hey man, you just gotta say your intentions from the start. and then, if she says she ain't interested that's when you get the fuck out.

Yes. Because friendship is such a terrible thing.

Elena Kusevska friendzone isn't really friendship in a lot of situations, it's sutle rejection

Elena Kusevska why should the guy who clearly have feelings stay? she reaps the benefits while the guy gets the short end of the stick. that shits a consolation prize, and nobody should have to settle for that. Accepting friendship and seeing her on a semi regular basis being constantly reminded that you'll never get to be with her meanwhile you sit back and watch her date and be with other guys when that could've been you and when it's over you're there to pick up the peices again. That shit hurts, and can be very discouraging at times. nothing good comes from it and the shits toxic as hell and people don't even know it

Don't go to a girl's house if you two are alone and it's at night. Idk why she wouldn't set that boundary either. Like it's pathetic, go out into public at least. You can't just use people. Men use women and women use men. There's physical chastity and there is also emotional chastity. He let his feelings about her go on for that long and puts it on her when she's in a desperate time? That's manipulative and sneezy snake shit. She's going to use him as a "cuddle buddy" and a therapist at night when they're alone? Wtf? Like seriously, wtf? Using a man to cope with the loss of the man. Anyway, good acting on the video. Glad to use it to expose how much crap is involved from both of these sides. "Friendzone" is for crazies. Stupid paradigm. Y'all need Jesus

bumboo100 yup yup

Those feelings are perfectly valid. It's when they act like the girl they have feelings for is doing something wrong by not reciprocating that's the problem. It doesn't make sense for someone to say they care about someone and then promptly abandon them when won't go out with them. If you're only willing to be around someone when they agree to date you, then what did your friendship every really mean in the first place?

PomegranatesAndDroids How about the idea that people grow on you..you go through things together and a bond forms..within that bond, desires form..being able to share those feelings physically and emotionally isn’t wrong, but females want to compartmentalize men..one for sex, one for providing, one for friends..spinning plates is better for their ego as it equates to more attention and if one of the plates gets broken, they have more to choose from..it’s based in from a fear of solitude..but not thinking long-term..females inadvertently end up single because by the time they realize guys won’t put up with these shenanigans forever, they’ve lost their beauty and no one wants them anymore. It’s a vicious game of drama that no one wins, yet is still played because society hasn’t put these brats in their place..yet.

You just gotta be her friend... is that so hard to understand? Feelings may or may not transpire in the future but you’ll never know if you just decide to cut her off because it “hurts” cry me a fuckin river.

@@AllOverTonight If she's not willing to entertain the idea of a relationship with him, why should he have to keep hurting himself just to make her feel better? It's like some others have said, they are both entitled to feel the ways they do but not to expect the other to feel obligated to change for them. Too often, the man is made the villain just because he wants something different than the woman. The narrative is always "why can't guys just understand that women sometimes only want friendship." Everyone is supposed to validate the woman's feelings while dismissing and invalidating the man's feelings. He's fallen in love with her and wants more, but he is wrong for having those feelings.

THAT was an awesome answer. I learned that one the hard way, but learned it, I did.

Or just wait until she sorts of her feelings and gets together with the same/another guy, then stop being a looser and focus on other relationships. The thing that these people like the most is disloyalty. Just don't be faithful /loyal and live a fun, fulfilling life. Or be faithful and loyal to someone who you care and has the same feelings for you. Never make a friendship more than what it is. A good gauge to see if these people care for you or not is to just casually mentioning how attractive other women are around them, not necessarily on purpose (like be honest). If they respond aggressively, they probably either have feelings for you, or a problem with themselves.

John Smith has your ego taken a pounding

Vivek Rajkhowa no

Vivek Rajkhowa why would it?

Arun G that's so true

***** to be frank, I found both of them selfish in this video. The thing is the guy wants something more and the girl wants friendship. It's different things. Honestly they can be together, if say the guy's intensity of feeling towards the girl is not very strong. You see exes being friendly. It's basically that. But if the guy feels intensely for that girl, the friendship won't survive.

