The Plastic Paradox

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Plastics have made products safer, more available, and more convenient. This especially benefits the most vulnerable people in the world. But are the downsides of plastics worth these benefits?
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@smbusinessowner 2 жыл бұрын

There's a lot of litter in my neighborhood. For a long time I adopted a disappointed-in-humanity response to this, but then I started to notice how infrequently I encountered any kind of waste receptacle. A lot of my area of the city is low-income. So in answer to the question, "Who even litters anyway?" my theory, for at least where I live, is that it's people who, because public transportation is so poorly funded here and offers such sparse service, walk a lot, can't juggle all their disposable cups and food wrappers, and aren't finding any appropriate places to dispose of them.

@penname8441 2 жыл бұрын

@KarolaTea 2 жыл бұрын

It's interesting how we've come to expect public waste bins everywhere, even in remote locations. Hiking trail in a forest? Better be having waste bins or people will litter. And then there's places like Japan, almost no public waste bins around, yet no litter. What do people do? Carry their trash back home to their own bins. All a matter of habit I suppose. (Although as a spoiled Westener I also appreciate being able to dump my waste in public bins, so I'm certainly not against them existing. But like... it's not an excuse to litter, imo?)

@AssimilationKaelThas 2 жыл бұрын

💯 If they didn't have bins for 3D glasses right at the exit of the movie theater, they would be everywhere too.

@rayne333 2 жыл бұрын

This is interesting because I also live in a low income neighborhood but there are public waste bins all throughout the apartment complex I live in & yet people still throw trash everywhere. i will often find trash on the ground only a few feet from the trash can & it honestly makes me want to cry. Unless it’s something super disgusting like food waste that has been partially eaten I will usually pick it up & throw it away but I don’t understand why my disabled ass should have to do that when I have so many able bodied neighbors that just refuse to do the bare minimum. Okay I guess my disappointment in humanity is coming out, oops! 😬😩 I will say however that our neighborhood is very old & poorly maintained & I absolutely do understand the mindset of seeing that the larger community doesn’t care for your wellbeing so why should you care for the wellbeing of the larger community? I’ve felt that way myself many times. I think if you aren’t a part of marginalized communities it’s very easy to judge when you don’t have those same struggles & systemic injustices to deal with on the daily.

@KarolaTea 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah in my experience it's irrelevant how many bins there are or how affluent the neighbourhood is, people litter everywhere. Some places just receive more funding for street cleaning than others.

@samr9483 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I use reusable bags not because they're more environmentally friendly, but because they're less likely to break while I'm walking back with my groceries. I lost a bottle of teriyaki sauce one day catching the bus back with my groceries and decided not to do that again. I've heard paper bags are more environmentally friendly than the other options, but I don't trust those to be durable enough for my needs so I stick with the reusable ones.

@GoogelyeyesSaysHej 2 жыл бұрын

Reusable plastic is great!! There are a bunch that are made of nylon and fold down to very small sizes

@Zeverinsen 2 жыл бұрын

I once lost an entire bottle of cherry to this terrible fate. I always carry a reusable bag on me now. Also, they're more comfortable to carry!

@magical571 2 жыл бұрын

reusable bags are mandatory here in chile. you can't get disposable plastic bags at stores anymore. it's been that way for a few years now.

@Marie-Ray 2 жыл бұрын

@@magical571 do you have Paper Bags though? Some Stores in the US only have those (or those are the Default Option)

@dijonjohn1011 Жыл бұрын

@@magical571 Crazy how Chile has managed to do that, while people in America are still pretending like it would be too much of a strain on our nations poor people...

@eldritchjoe7642 2 жыл бұрын

I live in a small rural town in the far frozen north of the states, where Wal-Mart has killed off all the local competition. It's the only thing left really for reliably being able to find what you need for at least an hour in any direction. I hate shopping there, but for some items, I just have to. If they shut down overnight, half the jobs in the town (that everyone agrees is the worst employer in town after the McDonald's) would disappear and I'd have to pick up Amazon again, which I have been able to cut out, to get those things that just aren't available here with the slow death of the farming towns out here where Verizon can't hear you for long stretches. I really believe we need to address Agriculture to boost every other effort. Revitalizing small local farms and their towns, really investing in them and new, younger farmers, decentralizing the farm industry, will help decentralize every other business and reduce traveling distance for goods, the amount of packaging needed, the refrigeration needed, etc AND promote regenerative farming practices, while rebuilding the income flow of the regions to rebuild economies with quality jobs.

@MrTeniguafez 2 жыл бұрын

One thing that even single-use plastic can be repurposed for is eco-bricks. In their current form they're basically plastic bottles densely packed with other plastic that can be used as a cheap and durable building material. With some R+D investment, a more permanent form can probably be found for it.

@hyperchica 2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking of eco-bricks when I watched this! I know someone who volunteers for an organisation that produces and works with those and they were fascinating to learn about.

