I'm right there with you on that. He gets so much information in these short documentaries. And that's exactly why I watch them.

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Yes! I only know it from people doing risk assessment in the UK. "Legionnaire" always made me think of ancient Rome. Philadelphia in the 70s was definitely not on my radar. 😳

It definetly still happens but way more localized and rare

Same!!

Oh ewwwwww! I would feel sick just looking at that .

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Living in rural Arizona it was just too expensive and more than a little risky to use air conditioning (over cooling leads to potential shock when exposed to the extreme temps outside) so swamp coolers were the most common cooling unit but I never encountered one that didn't smell like a try hard black mold farm. By the end of the hotter seasons they pretty much always were.

Sounds about right. I’m a residential guy but I can’t tell you how many times I’ve found dead animals and shit inside ductwork

Residential & Commercial. I've found mice, rats, birds, kittens, snakes, lizards & raccoons. Thankfully, dead by the time I was sent to figure out why the systems were failing. (some pets will find a source of hot air & follow it into the supply vents or---unluckily---into the furnace) I'm a roughneck but there are 3 things that I know will hurt me: Legionnaire's Clouded Air, rat-roach poison in small spaces & asbestos. In those situations I always have a respirator & goggles. You might not look at 'standing, brackish water' as the worst thing you can find near a system, but it is. It's usually a case of 'if you can see it, you probably already need treatment. It's in the humid air around you'. I have a Rescue Inhaler, use Ginger-Honey-Turmeric-Lemon tea, CBD, Black Seed Oil & Lion's Mane from Host Defense Mushrooms. (for Memory & Immune Support) The worst smell? In summer a mouse got into one of our trucks, into the return-air of our truck & into the blower-wheel. It liquified in less then 3 days, being spun around inside of the wheel & compartment. Mouse slurry. & yes, flies had laid maggots in it, somehow. By the time we had time (working 8am-10pm most summer days) on the 3rd morning to take the truck a/c apart it was just a pile of maggots, tiny bones & fur. Smelled like a zombie if you turned on the A/C.

Me, reading the title: "is "Philadephia legionnaires some sports expansion team, or what?" (After watching the video) "ohhh the earliest attested cases of legionella infection!"

Same. I always assumed that the name came about from Roman soliders drinking dirty water from the cistern tanks they often had at garrisons and forts 🤣

Same

I’ve heard of this occasionally being an issue on cruise ships…

I thought it had something to do with the French Foreign Legion!

If you’re wondering, I got it by catching tadpoles in a somewhat large “mud puddle” near a water reservoir. It was stagnant. Its amazing, and wonderful, that my daughter did not get sick.

@@davidmclaughlin2454 Well, I was about to tease you for chasing tadpoles, but I'm guessing you were doing it with your daughter, which is adorable. I'm shocked this disease affected you so profoundly! Glad you survived it - ahh to be young and invulnerable again, eh? :)

I had it about 4 years ago. I still struggle to catch my breath when I run. I still have pain in my left lung. I have no idea where I picked it up from.

@@squirrlycellist stale water is the primary source. while legionaries is fairly uncommon, it is totally possible for anyone to contract it just in passing

@@georgemccombe8471 My best guess is at some random restaurant. I still live in the same place and work in the same office. No one around me got sick or even the mild Pontiac fever as they call it. Total fluke.

Homeboy really discover a brand new bacteria because his boss roasted him in public

Homeboy really discover a brand new bacteria because his boss roasted him in public

@@Sandman_Slim ?

From a microbiology point of view they did great to identify this, it's incredibly difficult to culture even now with specific agar and perfect growth conditions. Nowadays we tend to use PCR as trying to physical isolate it is just laborious

Yeah it’s a good thing he felt that spite because if it were me I would’ve quit lmao

Thank you for your work! Im trying to get my high school aged son interested in a trade

I saw an episode of "Forensic Files/Breaking the Mold" about a family in Texas who unknowingly had a leak from one of their appliances that caused water to accumulate under the floor causing toxic mold. It's the most shocking story of what can happen under your very nose in your own home. Here's the link and btw, it's not an easy profession by any stretch and I admire people who do the type of work you do. .kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hthigMqCrNOro40.html

What about those pipes used to reduce water hammering? Could they become stagnant?

We do a yearly boiling water passes to boil out any bacteria that could accumulate in the piping.

There was a similar outbreak at a fair in North Carolina in 2019, from a sales display of hot tubs. Some of the people who became ill merely walked by the hot tub display. Dipping your hand in a tub wouldn't matter, since the bacteria is carried in the water droplets that become aerosolized and float in the air where people inhale them. 96 people were hospitalized and 4 died in the North Carolina fair outbreak.

