a dirt track. As we were riding along I noticed we drove over something that I immediately identified as a "line". It was typical.. small stones on either side creating a border, center was about 8 to 10 meters wide and devoid of stones and vegetation, also, it was arrow straight as far as I could see in either direction. The area was far from any town, civilization or even houses as that is a very thinly populated area of Peru. My host took me to several others like the one we first saw. He said they are scattered around and he never paid attention to them until I came along. I left Peru with one small piece of pottery. Is it real Inca? At the time I was told that the test was to scratch the bottom with a brass key. If the brass came off, it was real, if it scratched the glaze, it was fake. I've tried that test many times and the brass always gets left on the glaze and when you wipe the brass off, there is no sign of the scrape.
@mjsphonefreefriday3994
@mjsphonefreefriday3994 Жыл бұрын
I'm jealous that you have been there! Wish I could afford to take that trip!😎
@TruthWiz
@TruthWiz Жыл бұрын
@@jackflash6377 Thank you so much for your reply. I didn't see it till now. Fascinating stuff... I have family that lives there. Perhaps I'll be able to check it out someday.
@TheAverageGamer1
@TheAverageGamer1 Жыл бұрын
​@@jackflash6377 any chance you could post a video of the case? I'm not saying your being dishonest or anything but I'm still new to the ancient history community and I'm hungry to learn as much as I can.
@impotentdog
@impotentdog 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the research you are doing! Tour vids are crisp and clear, the narration, i can tell is so well thought out! Iv watched every single one of them lol. And again and again. THANK YOU!
@robertmoon9423
@robertmoon9423 4 жыл бұрын
You deserve your own tv show. Not because you need it but you would be fully funded to do more amazing work. Great job👍
@DavOlek_ua
@DavOlek_ua 4 жыл бұрын
Across all youtube this is the most solid foundation I can get in preparation of visit the site on my own. Thank you for your work!
@benisaten
@benisaten Жыл бұрын
You never disappoint. Absolutely fascinating. Ive been wondering about things like this since I was young. Always thought our history is so much more amazing and unimaginable than what weve been led to think. Can't wait to learn more. Your work is much appreciated. Cheers!
@lancelotdufrane
@lancelotdufrane 4 жыл бұрын
I cannot tell you, how much, I enjoyed this!.... absolutely incredible!.... beautifully done, in every way. ... those mountain paths are something! I almost feel as if I’ve really seen it. Utmost Thanks.
@nicksothep8472
@nicksothep8472 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, great work as usual. I don't think most people realize the sheer amount of work that's behind the production of such a quality documentary. Knowing the subject I can honestly say you are one of the best content creators of the next generation of serious independent researchers. I wish you all the best to create a well deserved career out of this.
@j.osborne4914
@j.osborne4914 4 жыл бұрын
Foersters chin is of megalithic construction
@Cheesusrice69222
@Cheesusrice69222 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao!!!
@norman26c
@norman26c 4 жыл бұрын
Bruv
@SimonEkendahl
@SimonEkendahl 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it’s sturdy
@dannyboywhaa3146
@dannyboywhaa3146 4 жыл бұрын
Very indo-european lol... it’s a fine chin to complement a fine nose!
@AB-wg7qe
@AB-wg7qe 4 жыл бұрын
mic drop!
@benisaten
@benisaten Жыл бұрын
Can only imagine what all of these amazing sites used to look like during their early years. Fascinating!
@carolelerman9686
@carolelerman9686 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant filming and narration. Bravo UX !!!
@ashmash1934
@ashmash1934 2 жыл бұрын
As a smoker I found I suffered far less from the altitude than all my friends. I literally ran the whole way up and was the first person to get up there that morning, before the turnstiles were even open. I ran in and got enjoy a full half hour on my own with no one in sight. Highly recommend any visitors put the effort in to running up there to be the first in. Getting the whole place to yourself for any period of time is magical!
@libertyblueskyes2564
@libertyblueskyes2564 Жыл бұрын
In my time as a x ray trainee in a hospital, our group was taken to an autopsy room where a body was opened at the chest. The lungs were shriveled and black as tar and it was explained to us that the woman was a heavy smoker.
@ashmash1934
@ashmash1934 Жыл бұрын
​@@libertyblueskyes2564 Well yes, smoking will do that. I'm pretty sure everyone knows that without having to work in medicine. Have you ever looked at the warnings on tobacco products? They're covered with such images. I wasn't suggesting smoking was healthy. I was pointing out that smokers are far better at altitude because they're bodies are adapted to coping with less oxygen (bc their lungs are black and nasty). So, when it comes to places like Machu Picchu the smokers find it far easier up there than non smokers (counter intuitively). My marathon running friend was minutes behind me and I am not fit (obvs, being a smoker). This isn't an anecdotal example, it's a pretty well-known fact. /shrug
@TheGreyGhost_of43rd
@TheGreyGhost_of43rd 5 ай бұрын
​@@libertyblueskyes2564fake news
@TheSpecialJ11
@TheSpecialJ11 5 ай бұрын
That's pretty funny, if a bit tragic. Your lungs are always on "hard mode" so low oxygen wasn't that big of a deal for you.
@ashmash1934
@ashmash1934 5 ай бұрын
@@TheSpecialJ11 Yes, the body adapts. A smoker has to get used to less oxygen, so at altitude not smoking (for a smoker) is much the same as normal altitude with a cigarette. I don't actually smoke cigarettes any more though. Machu Picchu was 20 years ago for me. I smoke a pipe nowadays and I don't really inhale it, so I'm a lot healthier than most people, who don't live an active lifestyle in the country with a healthy home grown/cooked diet. My pipe pales in comparison to the carcinogenic effects of processed food and a sedentary city lifestyle drowning in a fog of pollution.
