There's a tiny editing oopsie in the beginning of the video where there's a repeated line about the concept of the game. I would normally delay a video to fix something like this but since it's almost XMas we're just going to roll with it so my editor (Jacob) can finally get a break. He works his butt off, as I'm sure you can tell, so make sure to send him some love!! Happy holidays! Luke

All we wanted was a Factions mode similar to the original in part 2. We didn't want an overly ambitious live service game

People didn’t even want them to go 110% into live service. We just wanted factions for part 2

This obsession with live-service needs to stop, or if studios do a live-service, it's needs to be excellent. Like honestly, how many live-service games can we really have going on? It'd be a different story if all the live-service games that collasped during the last few years were good....but that's the thing, they were awful. But it is sad to see the potential of TLOU:Online will never be realized but I commend ND for sticking to their guns for what they are known for.

They went too big. All they needed to do was make a factions 2 and launch it with the game...

12 live service games is insane. Where do they think all these players who will dump thousands of hours into each one are going to come from? People who play single player games tend to play single player for a reason.

I do find it odd that the reasoning was “we can’t be just a live-service game dev team” when literally no one asked for that. People wanted Factions 2, that doesn’t need to be live-service. It coulda just been the same as before with larger maps, roaming infected, multiple teams and obv the enhancements from Part 2.

Taking advice from Bungie on player retention is hilarious.

It gladdens my heart to see so many abandoning the live service model.

While it’s unfortunate this won’t see the light of day on the other hand I just want us to move on from Last of Us and get to play something new from Naughty Dog

Last of us factions and uncharted multiplayer were always fun

Another episode of ‘Devs getting the community wrong’ All we wanted was an updated version of factions. It was amazing in its first iteration and just needed freshening up. We didn’t want a full live service game

Since I was a huge fan of the first factions multiplayer, I was waiting for this freaking new multiplayer ever since they revealed the trailer for Last of Us 2 back in 2016. It’s unbelievable how they dropped the ball here. This game had the potential to become the next big F2P game on the market, after Fortnite.

Pretty disappointing news. The last of us factions was fantastic and unique, was hoping to get to relive that.

Im wary of Bungies involvement in the shut down of the Last of Us online. I feel like what Naughty Dog had mightve been really good and Bungie were threatened by them, fearing the possibility of Sony acquiring them, fearing Naughty dog wouldve absorbed the Bungie team inorder to produce the rest of the content for The Last of Us Online. Just seems weird to me the game was dropped sometime after Bungies evaluation of what Naughty Dog had so far, especially considering Bungies not-so-well-received add-ons for Destiny 2 Little sussy

I don’t think the online presence would last long. Big hype and spike from new and old players but i think it would slow down within less then a year. Way too many fun online games to play and new ones coming out every year

I would have played the hell out of this, most probably. Pure coop games with this level of fidelity and gameplay mechanics, that are coop vs PvE, and not extraction shooters and all that, are really rare. This was actually a game that Sony should have had in their portfolio. It's a shame they can't, but its true that losing Naughty Dog as a singleplayer developer would have been a worse outcome.

I didn't want another garbo live-service game. I didn't want yet another MP game made by some studio with a billion live-service games under their belt. I wanted to see Naughty Dog's take on a multiplayer game. I wanted to see what a team that are masters of single player could do with a fully multiplayer game. I specifically wanted Factions 2 BECAUSE it was being made by Naughty Dog, so you could imagine my extreme disappointment to hear Bungie of all people did an internal review and found Factions 2 lacking. Like wtf? Idgaf what Bungie thinks! Just because they've made a forever game that forces people to login every day with time wasting mechanics designed specifically to increase playtime instead of actually being fun doesn't mean they know how to make a good MP game. I really think Naughty Dog had a chance to change the industry here and set a new standard for video games, but instead Sony wanted to force ND to chase trends instead of pushing the envelope. Think about it, so many great genre defining games were made by teams with an entirely different perspective on said genre. I think the biggest example is World of Warcraft (the original game, not what it is today)... WoW was made by a team of devs that had only made isometric games up until that point. Sure they had multiplayer components but the real thrust of Warcraft and Diablo was the single player element. However, this team had ZERO experience making an MMO. They had a whole new set of eyes on the genre and ended up making the most popular MMORPG in history. This is what I think Naughty Dog was capable of with Factions 2 had they been given free reign to do their thing. I understand that, at a certain point, they needed to consider how this project might affect their studio and take resources away from future SP protects, but I really think this game could've been big enough had they just finished it without any long-term development plans; and even if they did, I think a game like this could be profitable enough to warrant expanding the studio and dedicating a smaller team to adding future content (such as maps, skins, weapons, modes, etc). Truly a missed opportunity but, considering what we've seen of the situation, it's probably for the best the project was cancelled because seeing that "Battle Pass" tab on the leaked main menu really made my heart sink. This could've been something special, man...