The Valiant Atheist this is hardly a friendship. they seem codependent emotionally. male friendships are a lot less complicated. pep talks, ball busting, sports, beer, opposite sex discussions, intellectual discussions but no feelings shit. no wonder male friendships last long

Arun G That's also why men rely on women so much for emotional support.

Cindreia31 true but it also gets messy

yup, or manipulate her for things you want.

@@nickdipaolofan5948 at least both parties will be getting what they want

BINGO. Thank you for thinking objectively. :)

Bella Avalos I agree. She needs to find a female friend that will not have romantic feelings for her. It's nearly impossible for a man not to be romantically attracted to a woman he spends a lot of time with. It's natural

Youth is wasted on the young. I'm going to get called "creepy" but that's fine with me and I'm old enough not to care what people think any more. I'm 43, never married, no kids, and spend the majority of my time alone and will probably die that way, so I am the last person to be giving out relationship advice. However in my opinion the problem is that neither of them are mature enough to change for the other one. When the girl said no the guy should of dropped it, but would of going out on a date with him been so bad? I'm talking a first date, no touching, just exploring the relationship further without any expectations whatsoever. Also, that snuggle at the beginning is super awkward, unless you know 100% the other person is going to be comfortable with that then it should be avoided.

Unfortunately, women and logic don't mix. A simple problem that can easily be resolved is always blown out of proportion with them

Bella Avalos PREACH IT

macknmake said nobody ever

Flight Doc No . The ideal answer is YES !

Flight Doc well, things come out wrong during a real life conversation, soo I think this is more realistic.

Well, I was in this exact situation a while back, and this is what I said. Saying this will: 1.) Allow a guy (or girl) to walk away with a clear mind, despite the outcome, knowing that their best was given 2.) Place the other person in a situation where, they understand you fully and are now in the position to decide whether they can accommodate the way you feel 3.) Also, if they still don't understand, or continue irrationally, they probably are not worth it to begin with, all the more reason to move on 4.) If someone were in the position to say this, and they choose not to out of fear of losing this person, then they are placing the person on a pedestal, and are choosing to continue hurting themselves

Flight Doc well, you must be one smooth guy. (not sarcasm)

No, just "seasoned" lol. Also, I know these situations suck, and they do hurt - esp. if they are navigated the wrong way

COIL MercurialFYZX SYMBOLISM

Sky Moore Well damn, you got me.

Sky Moore fuck, he got me too.

Lol

I'm starting to doubt everything I've ever believed in

Omg! Lmao!

Pretty obvious right? These friendzoned guys see it as an opening.

boltobolt12 even though it's not. I'm a guy and even I know that's actually more a closed time, in a time of sadness most girls won't like anyone

some people lack tact it's unfortunate.

I don't know.. Maybe think it's going to make her feel better knowing she's loved

yeah like thats the worst fucking time to throw that at someone. how dense can you be?

smartest comment on this video thank you for sanity

piggyshoe THANK YOU, THE ONLY SANE PERSON IN THIS COMMENT SECTION

Finally some sense

So glad I found this sensible and reasonable comment. The majority of this comment section is a dumpster fire of both sides just hating on one another lol

PREACH IT!!!!

Lil Nicole It's pretty relative though

Ikr!

some people have the younger type look.

love no age french: l'amour n'a pas d'âge et est aveugle. im 25yrs old and some people see me 21 some people looks younger or some looks older

I'm 25 and people often asume i'm 17 when they don't know me so...

lucky.

Elizabeth Chute it is amazing

deadly beauty, the wonders fudge you. (Jk ur amazing XD)🌈✨🍃🤘🏽

I wish my guy friends were gay so I wouldn't have to deal with it.

Elizabeth Chute 0% chance of eloping confirmed

Amen.