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 4 жыл бұрын
Blown away that such a balanced, well studied video popped up in my feed. Major props to you for the expanse of your study and absolute fairness in giving people credit where it's due. Just. Wow. Thank you. And subbed. 🙋🔭🌌 Paz y luz
@spiderlady1943
@spiderlady1943 4 жыл бұрын
Pardon an old woman's cynicism but I reckon an examination of the contents of the Vatican library would yield a great deal of information on the origins of this stunningly beautiful site!
@juniorballs6025
@juniorballs6025 4 жыл бұрын
Those historical records would view South America through the lens of the conquistadors, so they would more or less reflect what is treated as truth today.
@spiderlady1943
@spiderlady1943 4 жыл бұрын
@@juniorballs6025 I was thinking more of native South American records - not those of the conquistadors
@briansutton2176
@briansutton2176 3 жыл бұрын
Probably just a list of Incan boys that claimed to be molested by priests.
@ronbowman4145
@ronbowman4145 3 жыл бұрын
@@spiderlady1943 Well South American records wouldn't be in the Vatican, only Catholic. Besides this deals with things that happened thousands of years before any Catholics even existed and they would completely deny any of this because it doesn't fit their lies.
@spiderlady1943
@spiderlady1943 3 жыл бұрын
@Sparky Runner I sometimes feel so angry about the huge deceits which have been perpetrated on the human race by those who select themselves to be the keepers of our spiritual selves!
@fysalsafieh5402
@fysalsafieh5402 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, just discovered your channel.via Ancient Architects' channel and fortunate I have. Thanks again.
@adrianstefan5418
@adrianstefan5418 4 жыл бұрын
Top video, I'm glad I found you. Shared
@carldevries9108
@carldevries9108 4 жыл бұрын
Man I love your camera work! You show these incredible sites more clearly than others. It is so obvious that the Incas could not possibly have built it all. Plus you reference the work of older explorers who were less burdened by bias and not pushing a certain narrative. Keep up the good work.
@inmyopinion6836
@inmyopinion6836 4 жыл бұрын
Well done . Most informative and updated . I appreciate the Bingham quotes , in context .
@katep23
@katep23 8 ай бұрын
Such an interesting video, thank you. Looking forward to the next part too.
@blindspotspotter.2352
@blindspotspotter.2352 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Thanks for taking us along with you.
@xmozzazx
@xmozzazx 4 жыл бұрын
I had a really hard time following the dialogue with all the stunning scenery and views. I had to watch, constantly rewinding to catch back up in dialogue. Excellent position, AWESOME job in bringing this to everyone. Love it, always waiting for the next one! Cheers from Canada!
@SunflowerSunflower101
@SunflowerSunflower101 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Me too! And didn't mind all the rewinding at all! LOL
@tb9734
@tb9734 Жыл бұрын
I changed the speed setting to .75 and found it much easier to keep up without rewinding too much.
@lukepappe
@lukepappe 4 жыл бұрын
You killed it mate, the way you structured the video and explained the information was in a way that even a novice should be able to comprehend!
@sibyl9124
@sibyl9124 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing work on this video! Loved every second.
@Darignobullseye
@Darignobullseye 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video and commentary!! I appreciate it much
@lcmlcm2460
@lcmlcm2460 4 жыл бұрын
It never gets old looking at this place. Most people watching this video believe that the old megalithic structures were built much longer ago. Megalithic structures were built around the globe like we see here. Thank you for the videos
@sancho8521
@sancho8521 2 жыл бұрын
I concur; no way this is a mere 4 or 5 hundred years old. As far as that goes Praveen Mohan (not that he believes it) says just about all of the temples he shows us were built 800 yrs ago...
@oceanhart
@oceanhart 4 жыл бұрын
I'm giving this one a preemptive like. Can't wait to watch this one later!
@tomwhite4085
@tomwhite4085 4 жыл бұрын
Loved this video, facinating well researched and in depth detail 😁
@hankdapper8239
@hankdapper8239 4 жыл бұрын
Obvious hard work, dedication and passion. Thanks for these, you get me thinking and even sometimes arguing with you. Brilliant
@bobbyshaftoe45
@bobbyshaftoe45 4 жыл бұрын
That ancient origin story quoted by Hiram Bingham would be an interesting 'unpack' discussion of possible story lines or postulates
@SunflowerSunflower101
@SunflowerSunflower101 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! And comparing this to other stories of ancient peoples. The SYMBOLISM is the KEY in all ancient stories showing us energetic formulas, nature's principles, technological knowhow & spiritual principles of course -- all are the same thing!
@bobbyshaftoe45
@bobbyshaftoe45 4 жыл бұрын
@@SunflowerSunflower101 Graham Hancock dove pretty deep down that rabbit hole with America Before. It would be very interesting to hear his informal thoughts and speculation on this slice of the mystery.