@lyrablack8621 2 жыл бұрын

THIS IS SO INFURIATING. Plastic _is_ incredibly beneficial to us - just not in the sheet volume it's being produced at right now! The obvious solution is for companies like Starbucks to just invest in more durable plastic and refuse to serve anyone who won't reuse the cups/straws, y'know?? The problem isn't _plastic,_ the problem is _single-use plastic_

@martaso643 2 жыл бұрын

Single use plastics are definetely awful. But even other types of plastic will be disposed at some point... For example in construction and in agriculture, there are lots of plastic materials (which are extremely useful, practical and cheap) that deteriorate after a few years and most of the times that plastic cannot even be recycled...

@lyrablack8621 2 жыл бұрын

@@martaso643 Then invest in actually figuring out how to recycle it, there's a reason we use so much plastic, and it's because it's really good at a lot of stuff. I do think that whatever _can_ be replaced by other materials should, but whatever can't should just be replaced by higher quality plastic that we can actually recycle, _after_ reusing it a bajillion times. It is _much_ more sustainable to reuse a high quality plastic water bottle than to buy a brand new aluminum water bottle to replace it because "it's better for the environment". Sure, it's better if you're only looking at the end of its life cycle, because yes it can indeed be recycled. But you buying a _new_ aluminum water bottle? Great, you just had people blow up a mountain to get that aluminum despite the fact that you've got a perfectly fine plastic water bottle that you're already using. This is a more nuanced conversation than just "plastic bad"

@martaso643 2 жыл бұрын

@@lyrablack8621 yes, that makes a lot of sense. I wish more people would actually consider your point of view instead of going from one extreme to the other. Unfortunately a lot still needs to be done in order to find that ideal path. I hope we can get there. :) Thank you for your input.

@melie3054 2 жыл бұрын

I used to work there and trust me, *refusing* to serve people is the last model of service they’d want to pursue now. Which is y they jumped at the opportunity to stop requiring masks in stores when it happened. They’re built on caving into customers desires. It was always an uncomfortable convo on to have on straws when I was there. The city orders establishments to stop serving plastic straws. However, the customers would return to us halfway through their drink, asking for another straw bc the paper straw alternative gets soggy too fast. So you have customers who always take 2-3 straws with the drinks in anticipation of this.

@XerxesTexasToast 2 жыл бұрын

Plastic is actually pretty great when you make products that are meant to last for years. The shells of my game consoles are gonna last a long time, and that's a good thing! Not to mention that epoxy resin jewelry actually kind of rules. I think single-use plastics could also stand to be replaced by bioplastics that rot faster and/or are less toxic.

@veganagev2062 2 жыл бұрын

As much of a marxist as I am, I think you're being gentle on plastic pollution. As plastic starts to degrade and the plant starts to heat, the poor and marginalized will be the first suffer and the last to receive help. It'll cause growing pains, yes - but for long term human health and happiness for all people plastic needs to be eliminated for all but the most needed items (hospitals and disability services). English isn't my first language I hope this is understandable.

@sven_lu_ 2 жыл бұрын

You mentioned that a lot of the plastic in the oceans comes from poor countries. While true you should probably mention that many rich countries basically export their waste to poorer countries. Otherwise great video and thank you for supporting this cause!

@dude9318 2 жыл бұрын

Japan doesnt do that .So not every rich country does it

@maagic2031 2 жыл бұрын

@@dude9318 hence the word "many" and not "all"

@Marie-Ray 2 жыл бұрын

True and in Addition the poorer countries are often the Factories for the Eicher countries - leaving all the Fumes, Industry waste and chemicals behind

@dragoone7078 2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate this nuanced perspective, thank you T1J.

@JoRiver11 2 жыл бұрын

The most environmentally friendly shopping bag to use is one that you already own. Either re-using a "single use" one, or re-using sturdier one. I'm sure that most households already have some on hand. Some are made from recycled water bottles, they're great if you need to buy another one.

@BadAstra 2 жыл бұрын

This fundraiser is so incredibly important. Plastic and other toxins in our environment is a huge problem. And I get not feeling qualified to talk about it. I'm a scientist, and I still hesitate to discuss Climate Change on my channel because it's such a complicated issue.

@magical571 2 жыл бұрын

more like an uncomfortable one. Cause the future ain't bright in that regard, and that's something nobody wants to face to it's full consequences.

@BadAstra 2 жыл бұрын

@@magical571 Oh, yeah, I guess "complicated" is an innuendo for "we're all going to die in horrible natural disasters or of pollutant poisoning but eco-fascism isn't the answer."

@kentrush1547 2 жыл бұрын

Literally every time I watch your videos I am blown away by your thoughtfulness. I had not considered a lot if what you brought up. Its so important to have a wide perspective on things. Great video!

