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High refresh monitors, force sensitive keyboards, and even gamer goo. These are all the things that are supposed to enhance your performance in gaming. But do they? We put our money where their mouth is by testing out a true Tryhard PC.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
2:30 Peripherals
6:41 Speed and Luxury
7:19 A Few Extra Tweaks
7:47 You Call THIS a Computer?
9:12 The REAL Test
10:45 These are All Legal
11:56 Aim Lab
12:45 The Verdict
14:07 Outro

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@DustyTheDog Жыл бұрын

I remember when these top of the line builds were called "Compensator". Good times.

@Aremisalive Жыл бұрын

I'm thinking back to when Luke put 4 Titan X cards together in the compensator build.

@U1TR4F0RCE Жыл бұрын

Weren’t the compensator builds a bit more showcase type of deals?

@poopdeckpete Жыл бұрын

@@Aremisalive those were the best. the price/performance was awful at the end of those builds but they were the most fun to watch.

@rajanbhateja6844 Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, those were amazing builds

@MrTheSmoon Жыл бұрын

@@U1TR4F0RCE the good deals on litraly litraly the most expensive products on the market 🤡

@robertslater8293 Жыл бұрын

Love how it's basically, let's take everything expensive sent from short circuit and put it all on one place

@brokenocci Жыл бұрын

So where is the problem they made a point in the video so that's the only thing that matters

@ZachStein Жыл бұрын

I mean, if you don't make multiple videos with the expensive crap, it'll never pay for itself.

@arnox4554 Жыл бұрын

So, basically, everything on Short Circuit.

@Mythicalgoon Жыл бұрын

@@brokenocci 1 he wasn't saying it's a bad thing. 2. Linus isn't gonna see you bro

@brokenocci Жыл бұрын

@@Mythicalgoon 1 the way he pointed it out was not a good way 2 who cares of linus 3 who asked for your opinion

@davidgreen8512 Жыл бұрын

It'd be interesting to see if you can do a blind/double-blind test to see if people actually can tell a significant difference (maybe use the same mouse on the average PC?) between the two machines, or if it's some sort of placebo effect.

@JaimeRosario884 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the mouse does make a big difference, the weight and the shape. Definitely should keep that the same in both machines.

@HatsuneSquidward Жыл бұрын

Please get the most skilled gamers in the company too, and on the games they play. I can only tell easily when I play the one game I'm really good at.

@crisnmaryfam7344 Жыл бұрын

Weight is a huge difference. look at any other "professional sport" where equipment comes into play, light bows compound bows and arrows of carbon for archery, Carbon lightweight car parts for racing, For accuracy shooting in rifle marksmanship, lighter parts are a massive plus. The same thing can be attributed to mouse movements and muscle memory in your arm and shoulder. It may be micro amounts, but consider this, 100 tiny movements with 150gram mouse vs 100 tiny movements or flicks/corrections whatever you want to call them with a 50 gram mouse... Think about the total amount of force and "work" needed to move each. clearly the lighter mouse has an advantage. You must also consider the force needed to initially move the mouse, to break that friction and get it to move, the mouse feet is a big part, but also the weight. Now, the weight/Force/work needed to Stop that same mouse regardless of weight, when you have it in a near full force swing across the mousepad, Again the lightest mouse has the clear advantage. Might it be nano seconds, and micro amounts of force, sure. It all adds up over a 12 hour gaming session. and yes, if someone put a G Pro X with a weight put in it and one that was my normal mouse with a blindfold and all that Id instantly be able to tell you what one is heavier. Down to within a couple grams id wager before id have trouble deciding.

@RJ-wx3fh Жыл бұрын

Next they've got a microcenter sponsorship, set up a basic home/work pc (5ish year vintage CPU, onboard graphics or a basic GPU and moderate ram) Vs flashy rgb gamer rig with modern kit and have some people compare a few games, browser tabs, streaming etc. but hide the cables and see if average customers can tell a big performance difference , maybe say it's the expensive pc when it's really the cheap and vice versa to see what kinda comments they make. Could also compare screens using a cardboard box to hide the bezel and main body with a cutout for the screen.

@buttters_ Жыл бұрын

@tangledearphones5512 /s

@CNote929 Жыл бұрын

I used to game on an 800x600 CRT monitor with a rubber ball mouse and semi-broken plastic keyboard harvested from my mom's office and I still managed to make it on the leaderboard of the CS1.6 servers I was playing on. Now that I'm older and have some income to buy higher end parts I'm terrible at games since I have no time to play them!

@Kholaslittlespot1 Жыл бұрын

Exactly. People say older gamers are not as proficient but I've basically still got all the time in the world to game at 40+yrs (long time away from the workplace) and still regularly trounce these kids! My biggest issue is dealing with all the teenage bullshit on Comms xD

@Kholaslittlespot1 Жыл бұрын

@@ts757arse I shudder to think what collectors will pay for some of the CRTs that many of us have binned, or sent off on a pallet.

@johnnypopstar Жыл бұрын

@@Kholaslittlespot1 I think such people would do well to remember the nightmare that higher end CRTs were to get to behave properly. Never had a "convergence" problem on an LCD!

@danielgomez7236 Жыл бұрын

Guess what? that old CRT monitor has really fast response times

@KurtKloetentreter Жыл бұрын

This is me. I used to slay people on my dad's old CRT in CS. Now I have a pretty nice gaming setup, but no time to play & therefore suck at games. Let's hope my son will someday enjoy video games as much as I do, so I have an excuse to play games again.

@st_ar457 Жыл бұрын

I think there’s a limit to how much FPS matters in games. You can give Linus the best PC on the planet, but skill will matter.

@ellyh2247 Жыл бұрын

Ooooooooo shit

@hman6159 Жыл бұрын

@@ellyh2247 true

@mrpandamania Жыл бұрын

Noooooo shit

@Lastingbeats Жыл бұрын

water is wet, this comment sounds written by an AI lol

@aquanos Жыл бұрын

Damn, didn't know that being shit at a game would mean I'm shit at that game.