@StoutProper
@StoutProper 4 жыл бұрын
Surely there has to be someone local who still knows that story and possibly more? Personally I'd trust the local historical account more than Wikipedia
@johncurtis920
@johncurtis920 4 жыл бұрын
It is becoming increasingly apparent that our globe-spanning civilization is but the latest chapter in a story going back far longer than we know. Would that we could read it from the beginning, eh? But I suppose that will never be possible. That story seems to have been written on an Etch-a-Scetch tablet. One that some past event shook to such an extent that almost all the story is gone. Only the megalithic bare bones remain. Even so whatever it was we humans built, it must have been utterly amazing in its fashion. To be able to work such wonders in gigantic stone (for instance), betray a civilization with a depth of knowledge that not only rivals all we know today, but also was knowledgeable in a fashion about things which we can't even dream because our ways blind us to other potentialities. Ours is a different kind of civilization. Nestled as we are within it we cannot see the way in which the past informed and shaped itself. But they were human. So we can learn from what we see; recognize its humanity and in so doing perhaps better inform our own future. We need to do this. It is a worthy task. Why? Because something happened to bring them all down. And if it has happened before, it can happen again. And the next time we may not be so lucky. So let's take what we know, try as best we can to understand what we've lost, and move outward in the Universe. Let's try to arrange to live and love, create, destroy and build as humans are wont to do for a span of time at least as long as the dinosaurs. Let's avoid another "reset." We do that, and then we can truly call ourselves great. John~ American Net'Zen
@johncurtis920
@johncurtis920 3 жыл бұрын
@Sparky Runner Well there's one additional thought I'd toss out for consideration about all of this. As powerful a civilization as we have built today, and it IS powerful to the point of having tossed our toys outward to beyond the orbit of Pluto, there is one aspect to our nature that is completely different from the ways seemingly expressed by those who came before us. Our civilization is one with the philosophy of constant renewal. We are in a constant state of change, in flux, building, tearing down and rebuilding again, and again, and again. It's ephemeral in that sense. We call this progress. But from that which we can see of what remains, the multiple hundred ton blocks. some intricately and precisely carved, and all the rest, it seems theirs was a civilization built on the idea of "Build it once, and build it to Last. Hopefully forever." It may not have been forever, but boy they gave it a good try didn't they? Even today we remain in awe of what was done. John~ American Net'Zen
@theodoresmith5272
@theodoresmith5272 3 жыл бұрын
Hard to know what happened in the upper northern hemisphere after the ice sheets destroyed any evidence 10,000 years ago.
@johncurtis920
@johncurtis920 3 жыл бұрын
@@theodoresmith5272: HA! Indeed. But one thing seems clear...at least from the bare bones of that which remains. Whoever they were, they were driven by a cultural ideology vastly different from ours. We today have created a magnificent civilization. One capable of throwing robotic craft out of the solar system, analyzing the sun up close, wander the surface of Mars, create many vast wonders here on planet Earth. Feeding, however improperly, our multitudinous Billions. Not only can we feed our numbers on this wee rock circling its fusion bonfire, we are capable of destroying all life on it. We can even see, and contemplate, all the way to the very edge of the observable Universe. We have far more power than the gods of our myths. But ours is a constant, churning, roiling mass of a civilization, and all of it we vaguely define as "Progress." We create, enhance, change, tear down and recreate, over and over and over again. Whoever they were they may have had similar aspects as us in this, but one thing seems clear. Foundationally speaking they must have been driven by a different guiding principle. One which, for lack of a better way of describing it, I define as "Build it ONCE, and make if last FOREVER." Well...maybe forever is a bit ambitious, though that sentiment is wholly ego driven hubris and decidedly human in its nature, but they sure gave it a good shot didn't they? We marvel at the remains even today. John~ American Net'Zen
@theodoresmith5272
@theodoresmith5272 3 жыл бұрын
@@johncurtis920 you do know human history is completely a store of conquering each other and in fighting. Nothing knew. The inca made subjects out of every other tribe in the region in less then 300 years. It wasnt a nice take over. They never are. Then they had there own civil war. Basically quito vs Cusco. Ask the chachacoya how they felt about it.
@theodoresmith5272
@theodoresmith5272 3 жыл бұрын
@Sparky Runner you do know 90% of the earth's life there wasn't ice on the poles? The Sahara was a jungle. I've been there. Marine fossils and jungle fossils are everywhere. Your also talking on top of or in the ice. I was talking about any settlements that millions of tons of ice for thousands of years would have crushed.
@patalbor3507
@patalbor3507 4 жыл бұрын
Have to say this video was excellent in both execution and content. Simply captivating. Great job Ben!
@roymason7892
@roymason7892 4 жыл бұрын
thankyou so much for your energy Ben...you have created a fantastic virtual tour..along with your brilliant historical research....
@iambyrdman
@iambyrdman 3 жыл бұрын
3:55 "Selfie sticks are a plague" You're funny. Thanks for all your precious time!!!
@gulfgypsy
@gulfgypsy 4 жыл бұрын
With each video, your talents as a documentary maker, grows even better. Seriously, I wish History channel would get in touch with you and work with you to create a series! Maybe even with Randall Carlson. Between the two of you, my way of looking at our world and its history has expanded so much. Thank you, Ben!! Stay healthy during this pandemic!!! Our world needs people like yourself, helping to open minds and encourage them to not accept being indoctrinated by the status quo.
@rpbajb
@rpbajb 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful country, nicely photographed. I can't wait for part 2.
@scottbowermaster2608
@scottbowermaster2608 4 жыл бұрын
You are doing a great job Ben! And thank you for all of the hard work you are doing!!!! ❤
@dakkefernet8585
@dakkefernet8585 4 жыл бұрын
I always get deeply emerged in your videos. The info, the theories and the overall atmosphere. Fuck me this is so great❤️
@stuffnuns
@stuffnuns Жыл бұрын
The huge stones, shaped to fit together without mortar, fascinates me. That stonework is practically identical to the stonework on other ancient sites around the world…There is so much we don’t know about pre-younger dryas civilization. That is, civilization before (supposedly) civilization began. We are at the verge of one of the greatest revelation of human history.