There was another outbreak just a month ago in the Netherlands, 15 sick and 1 death. A family member got sick from it and ended up in hospital for a while. They never found the source.

Holy shit! Seems like so many different hazards are everywhere around us…

@@anneboyd7811 True, it's more the aerosolized stuff that becomes dangerous. It's shocking that this sort of thing still happens decades on. Because when it happens, it usually ends up killing a bunch of people.

Holy whoa.

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This is also on an episode of Forensic Files

If you didn't say, or guess at LEAST 40 years ago. They could gaf about their employees now.

im glad your mother survived! it’s nuts how she managed to beat it twice she is simply built different

Sue it, why can this happen twice.

I had a parakeet growing up and I loved him! I kinda wanted to get another one eventually, but now I’m not so sure lol… I’m not even 30 and I’ve had a gnarly case of pneumonia (post parakeet lol), and a giant tumor in my lung, and I don’t think I wanna have any parakeet related lung issues lol

@@Donde_Lieta We have veterinarians, though. Make sure you have one before doing such. Adoption places often run across small animals, too. Besides, animals increase your immunity. I'm almost never sick (til I went back to school, NASTY HVAC, I'm assuming). The milkmaids didn't get mad cow (Crutzfield-Jacob, spelling? disease in people) due to daily cow exposure.

I don't blame you, the pronunciation got me too.

@@Donde_Lieta Domestic birds are fine but not birds that squawk all day long like barking dogs. That's not healthy for any animal and it's really too much to listen to for people who live within earshot

I was once looking at a house and there was wet MOLD in the tray under the A/C. I was like NOPE.

Oh I love, love, love you adorable dog! (I love when people put their dogs on their pfp's)!💓🐕💓🐕💓🐕💓Stay well!🌺😊

@@isabellind1292 Thank you, Isabel! That’s so sweet of you! That’s my baby boy, Tiger. Hope you have a lovely day, stay well 🙏💚

@@MayimHastings Tiger! How adorable! Well thank you, I think he's the cutest little boy! Stay well and your little dog too!💓🐕🌺

I watched the PBS documentary about the flint water crisis, the local government covered up the Legionaries outbreak and didn’t want the rest of the country and the citizens of flint to even know about it. Honestly disgusted me

@@melatoninqueen6914 well they wanted an all blk government, so they got one.... And like every time, it turned out as expected.

You know the worst part? Flint Michigan water quality is average for United States.

@@whiteyfisk9769 "what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. Everyone is now dumber for having listened to it. May God have mercy on your soul"

@@codfishbricker a simple no would've sufficed but ok. KNIBB HIGH FOOTBALL RULES!!!

Took them less time to identify Sars-CoV-19 than it took that scientist. So yeah, he should have hurried up.

​@Strazdas you have to remember that in 1976, they didn't have all of the modern scientific methods and instruments that we now have available.

Oh, that's right! I'd read about that poor man and forgotten.

I know someone who caught it from a bag of compost that had been sitting in the rain. Also in New Zealand I heard a child died after peeling potatoes with her grandmother. 😢

@@yvonnegill2155 Terribly sad. Who would even think such a sickness was lurking in those situations?!

I came down to the comments to see if anyone had said anything about this case. Gardeners beware: when opening a bag of potting soil, it is best to do so in an open area, wearing a face covering, and then allowing the soil to sit exposed to the air and sun for ten or fifteen minutes. Legionnaire's is rare in bags of potting soil, but the onset of the disease in this case is highly preventable.

That's good to know, I had no idea it could be in soil as well, makes sense now that I think about it, but I'm glad to now know this! One more thing to be cautious of.

The guy who owns the pharmacy where my family gets all our medicine from does something similar to that. He does it with creams/lotions/ointments for people who have different skin conditions. He even keeps a book on medication that's safe to give pets and the amount per pound that should be given. He's been a godsend for us and saved us a few trips to the vet when my cat Carlisle got sick. Gave him a few doses of children's Benadryl and he was right as rain in a few days.

Hand tailored medicine is still done at some pharmacies, but generally its not profitable as factory made will be cheaper than the materials youll use up to make it. So nowadays its mostly used in rare diseases where factory stamping does not have enough demand and, interestingly enough, in pet diseases.

Yes, I thought so too. I have to ask my Dad if he knew, he is a doctor and worked as a bacteriologist at a research institute for a while.

So I asked and he knows the real story but admitted he told me the foreign legion story when I was a kid. Apparently he thought that's a "better story" to tell a child. He also told me cancer is when actual crabs live in your stomach and bite you...

Same here - I had no idea it was identified only within my parents' lifetime.

