He said he was going to do a big bang for this

I want to see you run a 3.3 l on a turbo assembly sports my son is getting about 600 horsepower

3.3 liter Buick engine 93

Nobody cares about the 3800s 😂😂😂😂 ls4 will punish tf outta this .

Rich Gwolla guess I’m a nobody, lol! 🤷 not gonna argue with you there, wish I had the ls4 in my car!

I didn't have a you tube channel 5 years ago

How'd the trans hold up? And the half shafts? Do ya have torque steer in the corners, or it it drag-only?

@@donellmuniz590 trans cost more than the car, had a bunch of gm racing parts and a torsen diff. No tq steer and stock half shafts held up fine on hoosier qtp slicks.

@@Wild9C1 Interesting.

@Daver G now that's interesting lol.

Any trans shop with half a brain knows how to build these transmissions. People give that a bad rap because they would dump money into the motors and leave the trans stock and expect it to hold up.....

Go big boost

I have an 02 GTP sitting in the yard that is going to end up being the power for a ladder car, like the Atom. Would be fun to put a turbo on it, run it on E85, and have the entire car with me weigh less than 2000lbs. Would make a super fun summer car.

Nowadays it’s several thousand dollars to make 400 hp, plus a 3000 dollar built transmission to hold the power. Meanwhile an LS is just a cam and tune away

@@CraftsmanQuad19 I'm putting the 6.0 in my 76 C10 it had a bad lifter that ate the cam so I had to get a camshaft for it. Then I had to get headers mounts build a new fuel system then I have to come up with the transmission that I can make work with the 600 and that's going Chevy to Chevy and it should make about 400 horse but you never know it might not. Right now including the engine all the parts and not even getting ready to put it in the truck yet just compiling part I got 22 $2,300 wrapped up in it now I can take a 400 Pontiac and get 450 horse out of it really easy for about $2,000 and if it came in a Pontiac vehicle then I don't have to change anything I just pull it out go through it stick it back together with the right Cam and everything in it and a set of headers and everything is cheap for the Pontiacs. $175 for headers instead of 320 for the LS don't need to change the gears don't need to change the transmission don't need to change a fuel system unless I want to put EFI on it. I like the ls a lot but it's not exactly what I would call inexpensive. They can make good power but you're not going to do that reliably with a junkyard engine and put it in for pennies you're going to end up spending a couple of grand just to put it in the vehicle. That's why it's going in the truck and not my GTO because a 6.0 is going to have a hard time making the same power that my 455 does, it'll never make as much torque except maybe come close at the peak Maybe, i can do a rebuild with forged rods and pistons in a 455 with ported heads that makes 550hp 600tq for about 3k. When it costs me almost that much to just stuff in a junkyard engine that's makes less power and needs more rpm to come close, well they make good truck engines

@@CraftsmanQuad19 I'm not an idiot I think you can figure out what I was trying to say I'm using voice to text because my hands are covered in oil and I'm out in the shop. The tablet doesn't really know car stuff that well

Mr Rice i Call BS. 4.2ltr stroker with 350kw atw supercarged intercooled VS Ute. Have to be realistic about what he tests. www.fullboost.com.au/fb/index.php/2019/09/02/1000hp-v6-ecotec/

@@v8soarer1991 that is with a supercharger, which are trash compared to a big single turbo

v8soarer1991 there are certainly people in Aus nudging 1000hp with the v6’s. None with the factory m90 obviously

Lag sux vt xu6 is stroker turbo nitrous making around 70hp atw and runs low 9s

@@benmcbride-davids7233 incorrect, isnt stroked.

every engine should be run on E85 both NA and with boost.

Big bang everything 💪

@@SweatyFatGuy I dont have E85 in my area (western Washington), which is a bit of a bummer.

@@donellmuniz590 I have to drive 2 hours south into another state so that I can fill up 55 gallon barrels with E85. So I feel you are not having it nearby. Used to have a station near here that had it was only 20 miles but they gouged everybody on the prices and then stopped having it. They were selling it for more money than 87 octane and you just aren't going to sell any if you're doing that it was $0.10 more than 87. Most stations around the country will have it price $0.10 under 87 octane. I'm out in the shop right now I'm using voice to text because my hands are covered in oil so if something in this doesn't quite make sense or has the wrong word blame it on my tablet

@@donellmuniz590 almost forgot I'm also making my own gate E5 well I make straight up and all and comes out like he 98 cuz I have to denature it I make it out of tree sap you can make it out all kinds of things and pretty much any vehicle even airplanes and boats will run on it without any problems most of what you hear about it being harmful or whatever is negative it's just bulshit. I've been running it for 13 years and all my stuff looks nice and clean no rust no corrosion no nothing

YES

Yes 4200 i6 big bang!