@ainsleystevenson9198
@ainsleystevenson9198 4 жыл бұрын
I've watched a lot of videos on Machu Picchu but yours is, as usual, the best!
@lyra2112
@lyra2112 4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating presentation Ben! I can't wait for Part 2.
@DavidHoshor
@DavidHoshor 4 жыл бұрын
As always, your content is first rate. I like your open minded approach to all the topics you cover. Keep up the good work.
@trismajistos7269
@trismajistos7269 4 жыл бұрын
Ben, your videos are impeccably presented and reflect a sincere quest for the Truth. Thank you for sharing your passion to explore and understand this megalithic wonders. We pray that you are safe in your travels and successful in your quest. Thank you again for bringing us along on the adventure.
@tomtom8995
@tomtom8995 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating. Comprehensive and well put together. I absolutely love this! Thanks
@iang1
@iang1 4 жыл бұрын
Just catching up seeing as part 2 is now out!, one word... fantastic!
@wegapaul3616
@wegapaul3616 4 жыл бұрын
Brian Forrester of 'hidden inca tours' makes a mysterious appearance right on the 12:00 min mark! thanks for sharing info about this magical place!
@zebratangozebra
@zebratangozebra 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine there was a grand palace resting on those massive stones and they were just the basement foundation.
@bobgarner396
@bobgarner396 4 жыл бұрын
One of your best videos yet, a great job
@brendaw.7597
@brendaw.7597 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video and commentary Ben. Thank you!
@scrube95
@scrube95 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, incredible production value! How do you not have more subs? Incredibly professional
@FirstDagger
@FirstDagger 4 жыл бұрын
28:40 Again those bumps consistent with Egypt and Asia.
@313barrygmail
@313barrygmail 4 жыл бұрын
Yes there are several people doing research ... On the so-called knobs or bumps..I'm always notice how he erratic they are so therefore they definitely can't be for lifting...
@MrSnafu-1973
@MrSnafu-1973 4 жыл бұрын
I believe those were the last attachment points before they were cut free.
@georgehrubec7107
@georgehrubec7107 2 жыл бұрын
Recently discovered this channel and I love the education I am getting from this Ben. Keep up the good work.
@georgejaparidze
@georgejaparidze 3 жыл бұрын
Good job Ben, always pleasure to watch your videos. 👍 BTW the fact that you often use the quotes from the original books, pictures, maps, etc are very helpful.
@Nicholas_Shaw.
@Nicholas_Shaw. 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent content. I ask myself why would they go to so much trouble to move stones of such proportion to the top of an opposite mountain. The concept is mind blowing.
@trueconspiracies7945
@trueconspiracies7945 4 жыл бұрын
Once again, excellent work. I sure wish there was way to determine who really built these megalithic structures and how. The mind wonders in crazy circles thinking of the possibilities.
@Good-Enuff-Garage
@Good-Enuff-Garage 3 жыл бұрын
no doubt, but keep in mind the landscape may have looked much much different back then, say they were built 4,000 years ago, maybe there was no valley and the stones could have just been slid down hill, maybe even over slipery ice in the winter time, who knows?
@BlackDawgMusic
@BlackDawgMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ben! Love your work. Really appreciate your attention to detail, honesty, and ability to weave the counter-narrative without trying to sound like all the facts are known. What we need is simply to admit how little we know! and then rigorously observe the evidence with open hearts & minds. Which it feels like you do. Appreciate you brother. Keep doing your thing!
@EMurph42
@EMurph42 4 жыл бұрын
Another beautiful video Ben!! You always show things I’ve never seen before.
@passerby9123
@passerby9123 4 жыл бұрын
In watching this video and from my own observations 25 years ago, the question arises who discovered,or even rediscovered what. To be clear, we are talking about the western world finding or being led to something that the locals already knew of, and so discovery in this sense is a narrow window of interest from the western worldthat has grown into a massive tourist trap today. 25 years ago, the Inca trail was affectionately known as the toilet paper trail, and as the local water sources became more and more poluted by interested westerners who stopped at trail camps overnight to eat meals washed in the local waters, so more and more toilet paper became dotted elsewhere all around the mountainsides. To be honest, I loved the place even in the rather shitty conditions described by the trail leading to it, but to talk of discovery is perhaps to recognise how people of the western world have acted, can't really say behaved, when visiting this sacred and already known of site. The one thing that the western world is good at is importing a lot of crap into parts of the world that are not able to deal with it, and it is this anality of intention when pursuing a spiritual purpose that I discovered in myself and in all of those who had arrived at Machu Pitchu seeking to broaden their own spiritual horizons after a lifetime of socially instilled self and other ignorance all of those years ago. The world is wonderful, and the western world always covers its wonders in crap with every discovery that its citizens make. Who can recall the Celestine Prophecy, with its search for enlightenment in Peru, and of course at Machu Pichu, and which of those spiritual seekers left their crap behind, scattered around for others to deal with. Toilet paper hoards, and hoarders of course, you can flush and walk away at home, or try to ignore what you are leaving behind when visiting or plundering amazing parts of the world, but real enlightenment comes when you look down and see what you are bringing to the feast of life, and then learn to clear up your mess and relate to the earth and eveyone on it, inluding yoursaelf, in different and humane way.
@StoutProper
@StoutProper 4 жыл бұрын
passerby great comment. Thanks for that. We can take some comfort that the site, trail and surrounding countryside are currently having some respite from Western crap, here and around the world. Kinda wish I was stuck at one, be nice to spend some time there without the tourists and the shite they leave behind
@CarolFremel-my4hs
@CarolFremel-my4hs 3 жыл бұрын
What makes you two so much more entitled than everyone else to enjoy this place?