Well done

I’m gonna use that thanks

You are basically saying Men can not be friends with women,They only show compassion so they can screw with women. Says a lot about men.. they are only interested in dating or segs

Justin Mendoza in an emotional situation people aren't usually presenting the best arguments and reasoning :P

What would you suggest?

Justin Mendoza ... true, but this was obviously filmed from the woman's perspective, so we should expect most of the effort to have gone into fleshing out her feelings. sad that the opportunity to make a truly great piece of art (by presenting both sides equally well) was missed.

Nothing shows both sides equally, that's not the goal. Everything has a point of view.

With this film, I actually wanted to focus on her perspective more than his, because in films/TV/pop-culture the male perspective is typically more represented in this topic. One of my female friends once said something about the friend zone that I'll never forget: "When guys complain about being in the friend zone, it's like they're complaining about being friends with you." And for sure, having romantic feelings for someone who doesn't reciprocate them is very hard (I've been there), but there's another side to the story.

I'm always confused about the timing. When would be a decent time to express your feelings to a friend in a time like this?

impulse well in my opinion whenever you are ready to get rejected and move on

The guy should just stop being her 'friend'. He could actually spend time improving himself or support his actual gf. Not a girl who doesn't like you.

No Spacegoat92. waiting for a better time to tell a person that you are actually not interesed in them as a person, only as a love intereset won't work. there is no time for such a thing.

when their head is clear on a clear day some way neutral. and if you have to say good bye keep it dignified

S4RD0NYX SC3PT1C so the woman can use the man as emotional support but when she's done with she goes and dates someone else yeah really great. that's "friendship" coming from a woman.

S4RD0NYX SC3PT1C so her expecting him to only cater to her feelings is not bad? Good to know you are a sexist and narrowminded... the right outcome there... is something like... BOY: I like you.... Girl: I like you as a friend only... Boy: ok then i'm gonna go then cause i want more and you don't.... Girl: ok sorry I don't feel the same but i hope you find someone that does... Your version... BOY: I like you.... Girl: I like you too... Boy: let's date... Girl: Not happening but you must stay my friend and do my bidding whenever i want... can't stand morons like you... Men need to have more self worth and stand up to this little girls and let them know they are not made of gold...infact they were made from the rib of a man if you believe the bible.

❤

The Bookwormie the side that puts other person in friend zone is stupid...

I think that people put them selves in the friend zone most of the time.

patrick witkowski But no one purposefully puts someone else in the friend zone, though. Sometimes love isn't requited, and there's nothing to be done about that. Unrequited love might hurt, but the other person doesn't owe the person in love anything.

The Bookwormie why it's called "the other side of the friend zone"

If someone if in that kind of one sided relationship that person should get out of it, not cry about being exploited.

Fayza Ali To be fair, she asked him over for support and a FRIEND, instead she Sorta got guilted for feeling like she Did and given s ultimatum of ”date me or your last support is Gone”. Not the easiest to be cool then and shift focous from how shitty you are feeling and treated to not ”hurt” someone and put them first.

She’s not selfish for not liking him. Attraction isn’t about ticking off boxes if the spark isn’t there then it isn’t there.

Agreed. so be aware and keep out.

Damn, you are the first chick who is legit about this. Bitchez be str8 up friendzoning guys to feel like they accomplished something in life worthy of a MTV special.👊😎

True I told them this even tho we were bestfreinds for 2 years but then I got freindzoned

That isn't the Friendzone. That's the person being a gold digger! Completely different than the Friendzone!

Damn girl......thank you for being honest.

@Pariah Not even vaguely?

@Pariah I knew this reply is recent purely because no one ever used this word back in 2017

PrimiusLovin Healthy male instincts there. Best listen to them.

