Wat

when you say "it all" what do you mean?

Started the over priced shoes I think :/

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Moon boots

no kidding. dude sounds like a marble mouth

Absolutely LOVED when he said "not my job". Literal self admission that all he had was an idea meanwhile the other dude put the leg work in to make it a functional shoe.

😂

Yeah at one point Dave even says gave him the idea and Deid was the designer. You could almost see him thinking that was dumb to say but to late. They won’t let me take that back. Like if I give some one a picture of a square and they make a painting, than I’m the artist. Lol

Mayhew has those .. 'i'm doing opioid painkillers every day' .. eye's.

This! 100%

I mean, I'm not saying he wasn't the true designer, but it would make sense that he'd have the CD considering he was corporate and Dave wasn't.

Exactly. Mayhew presented absolutely nothing to back his claims other than just words out his lying mouth. Dude knows he's lying but playing his role.

Yea, if Dave could articulate his design then maybe he’d have an ounce of credibility.

I had the same thoughts total BS dave is just trying to steal the fame that comes with the D3 because it was such a great success

Have you ever designed something that was put into mass production? Let's see your experience.

@@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 i gave the shoe a major compliment. LOL.Then all I said is that the passion for the creation shines through one of the 2 people. LOL.

Tanner88 Dave has probably told people over the years you don’t know me? I was a skater. Well... have you heard of the D3 Shoe by Osiris? Yes? I did that. lol riiight.

@@BeNZoJosh right... And maybe he just has been saying it so long that now he doesnt want to back off... Like one did has files and drawing of shoe designs, and one dudes justification for saying he designed it is "I mentioned I like laces like this one time and they did all the other stuff" which sounds not only questionable but ridiculous

I got it, it's the 3rd gentleman. He's the real shoe designer.

meaturama Seems like you missed the point of how Osiris branding worked back then. But that’s on the industry trying to sell shoes by claiming that their sponsored skaters actually real hand in the design when they didn’t. It was a marketing gimmick, but it gets complicated when people start trying to lay claim to credit.

Ariel Zambenedetti yeah once again....maybe the year 2020 is the year of fact checking but 1 Dude has a le Wall-O-Shoe and 1 dude has 4 skateboards on his wall.....

Lol “(Brian’s) job was to create the shoe in a way that we could get a sample back from the factory” that’s an awful long winded way to say he designed it

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The whole thing sounds like a collaboration, but both parties are over grown irrelevant man babies.

@@zesticide1010 imagine calling someone with a vice video irrelevant when you're just some dipshit on KZfaq lol

@@jamiemadden2924 that's exactly what a man baby would say. Also, Vice isn't that great of a place the last time I checked.

Nice !

The problem here is the grey area on these collabs back in the day. These days people patent and sell the rights to others, back then that wasn’t common, so I doubt Dave had anything to do with the shoes besides put his name on them, yet they flopped. Think about ADIDAS YEEZES, Kanye designed the shoe but adidas makes them.

@@thejigisup Kanye does not design shoes, he gives rough ideas to the designing team that has names like Steven Smith or Christian Tresser. You can't just design shoe without proper knowledge of how manufacturing works.

It's sad ..just be humble and earn your own respect haha

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@@Bananektdu you sure about that? Those shoes look exactly like Kanye designs them and that he doesn't know (or care) manufacturing processes. LOL

Yeah lol, would love to see him pull up a CAD program and 'redesign' that shoe right now for us all ... what an a******

Perfect lol

or ass

YEah allot of them :) @og_r3id

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Stop talking about Trump… ;)

Yeah it’s called the “Trump Effect”! Look it up!

I have a dude in my circle of friends, great dude honestly... but he has this weird thing where when he's in a big group of people, he will tell funny tales and stories, and you can get halfway into it and think "wait... that happened to me... and YOU WEREN'T EVEN THERE!!!" We love the dude and put it down as one of his "quirks" and don't even pull him up on it. Sometimes I wonder if in his head he thinks he was actually there, or if he's just trying to tell a cool story and forgets that the person who told him is present... we're all leaning towards the former though, as this has been going on 20 years lol.