@StoutProper
@StoutProper 3 жыл бұрын
@@CarolFremel-my4hs cos I'm not a mouth breathing litter lout who stares at my phone all day for a start
@passerby9123
@passerby9123 3 жыл бұрын
@@CarolFremel-my4hs Hi Carol, I can only answer your comment for myself, and yet to be honest, I don't understand what you are trying to say. I do not consider myself to be more entitled or even less entitled than any one else who wishes to comment on their own experiences, and so I find that your experience of what you seem to regard as my assesment of my own entitlement, as nore than that of others, is intriguiging and perhaps interesting. Can I ask you to read my comment again and to point out the " more entitled" bits, and I will try to rectify this possible oversight when commenting on anything else in the future. Thank you in advance for any help you can offer here, and I will look forward to perhaps learning something more from you about how my westernised brain has learnt to express itself.
@JasonECI
@JasonECI 3 жыл бұрын
Simply difficult to believe a civilisation without written language can have amazingly higher technology in almost impossible architecture.
@Nockturnmortem
@Nockturnmortem 2 жыл бұрын
Not written language known to Europeans and strangers. Same with mathematics. The thing is Inca people had famous architects. The amautas were capable to read the kipus and were the wisest af all man. They knew the secrets of the numbers and symbols. On your mind my ancestors were some kind of savages discovering everything WE know They built with their hands and hardworking. That's insulting. South american cultures were not savages but thriving people with so much knowledge our wise man used to be taken to mayan courts. We know the names of the four architects that built Saksayhuaman but alas because we today can't figure out how the Inca were capable of building such a wall well let's say the wall was still there and the poor Inca just found himself stumbling with its rocks 500 years ago. You know nothing.
@JasonECI
@JasonECI 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nockturnmortem people believe things based on what they know. If you believe your civilization is capable for those amazing achievement, present it to the world so people can admire it. Yelling 'you know nothing' doesn't help, but to deny what you wish the world to know.
@somerandomguy000
@somerandomguy000 Жыл бұрын
@@Nockturnmortem playing the offended and victim’s card convinces no one. For sure they were intelligent people but no enough to build those megalithic sites.
@RogueReplicant
@RogueReplicant Жыл бұрын
@@Nockturnmortem Most likely the ancient builders were also Native Americans from the area but they were not called Inca, they were just a previous as yet unnamed tribe. Kind of like ancient Maya and modern Maya. The former were great architects, mathematicians and astronomers but the latter just live there.
@Kissmyasinine
@Kissmyasinine Жыл бұрын
@@somerandomguy000 then who did?? magical aliens from the galaxy of andromeda??😂😂please! You guys love pulling that alien card with ancient civilizations because you somehow cannot fathom that they were intelligent enough to do build these wonders themselves! And even thought you’re agreeing with the fact that they were intelligent you’re saying they weren’t “enough” to build this. Humble yourself please!
@rtroyer8963
@rtroyer8963 10 ай бұрын
Great video Ben, and that hike on the mountain trail was incredible too! Excellent content and camera work as usual!
@pjqziggy
@pjqziggy 4 жыл бұрын
Fabulous camera work. Much appreciated.
@Comrade_Jason
@Comrade_Jason 4 жыл бұрын
If you get the chance, do the official Inca Trail to get to Machu Picchu. It's a 42km hike through the mountains along the same route and in some places even the same staircase the Incans used. Along the way there are a few settlements and barracks that you get to explore. Obviously not as impressive as Machu Picchu, but way fewer people around, and it's set in these misty mountains, it's a lot of uphill and downhill, carrying your backpack and sleeping bag and mat. Porters carry the rest of the camping essentials and food, and actually run ahead of you to prepare for lunch or set up a campsite.
@jiminycricket1710
@jiminycricket1710 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. Worth a bit of that stimmo money. Loved it Ben. Hanging out for chapter two! Has your Egyptian stone mason mate been to see it? Would get a kick out of hearing his reaction to Machu Picchu.
@UnchartedX
@UnchartedX 4 жыл бұрын
Yes Yousef has been to Peru. I believe he was greatly impressed. I think if you search Brien Foerester's channel you'll find some of the videos... I think.
@iandalziel7405
@iandalziel7405 4 жыл бұрын
@@UnchartedX "Foerester's" - ahem! Requires a 'vowel movement' - or as an Aussie-based mnemonic think of Brien *Foerster* drinking a 'Tooheys' rather than a 'Three Es' Though Uncharted (4) XXXX has a ring to it as you talk about 'castles' in the main...* :- ) The Pedant Patrol will now ride off into the sunset... *non-Aussies may struggle with this - bitterly.
@claudemontezin911
@claudemontezin911 10 ай бұрын
Awesome work! Yes, yours and that of he pre-inca denizens. You always bring a new light onto it. Cheers!
@JohnMarshall-NI
@JohnMarshall-NI 3 жыл бұрын
I am really grateful for your videos on this subject, which stand out as being very grounded in reality compared to most. Well done, and thank you!
@Antique803
@Antique803 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the large stones were floated across at a time when the world was mostly flooded with only the higher peaks above the water?
@57strub
@57strub 4 жыл бұрын
Thats funny.