@chriscooper420 2 жыл бұрын

I'm not an expert in this, but I've heard a lot about uses for hemp including hemp plastic. It's biodegradable, easier to produce than regular plastic, and made from natural materials so the toxicity is at least reduced

@AxelLeJeff 2 жыл бұрын

I reuse most of my "single use" plastic bags, too, so that makes them way WAY more effective than cotton.

@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm 2 жыл бұрын

The Church of the Algorithm gives this video its blessing, and must it stay clear of the blasphemers from The First Algorithmic Temple (and the many people impersonating their members).

@chriscooper420 2 жыл бұрын

I love the 2D animations of you, they're super cute!

@chrisball3778 2 жыл бұрын

40-50% of oceanic plastic pollution is from fishing gear. The single most effective measure you can take to reduce oceanic plastic pollution is to not eat ANY seafood. T1J hits every other important beat, though. Still 100% a worthwhile cause.

@Nala15-Artist 2 жыл бұрын

You know that 70% of the world's fish production is farmed, right?

@titania9541 2 жыл бұрын

@@Nala15-Artist Fish farming is also responsible for an unconscionable amount of water pollution. It releases tons of pesticides and antibiotics into water ways, and the excess of feed and fish wastes it produces causes high levels of eutrophication. The crowded and unsanitary conditions of the farms also allows for the proliferation and spread of many diseases and parasites which can decimate nearby ecosystems. On top of all that, it also creates a lot of plastic pollution. Plastic is used extensively in fish farming in the form of fish cages, lining and shellfish bags. Also, most of the fishmeal used as feeds contains micro plastic which is reintroduced into the ecosystem with every feeding.

@Nala15-Artist 2 жыл бұрын

@@titania9541 Technically, that's true of virtually all mass food production.

@dijonjohn1011 Жыл бұрын

@@Nala15-Artist That is a pretty big false equivalency argument. Aquaculture is not only less efficient, it also produces more waste in our oceans.

@johnnewton1973 2 жыл бұрын

Most, if not all, companies treat disposal of their products as an externality to be borne by "someone else" and not a part of the product lifecycle and a cost associated with the product itself. IMO, this is the way that so many producers get away with producing products that either cannot be properly dealt with or are expensive to deal with. The cost of a product MUST include the cost of the disposal of that product if we want to close the loop on pollution and have meaningful change. Things like mandating single use plastics (or other single use products) be biodegradable might help with that.

@eklectiktoni 2 жыл бұрын

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@QBG 2 жыл бұрын

Plastic pollution is only going to get worse. As green energy initiatives take market share from fossil fuels, oil companies are going to pivot to producing more and more single-use plastics. Expect a huge propaganda campaign to accompany this, like with every other toxic industry ever.

@Napkiner 2 жыл бұрын

There needs to be pressure to make companies actually use recycled plastic and other recycled materials. A lot of the materials recycled are not purchased and may end up in the landfill anyways. Many places, including my neighborhood recycling plan, have stopped accepting certain recyclable materials like glass because no company is purchasing the recycled materials. Companies love to pat themselves on the back for making stuff that is recyclable, but refuse to actually drive the recycling industry by using those recycled materials.

@Rupert3434 2 жыл бұрын

Very good points in the beginning of this video!! As someone who spent their time in university researching the struggles of indigenous communities across the globe, there are several documented instances where ethnocentrism and failure to understand the political position of indigenous nations have caused environmental efforts to act at cross purposes with different indigenous movements, sometimes harming them or making their road to self determination more rocky in the process. Just because pollution is bad, doesn't make things less complicated. If your environmental methodology throws marginalized communities under the bus in the name of saving the planet, some of those communities may just end up siding with the people who want to destroy the planet in order to survive.

@ShadaOfAllThings 2 жыл бұрын

Microplastics are present in every living creature big enough to hold them on the planet but I guess it needs more research as to whether the destructive to biology particles of a material that doesn't break down is bad for us.

@dijonjohn1011 Жыл бұрын

Let me save us all some time and tell you that it is undoubtedly bad for us. I'm not sure how anyone in their right mind can think this needs more research... Companies love to muddy the waters when it comes to shit like this. It's the oldest trick in the playbook.

@Sean-sk1xr 2 жыл бұрын

T1J is without doubt the personification of nuance and reason, great video T1J; keep up the good work!

@Bendilin 2 жыл бұрын

Does nobody remember how plastic products like bags were made specifically to curb the use of paper/trees? T1J brings up several of the good points that show why plastic was used to begin with; It was ultimately cheaper and most economically better. But just because plastic bags are economically better overall than paper bags, that does not mean plastic bags are good at all. A 2/10 is twice as good as a 1/10, and plastic bags are a 2/10 solution overall.

@henryginn7490 2 жыл бұрын

Thinking about it though, surely paper use isn't that bad. I imagine there are some emissions, but the trees are roughly made of carbon, and that carbon would stay in the paper. Trees can also be regrown which makes them sustainable, and paper is recyclable (a few times anyway). If you're going to mention deforestation, most deforestation is actually to make space for animal agriculture, and many logging companies plant as many trees as they cut down, if not more.