Biggest issue with them is lack of aftermarket. Stock internals can only go so far and there’s no forged options available off the shelf. You’d need custom parts which is so expensive

www.thirdgen.org/forums/engine-swap/608490-autorocs-turbo-vortec-4200-a.html

I'd love to see the 3700 i5 and 2900 i4 variants too.

Terafi absolute weapon haha

@@delcowizzid Was lol.

THNX FOR THE INFO

What ET and MPH then?

George Montgomery : Welcome and thanks for the info. You have my respect.

Been in that predicament lol. Realized the studs actually grow when the engine is warm. So id re-torque when the engine was hot. Even though everyone says that's a no no. Worked for me.

i love zzp but 4k for a set of ported heads is laughable!

People have been using the Holley LS upper intake manifold and doing a diy lower intake manifold on Honda J-Series V6 engines and I think the same thing could be applied to this engine, this mod also allows basically any size throttle body to be used as well!

@@ThmsPtrsn yup, with really good results. I had planned on doing that with the Firebird, using the Holden lower and the holley upper.

The Australian Holden lower is better than any of them 👍 its basically a short ram lower

I agree with your opinion 💯💯. And since our opinions are KNOWN FACTS!!!!!!!! (NOT UP FOR DEBATE) it's the best.

I would like to see the SC 3.8L Boat Anchor being sadistically flogged with a big 🐌 and aftercooler too. Always thought there was more in it but the factory M90 was a pushover and not up to snuff.

The old cartuning turbo kits used to put those cars deep in the 12's with a stock 3800!

I opted for the 1.9 ratio rockers instead of a cam due to the weak transmission in the W-body automobiles.

Working for Buick at DPG, I did Dev work on 3800sc . It was understood that b25 cam was used only because of bad rockers. Buick/GM couldn't justify rocker redesign/upgrade. Waiting to see what your tests shows🤔

@@karter9908 It's long gone. I had an '01 GTP with 3.4 pulley and supporting mods. It ran a 13.7@ 101. It was a hoot to drive

They are worth sod all. I have tried 1.95-1 roller rockers and am not even sure they did anything. My guess they are worth about 5-10hp max.

@@karter9908 you say you worked for Buick why I's it Pontiac got the credit for this engine.?

Different motor

Turbo 3800 can fly....! Add cumputer eeprom....easy low 11 sec 3600lb. G body.... Strong block, Mahle pistons in1989, torqueplate at factory......good stuff for sure!! If I remember correctly, GNX motor was mod by McLaren. I still have a business card from engr I worked with on pgm. They used ported 3.0 Buick heads....ceramic turbo...and A to A intercooler, as all 1987 GN had. We had a test car that Gabe did prom, and it was impressive!!! Since the GNX is so Super Collectable, no sane person would hack one up. I think ~545 Total built. Each dealer got 1! And some special vip people....

@@karter9908 The 3800 series and the Turbo LC2 3.8 Buick motor are not the same motor... ASC/McLaren helped modify GNs into the 547 GNXs. It's not the same company as the McLaren super car manufacturer though.

@@gn4life84 you are correct. I forgot to mention a few things...it's been YEARS!

@@karter9908 no worries man. It's all good. it's a common thought that all 3.8 gm V6s are the same. But there are a variety of them.

I seen ported N/A intake as well.

He has made custom length tubular intakes before with great results. He may just be able to achieve the na Hp from 3800 enthusiasts dreams lol

John Parrish agree 100% why even bother with a stock cam? Nothing to gain without can upgrade to need more flow.

True. Stock cam is tuned for emissions and economy so not great for making power.

It's more likely the supercharger; if you've seen his other videos you might recall him using the same supercharger on the 4.8 LS and it acted like a restrictor plate. The end power was similar, which is likely the most power those chargers can make.