@trimetrodon
@trimetrodon 4 жыл бұрын
Sunsettvu Until one knows how it was done, the methods used are mysterious. It is reasonable to consider any plausible possibility. It is worth noting early and persistent speculation that Lake Titicaca was once at sea-level. Darwin’s Geology of South America brims with his observations of raised shorelines. This video mentions limestones from nearby quarries and limestones are deposited in shallow water.... yet the quarries mentioned may also be 8000 ft above sea-level. Rapid uplift of the Andes seems like a possibility to me, so, to add my $.02, instead of hypothesizing higher sea-level, perhaps a more plausible condition is a much lower elevation of the Andes, but could they have been so much lower in the last 12K years? That is an extraordinary claim requiring extraordinary evidence.
@damienbull8160
@damienbull8160 4 жыл бұрын
No. That isn't the case.
@Antique803
@Antique803 4 жыл бұрын
phục êwê did you know that at onetime in our planet’s history it rained 24 hours a day for a million years?
@iandalziel7405
@iandalziel7405 4 жыл бұрын
@phục êwê - Nervous Thai sheep notwithstanding - the scale at which this early work was undertaken would not preclude temporarily damming a valley to facilitate transport across it (flattening the curve) - it needn't be right to the site - there is much that is possible - to quote the bard of Stratford-on-Avon "There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy" - indeed anything is possible, snickering blunts the sense of wonder... (IMHO)
@dritanbega6461
@dritanbega6461 4 жыл бұрын
You nailed this video brother. Awesome work, thank you.
@geoffallan3804
@geoffallan3804 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos. I am in awe of the detail you go into, and the video is breathtaking. Thank you for getting this information to the world.
@stevejory9679
@stevejory9679 4 жыл бұрын
So hard to comprehend how they moved and shaped the stone so perfectly with multiple facets.
@smnwbb
@smnwbb 4 жыл бұрын
Why?
@StoutProper
@StoutProper 4 жыл бұрын
Bill Boad tell us how they moved the stones down one mountain over a river and up the other mountain through the jungle with no trail?
@luishenriquez9823
@luishenriquez9823 4 жыл бұрын
@@StoutProper vibration
@StoutProper
@StoutProper 4 жыл бұрын
@@luishenriquez9823 they vibrated them there? I don't know what kind of toy your wife uses but as big as it is I doubt it would do the job
@jasonking1284
@jasonking1284 3 жыл бұрын
There were Jedi in those days....
@corvuslight
@corvuslight 4 жыл бұрын
It's 2:30 in the morning, what are you trying to do to me? 🤘🤘🤘 You rock, brother!
@UnchartedX
@UnchartedX 4 жыл бұрын
yeah it was a late one. I was hitting go as soon as it was done, I missed my deadline for this by about a week.
@corvuslight
@corvuslight 4 жыл бұрын
@@UnchartedX ...I'm positive that I'm not just speaking for myself when I say that it's always worth the wait. Also, in the future you can look back and be proud of your body of work not only for the content, but also the quality. You are, in my opinion, providing a valuable service to the field of ancient history whilst doing so in a reasonable and logical manner that elevates the entire endeavor. Well done, many thanks and rock on!
@trimetrodon
@trimetrodon 4 жыл бұрын
Another superb video. Thanks, Ben!
@paulscottfilms
@paulscottfilms 4 жыл бұрын
Extra good Ben, thanks for all your enthusiasm and strength of interest .
@armandovalmont9762
@armandovalmont9762 Жыл бұрын
Megalitchic structures all over the world appear to be from times we basically have no record of. In the case that those structures really are from 10.000+ BC, there also is the possibility that prehistoric animals where used in order to transport those stones. With the end of the "Ice Age" there seems to be decline in size of construction elements, which could be explained by the fact, that, from then on,only horses and oxes could be used to fulfill such tasks.
@antonmihajlov5322
@antonmihajlov5322 4 жыл бұрын
So you met with Brien Forester there? Very nice!
@iandalziel7405
@iandalziel7405 4 жыл бұрын
Nope, he met Brien *Foerster* :- )
@antonmihajlov5322
@antonmihajlov5322 4 жыл бұрын
@@iandalziel7405 Ah dang, there is a double secret in his names. Kinda weird!
@Carolevw
@Carolevw 4 жыл бұрын
As usual, excellent video Ben. Very detailed information of Macchu Picchu and I (we) love that you found that interesting story from Hiram Bingham on the megalithic builders. Well done!
@adityanharish6381
@adityanharish6381 4 жыл бұрын
Man your works are awesome and thought provoking. Keep researching, you’ll prove many things for sure
@freelifetas1252
@freelifetas1252 4 жыл бұрын
Great work as usual Ben. I just wish mainstream would give these ancient cultures the respect of believing their origin stories. It quit ridiculous to me that the stories told by these cultures make far more sense than anything the mainstream has hypothesized. Stay safe
@ancientalternativeview9011
@ancientalternativeview9011 4 жыл бұрын
Bravo Ben ... This is a fantastic account I still will always wonder who constructed the earlier more megalithic work that's what intregued me about the site so very much also the large nubs that can be found at the site also ... Well done mate this is probably my favourite account of the site ... Your commenters are correct you are becoming quickly one of the best in the business I'm so glad to have you as my friend ... All the very best for you at this tough time take care .Phil. one thing the hitching post of the sun do you think that could be star alignment maybe ? It's so strange and I agree the Inca seemed to build around it to preserve it more than anything just wondered your thoughts ?
@shermanatorosborn9688
@shermanatorosborn9688 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Phil The Hanan Pacha nubs of Peru are magnificent and I am not sure that they are found anywhere else ... I think we need to define and isolate them from Uran Pacha and see what that gives us .