I already knew about that is was identified after this outbreak but clearly not everyone knows

@@c.w.8200 That one about Cancer is just a next level dad joke.

but the health department doesn't do that....it's up to the owner, fake story

@@r.m.5548 We were the owners, the building was sold to us (maybe "acquired" wasn't the best word to use). Also. we (the Facilities Department) often work with our Health and Safety Department on matters such as this to properly coordinate matters that involve potentially harmful exposure (Asbestos, mold, and things of that nature). Sorry, I didn't include more details, but I figure most people don't want to read paragraphs of text Just trying to relate an experience in my career to the content of the video and engage in a channel I enjoy.

@@r.m.5548 Could you just shut up?

@@3bydacreekside You first

@@ThePogue95 did you switch accounts just so you could say that.

I was in high school too at the time. :)

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In the UK we are fine as we don't have air conditioners lol, the weather is hardly ever hot enough, but thanks for discovering the disease for us.

@@chatteyj umm no I saw one of the posts said they were from the Uk and they had outbreaks of it.

@@chatteyj We do get it in the UK, stagnant water can cause it like in old water tanks.

I never thought about that and am guilty of having used plain water on occasion, I will definitely always use the right stuff now, thank you

Used to put water & vinegar, but quit due it clogging up or something. Now all I use is concentrate found in stores

People put plain water in the windshield washer container? Maybe it's just because I live in a cold climate but I always use just windshield washer fluid. If I put water in all I'd get was free ice on my windshield in the winter

I'm guilty of washing my hands with the windscreen sprayers.

Jesus christ I have never used windscreen washer in my car Guess who is going to buy one asap

I always assumed it was named centuries ago after the French foreign legion. Never realised it was so recent.

Yeah same, never connected them together either. Even being close to exposure on occasion as a tech that dealt with cooling towers.

I only really know of it and its effects from that amazing House storyline

There was an outbreak of swine flu in the oughts.

I gotta say, I learned about this in high school, but every few years the story pops up or just pokes my brain and the story never gets less crazy and interesting.

"germ hipster" I love that term.

@@SweetestHoney86 lol! I made it up this morning whilst writing this comment, but I think I’m gonna use it all the time now 😂. It’s funny because for 2 semester before covid I would always wear masks during cold and flu season at school ( university is germy and once I caught a cold and got a fever and was forced to be hospitalized for 3 days- so I vowed I wouldn’t get sick lol)- and I’m an opera singer so I’d always Lysol down the piano keys and complain about having to sing in my masks and being the only “weirdo” on the airplane wearing a mask - and I’d always make memes about it to share with my cancer support group friends, and then a year later literally everyone was doing the same thing, lol. So me and my friends always joke about it “I was wearing masks before they were cool” 😂

There needs to be more concerns when it comes to clean air. I didn’t know bacteria could be caused in an air conditioner:(

@@whitedragoness23 people should have their heating and AC systems inspected annually for these kinds of issues. I’m sure most public places in developed countries require it.

About 20 ago, there was an elementary school in my district that had mold all over the place after summer break, because spores had gotten in and spread via the ducts. They had to shut it down for cleaning. I can easily believe that germs and bacteria can spread that way too. I shudder to think what the insides of the vents sometimes look like. I guess, though, most people don't really think about it.

Well he only ended up finding it after putting in the extra hours once his boss went in on him 🤷‍♂️ sometimes tough love works

Also swimming pools/hot tubs.

I don't feel near as bad about not knowing the history of the name now 🙂

Unless you lived in that time and area it wasn't worldwide news. I mean yes 27 preventable deaths are bad, but compared to what? Car accidents, drug overdoses, cancer, heart attacks, it's just not something people learn about. That's what I love about this channel.

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You should definitely look up some of the stuff you're working with, it can provide important context that can even be useful in the lab! :)

@@effluviah7544 To be fair when I study in college we don’t really get deep into how and why things are named. The only important thing is how to know what’s causing the illness.

You'd think they'd show the maintenance guy how to maintain it. It makes more sense than paying someone when there's nothing wrong, BUT then you know it's done.

✨Philly history sweet , I like that. 🧚🏼‍♀️🌻

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I am originally from PA and always known of the American Legion. It was considered a private club that we went to as an after hours. I never known it was the beginning of how legionnaires disease. PA history at its finest.

We're much worse off with vax mandates and enforced lockdowns. There's a big difference between routine safety and mad tyranny.

@@vcdonovan5943 where did they mention vaccine mandates or lockdowns?