@@zubrhero5270 The ol yarn spinners. I always wonder if those old guys you run into who have infinite interesting stories to tell were like that their entire life haha. This sheds light on that

look up astral projection ++

Make it blu “designer”

Funny

I was around all those guys at the time owning a skate shop in Ca Dave really did come up with the concept he was always saying he wanted it to look like a Hiking shoe Brian basically put Dave's idea with his old shoe and that's basically it was TRUTH.

But he had the bronze shoe dispute solved

@@joeywitt7129 having a concept for a shoe and actually designing it are completely different things though.

Alex how much input would the designer have to have to qualify as a designer

@Alex Exaclty. Just like an architect and a civil engineer. One designs, the other "builds". Two totally different things, both very important.

@@Labirinto. Better analogy here would actually be the relationship between a prospective home owner and an architect... The home owner could tell the architect how many bedrooms and corridors they want, but its the architects job to sit down and use their vast knowledge and experience in design to come up with something that works based on the home-owners specs... Can the home owner now claim they "designed" the house? The Civil Engineers in this analogy would be the Korean factories that have to manufacture the shoes.

Lol I kno right

Exactly!

Why does his house look so empty? Is he moving out?

where

@@boomerfunnyjimgaffigan4998 on the older shoes he created you blind and deaf?

That was also my first thought you can see parts of the d3 including the lace loops in older models

Clear evolution of design. The silhouettes are so similar. The “bells and whistles” were obvious Mayhews input- I can understand why the actual designer was pissed off. 10:34

@@boomerfunnyjimgaffigan4998 dumbo

Hey, the spring doorstops are kind of entertaining. Booooiiing.

@@Rudyelf1 Fair. He doesn't have that bounce though

Hahaha

Awful argument but I agree he didn’t design it

@@_pulyx sounds like he did have that bounce. Mostly on his head it seems

Like panties in a rape tree, but with shoes?

A great person once told me “the truth will set you free.” @og_r3id

10:48 He pretty much says the same thing, out of his own mouth.

Skaters definitly had input on there designs, take it from someone who was skating when these came out dude. Infact, the muska shoes from back then have a stash pouch in them.. trust me, the skaters have input on the designs. Thats why its pro model shoe. As for 100% designing it who knows. But they did have design input.

@@profo4544 but the involvement is different from case to case, and dude talk about the Muska is kind of cheating in this sense, he's on another level. How much Input skaters get when 90% of the shoes in the market are just variations of the Janoski (not that the Janoski was the first shoe that had that shape)

It's devastatingly clear who the designer is and who the endorsed athlete is. One dude has all the design files, the other held up a spray painted shoe. Dave is a complete muppet for considering himself the designer of this shoe. Anybody with any level of design and/or marketing experience knows exactly what happened here.

So when ferrari makes a new car, and somebody designs it, and gives that pencil drawn concept sketch to computer graphics designer...the guy who drew the pencil sketch gets no credit at all whatsoever? ...totally makes since...if you have head trauma. Both shouldve been credited, but did you see reid giys original sketch?? Looks nothing like any of the 3 released, so somebody else probably made it look better too that has been left out of the story altogether. Seems like both just have bad memories and big egos

@@truhhhhhhhokIII3 By Dave's own admission his concept was the wave lace loops... so Reid then designed the shoe around that concept soo the correct analogy is more along the lines of someone giving a ferrari graphic designer a new rim, mirror, spoiler, or steering wheel accent design idea then going around claiming to have designed the entire car. It may be true that Dave visualized some kind of wavey lace loop idea which he passed onto Reid or It's true that Brian Reid designed the Osiris Gorgon and Osiris Guru and the D3 was just the natural evolution of his own design idea's... since when looking at the Guru and D3 the design similarities are stricking, essentially the D3 is just the lower side half of the Guru extended upwards with giant lace loop holes added and a few other minor design tweaks here and there and you got yourself a D3 birthed out of the Guru design. After seeing the Gorgon and Guru shoes that Mayhew's names not credited too in anyway but Reid's is, it kinda goe's far in proving Reid's argument that Mayhew is misremembering how much input and involvement he truly had with "designing" the shoe. In my opinion the truth of the story is likely that Dave had skated and liked the Osiris Guru and he asked for his signature shoe to be similar and so Reid designed him the Osiris Guru 2.0. Dave might've even suggested his signature shoe be like the Guru shoe but with bigger lace loops. or gave small input on designs that Reid showed him. but in the end I think its simply most likely that he rode and liked the Guru shoe and so when it came time for his signature model to be made, Reid was tasked with designing Mayhew a signature shoe and Reid basically just expanded on the Osiris Guru design.