@AlexisLeskinen Жыл бұрын

I would love a series like Donut's Hi-Low where a setup would be progressively upgraded in order to see what parts are more important.

@XxGorillaGodxX Жыл бұрын

That's actually a very interesting idea, hope they see this.

@Hybris51129 Жыл бұрын

"We blew up 7 processors in Hi rig but we finally found a processor that will overclock to 7 Ghz and be stable!"

@VAISHALIDORANALA Жыл бұрын

@@Hybris51129 😂😂😂 They need to find an ebay motors equivalent for themselves to pay for those chips..

@VAISHALIDORANALA Жыл бұрын

@@Hybris51129 Man, this comment gets funnier everytime I read it.. Poor Donut guys.. 😂😂😅😅

@Briggleton Жыл бұрын

@@minegaming01YT nope.

@theblackrose1510 Жыл бұрын

Fun fact: that 26ms delay between button press and screen response in the "average" PC is right around the conductance delay between your motor cortex and the FDI which is the abductor muscle of the index finger that pressed the button.

@Mangomaniac Жыл бұрын

meaning...

@grex2595 Жыл бұрын

@@Mangomaniac Meaning it takes about as long for you to start clicking after you've sent the command to click from your brain to your finger as it takes the system to display the results of that click after the button itself is clicked.

@Mangomaniac Жыл бұрын

@wolf2595 oh wow, that's really interesting. does that mean there's not rlly any point going faster? Since currently at the 26ms delay it seems, to the human brain, that's its basically instant.

@heatnup6899 Жыл бұрын

@@grex2595 I still don’t understand how that makes a difference and latency improvements become “pointless.” The total latency then would be 52ms because you have to add the system latency on top of your human reaction time. It’s logical fallacy to think that because human reaction time is slower than the tech itself that improving the tech is pointless.

@grex2595 Жыл бұрын

@@heatnup6899 I didn't really make any of the claims you seem to be arguing with me about. I was just explaining the literal meaning of what was said. You do bring up a good point, however. You can, theoretically, reach a point where the total system latency is less than the average variance in the latency of your own body and mind. At that point, you literally could not improve now matter how much you reduce latency.

@unorthodoxbox Жыл бұрын

I would've liked to have seen someone in the esports scene try this out compared to their set up. Would it have benefited them?

@Kalenz1234 Жыл бұрын

Yap. Get either an FPS or RTS pro where exact movement and milisecond can make a difference.

@andrewmakenzi Жыл бұрын

doubt it. maybe a confidence factor, might be more psychological. 10ms difference times is not something you are going to be able to notice lets not lie

@crisnmaryfam7344 Жыл бұрын

@@andrewmakenzi Need to go watch the previous video they mention here. Used Shroud and other Pro level gamers as well as some casual gamers and yes, 10ms is noticeable IF you already have minimal latency on everything... Often youll see a streamer complain of lag, and look to his ping to see its only 20 higher then normal.. with that normal being 20-30ping.. but no.. We cant notice it lol.

@RiceCubeTech Жыл бұрын

@@crisnmaryfam7344I can absolutely feel the difference between 20 and 40 ping on apex. Maybe that’s just cuz apex servers are poop and 40 ( a totally normal ping) feels worse than 40 on other games. Combined I would probably feel the difference here. Especially the jump to 390 from my 144. And the wooting is a huge difference in certain games like apex where some movement tech can only be actuated on a 3fps window and at 144hz+ that’s difficult to do. People have said the wooting, since it’s like a hair trigger, makes that frametime easier to hit.

@zqzj Жыл бұрын

@@andrewmakenzi 10 ms will make a slight difference. Many pro esports players have a latency from eye to finger under 200ms.

@kihayu Жыл бұрын

It would be interesting to see how a competitive e-sports gamer would behave between these systems

@ACE112ACE112 Жыл бұрын

Would like to see it with a mouse and mousepad the gamer is comfortable using.

@HopeLiveDie Жыл бұрын

They have a video with shroud comparing if FPS matters. Recommend the watch.

@fitybux4664 Жыл бұрын

If it was a blind test? No difference. If you told them the milliseconds? They'd be like: "EWWWWW" to the slower system and not even use it. 😆

@shrektheogrelord6435 Жыл бұрын

E sports is the only gamer who needs this

@Luckyluckyluc Жыл бұрын

@@fitybux4664 Not true since they already did such a test with 144 vs 240 hz and low vs high fps - the performance spoke for itself lol

@sigma-erebus Жыл бұрын

I think the newer Wooting keyboard model used here actually uses the new Hall Effect sensors instead of the old flaretech optical sensors. (HE edition). Especially because the older flaretech models didn't support 0.1 mm actuation distance (iirc smallest was 0.4 mm on the older models)

@ltcuddles685 Жыл бұрын

Wooting one here, first model, the lowest actuation possible is 1.5mm.

@Grimm211 Жыл бұрын

Yes, the 60HE (the only option out there) already states this in its name HE = hall effect. Additional Source: I own a wooting two with the flaretech switches and a 60HE

@maolcogi Жыл бұрын

@@Grimm211 What do you mean only option out there? The Wooting 2 HE has hall effect switches as well. Evidence: I have the 2 HE and 60HE.

@Byynx Жыл бұрын

Yeah that's really important to know on this video it makes sense to add that info.

@Turtle1631991 Жыл бұрын

Steelseries Apex Pro uses hall effect and it has been on the market for quite a while now

@coreyh3994 Жыл бұрын

The problem with doing aim lab back and forth like that (as someone who used to work for them) is you WILL do better every consecutive round. That's what it's designed to do. So you'd probably have to keep going back and forth until you kept getting better on one system, and stopped getting better on the other. Or do 10min of warmup first on the avg system til you level out (like a stress test), and then go to the better system and see how much better you do. But even then it would still take some time for your body to adapt to the new abilities. But you can see if you plateau higher.

@Accuaro Жыл бұрын

5:40 Anthony, the best thing about this keyboard is actually the "rapid trigger & tachyon mode", where upon lifting up on the switch the input can then be instantly triggered no matter where the switch has been actuated.