@hyperchica 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Chibi T1J!

@melie3054 2 жыл бұрын

I like how you brought up how places like Walmart can be the only option poor ppl have. That’s why it’s so popular! Bc it’s the cheapest option. We need to work on presenting more alternatives for people to feel like they can make a difference. That’s why when I made my teamseas video, I proposed going to your local beach or river and spend a few minutes picking up trash over there. It’s free(ish) and helps to get a good workout in. I wanted to be considerate of ppl who can’t give away money to charity so freely. It was really educational when I decided to do that this week. I had no idea 90% of the pollution comes from just 10 rivers, but man it’s still a lot of trash everywhere. I was surprised at how much trash I collected within 10 minutes of walking. It shook me into wanting to get reusable straws. And also now realize how people are still littering carelessly! It’s awful! I think if people who lived closed enough to these ecosystems, or anywhere public really, took just 10-15 minutes to pick up trash, it would also make others realize how bad our pollution problem is. And take alternative solutions to everyday conveniences more seriously. Although I was surprised about that European graphic you had mentioning the gases emitted from alternatives. That goes back to what you said in the beginning. I think some people also have a hesitation in pursuing alternatives because of the education you have to pursue on it and sorting through the conflicting literature. That’s just me tho 👀 lol I really enjoyed this video though, it was a really informative spin on the hashtag. Thank you for making it

@magical571 2 жыл бұрын

thing is, time is money. if you are poor, you dont have the time and energy to spare doing that unless it truly is just a five minute walk away from you. and with poor poeple working long hours and 6 days a week, expecting them to use the one day they have to relax and spend with their family (or just enjoy themselves) cleaning away a beach far away, it's just unfair and unrealistic. what would really need to change is our economic system, so customers, poor or not, have more options and decision making available to them with their money (but that's hard, requires law making, you'll get a "red scare" behind you trying to do change any of it, and you'll be going against big corporations who held more power than your own president. so, yeah, good luck)

@dijonjohn1011 Жыл бұрын

It is a common misconception that Wal-Mart is actually the cheapest option. Wal-Mart loves its loss leaders, which are usually among the cheapest option. However, when you venture outside of those absurdly cheap products, Wal-Mart's prices are pretty medicore. I live close to a Wal-Mart, but shop at Win-Co/Cost-Co, simply because they are cheaper than Wal-Mart.

@elbowtiddies9832 2 жыл бұрын

Aaaah im so happy everyone's talking about this

@Viatoreptil 2 жыл бұрын

I always improve videos to increase environmental awareness! Thank you. Also l, if I recall, you're in Alabama? I've recently have been jealous of Alabama has some data shows that the state has the greatest diversity of tree and fish species in the United States. The region also has a lot of reptile and amphibian. Alabama is on my travel list now.

@beatriceotter8718 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for a thoughtful and nuanced dive into the problem of plastic. Environmental issues are really important to both current quality of life and future possibility of life, but they are also really complicated. (If these issues were simple, we would have solved them already!) So often, the simple easy answers that people come up with (ban straws!) either don't work or have severe negative consequences.

@bendingriver7101 2 жыл бұрын

The other thing about Walmart is that they set themselves up not only as the lowest price option but sometimes the only option for people in rural America. My girlfriend grew up in a town where Walmart was the only option. If she wanted groceries from literally anywhere else it was a 45 minutes drive. Her family had money, but who has the time to drive an hour and a half to get groceries from "not Walmart"

@MaeveLaFay 2 жыл бұрын

That was an excellent video. I'm so glad you mentioned the infrastructure issue. I feel like those of us in richer countries tend to forget the huge impact better infrastructure has. Also happy you mentioned that some are priced out of ethical purchase choices. Again something often overlooked, but important to take into account. On the note of being priced out, if anyone can't afford to donate/ doesn't know anyone who can, tab for cause has also partnered with Team Seas. They do use ad revenue, so make whatever choice your comfortable with.

@JadeDRail 2 жыл бұрын

I try not to use too much plastic but when you have severe depression sometimes it's heat up a frozen dinner or not eating at all.

@camillenovak8359 2 жыл бұрын

appreciate curiosity stream for paying #teamseas, pretty cool of them. Donated a couple bucks, thanks for letting us know, projects like these that demonstrate times when social media and influencers can do good work is heartening. $1 for 1 pound is a deal!

@sulljoh1 2 жыл бұрын

Great message

@AlRoderick 2 жыл бұрын

So since you joined this huge collab, I would suggest that on this one occasion is na jus you doe.

@XerxesTexasToast 2 жыл бұрын

We need to clean up all the plastic in the ocean and then immediately reintroduce it to the the supply chain via recycling. We need to be recycling ALL single-use plastic back into multi-use plastics. I want electronics encased in 100% recycled plastic ten years from now. Great breakdown of the subject, thanks for sharing your research with us!