It’s more like MJ/Kobe/Lebron providing input on their signature sneakers. I understand Lebron gets to influence the design of his signature sneakers but I don’t think he’s out there calling himself the designer.

What about Kanye? He drew his Nike Yeezy on a napkin and Nike made it. He considered himself a designer

well said

And they kind of wore out fast. They would always crack at the bottom part of the wave on the side for me. Still loved em though.

The lie he sold that skaters designed it back in the day is now biting him in the ass

PortlandNW PDX maybe so but that doesn’t mean we aren’t capable of seeing that he is clearly the real designer. like, I think the most telling thing in the whole video is both of their accounts of the name. the designer actually gives a pretty large backstory and even mentions that there was an original D3 that was before the skater ever jumped on board with the company.

@@crvskate Comes round full circle

Andres Villogas yea he designed them but chose to give that position away for money. It’s now hurting him.

Yeah designer dude fucked up by not having his name on the product as well as the skater dudes name.

Dead ass haha

you made this???? i made this.

On the lord

And how about some squiggly waves on the side? siiick

Lmao

and it's so true! used to have to do that all the time.

lol most people would go, I should quit wearing giant pants. No, this guy goes, I need to design a whole line of giant sneakers to keep my giant pants off the floor.

Solid take away.

Delta-9 can’t say I’d suggest wearing slimmer pants to a hiphop club in the late 90s

that's hilarious. I always thought it was to cover the board better LFMAO. maybe it was just me but I felt like I could flip better with more surface area, I couldn't kickflip worth a damn in a pair of regular tennis shoes but give some of those feet pillows and I was ready to go lol

He pulled out the bronze d3🤣🤣

@@ul3779 they usually give one of one to the skater promoting it.

@@thejigisup yes indeed, Emerica is good example

He helped design the shoe, its his pro model and he should be compensated. A lot of people made money off the shoe and Dave got screwed over

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Except Muska he changed the game

@@derrick7648 exactly he was a Russell Simmons of skateboarding with so many companies and side ventures.

Because once you became a pro in the 90's it's party time!, cocaine crack booze, oh but they all claim, "We didn't know what we were doing?!?!"

Facts

It is the biggest part of it tho otherwise it would look like the rest of rhem

He shouldnt have lied to 16 year olds like he said. And he’s acting like lying to kids to sell shoes isn’t a scumbag move

@@lategod Its not actually lying like hes making it out to be. He gave his input and idea for the shoe, he designed it. dudes butthurt

I mean whats the diffirence between the D3 and the orsiris flagship shoe before that? Basically the wave design shoe laces lmao.. so yeah kinda designed the big part of it that made it stand out

@@samuelyeet6006 Finally somehow who makes sense. Thank you 🙌🏽. Regardless of the actual situation this is viewpoint is perfectly logical.

Even that was just a tweak of the Gorgon model Brian had previously designed !

not to mention all the REAL work involved lol... that guy Reid was flying to Korea to work face to face with the factory to have it made the right way like if that doesn't count as actually designing the shoe idk what does..

ikr

Just so he can show off to rocky who doesn’t even skate although I love ASAP. It’s dope how these big rap stars like to wear skate gear and push it but have some respect. Every skater knows it’s an unsaid disrespect to dress like a skater but not even know how to ride a board.

Its not personal, its buisness.

In the video Brian said he wore baggy pants, but wasn't a rapper or gangbanger? Adults dont care what other people wear man. Let people do what they want who carss...