@Tony-ui2sl Жыл бұрын

Only good thing about this board is rapid trigger that's all.

@Its-Just-Zip Жыл бұрын

5:57 Note on the wooting keyboard: it's not OPTICAL, it's a hall effect sensor. It's a subtle difference, but it's an important one. An optical keyboard can't as easily distinguished distance as a hall effect sensor can. Also, the keyboard is maybe the only thing I can recommend out of this set at about 6 minutes in and only for the practical purpose of the fact that in theory those key switches will never wear out as long as you replace the springs when they start to degrade, you can continue using that keyboard clear into the next millennium. Also, I really like the way they handled control software so there's no actual download to worry about. It's a web app and everything is stored on the keyboard

@BHBalast Жыл бұрын

Woah, never thought about it, web interface is fantastic idea for a non budget gear!

@Its-Just-Zip Жыл бұрын

@@BHBalast yeah, it's actually pretty cool if you choose to download the app and install it. It's just an electron app. So any chromium-based browser will allow you to modify your keyboard settings just like it was installed on the device. And of course all of the settings are saved on the keyboard, which is again part of the reason why it's on my recommendation list because there's no control software that you actually have to install and you don't have to keep anything running

@StaySic4Ever Жыл бұрын

It just depends on implementation, optical switch can work the same.

@lbgstzockt8493 Жыл бұрын

It's not even a subtle difference, the working principle is completely different.

@kishascape Жыл бұрын

Yeah Razer can take a page from them. Their software is god awful and the supposed in-mouse memory rarely works, Logitech is almost as bad as well. The memory is good but getting the software to let you store it is a nightmare.

@TheXshot Жыл бұрын

The heart popping out on MKBHD caught me off guard 😅

@hman6159 Жыл бұрын

Lol

@codethecreator Жыл бұрын

The most fun I ever had was running Black Squad on an old 4th Gen i5 and a 1050. Used the cheapest logitech wireless K&M and it was so much fun. The more I get into hardware now, the less fulfilled I feel. Mechanical keyboards, high DPI mice, high refresh rate. It all just seems like stuff to make me seem like I'm having more fun than I am. For the record, I started gaming on a Pentium III playing Counter Strike with a ball mouse. I'm on about more recently when I got back into gaming as an adult.

@crisnmaryfam7344 Жыл бұрын

Part of this is the overhyped-ness of the marketing behind it all. You get your hopes up its going to be "Life Changing" and that much different, but in reality it is like buying top end sports equipment for an amateur, will it help? Maybe, but its designed for someone Already at the top level. Buying the best marksmen rifle and scope, and every other part for it, wont suddenly make you a world record sharpshooter...will it help your accuracy though? Absolutely. If you have the skill to use the tools in the first place.

@danielgomez7236 Жыл бұрын

We are adult now, now we don't like games as much as when we were teenagers

@SrNerd Жыл бұрын

It would be interesting to see pro players trying it like you did in the "Refresh rate does matter? (Hertz VS FPS) test"

@user-1wy8wu01 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, get Shroud in there

@Bossfightmedia Жыл бұрын

they did tho? 🤔dunno if that video was before or after for sure, but pretty sure it was before.

@drnitay470 Жыл бұрын

Would love to see this test done with professional gamers

@cdiff07 Жыл бұрын

It would show that this video was a total click bait video. All of the so-called gimmicks are not gimmicks if the people playing the game are good at what they do it will enhance their experience of course!

@Luckyluckyluc Жыл бұрын

@@cdiff07 it's not since they already did such a test with 144 vs 240 hz and low vs high fps - the performance spoke for itself lol

@cdiff07 Жыл бұрын

@@Luckyluckyluc Once again, your talking about average gamers. If you used people who were really good at the game the one with out the better system would be handicapped! Stop believing what Linus tells you,like it is the bible!

@Luckyluckyluc Жыл бұрын

@@cdiff07 bruh you just said it. If you're good at games you will definitely profit from the real advantages... Not everyone is a noob - especially the people trying to learn from videos like this one... So a much bigger fraction of viewers comapred to other LTT videos will actually benefit from what the so called "really good people" benefit from... I don't get why you belive Linus should only focus on people who have no more experience than playing on a 60hz console. I for example would consider myself a more advanced user I appreciate that videos like this one don't just say: "Oh, it probably doesn't make a difference for you since you're probably a noob couch gamer anyways bla bla bla you shouldn't buy anything featured in this video 'cause you are probably bad at videogames anyways" like WTF - how about you consider that this content is not ONLY for the 'average' person but also enthusiasts..?!

@AL-lh2ht Жыл бұрын

They made that video already. Answer: after 240fps it does not matter.

@JE-zl6uy Жыл бұрын

Warning on the 8khz mouse: they will not actually work at 8khz... They cause most games to drop frames unless you drop them down to 1khz, negating the feature. I have reached out to Razer and they pointed me to a FAQ in the mouse that states, specifically "Some games may need to be set to 1khz" - what they mean to say is "Most AAA games don't support 8khz polling properly"

@re4796 Жыл бұрын

This isn't a thing anymore lol

@or1on89 Жыл бұрын

@@re4796 yeah, 8KHz mice are not a thing anymore 😂

@king3213 Жыл бұрын

@@or1on89 wrong. Its all 4k hz atleast now

@technikchaot Жыл бұрын

@@re4796 the last time I tried it I couldn't play pubg with 8 kHz. It is still the same doesn't work properly. War Thunder doesn't work either, it has other ways of failing but it will not work like you would like to.

@GPTLG Жыл бұрын

I have the razer viper 8kHz, can confirm that you are right, most games are a stuttery mess when it's set to 8k, like pubg and League. But the one game I DO care about the latency, which is valorant, has a setting called "Raw Input Buffer (Experimental)" with which the game runs fine. It is the only game in which 8k works, by toggling this setting.