@ancientalternativeview9011
@ancientalternativeview9011 4 жыл бұрын
@@shermanatorosborn9688 i agree with you 100 percent shermie I want to go when the current climate is better of course and take my own photos and videos get a really good understanding of the nubs there on offer then we can apply what we have been studying and really make progress on the nubs and the language they hold ... Great comment all the best mate ! .Phil.
@ZiggyDan
@ZiggyDan 4 жыл бұрын
...the full gamut of Knub variations here, rounded,half rounded, square, trapezoidal and oblongs, its got some of the best examples.
@goldtarget5188
@goldtarget5188 4 жыл бұрын
Above excellent again Ben 👍🏻. The majesty of all these places shines through in your presentations which is very hard to capture, yet in watching Im transported back a couple of decades and once more find myself in awe. Even at that time it was clear to me the narrative around these places was woefully inadequate. Your footage and verbal guidance are sheer brilliance. You are helping peel back the mysteries here and gathering insights which illuminate our deep past, and we are all the better for it. Thanks again.
@fluffycat087
@fluffycat087 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed that. Thanks, very well made, good format style.
@AncientHistoryCriticisms
@AncientHistoryCriticisms 4 жыл бұрын
29:05 and 29:17 No one can look at those nubs and say they are lifting bosses, there is obviously a much different reason for the nubs being there. 30:57 the nub on the side of the hitching post monolith, that is not for lifting either. Great footage and narration Ben, as always. The ancient megalithic builders of Peru used nubs in their architecture, which is proven to be a global phenomena. The megalithic pyramid builders used nubs in their architecture. What I find unique about the Egyptian and Peruvian examples is the stark, unadorned structures. Nubbed architecture in the Mediterranean region, Asia Minor and India by contrast have cultural embellishments on them; artistic motifs. So what could that mean about the Peruvian and Egyptian nubbed architecture? Could they be the first, and then nubbed architecture spread to Greece, Turkey, Lebanon, Iran, Syria, India, etc? Perhaps Yangshan Quarry in China also, I think it is the stark, plain and weird megalithic nubbed architecture that is the oldest.
@UnchartedX
@UnchartedX 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, good comment. I knew there were some good nubs in here for you :)
@miniwaern
@miniwaern 4 жыл бұрын
How do we know they were always "nubs" and not something broken off by the "conquistadors" aka ethnic cleansers.
@kevink.7597
@kevink.7597 4 жыл бұрын
Great to see you back at Machu Picchu. My brain has been locked onto the stone working of the megalithic polygonal constructions. Remember a little girl trapped in a well in the US. Jessica McClure is her name. Anyway, the final events in her rescue involved a water-pressure system that literally dissolved the stone in a seriously controlled way. That would explain many of the signs we see on these megalithic polygonal constructions. This machine cut out more stone in half an hour than professional minors could get done with jack-hammer and power tools over 3 days! That has to be the type of technologies used by the First World Culture. One of these days we will wake-up to the reality that the people of Earth were not who and what mainstream education tells us they were. Randal Carlson, Graham Hancock, Robert Schoch, Brian Forester, Anthony West, etc... ad nauseam. The better minds of our time tell us that we are not aware of who and what the people of Earth were. Yet, the Younger Dryas epoch is never mentioned in academia. Well, not well-mannered academia anyway.
@ianc4901
@ianc4901 4 жыл бұрын
Water pressure is a very powerful tool and does not require highly advanced modern machinery to produce. It could be created very simply using rock pistons and cylinders with leather seals and flexible green bamboo for pipes. I'm not sure there is any evidence in S America of any possible artifacts that may have once been used for that purpose but there are plenty of unexplained stone boxes in Egypt which could be used for creating high pressure water. It would be interesting to see if anyone is attempting to build such systems and use them in that way.
@kevink.7597
@kevink.7597 3 жыл бұрын
@SV Green Turtle Or... my 50+ years of Cultural Anthropology studies were a really good foundation to rebuild a time and condition on Earth before a stream of astroids ruined our evolution. But, don't get it twisted... I really did enjoy each of the Rogan podcasts. Both Hancock and Carlson are great people to talk to.
@hrdcnt6661
@hrdcnt6661 4 жыл бұрын
Best video yet! Well done!
@jamesdunne5638
@jamesdunne5638 3 жыл бұрын
Well thought out and presented. Cheers!
@haknys
@haknys 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the theory that the large stone blocks where made of concrete? If the concrete was put in large bags, that would answer several questions. For ex. The small nubs in the low front (wood support) The plank marks (wood support) Transportation The perfection (easy to form depending on the mix) The large size (now only limited by bag size) How they "rest" together Thicker at the bottom (gravity) Thanks for your great videos! 😊
@mayflowerlash11
@mayflowerlash11 4 жыл бұрын
I don't mean to crush your initiative but there are some flaws with this possible explanation. I offer my own speculation for your criticism as well. The fact that this concrete is of the same mineralogical content and structure as the stone in the source quarry rules out this possibility. The apparent similarity to concrete in bags is coincidental. Where are the remains of the bag caught between the lower rocks? Some parts of the bag could survive for thousands of years protected from the atmosphere in the tight space between placed rocks. Also imagine a concrete fluid which is very stiff, almost dry and set. Would it form the "bag" into a slab side with rounded corners in the shape we find the stones? Including the internal corners? Unlikely. If I lived in a primitive society (and the society that moved the stones and carved them to shape may not have been primitive) and I had to quarry, move and shape 50 ton stone how would I do it? 1. quarry by cutting rocks at the quarry. Let them tumble and roll down one side of the gully from the quarry. 2. Carve some of the shape at the bottom so manpower is not needed to raise unnecessary mass. 3. Haul the stone up the other side using ropes, levers, winches. There's a lot of detail to be explained here I agree. But this may have created evidence. A tumbling 50 tone block down a 1000 foot drop might leave permanent signs in the slope. There may be platforms or structures at the bottom where the stone was worked. If the block was encased in timber to round the corners it might be rolled up the other side. (this is a long bow as they say). Stone work at the top might leave debris fields which are unnatural or out of place. How do you make ropes strong enough to lift 50 ton blocks of stone? But the stone was moved.