I understand what you mean, the problem is when a man or a woman asks for the friendship of someone who has developed romantic feelings towards them. In the situation portrayed in this video, the person that just wants to be friends is using the other as a crutch to overcome a difficult moment, that's being selfish imo, or at least immature. He's being more honest with the situation, he's thinking on both of them, that they both have a common problem, that they both need attention and love, so why not take the next step towards a relationship. If she needs that kind of affection and attention from him, sorry, she needs a boyfriend, not a friend as she says.

i dont understand this though. arent friends supposed to be there in tough moments?? isnt that what a support group is about? granted if she ONLY ever calls in the tough times...then you're just using someone. But otherwise, i dont see any reason to think that its selfish to want someone there in a sad time especially if you're willing to return the favor whenever they're sad.

I guess it depends on the level of friendship each one of us has, Vanessa. If she wanted to overcome the situation then why not ask him to go out and watch a movie they both like or do any other activity they might have in common to try and forget how she feels about the other guy. That way she wouldn't come out as being needy and selfish. The level of attention and affection portrayed in the video, showing all those emotions, how she feels devastated, cuddling in the couch and what not... to me, that's boyfriend territory! But don't take my advise, I'm no expert in the dealing with the subject because when I'm faced with a similar situation I never rely on friends to overcome it, in fact, all I want is to be left alone for some time!

PrimiusLovin How is it selfish? She was never dating him, that's like saying I'm not allowed to have friends who are girls and a girlfriend. Being a "nice guy" and supporting someone when they need it doesn't mean you're entitled to a relationship or sex which they're not comfortable with.

No, it doesn't. It can be invigorating letting go of people.

Definitely agree.

Yes, but time will cure the pain. In friend zone there is a constant pain, uncurable without changes in the life

She said no. She shouldn't even have to justify it.

Nadia Bartrand He wanted to leave. He shouldn't have to justify it.

''He shouldn't have to justify it'' She wanted him to justify it cause her ego ( illusion) was hurt. Simple and i agree he shouldve just left.

@@vsiny lemme guess, you are a feminist.....

Macedonicus Exactly. Funny how some people don’t ever think that far ahead unless they have some personal issues with the opposite sex and think their more superior like feminists for example

^This needs to be appreciated more

ugh it's the fucking worst. I hate guys like that with a passion. So often as well I make it clear from the start that I'm not interested, so they act like they genuinely wanna be friends until they realise I'm really not interested and stop talking to me... guys need to learn to take no for an answer

i dont think you try to understand "guys like that" tho. il talk about me and i know i cant be the only one of this kind. i dont choose to be nice around a girl, talk to her spend a lot of time with / for her just because hes has great boobs or sth. i take a liking to a person, i talk with them, an if the more i talk the more i like them, i become friends with them. after! that, if we are talking about a girl, i may develop feelings for her. sometimes its ok, i accept that she isnt interested that way and we stay friends. but sometimes those feelings may be rly strong, and just being around her knowing nothing is going to happen is just too hard, so i decide to lose a friend in favour of my emotional health. its not like i tricked them or played the nice guy just to get her cmon

If your feelings are gradually developing and weren't there from the start then you're not the kinda guy I am referring to. I get a lot of guys who from the start clearly like me, but I send very clear "no" signals, or even say straight out, "no" but they still continue on as though I am somehow mistaken in my own feelings.

Perla Ramos exactly!

Dude, I'm pretty sure he can go meet other women instead of simping over one chick who clearly doesn't have any romantic or sexual interest in him. LOL.

@@obitouchiha6439 that's the idea. He can and should, however she'll hold it against him.

@@10101polo1 That's not his problem. He needs to grow up and stop the oneitis obsession.

It never gets easier. I lost a 17 year old friendship to this exact situation.

If you like them enough to be friends and not have them out of your life then why so hesitant to date them? Perhaps you have all these high standards you judge them by in which case they shouln't even be friends with you to begin with

RIP Clover

@@therandom-tj7ty wait, did she really die?

@@adayinforever yep

Dear,being friend is all about it.If you don't want to be an emotional tampon,speak about love not friendship and not be ''friends"until,you are not in relationships,OK?no need to pretend like you are an emotional tampon,when you just want love and sex

Mm Ee ikr, it's been a good minute for her issues and she sure sobered up when he started up

Why being it up when she is in pain tho? It doesn't make any sense

@@antonioaguirre9295 prolly cz he only realised that when she dated the other guy n he started getting jealous but he kept it to himself n waited till things got done for to tell her... also he prolly feared that she would meet another person n then he would be stuck again...

