The Philosophy of Stray: Deleuze's Difference and Repetition

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Epoch Philosophy

Epoch Philosophy

Күн бұрын

Stray, but with metaphysics and language in mind. I've sung the praises of this game, and it's one of my favorites of 2022. It does a lot of things to push a narrative in an unconventional way and posits a plethora of questions that I think are worth investigating.
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Timestamp:
Stray, the Video Game: 0:00
Bridging Language and Metaphysics: 2:30
Difference and Repetition: 8:33
An Analysis, Philosophy of Stray: 12:20
Thanks!: 20:30

Пікірлер: 69
@epochphilosophy
@epochphilosophy Жыл бұрын
Hey, friends. Consider supporting the channel for a few dollars a month over on Patreon. Helps keep this whole (tiny) operation going. And you have my life-long eternal gratitude, of course: patreon.com/epochphilosophy
@alberteinstein7464
@alberteinstein7464 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video entirely on difference and repetion just breaking down what deluze metaphysic is? It sounds possibly perfect
@epochphilosophy
@epochphilosophy Жыл бұрын
@@alberteinstein7464 So, I try not to make videos that aren't already out there on KZfaq in a decent capacity. PlasticPills did a great video on Deleuze's reading of Nietzsche that really goes into his metaphysics. Certainly in the future from now something more direct around Difference and Repetition is possible.
@jackri7676
@jackri7676 Жыл бұрын
The commodity economy is unfortunately not fit for the quality of content you provide. I hope you know how much your work is appreciated even if it doesn't get enough viewership to be commercially appreciated, so to speak. It really does mean a lot to our niche that you make the videos you do
@luker.6967
@luker.6967 Жыл бұрын
based pfp
@adriansaker4058
@adriansaker4058 Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your work on this channel, always enjoy the videos. Thank you.
@Ysidoroh
@Ysidoroh Жыл бұрын
What a banger. Glad to see you're still putting out such good stuff man.
@epochphilosophy
@epochphilosophy Жыл бұрын
Oh shit, good to see you here, man. Haven't heard from you in some time. How are you doing?
@Ysidoroh
@Ysidoroh Жыл бұрын
@@epochphilosophy I've been great! I actually just read a book that for some reason made me think of you. I shot you a pm on Instagram but then got on KZfaq and had this video recommended to me which I felt was pretty wild haha
@will29475
@will29475 Жыл бұрын
nice seeing you branch out!! this is one of your best imo
@epochphilosophy
@epochphilosophy Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. Really love doing different things. It's always a little difficult doing different stuff and mixing up your routine ways on KZfaq for a plethora of reasons, but it's always the most enjoyable creative process there is.
@albertoarmenta2772
@albertoarmenta2772 Жыл бұрын
I love this video, and your work. I send you a like from Mexico
@LogicGated
@LogicGated Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed stray too, love watching video essays like these on it.
@TheJayman213
@TheJayman213 Жыл бұрын
Love it. Nonlingual, i.e. nonconceptual communication is necessary for overcoming subject-object-dualism. I just read David R. Loy's Nondualism in Buddhism and Beyond. It's great, it's got a whole chapter on Heidegger's "What is called thinking" and a critique of Derrida's Grammatology as not going far enough to deconstruct itself, alongside the main attraction of identifying a nondualist core-doctrine in Buddhism, Vedanta and Daoism. It helped me not stress myself about picking a side between Materialists and Hegelians by pointing out how superficially diametrically opposed views like Buddhism's denial of subjects and Vedanta's conception of the whole universe as a single subject may very well be attempts to describe the same experience.
@bugjams
@bugjams Жыл бұрын
Man I wish i could understand a single word you said here.
@vaporchild1821
@vaporchild1821 9 ай бұрын
i’m completely unknowledgable about buddhist philosophy for the most part, but recently stumbled across a video on nagarjuna’s philosophy and was quite struck by its similarities to derrida’s differance and antimetaphysics-would you have any recommendations for similar thinkers in the buddhist taoist and vedanta tradition?
@maxhill1827
@maxhill1827 5 күн бұрын
@@bugjamsHe’s talking about why you shouldn’t put mayonnaise on your hot dog
@curryquipique6098
@curryquipique6098 9 ай бұрын
Intriguing analysis and I must say I love it. I would love to see your analysis on Outer Wilds, because I can see some of difference & repetition in Outer Wilds. Keep it up :)
@starkid910
@starkid910 7 ай бұрын
Seconded! That game made me cry
@hyperrealhank
@hyperrealhank Жыл бұрын
I bought this game because of this video - I had not known about it previously at all. The visuals are stunning and the story is quite interesting. Gameplay is definitely slow so far but I think that's not the main focus. It's a very chilled out experience so far