@@IDADDYIproductions In the video Brian said he wore baggy pants, but wasn't a rapper or gangbanger? Adults dont care what other people wear man. Let people do what they want who carss...

@@IDADDYIproductions they're posers

To be fair he was given the credit, by the other guy, written on the shoe.... and on stage.... lol

@@samuelyeet6006 did you even watch the video you're missing the whole point bro

@@CruzCon umm yeah did you, he literally gave the guy the credit? If i owned a shoe co and designed shoes, and i decided to put someones name on the tounge followed after the words "designed by" and if i brought someone on stage and said heres the guys that "designed it" then i wouldnt cry 20 years later when that guy claims to design it 🤷‍♂️ 2 aide s to every story man

@@CruzCon its business, if you dont want someone to take credit dont give them the credit on a silver platter 😂🤣 seing that the oppisite happens every day and no one bats an eye

​@@samuelyeet6006 selective comprehension is a disease i hope you get well soon bro

Not only forgot but completely pretend you wrote the song

funny thing is, this happens literally all the time lol

I don’t think you can say he got screwed when he co-owned Osiris at that time. Safe to say he made a lot of money off the D3, much more than Mayhew. Most shoe contracts from the early 2000’s-2015ish was $2 per shoe (which is huge of course) but usually capped out pretty quick if the shoe got out of hand (the Nike Janoski, Vans Half cab, and Adidas Busentiz for example)

How is keeping all the royalties and design credits for yourself being screwed ? It's actually the other way around when you know the true story.

Or just knowingly lie about it haha

yeah man if your going to tell a story, better to believe in it before you tell it @og_r3id (IG TAG)

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This dude is obviously lying!! It's kinda fucked up that the dude who had been designing shoes for a living, has to put up with this bullshit artist claiming his work.

@Ion says you youngster

agreed! @og_r3id (IG handle)

Don't agree with the insult part but yeah Dave didn't design it. Insults would be appropriate if some guy stole your work and passed it off as his own.

@@blackopsy9 When trying to argue on whose position is correct or not, pretty much 100% of the time, people who resort to insulting someone never have a good position to stand on or else they would just make their points and not insult people.

@@questionmark1152 So victims of crime or injustice are always instantly invalidated by raging against their perpetrators? Flawless logic.

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yup man , they are so annoying

And they won't even blink doing it

Aaaaalways! Lol Knew them in school and now I still know them at work lol.

Fuckin ay

So if someone has a concept idea they shouldnt get credit for it? Nice makes sense

We actually made him an all red pair 🏓 - @og_r3id

yes.

Awesome shoes, but today i'm a firm user of Globe Sabre, i find them more durable and more suitable for the skate for the flat bottom that really gives you tons on grip on the board😇

It looks that way

@نقطة نقطة 2 subs bro . 💩

That’s a dayum good feeling @og_r3id

I was 9 in 2001 and wanted the same thing. Didn't bother asking for them, wound up finding them on the clearance rack two years later.

I did the same thing round that time lol but back in 2014 they were back on the shelves and went right into the store and got another pair lol

Bro almost the same here but for me I was turning 11 in 02’ and I asked for these shoes for the beginning of the school year, my sister got airwalk and I got the Osiris’ that I wanted. We were poor to but happy

At @7:36 they show for $149.95 fuckin crazy!

I believe you

Bullshyt all treee of yalll lien I did put sum respek on my name

@@blackgoku1020 I always knew it was you

I DESIGNED THE D3 these are liars!

@@killjoy2467 Cmon man you just did a few tweaks bro

His girlfriend who goes to a different school has them.

@@JC-wg5xn 😂

Maybe they should find their timecards from the sweatshop in China to prove they assembled the first prototype? ...If you think anyone claims the skater literally did the graphic design then you should probably just be quiet.

🤣🤣🤣

but dave was awarded the bronze shoe and brien even said thanks for the design? Why would he say that?

Couldn't have said it better

Good shoes leave a big imprint on our memories. This also made me reminiscent of how great the mid-2000's Adio's were as well. I still miss them sometimes.