@@4kram207 you have a point but he could have admitted it in a better way or a better time like when she is talking to a new guy or any time other than when she is overwhelmed with feelings. Like I admitted my feelings as a secondary message and my primary message is that she should focus on her happiness and well being. However, he didn't practice self love or even minimal selflessness that comes with being someone's friend. In other words, he put forth a topic that is potentially friendship ending during a time that the focus was not on his feelings but her hurting. It's like asking for owed payment while your friend is heading to the hospital or is losing their house. It is a valid issue but the timing of being it up is exploitative and selfish.

Relatable

blood line ohh I do know what it is, my question do they?

blood line I do know why I don't have it. And that's because the world has become to dynamic for me...and honestly I don't care. The love of my family is all I'm gonna have or need.

blood line well if u got one u can try. Not like I've heard every advice ever. Go for it

blood line I'm sorry I don't get it pls explain again 😓 simpler sorry

She needs to get that he doesn't owe her either, he does not owe friendship to her. Relationships are 2 way streets. If you reject the kind of relationship one person wants with you, then why should they accept the kind of relationship you want with them? Relationships, friendship included, only work if both people are of similar emotional states toward each other.

She doesn't want to date him but he can still be the first person to hear about it when she meets a guy she does want to date!

when did he imply that she owes him anything? he's just into her. and coincidentally creepy and has terrible timing..

Sloe Bone why would he want to hear that

She needs to get that being around someone you love but doesn't love you back makes shit emotionally tones harder for the guy

Don't be friend if you can't.Its not girls fault. End "friendship",don't play a victim.

[HQ]Life well said.

Thank you 🙂

Max Ramos how about he got out of the friend zone?

Max Ramos But then wouldn't that actually be just friends??

Max Ramos it mean he left the friendzone honestly sometimes is better break the friendship up because is more trouble than it's worth it

Well its actually a depiction of a guy finally breaking out of a friend zone by putting the issue of his feelings toward her on the table, instead of suffering silently in a relationship that isn't what he actually wants.

Fay Gz That's why he is choosing to leave instead, I don't think he's wrong for that

Paola Gutierrez I agree on that.

Fay Gz If you agree with with him leaving then why the fuck did you make your initial comment?

RealityHurts923 Because he kept asking why wouldn't she date him and he even asked if he is not attractive enough. He kept saying about how great they would be together and that they "should" date. I agree with him leaving, I just don't agree with him trying to convice her that they should be together.

Fay Gz what you're saying is he doesn't even get to know why he's being rejected even tho they're great friends. it doesnt reslly make sense so you should understand his confusion. also sometimes one side can be confused initially cause they never saw the other side in that way and they automatically reject the idea even though she might ot know thats actually good. he pushed a bit didnt do anything wrong given that only after like lne single minute of questioning her lol he realized its hopeless anyway and went off. its not like he constantly harasses her to date him

To play"friendzone"?right?

Crimson Clover If he had been a She would you feel the same?

Thank you! Now I think we should go to dinner

Alex Orellana I disagree. I mean it can be hard but I liked a guy 4 years ago and he didn't like me that way, but after like a year I got over my crush and now we are just good friends.

corrina ethridge that's good that you got over him but I'm saying it's impossible to stay friends with someone when you still have feelings for them.

I guess that's true but when I liked him we were still friends. It probably depends more on the person or situation

Alex Orellana not true. I think it depends on the circumstances, I had feelings for someone. He friendzoned me, I wanted to stop being friends because it was too hard but he tried so hard to show how much he cares. Today he's one of my closest friends and I'm glad that he fought so hard for our friendship because we do have a connection

Alex Orellana I think it can be hard in some cases, but to say it's impossible to stay friends with someone you have feelings for is just incorrect. I tend to get crushes on people I'm friends with fairly easily, but I still stay friends with them despite them not returning the feelings. I was legitimately in love with this one girl for a year and a half, and I stayed friends with her despite her not returning the feelings. Eventually I got over it, and we're still good friends.