@@vcdonovan5943 Nobody mentioned the virus or the shot. But everyone I know had it. Still alive, even people that tested positive, which is real common right now. You had to have at least a half dozen shots before going to school. You would if you were in the military, too. This one is no big deal, really. Even old people got it. Still alive. If you don't want it, then don't go out and stay away from everyone. Use curbside. Don't get close to anyone. Please consider how many shots you already had to have that have very nasty consequences. Polio is the big one. Yes, there was a mistake early on and yes it gave people polio and killed some. But it's extremely nasty to get. Tetanus is another. I get it for being around animals, but I'd suggest anyone get it. It's only every 10 years. Lockjaw is also very nasty. Rabies is post exposure (unless you're a dog), But there's another excellent shot. It's pretty much been eradicated, like polio. I don't get near anyone to begin with in the first place, so the shot wasn't necessary until I wanted to go to the symphony. I could have just tested and been done, too. I didn't have it. Symphony was one of the places I felt safest this whole time. The other was the dentist. Old people and rich people jumped right on the shot, and while not into being experimented on, everyone i know got it right away. I could see "them" killing off poor people, but rich ones keep the lights on (taxes) and are insiders. That's in a very science fiction way. Not reality. I've heard some illogical things. It makes you magnetic. It does not. Silverware used to generate views may have been shown to "idiot Americans" because stainless isn't magnetic to start with. I know people who were pregnant. No problems. They don't have to "track you" with GPS. Every time you move, your phone already does that. Cars often have something like that, too.

@@vcdonovan5943 crybaby

Yea this channel is awesome, he made a video about Centralia recently. I live near there and have been there a few times, and read the history of it In the video, he told me things I hadnt heard about it before, really awesome research skills

@@Vid_Master Centralia was my introduction to the channel! I've already binged everything he's uploaded; such quality documenting, without the sensationalism that can plague other true drama channels. Thank you, Fascinating Horror!

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@@dellaboca9737 legend 🙏

Ok

When you dont sleep till the next episode. That is the the time to worry. 🇬🇧👍

I love this videos I want more 😊 Fascinating horror: no worries, there is more *Surprised Pikachu meme*

For me, it's not a Tuesday without an episode from Fascinating Horror.

Are you older than antibiotics?

@@alienvomitsex what?

Except for when the scientists and politicians are all lying to scare you into submission. Then it isn't science. Can YOU tell the difference?

Just what I was thinking 😂

@hey it's pete it's real

@hey it's pete how ironic. It’s okay though as natural selection are taking care of your kind.

@hey it's pete ?

Crazy stuff! I lived in Philly at the time. Freaked me out.

Same thing happened in the Netherlands according to a comment on this video.

Mountain State Fair, not the State Fair

@@joshuaguenin9507 yes that's correct, i'll edit my comment

I was looking at houses and saw a NASTY drain tray on an HVAC. Yeah. Screw that. I'm out. Water damage can be real pervasive. And black mold can grow in your lungs, too.

Apparently putting place names in front of places is racist in 21, aka wuhan Covid 😂

I remember this story! The outbreak happened at the NC Mountain State Fair held Sept. 6-15, 2019 at the Western North Carolina Agricultural Center in Fletcher, NC. There was a promotional display of hot tubs at the fair, some of which were kept filled and running for demonstration purposes, and some of the people who became ill merely walked by the display. The bacteria was in the water droplets that sprayed into the air. 136 people became ill, 96 were hospitalized, and four died.

What is the incubation period? I think its standing water (like vacant buildings), HVAC systems and hot tubs, isn't it?

Yes it is. They drained 300 cc of fluid from my right lung and it tested positive for the legionnaires. I was sent home from the hospital with the same antibiotic and a nebulizer.

cheers, thanks for the important research 🔬 protecting people from painful death

@@redacted9506 Thanks but what I did wasn’t research, just transposing old, hand-drawn diagrams into a CAD program.

This is why you can't let men be responsible for cleaning. Sorry. Most (straight) guys aren't that clean. Which is why any building where this got bad, is pretty much always the responsibility of a man. I think we have to teach women/girls basics of HVACs and boiler maintenance. As well as everything else...It shouldn't take 150.00 to have some guy dump the sedimentary water out if it... It's not like The Shining, because there's no way you'd risk a multi-million dollar building (or be able to insure it) for lack of a 5.00 shutoff/release valve. So, King's premise is pretty flawed, tho it made for a very exciting book ending...

@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 I ain't reading all that. But I'm happy for you. Or sorry that happened to you.

I kept contracting pneumonia at a long term care facility I worked at in KC. It was in a low lying area, a picturesque creek ran through the property. The owners were extremely sketchy. The minute they started yapping about "mold abatement " we all knew what was up. One of the aides and I pulled up a section of carpet and the entire floor was solid black mold, wall to wall.