@Zeverinsen 2 жыл бұрын

Even if we stopped the production of all plastic immediately, we're not gonna get rid of the produced plastic as it is now. We need more funds allocated to further research on sorting and recycling plastic for the future. Maybe we need international production regulations to ensure world wide recyclability, but any type of change like that takes time, effort and money to do.

@liamm32 2 жыл бұрын

It's impressive that you found this much relevant information in the research for this video, despite knowing little about the topic before. I am surprised by how much I learned here.

@catw807 2 жыл бұрын

donated! appreciate you doing this

@ToriHalfon 2 жыл бұрын

Great program

@SEGAClownboss 2 жыл бұрын

This jump to that Seas stuff is pretty well coordinated among a lot of creators and that's nice

@racheltadeu346 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed on the littering haha, boggles my mind

@VeganAtheistWeirdo 2 жыл бұрын

I'm one of those stubborn people who really should be on a Walmart budget but refuses to shop there, with rare exceptions. But I don't go around telling people not to shop there themselves, either. At this point I know I'm not making any difference except in a tiny corner of my brain that will not forgive or forget their oversized role in the cheapshitification of all retail stores in this country. Also, reusable bags don't have to be new-source cotton! Make them from recycled clothes. Boom, instantly better than the single-use impact. My favorites, though, are made of a nylon (yes, plastic) material and they roll up into compact little balls so they're easy to always have with me when I shop, and they have single, large, over-shoulder handles. Super strong, hold a lot, also made (supposedly) from recycled materials. Poorer folks can't afford all natural fiber clothing or shopping bags, or to avoid shopping at Walmart, that's true. But I can't believe anyone who would participate in this type of cleanup event and watch your channel would actually judge someone for something that's beyond their means to control, and if they do, they're not getting it.

@jamiekishimoto7980 2 жыл бұрын

I was really interested to hear your take on an environmentalist issue and you did not disappoint. I wish more people took in consideration the nuances and larger societal context of these issues

@leanna3625 2 жыл бұрын

That's the most annoying thing here is the constant blame shifting to consumers. We have a lot of options for compostable packaging now, and companies could use those. The same goes for blaming the American diet for climate change and ignoring regenerative agriculture.

@cartoontrash5096 2 жыл бұрын

8:05 this graph is accounting for the resources that go into different materials for grocery bags, not what happens to them afterwards. If you think of every trip to the grocery store as X number of bags that could or could not go into the trash and into the ocean, then it’s very obviously worth the extra effort, especially if the reusable bag already exists. To boot, most of the bags sold at the register for re-use are some sort of woven or non-woven polyester, which, according to this chart, justifies its use over plastic bags in less than 50 uses. That’s like 1-2 years of consistent use. My bags are all different materials, because they’ve been collected over several years from school fundraisers, sporting events, freebies from companies, etc. I didn’t buy them for this purpose, my parents have just been hoarding them and I consolidated them all and put them in our car. Don’t get me wrong, sometimes it’s not possible to bring your own bags. It’s more expensive to get more if you’re one bag short, and you can’t use your own bags for curbside or delivery, which a lot of us have been doing during the pandemic. I’ve also found that shopping in-person is way worse for my ADHD than ordering online or through an app, so that’s something else to consider. Even with all of that, I still consider bringing my own bags better than using one-use plastic bags wherever possible. Idk it just doesn’t sit well with me when people present counterpoints that make my efforts seem useless, seemingly to excuse themselves from doing something that they might just have a genuine personal reason not to do. We all do what we can, and we shouldn’t feel guilty about what we genuinely can’t do.

@ArtieCarden 2 жыл бұрын

this is a great video!

@oggyboggy8692 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to know T1Js opinion on Leena Norms video on TeamSeas. I think she brings up some really interesting points about if this is a great way to go, positives, negatives about clearing plastic in this way and about this kind of activism in general.

@Seal0626 2 жыл бұрын

Another problem with boycotts is that they can undermine strikers. If the purpose of a strike is to apply pressure to those responsible for balancing supply and demand by restricting supply, reducing demand eases that pressure rather than increasing it.

@Mrpapayaheadrulesall 2 жыл бұрын

The note on the environmental impact of different grocery bags is misleading. It takes 7100 reuses of a cotton bag to replace *one* plastic bag, but if you reused it 7100 times, you would be replacing 7100 plastic bags. the point actually evens out at 84 reuses. You only have to use a cotton bag 84 times to replace the impact of 84 plastic bags, which is still a lot, but it's not unreasonable.

@Nala15-Artist 2 жыл бұрын

There is another thing to consider: Cotton bags can be regrown. Plastic (except for wood plastic, thank you germany) is not renewable, we WILL run out eventually. Once resources become scarce (and I mean REALLY scarce) recycling is a KEY component of ANY economy. Plastics are bad at recycling, no way around that.