@PeacelordApropos Жыл бұрын

Love the all in approach. It's like money is nothing at all

@itsnophun Жыл бұрын

Sometimes more money is just way worse. Look at that mouse. You can't play with that :D

@tragikk03 Жыл бұрын

Keyboard advice: if you're used to a normal mechanical key's press it's going to be weird using switches that activate with so much less movement - I found the way I used to rest my hand on the keys when not typing/moving in-game would cause my k100 to register a keypress (I had made the switch from cherry reds to the k100's opx switches). It took some getting used to, but now I prefer the quick input. For anyone who wants 8k polling rate and optical-mechanical switches, but also like full-sized keyboards; the Corsair K100 has both of those feature (it uses the corsair opx optical/mechanical switches and, according to corsair specs, is capable of "Up to 8,000Hz with AXON" - there may be cheaper options, idk; I got mine from microcenter a few years ago before hipsters made 65%'s popular - I think it was right around when corsair released their 65% kb (or maybe it was Razer w/ their 60%?). Other than that, there wasn't a 60-75% on the market for a comparable price)

@MaximumCarter Жыл бұрын

I could listen to him talk about computers all day. He's really good at narrating content.

@hjr2000 Жыл бұрын

Seconded.

@NeerajKumarDelhiWalla Жыл бұрын

who

@ChrisLDGK Жыл бұрын

@@NeerajKumarDelhiWallaour lord and savior

@bipbop3121 Жыл бұрын

Really great at writing the content, too

@chrisperrywv Жыл бұрын

Hmm

@BagelMaster4107 Жыл бұрын

Don't forget we need Riley's "Gamer Paste" (Dorito and Mountain Dew Mush) also, that's what REALLY makes a gamer a gamer!

@TheTallOne890 Жыл бұрын

@@sheelagaming2331 you realize how obvious this is right?

@ArturoTabera Жыл бұрын

@@TheTallOne890 Please don't answer the spam bot! Thank You!

@TheTallOne890 Жыл бұрын

@@ArturoTabera just having some fun lol

@fitybux4664 Жыл бұрын

Are you supposed to put it on your hands, or just lather it all over your body? 😆

@RavenWingY2K Жыл бұрын

Killed me with that Ned Flanders skiing reference! 😂🤣 Always love how thorough Anthony is when he's hosting a video 💯

@joester4life Жыл бұрын

nothing at all... nothing at all!

@itsdomtoo 11 ай бұрын

the fact this takes not one but TWO extreme tech upgrades from AMD/Intel is crazy

@Aakkosti Жыл бұрын

6:52 I’ve heard of inverted controls, but inverting the sound by wearing your headphones backwards is new to me.

@Yasha_U Жыл бұрын

oh my god I DIDNT REALIZE THGAT LMAO

@Your_Paramour Жыл бұрын

The csgo pro Amanek (played for G2 for years) plays with inverted sound.

@ic3max Жыл бұрын

There's two CoD pros playing inverted sound as well

@AarPlays Жыл бұрын

@@ic3max buddy of mine hit rank 1 on bo3 and they play with inverted sound too. However, this is because they bought a headset with a mic on the side they didn't like and wore it backwards for years and ended up training their hearing to be inverted lol

@ErrorMessageNotFound Жыл бұрын

It might be interesting to do a blind test to see what people think about each one.

@jamaharon Жыл бұрын

right. usually in science if it's not a blind test it's not a scientific test.

@crisnmaryfam7344 Жыл бұрын

@@jamaharon "Blind", or Usually with a "Control Group" without variables

@meeserbaker Жыл бұрын

I think you all, and the other people whove suggested this, are completely missing a huge problem with this idea... You kinda have to see to play the game -.- /jk but not rly lol

@supernenechi Жыл бұрын

Actually, on the Wooting, your actuation point can be whenever you begin pressing the key down. So when you've pressed the key fully down, let it go and when it's halfway done unpressing press it down again it will register a second time. This feature is rapid trigger and it's the feature that caused the osu! community to lose their minds for a while.

@robotman96 Жыл бұрын

They talked about this in 9:41 and osu/anime is cringe

@noxjpg9110 5 ай бұрын

Que hacia acá nenechi

@orppranator5230 Ай бұрын

Sounds like a recipe for shaky fingers activating the keys multiple times in one key press.

@0rogontorogon Жыл бұрын

6:56 To pinpoint the footsteps of your enemies with ease, it's generally recommended to not wear your HD800S backwards.

@Banzaii96 Жыл бұрын

5:49 Correction. It's not an optical switch, it's a Hall Effect switch EDIT: 9:29 Same, not optical. Actuation point (and release) is based on the distance from the magnet in the switch to the sensor in the PCB

@or1on89 Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Lekkar and OmniPoint are the only Hall Effect switches on the market on consumer ready products!

@BenjaminCronce Жыл бұрын

wooting was known for their optical switches before they recently went all hall effect

@AresWasTaken Жыл бұрын

Yes, as recent as 3 years ago

@Ryuseigan Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was wondering how an optical switch sensed force.

@richardhunter9779 Жыл бұрын

@@Ryuseigan It had a special stem which would occlude a different percentage of the light depending on position. It did have adjustable actuation, but not full range like the hall effect switches.

@justinmilam545 Жыл бұрын

I think this would have been a great opportunity to have an esports gamer in studio to conduct the test along with the average gamer. I suspect that the average professional gamer would have some sort of benefit from the decreased latency and as for your average gamer it would make no difference.

@Keepskatin Жыл бұрын

An average gamer vs an gamer with a standard gaming PC would be a huge difference.

@inpusket Жыл бұрын

@@Keepskatin actually,the test should be pro gamer with avg pc vs avg gamer with pro pc.

@justinmilam545 Жыл бұрын

@@inpusket that's not a reputable test. The professional has potentially years of stats they can work off of to then gauge if there are any changes. Either way as much as I love their videos any way would have been a better test than the way they did it. But also at the same time unless you are making money off of it or just literally have 13K laying around to blow on a PC setup it's just content.

@aggonzalezdc Жыл бұрын

They really needed to do this. Sure it doesn't make a difference to Linus, it won't make a difference for me, but it might for someone else.

@BBSteamReview Жыл бұрын

I agree

@finmac2959 Жыл бұрын

Love seeing the wooting keyboard here, great company starting as a Kickstarter. Still sporting the Wooting one 5 years later!!