@kevink.7597
@kevink.7597 4 жыл бұрын
But, the stone does not show reconstitution. The micro images show no change from the mountain query near each construct. But, we do see stones, full-sized in 10s of tones, left along the way to the construction site. You're right about it forgiving a lot of issues. But, it was not reconstituted. I'm leaning more toward water-pressure cutting machines. But, it does not explain the transportation either.
@haknys
@haknys 4 жыл бұрын
Gary LeLacheur The mix might have been made at the quarry. To carry sand bags (mixed with water at the site) would be "easy" with time and manpower. The bags used at the site might even have been made with organic material ment to disolve. Either by time or with help (fire or chemicals). It might be 12 000 -100 000 years with several cathastrofical events since those bags was there. Time eats everything except stone. You are also talking about equipment to backup your theory...that now of course are gone. How would you lift 50 tonn blocks up the mountain even today with roads and modern machines? Even a large 18 wheeler trailer on a perfect road could not do that. Even moving and pushing 50 tonns out the quarry and DOWN the hill-side is extreme engineering. If one should carry stones up a very steep mountain, why not at least split it into smaller stones (like all later generations does - even with modern equipment)? It makes no sense. Why the marks that look similar to wood support on the stone? Why the nubs? Why are the stones larger at the bottom? Why the organic shape? How could one do so perfect fit? It does not make sense with concentional carving. But it does make sense with concrete bags. We do make large perfect stones today with amazing accuracy, curves and size. Its called concrete, and its not very complex. They might even have knowledge about this lost today. I am aware of that also this theory has it holes, but but why do we search for the most complex solution to a problem? 🙃
@haknys
@haknys 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin K. I do not think a stone down the hillside prove anything. We have no idea who and why someone would do that. And when it was done. And why was it left there if it was done by the same people that needed the stone. Breaking up a stone, and making it similiar to its original mix requires some deep explaining - i agree. But this might be lost technology (tough still not as far out as other ideas), and who knows how old this is. I am just making the argument that this would explain how someone could "terraform" stone, and transport it. It would also explain why they look like they do (one can even see marks of planks in the stone, typical for concrete works). I think one needs to look deeper into the simpliest solutions, not the most complex. How would one carry a 50 tonn stone up mount everest with ropes? One wouldnˋt.
@ianc4901
@ianc4901 4 жыл бұрын
@@haknys The issue is the nobody knows and people are just guessing at possible solutions. Every solution has it's problems, every theory creates more questions which cannot be answered. Getting huge blocks of stone down from one mountain and up another is one of the main reasons that people are favouring the reconstituted stone theory. It is impossible to see how it was done so there must have been an easier way right ? I don't go along with the concrete idea because the sizes and shapes of the stones just don't support it, dealing with 50 ton bags of liquid rock using natural plant fibres would be no easy task. Mixing such huge quantities of liquid rock would create even more issues. Could it be possible to create a dam in the river to raise it's level and slow it down so that the stones could be floated across on rafts ? That would eliminate a lot of the problems and require a lot less effort. Extra flotation could be added using animal skin bladders or they may even have been able to waterproof woven bags using latex to create floats. Nobody knows.
@Sueezedtight
@Sueezedtight 4 жыл бұрын
Have they ever "unearthed" a solidly sunken monolith to take C14 samples from underneath it?(Ostensibly trapped there after the monolith was erected...)
@Sueezedtight
@Sueezedtight 4 жыл бұрын
@AB. B. He's not THAT old.... heheh although as a person, and like most presidents, the "under a rock" allusion is pretty appropriate.
@Sueezedtight
@Sueezedtight 4 жыл бұрын
@Prof Myers That would explain the quotation marks around the word unearthed. If they can get borehole samples from the bottom of the oceans, under a big stone shouldn't be all that hard.
@travisrichardson6233
@travisrichardson6233 4 жыл бұрын
There was organic material found inside of a piece of an "H" block at another site not too far from here by the Geopolymer Institute. That would mean that the stones were made by man using a type of "concrete". Hopefully they date the material they found which was actually rubber, as soon as possible. It should give a better idea of how old some of these sites are and how they were made.
@travisrichardson6233
@travisrichardson6233 4 жыл бұрын
kim Dier look it up.
@travisrichardson6233
@travisrichardson6233 4 жыл бұрын
kim Dier www.geopolymer.org/archaeology/tiahuanaco-monuments-tiwanaku-pumapunku-bolivia/ Yes they used a piece of H-block, cut it in half and found organic material(rubber) inside while using an electronic microscope. If you are open minded, how about reading the article and all of the tech data. It’s not a short read but it’s very interesting. We make man made stone now that you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference by looking at it. They know where the material came from to make the geopolymer also. That group has spent over 30 years working on monuments around the world. They even reproduced a copy of the stone. I’m not trying to argue but by doing a little research on this, I think you’ll be amazed. Cheers
@vanillagorilla8438
@vanillagorilla8438 4 жыл бұрын
Love this channel, glad I found it, thank you... 👍😁✌
@PikaBane94
@PikaBane94 Жыл бұрын
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