The idea of a slow paced BR style game with the combat/mechanics of the last of us, where a spore cloud pushes in closing damage over time to spores, and infected in a perimeter around the remaining players, and either being an extraction mode or standard BR sounds really fun to me. I get its ambitious but it seems like a good secondary mode to play after you play the story mode.

I remember playing on PS3 way back, it was solid. Reminded me of my old Socom glory days on PS2 in a way.

As for that woman sitting in the room, I believe her fingers are actually clipping into her leg, which gives them that tapered look. Dealing with 3D models in rendering applications myself, I make sure to have the fingers sitting in more realistic positions, so it seems whoever did this didn't want to bother with that and it was easy to point out.

That reverse psychology at the end there *chefs kiss* if only I could sub twice. Happy holidays to you and yours luke!❤️

Waited a decade for a new Factions MP experience, just for them to release TLOU2 with no Factions mode, then given false hope with the live-service multiplayer extraction shooter teaser, just for them to cancel it. Naughty Dog will never get another dollar from me.

I don't see Naughtydog as a juggernaut in storytelling anymore after the TLOU2. TLOU1 was so good because the story was constructed by a team with Bruce Straley and Neil Druckmann. They all worked to keep eachothers bad ideas in check. With TLOU2 the story was crafted almost exclusively by Neil Druckmann and it shows. The dialogue and storytelling is no better than something you'd watch on the CW channel. The only reason it's gotten any attention is because it's piggybacking off of the exceptional storytelling from TLOU1. The new characters are no where near as compelling as Joel and Ellie even when they tried as hard as they did with Abbie. Naughtydog ruined their crown jewel.

Man the last of us multiplayer was the best thing ever . Me and my boys would stay up night after night and just play the online . So mad it’s never going to be a thing again

When Tarkov is mentioned, would like to add that Tarkov devs support russian occupation.

18:45 guess me and Ai have something in common. Cant draw fingers on hands at ALL lmao

All this shows me is, I will never buy another naughty dog project ever again.

we also saw this happen with mmos and its comin back around again, everyone realized mmos could make serious money, next thing you know there are 100 mmos released in a few years, the market falls apart because you either knockoff mmos and the playerbase is split. dozens of battle royals, dozens of mmos, once again time is a flat circle

Can’t wait for The Last Of Us Part 2.5 Directors Cut Remaster: Remake on PS6!

I'm hoping for the success of Helldivers 2 showing Sony that it's worth salvaging this game

Me and my brother loved playing the old factions mp mode and were really excited for the game, but glad to see they’d rather put out quality work

I'm now seeing articles online that "Multiplayer is dead" and I'm just.... I can't... Why tf is the gaming industry obsessed with going balls to the wall in one direction? They've been incapable of finding a good balance for the past decade. First, it was, "Singleplayer is dead". We then had a singleplayer drought for years, where developers and publishers just didn't give af about singleplayer and just wanted to keep pushing multiplayer. Are we really now going to see the pendulum swing hard the other way? Are we now going to have several years of not seeing any good quality, immersive multiplayer games while every dev and their mother focuses on singleplayer? Like... Can we PLEASE just have a healthy balance.... please?!?!

After seeing how huge the budgets are in the Insomniac leaks, I understand why Jim Ryan wanted to get some GAAS games going. When games end up costing 500M+/ needs to sell 8M copies just to break even; having a GAAS recurring revenue safety net makes sense.

that tlou:o "real screenshot" is 100% not ai generated her right hand is just being viewed from a bad angle which makes all hands look weird and her left hand is just clipping into her pants (no pointy fingers) the window makes sense perspective wise, looks like one of those rounded window things in american houses that extrude out the lamp is just untextured and so are the picture frames source: im a 3d modeller, imo theres a 50 50 chance thats a real leak of an unfinished menu or just a mock up, seeing as it looks unfinished im leaning towards it being an actual leak edit: apparently those "rounded window things in american houses that extrude out" are called bay windows if you want to look at what i mean

I played Factions mp at least 2k hours (close to rank 999 if you combine PS3 and PS4 versions). Yeah, I'm pretty sad it's been scrapped because it was one of my favorite mp games of all time. My youtube icon was a custom icon I made from ps3 version of factions, btw.