@annabelapurva-madhuri4861 2 жыл бұрын

Niceeee 🙌🏼❤️🙏🏼

@Andre-qo5ek 2 жыл бұрын

look into fast fashion if you want to get another angle on how bad waste is ( especially since so much close is made of plastic). and where that fast fashion is coming from.

@teawithbaba9659 Жыл бұрын

Coca cola use to have a bottle exchange. They sold their sodas in glass bottles, and there were receptacles where consumers could return their used coke bottles and get like a nickle or something small for the trouble. Then coke would sterilize the bottles and reuse them. Sure glass is a little more expensive, but if we forced companies to pay for all the plastic trash they create, I think more reasonable systems like this might come back into favor. There is definitely a place for single use items, but we have a lot of petroleum alternatives now, we can make plastic that will eventually break down and doesn't become a health hazard to anything. We just need to force companies to make the change to re-usable and non-petroleum based products.

@deadlypandaghost 2 жыл бұрын

One thing that annoys me surrounding environmental conversations is that people always cite landfill space as an issue. Its not. Modern landfills are environmentally safe, extremely compact, and fairly cheap. The net land area for all the worlds trash is absolutely tiny because of layering and compacting. The very few issues found with landfills have been due to cut corners with the foundation layers leading to water contamination. Its basically a solved problem if we can figure out a way to consistently get all the trash into them.

@Fromage10x 2 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed the video but you may want to look further into the plastic bag vs cotton bag situation

@DrabWallDevice 2 жыл бұрын

Team seas!!! Yessss!!!

@technopoptart 2 жыл бұрын

the plastic bag over cotton bag study was manipulated a fair bit to favour plastics and even under the most charitable light is not applicable in most countries due to the great variance in the kinds of plastic bags produced so it makes me uncomfortable when i see it getting brought up

@youreaphagatron 2 жыл бұрын

Wasn't expecting a death metal reference lol

@leomorris7573 2 жыл бұрын

really think you should've mentioned that the reason all that plastic comes from poor countries and the recycling scam are connected: the "recycled" plastic is being sent to the poor countries for them to deal with.

@RemotHuman 2 жыл бұрын

We will just throw all the plastic into the space or the sun like in Futurama

@Cainly 2 жыл бұрын

As someone who studies environmental engineering, and generally have a big interest in this kind of stuff, I always love when my favourite youtubers talk about environmental issues. At the same time, like you said it is so complicated and I often find that people jump to simple conclusions too often. Maybe especially when it comes to plastic, since it is so commonplace in our lives (cause it's an amazing material), at the same time it very visually links to environmental awareness... Anyway I am bothered by the "20000 reuse"-fact which seems very strange to me (at the same time very click-baity fun-facty and easy to spread). It bothered me because what do they mean by "environmental impact"? climate change? water use? acidification? animals killed somehow? You have to specify this to be able to say anything... Anyway I looked at the paper and as I understood it, the "environmental impact" that needs 20000 reuses is not climate change or any of the other, it's actually ozone depletion. The article looked at a lot of such impact categories, and ozone depletion was the category with the highest number of reuses needed. For global warming it is "just" 149 reuses (3800 reuses for water depletion, etc). To me, ozone depletion is not our biggest issue right now, nor are organic tote bags the main culprit of it, so I don't think the "20 000 reuses" is at all that interesting. When you have reused it 20 000 times you have already compensated for the climate impact like 130 times over. 149 or 3800 reuses would be more relevant, but maybe not as easy to spread...? Anyway just use the bag you've likely already have.

@frenchmayonnaise 2 жыл бұрын

💯💯💯

@littlenothing1068 2 жыл бұрын

11:25 F A C T S. Anyone who consciously litters is seriously on another level of f*cked up.

@Bendilin 2 жыл бұрын

Wait, when did you start using the classic Metal Gear Solid SFX? *thumbs up*

@BeautifulEarthJa 2 жыл бұрын

yea, germany exports its plastics to asia...which does not have the infrastructure to deal with these plastics for example

@penname8441 2 жыл бұрын

If yall can't donate, you can still make sure to reduce the amount of trash you create in the first place! The less trash we put into the ocean, the less we have to take out.

@quasi8180 Жыл бұрын

We need to find somewhere else to put the plastic instead of in our water and forests. Maybe we could make compost garbage cans that devompose the plastic without having to rely on garbage companies to take the garbage to land fills

@47riley47 2 жыл бұрын

Much love 🕉️♥️

@mr.honeycomb 2 жыл бұрын

I definitely agree with your statement about litterers. 😁

@quasi8180 Жыл бұрын

In my town i literally see sciggarret buds every freakin where its annoying as fuck. My uncle and his eife smoke and just toss theoir cigarret buds on the steps . in fact theres probably cigarett buds out there now

@pjmathison9787 2 жыл бұрын

Raising 30mil to take out 30 million pounds is virtually ineffective. The amount you’re taking out over three years. Is equal to about 15 minutes of plastic. That money can be used so much better.