SJ So true.

Taka Masuda Doing favours? Dating etc someone you REALLY never could see as more than a friend out of... What, pity? Guilt?

MissVasques or maybe out of the realization that a guy that is going to do this much for you would probably be good really good relationship material?

Taka Masuda amen

MissVasques do favors back for him equally or get the hint that he likes you and tell him it’s not happening. Don’t drag it out because it’s convenient to have free servants.

Catherine George THIS

YOU ARE AMAZING HUMAN BEING WITH AN AMAZING POINT OF VIEW AND THANK YOU!!!

because that is the case. platonic friendship and being with someone are completely different on a fundamental level. Both can be gems in their own way, but being in love with someone means that no matter what you find yourself doing things for them without them asking you for it. The acts of love are much more intimate than that of a friendship, which you cannot share, then it would not be friendship. Friendship is a more lighthearted version of love, like love of your family. do not confuse the two, both have purpose and benefits. But having love of a friend is not the same as having the feeling of love that makes you want to share your life with someone in a much closer way.

Yeah, it's different. Of course it's different. If it wasn't different, there wouldn't be 2 different words. But that doesn't mean platonic is less. Hell, most of the time it's a better relationship. But people don't value their friends, because everyone wants to get a romantic relationship.

Platonic love is fine if its all that both parties are interested in.

He was only wrong for not walking away and he shouldn’t had to explain himself and she was wrong for keeping him from leaving and respecting his feelings even though she doesn’t feel the same way. He doesn’t owe her a friendship and she doesn’t owe him a romantic relationship

Pretty sure you are talking about unrequited love

Al Unrequited love with someone who still likes you as a friend is my definition of the friend zone. Unrequited love can also be with someone who doesn't want anything to do with you.

The guy insinuated that he only wanted sex, but it’s selfish of her to not give him a hand (literally and metaphorically) if he’s comforting her, why is she selfish enough not to comfort him also?

him wanting to be with her does not mean he is just looking for sex. it that were the case he would just offer her to be friends with benefits.

@@elessal or hookup

Akshat giri when is he supposed to tell her then? A month after? A year later? Perhaps he wanted her badly and wasn't able to hold his feelings any longer. I mean, the guy didn't force the girl into having a relationship with him. He just wanted to express how he felt.

I actually have been "friendzoned," possibly twice, depending on how you define it. And yeah, maybe sometimes going separate ways is the only option, if the feelings are extremely strong or have been growing for a real long time. But this video is called "The Other Side of the Friendzone" because it's supposed to take a look at the "friendzoner's" perspective (in this case, the girl). And even if the guy is right to leave, I think we can all agree that it sucks for her. She's losing a close friend just because she isn't attracted to him. Too often only the guy/friendzoned perspective is shown (though it obviously can be a girl who's friendzoned too), and the girl is shown as shallow and stupid. But think of it this way: most guys wouldn't date a girl who they're not attracted to, even if she is great. So why do we expect girls to? Anyway, sorry this post is so long and meandering! It's a complex issue for sure, and I'm not one to say that you're necessarily wrong. You might be right, and probably are in some situations. Here were my own two experiences with the "friend zone": 1) In middleschool, and high school I had a huge crush on a friend, and when I finally told her, she didn't have the same feelings. We remained friends after that, but admittedly were a less close (though part of that was because I left for college). Also, we'd never been best friends, just good friends in a group. 2) The second time was in college, and only sort of counts, but it did effect the writing of this script. I was pretty close friends with another girl, but wasn't in to her to begin with because I was still hung up on a someone else. I talked to her about that stuff, and it was very platonic. But I got to thinking eventually that I got along with her so well and liked her so much that maybe I wanted to make sure that would last. (There's a similar line in the video, though in a slightly different context). I thought "some day she'll get in a relationship, and we won't be able to be quite as close as we are now then. Plus, if we're not dating, we'll probably go our separate ways after college." So I kind of grew feelings for her because of that, and when I expressed them, she ended up turning me down. But i made it very clear to her that I still wanted to be friends, and we stayed good friends for the rest of college, and then we moved to opposite sides of the country. Now staying friends was a little easier for me in that situation because the feelings for her had grown out of a place of really valuing the friendship in the first place. And after the initial sting of rejection, it was nice to keep on hanging out with her. Goes to show, there are different situations and different answers. But I do think guys need to understand the other side better, and value platonic friendships way more than they do, without always looking to "upgrade" to a romantic one. I've had some very meaningful platonic friendships with girls. And one of them, when we were making a different short film about friend zones, said something that inspired this film. "When guys complain about being in the friend zone, it's like they're complaining about being friends with you." I'll never forget that. That's not all there is to the situation, but that's definitely a valid perspective. After all, if you're "in the friend zone", at least you have a friend. It could be worse.