Imagine a decade of development and last place Sony still can't finish a single game. 🤦🏻

“A little bit of an oopsie”😂😂😂😂

The finger is clipping into the pants, and that's called a bay window.

it still makes me laugh how bungie wanted to go do destiny, then destiny 2 they go independent saying that they would do so much better independently, then get acquired by sony, only to end up a company in ruins with its history being trampled on and soon to be completely dismantled by sony. Lungie

Yeah, Bungie isn't the arbiter of good games like everyone seems to want to believe, that ended with Reach.

Edison 'I have not failed, but found 1000 ways to not make a light bulb' Naughty Dog 'so... we spent 100 million dollars, and we're pretty confident we've found one way to not make a ND game'

People who never taught directing schools. Politicans directing the military. Dudes in suits directing video game companies. This crap just never ends well. Leaders should be required to actually show some sort of experience in the field of their work.

17:40 i dont think its ai generated just looks like a bad 3d render, the fingers seem to be clipping into the leg

I just want naughty dog to make something new. As much as I love the last of us, I’m tired of remakes and remasters and sequels. I’ve poured more than 1k hours in the last of us, a non live service game also

Happy holidays Luke. Its to no surprise that naughty dog would walk away from this. I was looking forward to it as It seemed like a neat idea. I still love Naughty Dog. I think they are a great studio who brought us, Uncharted trilogy. As Christmas approaches, just want to say thank you for this year. I am looking forward what you bring in 2024!

Years after years after the last of us 1 i was playing the multi-player mostly came back to play with freinds from highschool

Lou2 effectively destroyed ND as studio with its "revenge is bad" narrative while glorifying violence with benefit of doubt given for gameplay but that's it & LOU was already an overhyped western IP by the audience whose sheen wears off as time passes. That is why its more annoying to see any last of us IP since ND really feels like they are dead in creatives with how they are banking everything on LOU IP for the last decade atleast (incomplete pc ports of Uncharted dont count since its prob a different team working on those) Reason I bring it up is : Just go and play Sifu , if u want a good revenge story that really changes in second run where u have the option to actually spare the ppl who would in reality just fking run away and come back with backup if their life was just spared after getting their a**es handed to them just a min back not comeback for round 2 with no backup.

i was a huge fan of the online portion from the first Last of Us game, it was incredible and lots of fun, I am sad to hear they cancelled this new version, perhaps some non live service version of it will get implemented in a future Last of Us game.

Merry Christmas!

Wonder what they’ll do with their next last of us game. The 20 year time gap between Tommy and Joel would be pretty fun.

Meanwhile I’m still playing FACTIONS, 10 years later more than any other multiplayer game.

I have well over 1000 hours in the original Factions. A good but simple 4v4 mode is all anybody wanted that should have been included in the base game. Same concept with upgraded mechanics and graphics. Sony being greedy and Fuckstick Bungie, that can't even keep their own company open hardly. ND is that that damn stupid. They would have known from the beginning that they didn't have enough staff to do both live services and single player. They were forced and wasted everyone's time.

Frankly I was pissed because we didn’t get a multiplayer included in the sequel when they could’ve kept it similar to the first survivors mode. Instead they withheld that content for something more ambitious. Only to cancel it. So essentially we payed less for a more complete game, but payed more for a incomplete sequel.

I still play last of us factions. Literally never loses its fun. Blows they stopped working on the new one

Im a big factions fan from the first game. Ive been waiting 10 years for factions 2. Bummed out about this but hopefully in the future they do something with last of us mp. Hopefully whenever last of us 3 comes out

Sucks they couldn’t just add a watered down version to TLOU 2 remaster 😢

Naughty Dog is being spanked for money by Sony instead of breaking off and doing what they were talented to do, making multiplayer games. As Tommy said, "What a joke...."

I hate the "we either had to make multiplayer or singleplayer games only" argument, that's not at all true, they have more employees than FromSoftware, a renowned studio that was working on Elden Ring, Armored Core 6 and the Elden Ring DLC at the same time. They have roughly the same number of employees as Bethesda Game Studos, a divisive but relatively beloved company that just released a game, is currently making another and also has a multiplayer game currently up and running.

Its so funny that all we wanted was a multiplayer Supply Run game with the movement and maps themed around part two with occasional new weapons executions and maps..... and instead they overdid it and absolutely collapsed

I didn't even know Fair Games existed.

I waited 10 fucking years for this only for them to cancel it. Fuck Naughty Dog, they're washed and I'm not interested in whatever they do anymore.

I wonder how much the Arkane situation with Redfall impacted their decision.