@jaredstrang753 Жыл бұрын

Just got my wooting 60 HE the other day, and its INCREDIBLE! Can't recommend them enough for games like osu / trackmania.

@Slada1 Жыл бұрын

and they are still updating the firmware and backporting the new features!

@Alex-Lys Жыл бұрын

Laughed to tears at "the enemy" and 'gaming powder' moments xD Saved to FAVS. Been a long time since I've seen a 'tech' video that amusing and entertaining) Thank you so very much))

@PCarDriver87 Жыл бұрын

The powder cracked me up

@sorual4604 Жыл бұрын

It seems like literally every video Anthony is in is gold.

@ThatFreikugel Жыл бұрын

Yeah love him

@sandboy5880 Жыл бұрын

He's good but he should lose like 70 kg at minimum.

@germanmade1219 Жыл бұрын

@@sandboy5880 Agreed, he looks like a random gen character where all of the slider options are maxed out to the left or the right.

@itsmilan4069 Жыл бұрын

11:19 illegal powder meme material

@767corp Жыл бұрын

I bought this Wooting 60HE last year and it's best thing ever, keyboard is just freaking amazing , totally worth the investment !

@manfredhauser1552 Жыл бұрын

Interesting video and I have to say, really love your voice, so pleasing to listen to you

@Phexous Жыл бұрын

I would love to see them try out these two systems with someone like TenZ who is already incredible and see if they can get a measurable improvement.

@AdaaDK Жыл бұрын

@@JPK1337 they did, but not with every part of the platform/system optimized as much as this, + not with 390hz monitors and special mouse/keyboards. I belive it was 144hz/240hz back then, at most.

@wanderingwobb6300 Жыл бұрын

Tenz couldn't even prove himself worth a damn in the NA CS scene lol. If you want to see people who are incredible at FPS games then Valorant is not the place to be looking.

@QuanNguyen-yw3ft Жыл бұрын

I HECKIN' LOVE TENZ BatChest

@SoundBubble Жыл бұрын

As if these tests have any sort of validity. You'd have to do actual long term studies comparing both setups to have anything of value. Most people will perform better with the setup they're used to, even if it's technically "worse". Unless you actually have people track their performance over weeks, if not months, with the new setup it's not gonna tell us much. Hell, even if they performed better, what's proving that it's the setup and not them just having a really good day? These videos are meant for entertainment, the most they could ever prove is that we've definitely reached a point of diminishing returns for the average user.

@ianv.rodriguez8367 Жыл бұрын

Always interesting to see how far an enthusiast budget can go

@kriegnes Жыл бұрын

they have a sponsor and will make money with this video. not too long and it was probably worth it, financially

@Kholaslittlespot1 Жыл бұрын

I mean, I'd prefer a nice open looped workstation, but each to their own!

@TheElyes123 5 ай бұрын

i love this man, i feel he is a really good person thanks for those video keep it up guys

@isaaccarter8655 Жыл бұрын

8:15 I have that exact AOC monitor, got in on sale at $175 USD, 144hz and a killer response time

@John_1920 Жыл бұрын

11:14 that is NOT a joke warning, by the way. Attempting to swallow any sort of powdery or granuly substances completely dry like that can, if you start coughing and retching, cause permanent damage to your throat and/or airways. If you absolutely do want to try, say, the cinnamon spoon challenge from ages ago, or something similar instead, the best way to go about it is to; hold your breath from the moment you put the spoon in your mouth, start working on producing saliva to wetten whatever you are attempting to swallow - this is where the difficulty comes into play, as things like cinnamon or powdery stuff will work very well against saliva production, and many start caughing because they underestimated the time it would take to sufficiently wetten the stuff and started taking involuntary breaths. Once you feel that your saliva has sufficiently wetten it - it should feel clumpy, - you can attempt to swallow it. If you absolutely do need to breath before swallowing, attempt to do this by closing the back of your throat while breating in and out through your nose alone, do not try to breath through your mouth, as this is what will be most dangerous.

@rustycrystal4475 Жыл бұрын

I loved how you headshot Mark Ass Brown Lee back there at 2:50 🖤

@alot_of_ducks Жыл бұрын

Marques brownlee

@Chad.D Жыл бұрын

the best part of linus tech tips is how linus embraces the ability to be funny and have his team troll and roast him. this is entertainment gold.

@BrianKariuki Жыл бұрын

I approve this sponsor. All my builds have always had either seasonic or evga psu

@LordandGodofYouTube Жыл бұрын

Not relevant, but I once played a Facebook game (Pirates or something by Plarium) which was pay to play. The people who dominated the game were the people who got out their credit card and purchased all the good boats and pirates. Well I worked out if you sent an attack but quickly double clicked as you sent it, then cancelled your attack immediately, suddenly you had twice the amount of boats and pirates you had before launching the attack. It only took about 5 minutes before you had the strongest force by far and were destroying everything the people with massive credit cards had. I still have the strongest attack rating in that game until this day, I also did it in another game by Plarium, I think it was called Sparta. I got banned from those games pretty quickly, but not before I ruined the days for a few of the pay to play heros, my inbox was flooded pretty quickly by people asking how I did it. Plarium fixed the bug within 24 hours, but the damage I did was vast and extensive. Fun times .

@alext3811 Жыл бұрын

Aren't Plarium the makers of Raid: Shady Legends? The extreme pay-to-win nature would match?

@KofolaDealer Жыл бұрын

@@alext3811 Yes they are how do you remember that

@alext3811 Жыл бұрын

@@KofolaDealer I remember that they are a literal casino company, and that they made Raid, that's it. EDIT: Plarium's owners are a casio company, almost remembered it correctly...

@DaLoveDonkey69420 Жыл бұрын

loved the dry scoop part lmao Linus took it like a champ.

@karanveersinghdulku Жыл бұрын

Happy to see evga motherboards , pls do more evga products

@lukeskysprinter6654 Жыл бұрын

The screen in the "average" setup is the exact one i use, btw great video

@mjdevlog Жыл бұрын

Finally, Anthony on the main channel again. We need more of him.