@HexerPsy 2 жыл бұрын

Society requires the rise in production, because everything costs interest. A loan, a mortage - buy now and pay more later. If that system rises, it works. If it shrinks - the lending stops. It would be better to hold onto your money - or put it in things that hold that money better.

@darubra Жыл бұрын

"if you get rid of the plastic, you have to replace it with something else". kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q92Bi7dhpq_beZ8.html I wish people would be that practical about other topics. The energy crisis in Europe highlights the fact that they didn't understand that simple concept.

@Johndoe-by3tg 2 жыл бұрын

What about those fungi plastics?

@Johndoe-by3tg 2 жыл бұрын

Also ULINE is advertising under this video.

@carbine090909 2 жыл бұрын

@@Johndoe-by3tg dude. The algorithm. Everyone gets custom adverts. Mine is for CNY Heatsmart.

@clegs8356 2 жыл бұрын

hey, really like the video! but it's Team Seas that somewhat concerns/ bothers me: Rebecca Watson did a fantastic video on it which i HIGHLY encourage ppl to watch, but basically: • the Boyan Slat dude from Ocean Cleanup seems... misguided? at best? he was told by scientists that his original floating barrier idea to clean up trash in 2016 wouldn't work, but did it anyway in 2019, and now the broken barrier is part of the garbage floating in our oceans, not to MENTION the time, money, and resources that went into a project that experts said would fail • while the river diverters are actually pretty effective, they are literally already a thing (Mr. Trash Wheel) and having the same dude basically ripping it off and sticking his name on it seems uh... disingenuous? icky? like his motives just feel whack - but don't get me wrong, it's a good thing that some money is going into an actual effective solution here • Ocean Cleanup failed to research effects on wildlife on the first project anyway, but now their latest solution being Trawling LiteTM looks honestly awful... and it's just not productive because the amount of trash it might remove is nearly trivial, let alone the active damage to ecosystems, the emissions from the vehicles doing it, etc... - Watson contextualizes the Team Seas project by explaining that the 30,000,000 pounds of trash they aim to clean up will offset just 15 HOURS of global ocean trash production... ouch. anyway... it's great for people to care about the ocean, and try to educate themselves, and investigate what they can do in their own lives to make even a tiny contribution! but if the extent of that contribution is throwing a bit of money one time at a project that seems largely based in optics, then that's not the most helpful thing they could be doing. in fact, people with platforms as large as theirs might ACTUALLY have a shot at putting pressure on corporations to incite change on a systemic level (e.g. Coca Cola Stop Freaking Making Single-Use Plastics Challenge !!!) , but those corporations would much rather invest a buttload of money into something like Team Seas because they save more by not changing their horrible current practices.... soo yeah, unsurprisingly, Coca Cola is one of the biggest financial supporters of Ocean Cleanup. :/// so while i dont mean to be needlessly cynical, i just dont think Team Seas is the wonderful solution they're presenting themselves to be, but ultimately some good is being done, and hopefully people's interest in these issues can continue past this campaign or a single donation.

@T1J 2 жыл бұрын

Obviously everyone should do their research and make their own choices (and not get their opinions from what someone else told you to think) but it should be noted that, for one, this is a TeamSeas project, not a "The Ocean Cleanup" project. The Ocean Cleanup is only being used for cleanup of rivers, not oceans, and since most coean pollution comes from just a small amount of rivers, there is a potential of slowing down ocean pollution by focusing on rivers. Also, The Ocean Conservancy is in charge of how The Ocean Cleanup uses their split of the funds raised. (recall that Ocean Cleanup is not the only organization involved).MrBeast has a very specific goal of removing 30 million lbs of trash from the oceans, beaches, and rivers; and they believe that these two orgs were the best way for them to achieve that goal. If they could work such a massive campaign with other orgs, my understanding is that they would have used other orgs. But obviously its more complicated than just picking up trash, which is what this entire video you're commenting on is about. 30 million pounds of trash is a symbolic number that MrBeast chose to "one up" his last 20 million dollar campaign. No one is painting this as some kind of magic solution to plastic pollution. This is a campaign to spread awareness and get people involved, and this campaign will likely have lasting effects far beyond its end date, much like TeamTrees is still having. Picking up trash is easier than trying to change government policy or influence corporations, and is much more likely to result in a successful campaign, and successful campaigns lead to more interest, more hope, and more success down the road. Also 30 million pounds of trash is still 30 million pounds of trash. Are you suggesting that it is better to just leave the trash in the ocean? Volunteers clean up beaches, rivers, and oceans around the world every day. It's not like MrBeast came up with the idea. Do you think all that work should stop?