The biggest crime here was declining a sequel to Days Gone to have that team work on this doomed piece of shit. Naughty Dog has lost anyone who meant anything to Naughty Dog. They are officially a blacklisted company.

thats not bad AI hands, that bad positioning of 3d hands. not interacting properly with the things around it. Like the hands on the thighs are just clipping through. Its a rough screenshot of something not final.

As soon as I heard they were gonna not launch with factions 2 and were making it a separate game I was excited then immediately got nervous. We didn't need a big overblown battle royal or live service thing all they needed was to expand the factions mode to take advantage of the graphical and game play improvement of the sequel. As a huge fan of the original factions mode this was a bug bummer but oh well it is what it is

I love it when they get the statistics of "so many people are not subscribed" the first thing you do is unsubscribe from the channel

It makes even more anger when I see the no return mode with makings of a multiplayer 🤬

Factions was so fun in the OG TLOU. I spent so many hours playing that shit. Hopefully modders can make a version of it with TLOU Remake

This was the only Sony live service game I was willing to give a try to be honest, oh well, guess more single player games by naughty dog is a win anyway

I don't see why they don't just release it! It doesn't have to be live service

For those checking comments before watching, he doesn’t say anything new, just what we already know.

I feel like they should just remaster Factions. It was ahead of its time and seemed basic and simple to maintain. They’d be able to just release new weapons, weapon skins, player outfits, executions, maps, etc. every so often to keep a basic fan base. Poor management and dropped ball, in my opinion

I literally just played the original Factions for the first time a couple weeks ago and I'm hooked. I was hyped for Factions 2 and would have bought a PS5 to play it.

I wonder if hiring a third party company to create the last of us online would be possible.

instead of putting resources to TLOU online they decided to remaster the first game twice and "remake the second game only a couple years after its release all with in one decade. SMH

They could sell a last of us Fractions as a 50 dollar experiences with the old maps remastered and the maps from last of us 2

Ya know Sony's reaction to the end of the Killzone franchise was the same moment the Sony Incorporated blatantly basically said to us: FUCK MULTIPLAYER!!! Playstation Executives have told every Gaming News Outlet/Publication to repetitively say the phrase "Story Driven" so many times until the words felt like they were being shoved up our asses. Not a single exclusive has a priority in online functionality and thus PS Plus has been irrelevant and completely ignored by everybody ever since 2017.

Some people said about 1 year+ ago , that this project will flop ( for various reasons ) That makes me now wonder ,was that all just a random guess / hate .. Or have i been very close to actual inside circles ( in a way )

Here's hoping its not scrapped completely and at least some form of it is added into the next tlou

13:00 When was Last of Us part 2 received well?

ND needs to be cleaned out like Twitter was.

Here is the issue I have. Uncharted 2 launched with a solid single player that was really liked and a fun multiplayer. Uncharted 3 launched with a single player that was liked a lot too, and also had a multiplayer mode. The Last of Us launched with a phenomenal single player offering and a unique and great multiplayer with Factions. Uncharted 4 launched with a fantastic single player experience and a really good multiplayer mode with a survival mode added later for free. The Last of Us Part 2 launched with a good but divisive single player and... no multiplayer offering. Dont get me wrong I love ND; but this was a reason I didnt love part 2. I felt like I got part of the complete package but didnt get the multiplayer experience that every ND game since 2009 had. Uncharted 2 probably got around 25 hours from me for single player, and another 40-50 for multiplayer. Uncharted 3 got about 20 hours from me in single player and 30-40 in multiplayer. Last of Us got about 40 hours from single player and another 80 from multiplayer. Uncharted 4 is insane for me. I did about 4 playthroughs so probably 40 ish hours for singleplayer, but another 180 hours from multiplayer. To this day I have about 30 hours in TLOU2. I never finished NG+ as I didnt enjoy the game as much as the other ND games, and there was zero multiplayer content. So for me, it makes the Last of Us 2 seem even worse off and incomplete. This getting canceled really proves in my mind that ND has fallen off in the last few years. What have they done since TLOU2 came out? Remasters, remakes, some really botched pc ports, and now a cancelled multiplayer mode for a game from over 3 years ago. It is laughable to me. GoW Ragnarok did not promise Valhalla. The team didnt say hey we are working on something and you should be super excited. They dropped a trailer at the game awards and then bam a few days later it was out. Sucker Punch did not promise multiplayer for Ghost of Tsushima, but only 3 months after launch a really fun coop mode came out. In addition there was no promise of an expansion but about a gear after launch Iki Island came out along with more content for the coop mode. In both of these scenarios, I was blown away. When me and my friends played GoT we all said man imagine if there was a dueling mode or even coop would be interesting, take on the Khan together or something like that. Sucker Punch delivered a great coop experience within months, Santa Monica provided an amazing free dlc within about a year, ND has made nothing that has interested me since TLOU2 and is now just dissapointing me. After this announcement I will not be buying their next game at launch and will wait for reviews. This legit kinda shattered my heart. I have loved Naughty Dogs games since my childhood from Crash to TLOU, I had so much fun. TLOU2 was a good game, but to me not a complete package and now they cancelled the one thing that I was excited for from them. I wanted factions 2. What I got was ND wasting time for multiple years and delivering nothing of substance. 5 years ago ND would have been in my top 2 Playstation studios, now they have dropped out of the top 5.