@blunderingfool Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately we won't have him for long unless he looses some bloody weight already. Man's on a collision course for disaster.

@PlayinWithMahWii Жыл бұрын

@@blunderingfool He may have a pre-existing condition that makes it harder for him to exercise and lose weight/makes it easier for him to gain weight. I'm sure he's aware of his own issues. But otherwise, I do agree with your sentiment. It's important for him to lose some weight and get healthier!

@SuperFlawless2010 Жыл бұрын

do we tho?

@SuperFlawless2010 Жыл бұрын

@@blunderingfool that dude is one cheeseburger away from a heart attack tbh.

@royalmike4757 Жыл бұрын

Why doesn't he open his eyes?

@kevinbarnard3502 Жыл бұрын

And remember, to keep this system clean, you can't use regular compressed air found usually on an end cap display in best buy, make sure you go into the computer section and get a can of "gaming" compressed air. It's gotta be better. It's more expensive and has the word "gaming" right there on the can.

@Kholaslittlespot1 Жыл бұрын

Anthonyyyyyyyyy! What's up! I've been wondering about analogue keyboards for years. Might have to look into them.

@matthewwalewangko1995 Жыл бұрын

watching body builders dry scoop pre workout all the time made me forget that it's a terrible idea ^_^" the guy who offered Linus the dry scoop is a hero XD

@PoppaCYS Жыл бұрын

I think the testing could be better... two suggestions: 1) test with professional gamers who have the reflexes to take advantage of the gear and 2) give the test subjects a chance to acclimate to (practice on) the "try hard system."

@richardgarrett2792 Жыл бұрын

And the pros have had hours and hours and hours of practice and the muscle memory that goes with it, so it would reveal nothing. The average person would get better with those same hours of practice. Results would not be any different.

@tripleheadedmonkey6613 Жыл бұрын

@@TotallySlapdash They do a whole range of different sizes, though a lot of times they're sold out on the more popular sizes. I've been using a Wooting One as my Keyboard since like 2018 ish and though I wish I had the more up-to-date hardware version, I don't think I'll ever actually need to replace this keyboard. They're not cheap though xD probably the most expensive keyboard worth buying. Saying that they still only cost about £125-140, So as a long term investment that you would never need to replace, it is pretty damn decent.

@PoppaCYS Жыл бұрын

@@richardgarrett2792 The results may or may not be different - that's the entire point of doing testing - to prove or reject a hypothesis. Also, pros may have a higher potential to improve and take advantage of the equipment when compared with normals.

@bipbop3121 Жыл бұрын

Like how they tested monitor refresh rate, back in the day. They had a mix of LTT staff and pro gamer. For this point though a pros besides the point. Of course, scientifically speaking they aren't going to get a represetatative sample of even 1000 gamers, so technically the one of is more anecdotal than statistically significant. They rarely do more than 5 LMG, but something like this, I'd like a varied set of 10 people - gossip with the ergo dialed in.

@GanDtech Жыл бұрын

The mistake they made was using that tiny mouse when they actually could have got better performance from something wireless like a Viper V2 Pro which would feel even better

@cheeseisgreat24 Жыл бұрын

I feel like we’re finally at a point where even cheap computers are so good, your performance is much more limited by your own personal reaction time, unless you are a super high performing MLG person.

@SoreTv Жыл бұрын

Oh lord, the MLG days 😂

@jayyusi Жыл бұрын

'cheap'

@DoubleMonoLR Жыл бұрын

Video cards are more expensive than they've ever been. Why people care so much about winning and trivial stuff is beyond me though, they're...games, they're meant to be fun. I couldn't imagine ever remotely comparing winning a video game to anything in the real world, including sports.

@RexZShadow Жыл бұрын

@@DoubleMonoLR so what make winning in sports any different? It's also a game. It's such a weird mentality that sports which are also games some how get a pass. Yes we pay someone millions to bounce a ball around is somehow accepted but video games? Oh no that for fun only, anyone who thinks of that as competitive is dumb. Like seriously?

@adarsh9715 Жыл бұрын

@@RexZShadow leave my grandpa alone! he doesnt like modern things and thinks everything is dumb!! Its not his fault!!! xD

@thedanyesful Жыл бұрын

The 'dry scooping' part was super hilarious. Reminds me of the 'cinnamon challenge'.

@triplelll7861 Жыл бұрын

I like how much i learnd from these legends they help me build my own pottato pc but its my treasure now much love legends🤝

@johnmillerjr3646 Жыл бұрын

At 11:07: Did Linus just ingest a scoop of cocai---uh, 'performance enhancing' powder?

@sephondranzer Жыл бұрын

I’m not sure if you guys wore the headphone backwards on purpose at 6:55, but I know I made that mistake with those headphones when I got them the first month. Man they sound so much better when you wear them right 😂

@pelagia1538 Жыл бұрын

Lol yeah, turns out having L and R coming out of the corresponding side is pretty important for imaging.

@grandmasteraj855 Жыл бұрын

Bump. Because it’s possible they were trolling. But it’s also possible they didn’t realize. 😂

@ZenTunE- Жыл бұрын

I'm triggered that Linus didn't even use the $1000+ audio setup 🤣

@urbnized Жыл бұрын

That Marques scope bit... Chefs kiss.

@justinwilson9048 Жыл бұрын

Linus dry scooping that shit was the best laugh I have had in days.

@guyfawkes8873 Жыл бұрын

So happy about the airflow pattern optimisation, I’ve been considering similar fan setups for so long, and been annoyed that no reviewers ever seem to consider unorthodox airflow paths like so.

@GeekGarageDK Жыл бұрын

As an owner of the Wooting Two HE that also uses the Lekker Switch like yours do, i want to correct the statement that it is optical switches, they are not, the are hall effect switches (magnet in the steam of the switch and the sensor build into the PCB)

@ford351w83 Жыл бұрын

Omg that dry scoop has got me rolling I can’t breathe 😂😂😂

@blade-vk Жыл бұрын

Anthony was like a actor from movie "Hackers"! "Theory crafting" elements was the best part of this video. I'd like to see him in Hackers II !