@epochphilosophy
@epochphilosophy Жыл бұрын
So cool to hear! Absolutely adore the game.
@Sebal007
@Sebal007 Жыл бұрын
@@epochphilosophy and the game brought me here. I am not in the Philosophy bubble but reddit connected me and this was a very interesting video to watch!
@Sebal007
@Sebal007 Жыл бұрын
Yea, it's mostly a chilled experience and the reason I love it so much. So many moments to take in and think about.
@Azafell
@Azafell Жыл бұрын
i love your channel, we have very similar reading interests. your presentation is very on point and i hope the algorithm does you more good in the future... i will send this video to like-minded friends.
@epochphilosophy
@epochphilosophy Жыл бұрын
Very, very kind. Thanks so much.
@dionysianapollomarx
@dionysianapollomarx Жыл бұрын
I like your reference to Chomsky. His application of his original theory of innateness is an "opposite" to any interactionist philosophy of language. But, Chomsky himself refers to himself as a Humboldtian (Humboldt is an interactionist of a sort about language because German Romantics almost always are). His theory of innateness is specifically a theory of I-language (I for internal), which for him is what real language constitutes. Not all living things have I-language, only humans do, or else crows, octopi, and dolphins could create poetry or ideas and imprint them on cultural artifacts, enough to stand the test of time, and yet they don't. E-language, which he also coined, refers to sign language, speech, or other forms of communication which externalizes I-language. Chomsky does not care to theorize about semantics or phonology or sociolinguistics, because all of that is E-language, not the substance of the mental faculty of language, but the substance of something else outside the mind (the sociocultural reality external to and externalized by many human minds, not to mention the force that historical context of reality has on perception and understanding). Chomsky complements any externalist, if you read him correctly and if you read other externalists as social externalists (not semantic internalist) (this lingo is analytic philosophy lingo btw). A coincidence of opposites, if you will, following Hegel and other dialecticians. Thanks for the awesome video.
@epochphilosophy
@epochphilosophy Жыл бұрын
Very happy you enjoyed. You know your philosophy of language well!
@kylerodd2342
@kylerodd2342 10 ай бұрын
Loved this video
@barimonsterful
@barimonsterful Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this excellent analysis! The theme of language and communication was so crucial to my interpretation of this game too and it had me just emotional wrecked by the ending ❤️ GOTY or bust!
@epochphilosophy
@epochphilosophy Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the love. Wonderful game and very worth the attention!
@notaprob4rob970
@notaprob4rob970 Жыл бұрын
Hey, an Alan Watts clip! I see a lot of his lectures posted on KZfaq but not too many about his work in any real depth. Wondering if you had any ideas on the guy/his ideas and if you’d ever do a video on it?
@epochphilosophy
@epochphilosophy Жыл бұрын
Was talking to someone in the discord about him! Bergson and him have some overlap as being, somewhat, process theologians.
@notaprob4rob970
@notaprob4rob970 Жыл бұрын
@@epochphilosophy Interesting, haven’t looked into Bergson yet. Might have to take that up soon now. Thanks for the tip and the vid, loved this one a lot
@epochphilosophy
@epochphilosophy Жыл бұрын
@@notaprob4rob970 I've also not read Bergson, but will likely start soon. Thanks a ton, dude!
@luker.6967
@luker.6967 Жыл бұрын
@@epochphilosophy Husserl’s Ephoce as well.
@talentedboy35
@talentedboy35 Жыл бұрын
Perfect timeing I'm reading this right now!
@what.company
@what.company Жыл бұрын
Actually the manifestation of what I dreamed the Internet could be xo 🙏✊🖤
@Fryguystudios
@Fryguystudios Жыл бұрын
More seriously, if you found the play between humans, robots, and animals interesting, critical posthumanism studies pairs well with Deleuze and Guatariii, with Foucault probably being the only one referenced more due to his famous "death of man" quote at the beginning of "The Order of Things".
@gabrielmiller4176
@gabrielmiller4176 Жыл бұрын
brilliant
@charlieh9973
@charlieh9973 Жыл бұрын
I'm hype for this one!
@emilianopereda7643
@emilianopereda7643 8 ай бұрын
“Ourselves in relation with the environment”
@slavtrash
@slavtrash Жыл бұрын
what was the speech in the beginning of the video?
@jakecarlo9950
@jakecarlo9950 Жыл бұрын
Was that Alan Watts ❤ at the opening?
@user-ni5gx3pf5q
@user-ni5gx3pf5q Жыл бұрын
Amazing job. 👏
@xoohooo6277
@xoohooo6277 6 ай бұрын
Dialectics as male birth control had me dying💀
@inlieuofsense9521
@inlieuofsense9521 8 ай бұрын
the eternal return of difference is actually not entirely deleuze but allready hinted at in Nietzsches pereonal notes
@szamszatan
@szamszatan Жыл бұрын
we need a 3 day weekend