It's a bummer all the devs hard work will be for nothing, but in a way, I'm happy this game isn't coming out because I would much rather they focus on their single-player narrative driven games. I don't want all these Playstation Live Service games. I switched from Xbox to Playstation because their single player games are more engaging and critically praised. Not interested in a Spiderman Live-service looter shooter game.

Wouldn't be surprised if they just tack this onto Part 3

Not surprised live service games are being canceled. Dev costs are up, economic projections are down, inflation is still significant but interest rates are high. It’s hard to justify sinking a lot of money now with the expectation of a 3-5 year income stream required to break even. The returns on a single player game with a fixed price and a 2 year dev cycle must look overwhelmingly better since all your returns are front loaded. Plus TLoU is really hot right now due to the show, so Naughty Dog are not capitalizing on that by struggling to do a live service. Better to roll out a part 3 asap.

They gave 3.2 billion dollars to Bungie, they should have given that money to Naughty Dog. I don't understand Sony's reluctance to invest in their own studios. There should be several over 1000 devs by now the ones that have been successful for decades.

I don't think anyone expect single-player game developers to be good in MMO. It's usually a failure. Esp. if you wait a quality of LoU2 in a multiplayer game.

Sucks for the people that worked on this only for that work to get tossed out, but I can't tell you how happy I am to see multiplayer games evaporating into the ether. Give us solid, high quality single player games. I'll gladly throw my money at studios that deliver on that.

Soul crushing to think about what this could’ve been. Reassuring to know that Naughty Dog sticks to what they’re amazing at!

Stick to your lane is the lesson here for Naughty Dog. Sony should also stick to their developers strengths. Especially when it was working...

Does this mean that naughty dogs employees can talk about what it could have been and what they were doing or does the NDA still apply?

AHHH they canceled it. No wonder why I don’t see anymore players “john wicking” NPCs in story mode.

Was there really no way for naughty dog to just make the foundation of the game and then pass it off post launch to another sony studio to keep it going

All we wanted was a modern feeling factions mode and they had to make it into a standalone life service project

This multiplayer game will 100% be a part of the next Last of Us game as a side mode. I do not see the utility in scrapping millions of dollars and thousands of hours of dev time.

I have a PlayStation 5. But I have yet to find an interesting game that has pushed my PlayStation 5 to the limits. I remember saving up my last dollar to buy PlayStation 5 wanting to experience the haptic feedback and adaptive triggers, only to see 90% of companies throw that feature to the wayside, or either have it absent completely. It really broke my heart. I spend a lot of time playing games that I could just be playing on PS4 like GTA. There's not a single game out that really interests me. Where is the games with the huge open worlds, beautiful graphics, next level exploration and all of that? They just don't exist. GTA v uses a little bit of haptic feedback in adaptive triggers, but it's implemented in such a poor way that you barely notice it. Imagine if you were to drive a car in GTA, and you have to push a little bit harder on r2 as if you were putting your foot on a pedal. That's what I was expecting, I understand that this may not be so much a PlayStation thing as it is a developer thing, but they're not doing enough to incentivize developers to use the feature. we've just gotten the same crap that we've always gotten call of duty, ratchet & clank, nothing new, nothing exciting. I'm still waiting on that "next generation game". I hope to see it soon, the PlayStation pro is coming and it's devastating to realize that there's not a single game that makes me think "well I'm definitely going to need the PS5 pro"

I don't understand why they didn't just include Factions in the Last of Us Remastered.. I really miss playing factions...

Honestly.. the more I hear about Bungies involvement at this point, the more I question whether dropping it was the right idea after all. Bastions of success BUNGIE!? Who are currently burning any remaining goodwill AGAIN and the vast majority of their player base currently despises them.

It’s funny how all these single player loyalists keep saying they happy the single player experience, is number 1 priority. However, they said the online came with a story and new characters.