@CruiseControl2012 Жыл бұрын

It's always a great day when I get to see Anthony doing his thing.

@R3AL-AIM Жыл бұрын

I love the G502... It is heavy 😭 On a second note, if someone could make an outer shell or chassis on the MK2 for ergonomics, that would be a grand idea for gamers.

@eoinkenny3188 Жыл бұрын

I had an adjustable weight mouse (RAT 9) and ended up loading all the weights into it because I despised the twitchy handling in anything except an fps shooter which I don't really play online anyway

@ketos8315 Жыл бұрын

PMM (piranha mouse mods) do sell lighter though 3D Printed versions of most common Mouses

@Eruasa Жыл бұрын

@@eoinkenny3188 Uhh, I remember the R.A.T. mice. Had a 5 myself. Was an awesome mouse until I smashed my hand on it. Thanks CSGO for that. Are they still produced? Maybe I get myself one again.

@ltcuddles685 Жыл бұрын

@@Eruasa They went bankrupt but have since been bought out by another company, so they are available again.

@Eruasa Жыл бұрын

@@ltcuddles685 Sounds good, thanks mate.

@bl1ndguy0 Жыл бұрын

The Wooting 60HE does NOT have an optical switch like some razor keyboards, the Wooting 60HE has magnetic Lekker switches (from Gateron). This is why actuation can be adjusted via software (b/c they are magnets); this is impossible for optical switches. Hopefully this error can be corrected in the video, Thanks! :) -Nima

@tee2567 Жыл бұрын

Great video. You know its good when you spend 14 minutes watching, and entertained to "learn" something everyone with half a brain already knows (the slowest part of any modern PC setup is the person sitting in front of it).

@Zaiikai Жыл бұрын

the suggestion for coaching with that kind of money is unironically great! dedicating time to practice and a coach shows way better dedication than just paying for better hardware and hoping that it'll change how you play!

@watercannonscollaboration2281 Жыл бұрын

This is the kind of content I subscribe for, things that are so balls to the walls that it’s never practical, but you always wanted to know what’s like. Kind of similar to cranking the config on a laptop

@Paradise_Photography_offical Жыл бұрын

Always love seeing Anthony in the videos on LLT

@shadowsandfire Жыл бұрын

I have that same router and its awesome! I love it

@Asdeer101 Жыл бұрын

That keyboard is really cool. Analog input is definitely very nice. If it had media keys, I would gladly change it as my daily driver.

@Asdeer101 Жыл бұрын

I just realized because it's programmable and analog, I can make analog media control. I think I finally found the first keyboard I'm willing to spend money on.

@mechanicalmonk2020 Жыл бұрын

@@Asdeer101 did you steal all your previous keyboards?

@Ziutu01 Жыл бұрын

@@Asdeer101 just need numpad :( Without that i am not buying. I use "calc" too often to abandon it!

@MischieviousJirachi Жыл бұрын

@@mechanicalmonk2020 i was thinking the same thing 💀

@sigma-erebus Жыл бұрын

You can bind some keys as media keys. Perhaps through fn layer if preferred. (I personally rebound the profile switch keys to media keys, and have the profile switching on the same keys but then with fn instead of without)

@Azraenore Жыл бұрын

10:13 He did it, he described CS GO gameplay in a nutshell.

@alperensusan9701 Жыл бұрын

02:00 dude! You have an extreme strong sound

@bootysmaka22 Жыл бұрын

About 20 years ago I had an idea to make a keyboard with analog WASD keys (or all keys), forgot about it until recently when I saw that they have come out! At least there are people somewhere in the world with ambition to actually get things produced lol.

@TheShmrsh Жыл бұрын

You have to have actual experience how to produce at least usual keyboards , so you won't did it anyway

@dcshoes841 Жыл бұрын

I got a WootingOne when it was a kickstarter project. Also bought a WootingTwo that I have kept new, in box. It's a very interesting keyboard and it will probably be strange for me if I were to go back to a normal mechanical keyboard.

@ChillieGaming Жыл бұрын

Now thats a video that i have been waiting for since 3 years man. Less go and oh by the way can u continue the series like does high fps really make u better gamer when 540hz monitor comes out.

@nv8488 Жыл бұрын

There are 540hz monitors hz monitors already(at least one)

@brianbrian_brian_brian Жыл бұрын

I lost it when Linus coughed up the dry scoop xD

@FoolOfATuque Жыл бұрын

I thought the NVME cover had “dork” written on it. lol! Definitely seems more fitting than dark. Lol!

@fuzzycuffs Жыл бұрын

Holy crap this PC specs are going to be the biggest signature on the message board.

@akf2000 Жыл бұрын

😃😃😃😃 such a great comment

@BlueOriginHR Жыл бұрын

Awesome vid Anthony! That keyboard blew my mind, i mean the whole build blew my mind but that keyboard is something else! Glad to see Anthony doing his thing! Happy new years to the whole Linus Tech crew!!!

@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Жыл бұрын

Anthony just hosted it, Adam was the writer. Though it is awesome in itself to see Anthony in front of the camera just reading off a script like Linus does. He's a great host

@Ricky25557 Жыл бұрын

The Wooting HE is not an “Optical Keyboard” it uses “Hall Effect”, which is what HE stands for. It’s a magnet and a sensor that detects the potential difference across an electrical conductor when the magnet is applied in a perpendicular direction to the flow of the switch current.

@puredruid Жыл бұрын

14:01 - This is a very true point. It's what causes those weird deaths where you still take damage AFTER breaking line of sight. Beat by someone with better reaction times than you AND they have a monster PC setup. So in some sense frames do win games, but you still need to be good at the game to begin with.

@Hadavin Жыл бұрын

network desync is what causes the line-of-sight break then death.

@marsovac Жыл бұрын

No taking damage after breaking line of sight is network lag and game state synchronization. But for the rest.. Yes and is also something that will happen a few times in the life of a competitive player ("same time shots": a few ms timespan shots). So I guess the money is still better spent on anything else. Better internet provider or even performance enhancing drugs to lower the human reaction time, which make the 95% of the latency.