@nickolassegura6300
@nickolassegura6300 Жыл бұрын
And from a sociological perspective, the implications of a system(in the game, the history tied to capitalism and class), has on later generations, even in death! For instance, humans have long been eradicated. Yet, their(our) system is still influencing our sentient robot ancestors actions and philosophies. There are different programs set to maintain the previous system’s values and roles, seen through the robotic, human made, antagonist, along with the ecological effects of the maintenance of the previous system(those hungry thingies) that our main kitty character struggle with. Like, the issue can be addressed by doing something as simple as opening a window(or a huge rooftop dome), to let in some fresh air and light
@emiliaerle6030
@emiliaerle6030 Жыл бұрын
Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou has the same vibe of postcyberpunk posthuman optimism
@BillyBob-xo6fc
@BillyBob-xo6fc 7 ай бұрын
Yoneda Lemma
@Zoner125
@Zoner125 8 ай бұрын
One word for power used by Deleuze: puissance. Sounds like a play on "pussy" (no, as in the cat). Perhaps a deliberate or unconscious choice on the part of the game makers? All new to me.
@assoaz5908
@assoaz5908 Жыл бұрын
I was playing this game last month but i stoped playing it because it gave me a bad headache i was feeling deazy
@MrJackF
@MrJackF Жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@Fryguystudios
@Fryguystudios Жыл бұрын
Ok, but I still want to know more about Jeyeles Del Gato, and his partner Guitaroo man.
@TheTuubster
@TheTuubster 3 ай бұрын
Always puzzled by the question "What comes after death?" We all know the answer already: The same that came before your birth. So if you want to know how you will experience death: The same way you experienced yourself before your birth: Not.
@jdorchen
@jdorchen 9 ай бұрын
The word "prescient" doesn't seem to mean anything recognizable here. But Deleuze's justification for consciousness surviving death is unpersuasive anyway. It doesn't matter what one "needs" to perceive or conceive of a thing. Nothing doesn't care if you can perceive or imagine it or not. The inability to imagine one's absence from existence has no bearing on the possibility of that absence. Philosophy eternally returns to exposing itself as nothing more than an intriguing discussion. Kierkegaard: "Philosophy is like a shop with a sign in the window that says, 'shirts pressed here,' but when one enters, one learns that only the sign is for sale." Fun! But, in the end, just fun. But keep going with the fun! Fail again. Fail better, Deleuze!
@jdorchen
@jdorchen 9 ай бұрын
I do believe consciousness survives the death of the body. But I don't believe it due to Deleuze's dumb argument. I believe it agnostically, and furthermore I believe in panpsychism for the same unreason.
@juancarlosalonso7268
@juancarlosalonso7268 Жыл бұрын
Niice
@chiefynproud1787
@chiefynproud1787 Жыл бұрын
Gamer moment
@chiefynproud1787
@chiefynproud1787 Жыл бұрын
On a serious note though i think more game philosophy content would be pretty rad, bioshock for example is ripe for this sort of thing
@epochphilosophy
@epochphilosophy Жыл бұрын
@@chiefynproud1787 Bioshock would certainly be a good one. But, yes, I really want to do more applied philosophy with games.
@carn8ge
@carn8ge Жыл бұрын
@@epochphilosophy indeed like kojima's games, the persona franchise and the like
@epochphilosophy
@epochphilosophy Жыл бұрын
@@carn8ge I believe my love for Metal Gear is too much for this channel to withhold. That would be a good one.
@BludPanda
@BludPanda Жыл бұрын
Me as a game designer: Stray is alright I guess. Philosopher: Stray is the best game I've played in a long time. I'm really glad you liked the game. Personally I wanted to see more narrative and mechanical substance in Stray. It seems to have the foundation of an amazing game but only expresses it in a shallow way. For instance, despite the dangers of the places the cat is parkouring through, its surprisingly very hard to fall off of something and die. The unique movement in the game is many times locked to a specific track rather than giving full control to the player. This is likely because it would have been far harder to develop. Many of the downfalls of Stray could be explained by time and budget...the narrative is not any different. The commentary in Stray is far more vague than other games and so I don't see it as artistically intentional but a consequence of development. What I am saying is that I don't think the game is very deep and the vagueness makes it appear deeper than it is. I am excited to see a sequel that can expand off a great foundation.
@benzur3503
@benzur3503 Жыл бұрын
9:45 not binary
@rosaconnolly3485
@rosaconnolly3485 Жыл бұрын
Great content but as Marx said “The philosophers have hitherto only interpreted the world in various ways, The point, however, is to change it.”
@gabrielmiller4176
@gabrielmiller4176 Жыл бұрын
brilliant
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