@@BrendanCBreen OH, Good Point

Spending $6k for 50hp 😅🤣😂

dvj racing not really 500 bucks can net you almost 50 hp

I love these engines but richard is right turbo id the way to go

@@mikehardin2927 the supercharger swap was the only thing that netted any power. Call and see what that costs.....

@@mikehardin2927 From what Richard demonstrated, it looks like just a pulley swap and maybe a bigger throttle body, eh?

there was a local guy in the Chicagoland area in the 2000s with a turbo'd Regal GS running 11.8 quarter mile times

The sound of the western suburbs on a balmy summer night. Maaaaaaaaaaang ,maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang!!!!!. Horrible old vp commodore doing a one wheel peel.

How come all these motors in Australia kick more legs the a karate master on a Wednesday night? 😂

Dayumm Jelly 😂 good comment. i believe the series 1 had different rods and oiling setup or something like that and they liked to throw rods, I’ve seen 5 grenade with my own eyes and a few more on video, the series one is VN, VP, VR. The series 2 (Ecotec) in the VS, VT, VY commodores had revised rods etc and I’ve never seen one of them throw rods, apparently really though engines.

These blocks are pretty strong.a short KZfaq search of turbo gtp or turbo l67 confirms this.the ported heads are not the restriction so you wont see a gain until they are the cam is the restriction.the stock exhaust is a restriction. I think stock heads on the kb vs ported on the kb after a cam swap would show you what the porting on the heads can do. Also definitely do springs with a cam even if they dont recomend it.i speak from experience. Turbo all the way.big turbo too.at least what it will spool. F the 4t65...

every test result is more than satisfactory-data is always good

L67 is stronger

@@morboost4224 L32 has rods same as a Gen4 LS. Stronger than L67.

@@3800TURBO They don't really, people have broken l32 rods but haven't broken l67 rods in similar builds.

Series III has the powdered metal rods

Surely you want the late model l67

Full exhaust, pulley, cams, and tune will make big power!

Would love to see someone do a proper turbo-compound, for the ultimate in responsive throttle w/ stonkin' torque at any revs...

@@bri-manhunter2654 define big power. Big average hp , nothing on a Wu Tang war whistle

@@hayden6056. Big power is relative, for the street anyways.

@@bri-manhunter2654 this is coming from someone with an intercooled , cammed, balanced and e85 motor on the stand. If it makes 350whp I'll cream but it'll be over 200rwhp by 2k. Fit a killaboost manifold set up and an s300 Borg Warner on same rotating assembly and heads and I'd be probably around 5-600 before pistons are a worry.

check out ZZPerformance. They still have a ton of upgrades and info for the 3800 engine

I was thinking the same, these are not built for the abuse of dyno runs

The cam is so small it is more likely that. Bigger cams or high ratio rockers running 6k+ rpm the valve springs will definitely be an issue

Also, higher boost is going to effectively lower spring seat pressure. I’d say springs are a must before turbocharging it.

Yes please the legendary iron duke!!!

It's been done, the cranks break with any boost.

yesssssss. i wanna see a 2.5 jeep big bang.

Yeah, I would like to see the plate specs pleeeeeaaase

i know how your feeling my friend i plan on pulling my sc 3.8l out of my impala when the body finally roots out all the way (fuck nys) and putting it in a smaller car with mods

What's different about the vin k engines?

Pos

Ford or dodge

@@timothythomas1737 DODGE

Both ! Mostly want to see the ford though !

I had a boss who owned a custom dodge suburban type vehicle with a v10 that had a banks centrifugal charger on.it We also put in ross forged pistons balanced it larger injectors because the meth injection didn't kill all the detonation also head was massaged by indy cylinder head it was pretty fast for a one ton truck.not sure on power out put but banks only i think it was ranked at 500 hp

V 10 truck engines arent viper engines tho. I have a good friend with a viper truck

😕really

John Woodworth .Me three.

KENNE BELL DOES NOT MAKE HEADS

Compound a LU3 or L88.

Check out the Australian Holden lower intake

Adapter kit for 3800 to T56 malwoodauto.com.au/product/adapter-plate-kit-for-holden-v6-to-suit-ls1-t56/. The ECU is easy and will use factory sensors

3800 a oddball😳 it's literally in everything

I will do compound on this