no I don't think you have been friendzoned 4:20 they are arguing about platonic love vs non platonic love like which ice cream is better chocolate or vanilla . And I have asked this question but I have seen it's been deleted but why at 5:20 when she is talking about other people she loves (platonically ) her mother , sister and her old high school friend from Wyoming . Why didn't she call those people instead of this guy . I have a question for her if this guy was in a relationship would have she called him in the 1st place

My grandmother told me once. "Joshua a man and women cannot be friends there are some special cases where it works but most of the time one has some type of atraction towards the other for example your godfather and that girl Tatiana he says they are just friends but i´m 100% she wants his cock in her real bad"

They can be just friends, but if one wants more, that should be addressed. Otherwise it turns toxic.

Indigo Tiger very well written and exlained...good job

I do feel like the guy was exaggerated, but it's good to acknowledge both sides have their points. Mainly, they both want something different.

Indigo Tiger fucking THANK YOU I was that guy my best friend was conceived and born along side me and we were raised together at 13 we started "being 13 year old young adults if the opposite sex" And I fell hard shit was a match made in heaven everyone agreed But tall guy Mccheating abbs at her school came along and moved in with her for seven years and now I have no desire to continue to romanticize us as I was nothing more the an a third wheel all the while knowing how I felt And now he's gone and she's sad and I can easily move in and secure the relationship but I feal its not the most self respecting thing to do and I know some other guy is just gonna come along and merry her But I've literally just given up the pain I felt will never go away and it has damaged me in regards of every relationship I continue to have as these patterns tend to repeat Girls want the top 20% of males And as a result I no longer want those girls at all I am a mgtow and it is a reaction to the depth of my romanization of love And I hope more men go mgtow for their own reasons If the demand for men goes up thean MABY SOMEONE will care

I think the guy had feelings for her from the beginning, but he was probably to afraid to say anything so he put himself in the friendzone which is the worst thing to do. I been through this and I had to learn the hard way. So, if you see someone you want to date tell them don't wait around, and if she says no you can move on. As Biggie would say, I don't chase em, I replace em!

Tears

Treetop Sprites What you're talking about is lust, not love. Love is not a phase, it's forever.

IncipientBeauty Maybe you should tell her about your true feelings before breaking up your friendship. Who knows, maybe she has the same feelings & is just afraid of expressing them just like you. Then that'll be a terrible tragedy. & what the worst can happen? You'll get rejected & it gonna break up your friendship. But you're gonna break it off anyway. So why not first take a chance. At least you'll know & when you're 80 you won't have to look back & wonder what if. Take a chance man & have faith. Just a little bit of courage or regret for the rest of your life, the choice is your to make. Best wishes. ✌

wise words... maybe. but i understand what you mean. asking will bring me closure. :)

IncipientBeauty Perfectly written. I agree with you and can totally relate to your response.

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Evolution Daily yo I didn't expect to see you here Aaron lol