@Moz29 Жыл бұрын

No that’s netcode. Bad ping players sometimes get lag compensation and will be immune to damage. Or their movements sent in larger packets on a delay.

@bengoacher4455 Жыл бұрын

Well considering human reaction times are orders of magnitude longer than the difference between setups. And the network lag is order of magnitude longer as well. Its safe to say that there is 0 impact on gaming. If you only care about the competitive edge, your setup is far less important than things like diet, focus, exercise etc. You are better off investing time and money into a good diet, meditation and mental wellbeing, and a personal trainer. All of those things will improve your reaction times and your gaming. However if you want to run drop dead gorgeous games and not sacrifice frames, then you might want to invest in a beefy setup. But you will be beaten by 13 year olds playing on a school desktop

@Supreme_Lobster Жыл бұрын

@@marsovac overdose on caffeine

@Pegaroo_ Жыл бұрын

13:29 Would be interesting these bar graphs split up to show how much of the total was taken up by which component. I know some of them would be hard/ almost impossible to quantify accurately but some would not. At the very least it would be possible to show mouse and keyboard input to PC latency and GPU to display latency

@xenoliferttv9803 Жыл бұрын

I gotta agree with the rest here... this beast deserves some proper testing!

@hellhound2260 11 ай бұрын

"We bought the best gaming router" "We disabled Wi-fi"

@magfal Жыл бұрын

You forgot to go for Optane for latency reduction over nand. I doubt there are many games that do not preload enough to ram for it to be practically irrelevant but it would be in the spirit of the video.

@felicityc Жыл бұрын

I personally used to put my competitive game of choice on a ramdisk sometimes. spoiler: it really didnt make a difference tbh

@gucky4717 Жыл бұрын

Optane is EOL

@magfal Жыл бұрын

@@gucky4717 doesn't change the facts regarding performance. If I had the money to spare I'd buy 4 of the largest p5800x. I've scooped up what I've been able to at my price range.

@BA-oy9uo Жыл бұрын

and an OLED monitor for response time. Dont know how they whiffed on that one. Hardware unboxed measures response time and OLEDs as you would expect kill any LCD

@absolutium Жыл бұрын

@@BA-oy9uo How many +240hz oled displays are there?

@VaginalWildfire Жыл бұрын

The “these are all legal” scene was TOO good

@david34441 Жыл бұрын

This episode was super funny

@vasavi13 Ай бұрын

him:BRO I SWEAR I WAS LAGGING his set-up:

@dseszu425 Жыл бұрын

It would be interesting to see if the asynchronous reprojection idea you featured recently could show differences with those setups.

@jaspreetmaan121 Жыл бұрын

10:48 bro overclocked linus

@alexferreira1963 Жыл бұрын

4:26 i have a Corsair M65 Ultra RGB and it also does 8000Hz, without the weights it’s also light, but I do prefer heavy mice, so I put all the weights on it. Edit: it cost me 80€ so it’s not that expensive at all. I previously had a G502 (first one, not the hero, the switches had that double-click problem)

@user-fr7go9vg7z Жыл бұрын

Love the G502

@zoladkow Жыл бұрын

that recalls how competitive cycling once decided that hardware must fall within certain specs to not give unfair advantage - like wheel sizes or recumbent bikes 😁

@BuzzKora Жыл бұрын

It makes me really happy to see options like sennheiser hd800s, re20, wooting and even the mouse m1k which all are my end game goal here, not that it is a surprise but its nice to see that people actually did put some research and probably are just as into this stuff as i am

@reformierende_person Жыл бұрын

they even included a sweaty ass router

@andrejkruh Жыл бұрын

he wore the 800s backwards though

@Auruchius Жыл бұрын

I do have an HD800 and man, what a headphone. Definitely a keeper if you do get one.

@vik1ng313 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was thinking they'd go for a Logitech or Razer "gaming" headset. Maybe a Sennheiser PC38x, but to actually go for the HD800 S is noice. The CPU retention bracket, even the chair (Aeron for me personally). If I ever make a modern list of ultimate PC parts, this is extremely close to it.

@Auruchius Жыл бұрын

@Transistor Jump Not necessarily "better" but it is the planar counterpart to what the HD800/800S is capable of. I think it just presents the sound differently than what the HD800S can. A good example of this is the soundstaging. HD800/S is focused on extreme width while the Arya (and other egg-shaped Hifiman headphones) focus on verticality, scale, and "grandness". Depending on what type of presentation you prefer, both are exceptional in what they do best.

@TheOmegaAlfa Жыл бұрын

Nootropics had adverse event of drowsiness so well done. ;)

@cornebistouille Жыл бұрын

YES! a more compréhensive way to relativize human related performance and hardware.. you should make the test on a larger numbers of players (like the one you did with the screens)

@SethOmegaful Жыл бұрын

Dude, tryhard systems like the one in the video only matters for people who reached pro levels of performance. The average joe doesnt need this. Its just waste of money if you think you will win more having a system like that.

@Skelath 6 ай бұрын

The answer to this question is simple, it does nothing. Speed runners using 3-4 decade old original hardware have been competing with modern gaming setups on the leader boards and time and time again their shows no significant advantage between the two, if pooling rates, mouse weight, and travel times were relevant then speed runners would be raving about how they improved their times with new hardware and that world record typists got more words per minute on the latest keyboard.

@Mr.Unacceptable Жыл бұрын

I got a 3 button foot pedal several years ago and using it to crouch open inventory and run in games and taking them off the keyboard and mouse has been amazing. Fingers have much less to do.

@chriswilbur1356 Жыл бұрын

Invested in a razer controller for my 360 back in the day because it had six extra mappable buttons, my brain can't use a normal controller anymore. The newest one, the Chroma V2 is so damn comfortable and they use tactile switches for all the buttons so they 'click' like a mouse press (sound and all)

@WTFBOOMDOOM Жыл бұрын

Piano players be like: "Wait, so you're not using pedals normally?"

@mechanicalmonk2020 Жыл бұрын

Average emacs user gets into gaming