SERIOUSLY THO...WOW.

@@ELPRES1DENTE45 Yeah man, Adio were great, I had some Kenny V2s I think they were and loved them.

@@Naddan9 - I had a number of pairs and they were so comfortable and durable. I still have a pair of Snakeskin Bams in storage somewhere that are in pretty decent condition.

that would straight mean dave mostly designed it though... why would he make that up and if that wasnt true where does the shoe designer say that wasnt the case

@@1m2a3t4t5 wrong... it's like having a famous home designer design your home , you can give some input and some general ideas , but the the vast majority of design elements and all the real work is done by them....even Dave says he only came up with one feature of the shoe which doesn't even take up 20% of the surface area... that's like me telling a car designer hey how about we put some recessed headlights and a spoiler on the car...then claiming I totally designed it all🤦

@@thisshouldbeentertaining3386 no because he doesnt claim he “totally designed it” even. His idea are the reason the shoes are significant, an innovative idea that didnt already exist and takes up the majority of the side design of the shoe. If you gave a significant idea or a few that were innovative and new in a home or car and had experts figure out how to make it work you would still have played a part in designing it.

@@1m2a3t4t5 again even if he helped give a little bit of input which is highly suspect for he only has his word as proof while the actual designer has his word plus other people's and a slew of actual proof , including previous shoe designs that are very similar. ...you must think that if a restaurant owner told his head chef to add a dash of salt to a unique new dish the chef was working on. That now makes the restaurant owner the Creator of that dish .

@@thisshouldbeentertaining3386 dude reread my reply, your still trying to say things I clarified for you already, as if you didnt even read or think about what I said. designer and creator arent the same thing, he never claimed to have completely created or completely designed the shoe. His idea is the significance of the shoe. It would be more like if someone had the idea to add eggplant and something to an otherwise generic spaghetti dish, they would have designed it to their specifications

😂😂😂😂

Man I wore tens and they felt like that!! They were the chunkiest shoe 😂

Could land everything in these

An inch wider and u needed to registered them at the DMV lol.... I still loved them

I wear 13 now I want those SUV's ha.

underrated comment

Yep. Dave’s fucked for lying tho.

Could have just stopped dressing like tween, problem solved

@@randomoldguy3967 you know that was a joke right?

@@randomoldguy3967 man you gotta be young lol cause that's the style in the 90s 😂😂

That’s how great ideas start

Yessssssss lolol

FACTS crzy how money changes it

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Hahahahhahaha its ironic you quoted Lauryn Hill because that chick is well known to not give credit to people that help make/produce her album. She lost a court battle over it

Patrick White what country are you from that’s so much better than the U.S.? I’m only interested because I love my country, we’re really messed up half the Time but so is everyone else , id never want to live anywhere except my country.

@@matthewsparks568 that's because it's all you know. I'm America. And we do have it better than a lot of people but I would 💯 be open to Canada, Denmark, Norway, etc... Healthcare, college, month vacations, higher pay, legalized weed nation wide. We could absolutely be better if we stopped giving so much taxes to corporations and war. It's arrogant to assume we can't be better or no where is better.

Honest to god he dose

^^

No he said it wasn't his job to put it on paper, and have it manufactured...seems like the concept was his though, just didn't have the artistic ability to put it on paper

Justin Berg it’s like if I asked the graphic designer for my board company to make me a graphic with some mean looking dogs and then years later I claimed that I solely designed it.

@@SolidFoxHoundSF nah its like if i made a cartoon character and someone changes some stuff about it i still created it

And the other dude also literally went on stage and claimed that Dave was the designer... now taking his words back 20 years later LOL

@@Julianv53 not exactly. more like if you created power rangers (generic figure such as the created osiris model) and someone had a really significant concept or two for a particular ranger, that person should still be credited as a designer. (still not the most accurate analogy)

Yep that's exactly it

Hahahaha nailed it

oh yeah? were you there?

Except it was just the wings part.

What income would that be? How do you make money by saying you designed a shoe?

J d seems a bit dense to me.... 🤣🤣🤣

@@Vote_By_Mail do you live under a fucking rock?

@@huckleberrypint2899 No, I live under an asexual rock. Now explain how you make $ by claiming credit for a damn shoe you already agreed to endorse in the 90s.

@@Vote_By_Mail that's the whole point of the video... Dave was doing a deal with asap to design a new shoe based off the d3 so him saying he designed the d3 gives him the opportunity to be a part of a whole new brand new

Hey I write for a blog, do you think I could interview you for a story? :)

This is interesting. I'd like to hear more on this

@@Vatoxido sure, if you still write for a blog.

@@berlyngrey9242 sure, what do you want to know?

@@berlyngrey9242 this happened about a year before the pandemic, sad part about it was that when the pandemic hit and we needed to turn regular patient rooms into negative pressure rooms, my boss actually mentioned my box and admited it was a shame I never finished it as we could have just mass produced it and saved ourselves tons of labor puting up and taking down temp containment boxes that had to be literally put together with tape and needed constant maintenance.

4.sure.. even we.. in the netherlands..

They made a bit of a comeback when I was in like 7th grade which was like 2011

Same

True

Yup 01-'02', I had the red/black. Every skater in my middle school owned a pair atleast once lol. We called them moon boots😁 they were the most expensive shoe at all my local shops back then. I think they were 90 or 100$.. Back in the day d3's looked sick. Then I didnt like them for many years personally.. lol but kinda wish I still had a pair right now. The all grey ones look kinda dope.

That's true. Can't deny that one lol

For real. I loved Emerica's first Templeton shoe, it was my fav. The D3 looked like trash compared to that shoe. I was not into the hip hop puffy shoe side of skating at the time. I thought people who did were usually terrible people. Koston's "1" and the first Rowley's by vans were also rad and worn by me when I could not get my hands on the Templeton's.

So what you're saying is they got you laid?

David Anthony Stark lol girlfriends? That's a bit far fetched

Big facts

Doesn’t matter you can literally see that Reid designed the shoe look at the shoe before he literally shows a shoe that literally looks the same you can tell Reid designed the shoe

Brandon Anderson someone wasnt paying attention, lol, if you think Dave designed that, you ARE stupid as a brick

idiotburns you clearly didn’t read my comment it clearly says you can clearly see I stated that Reid designed the shoe what are you talking about you should as stupid and your username

*It is actually Reid who wants to look cool and relevant again with all this butthurt lol* What really happened: Reid: Hey Dave, We are gonna use your Image as the designer so we can Sell more, because you are more popular as and athlete than me as a designer so this will help us selling! Dave: Sick brah, is this on the contract also? I mean, me as the shoe designer? Reid: Sure brother, you will be! We will endorse like that, so for it to dont look fake we got you on the contract too! 20 years later... Dave: Yeah. I designed the D3. Reid: huh? Dave: Yeah bro that's right, it is ON THE CONTRACT (and that is what matters actually). If this shoe was a FLOP this guy Reid would'nt want to have his name associated with it. But since it is trending again, he wants the spotlight on him, it is simple. For me personally it is pretty fair, they lied, they used his image putting him as a designer to sell more back then, and now he got the title as designer under contract, so its safe for him :D

@Serena Rios 💯 exactly! He acted like he fucked his old girlfriend or something! Reid probably married her! I'm sure its something more personal...but no doubt reid designed these!

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@@Labirinto. nah, that's not how it works. If you designed something that millions wore, celebrities wore and then 20 years later it trends again you get credit. You don't get called a whiny baby because you want that and the shoe wasn't a flop so why even bring that up. That person should get credit for the work when it spurs creativity in the next generation. Ensuring that isn't messed up. Get real.

Like bro.. the bells and whistles make up the entire design of the shoe! Dave is over here acting like designed the concept of foot wear.

what's messed up is Reid designed the shoes aka built the bell, whistles, bell tower, bell hammer, etc.. Mayhew says 'add a whistle' and claims to be the designer.

He also started smiling everytime he lied.