@clegs8356 2 жыл бұрын

@@T1J I do think there is absolutely a net amount of good happening here (which I said twice), but if that wasn't clear I'm sorry, I could have expressed that more emphatically! So I very obviously don't think it's "better to just leave the trash in the ocean", or that people picking up trash should "just stop" (hell, I'm that person with a found-trash pocket in their backpack and coat!). And I agree that yes, it's of course easier to pick up trash than to create systemic change, *especially* on an individual level. But that's part of my point: this is such a huge and wide-reaching project, drawing the attention of so many people, that I wonder if there wasn't an opportunity here to make progress in precisely those more difficult avenues! We will simply never get a handle on this problem without hard changes, and soon. And so, if there was a chance for this to work towards that, to put pressure on governments and corporations to reduce our trash production by using things like mass boycotting with such a massive audience, wouldn't that be incredibly worthwhile? Wouldn't that lead to ultimately surpassing the 30,000,000 pounds goal, eventually surpassing by it far, in the compounding reduction of waste entering the oceans over time? My hope for this campaign is like yours: to get people involved and aware and, more importantly, having a longer lasting impact. But my fear is that, while I get that the 30,000,000 is symbolic, the focus on it and how sensational the number sounds seems to direct attention towards trash cleanup alone and not to issues of systemic change. And corporations are more than happy to fund things like this and encourage people to invest time and energy anywhere that doesn't impact their profits - and can even score good publicity in the process, yippee! So again, I'm glad to see good of any size come from this campaign. And I really liked your video especially *because* it talks about how the issue is larger than picking up trash. But if you think back to that viral image of the turtle with a straw in the nose, while people's reactions COULD have been "there is too much waste in our oceans and it's harming ecosystems and wildlife" which might have added momentum for broader change, potentially tackling single use plastics and waste as a whole, legislation , etc., it INSTEAD became "there are too many *plastic straws* in our oceans and it's harming *sea turtles* " which led to the unproductive straw bans you mentioned. I just worry whether the resources involved in this campaign are doing the MOST good they could be doing, or if the goal is as far-sighted as it could be. That's all

@matesafranka6110 2 жыл бұрын

Ultimately, while there is obviously a lot that consumers can and should recycle, this topic almost always boils down to the same takeaway: BUY LESS STUFF.

@WordyGirl90 2 жыл бұрын

...or buy secondhand stuff? A significant proportion, possibly over 50%, of my clothing is pre-worn. Not all "stuff" is the same. Again, big companies fucked this up...why are we being pressed with the burden? That's their propaganda.

@matesafranka6110 2 жыл бұрын

@@WordyGirl90 Fair enough, that's pretty much what I meant, i.e. the only thing better than recyclable waste is less waste altogether.

@carbine090909 2 жыл бұрын

I gave $5 for team T1J

@KarolaTea 2 жыл бұрын

So long as rich people don't demand poor people also boycott Walmart, what's the issue with rich people boycotting Walmart? The production of plastic is full of environmental pollution from the very start, so we should definitely try to limit the amount of plastic we use. Never mind that being made from oil, eventually we'll run out of that resource. And plastic can't be recycled indefinitely, even if done properly. Over each cycle the material degrades slightly. Glass and metal can be recycled way more often before that happens. I also find it funny how people point out the energy consumption of cotton bags every time the talk is about single use plastic. The same is true for clothes, which arguably make up a way larger chunk of cotton pruduction, and often get used less than a cotton bag. (Some of the cotton bags I use are probably older than myself. They don't need to be fashionable after all.) Also, have y'all forgotten about backpacks? Or any other type of bag? Most people probably have *some* type of bag, right? You bring up a good point what with plastic being lighter than glass or metal and therefore needing less fuel to transport. I suppose if food (and other) production were more decentralised there's be shorter distances to transport things, and weight wouldn't be as much of an issue. Or we could do away with packaging completely, as it'd be only a short while from the field to the plate. (Not always possible in all places and for all products, I'm aware.) Plus obviously switching to renewable energy for transport. A lot of different factors playing a role, things are complicated, huh. The way I see it: Public transport needs to have accessible spaces for wheelchair or wheeled walker users as well as pushchairs. (And imo most trains need to have more of them than they have now.) But since these places take up more space than the standard seat not everybody can have one of those larger accessible places. But most people don't *need* them anyway, so that's no issue. So thanks to most people getting a smaller seat, and only those who need more space getting a larger space, the maximum number of people can fit on public transport. Same for plastic and other resources. Some things/people need plastic, but most things/people, in most circumstances don't. (Obvs can only use plastic free alternatives if they're available. Although you can usually re-use single use plastics a few times for a start.)

@SensiKnuckles89 2 жыл бұрын

Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. Romans 12:21 God bless you 😇 🙏

@llg193 2 жыл бұрын

@Bendilin 2 жыл бұрын

T1J knows so many people who boycott Walmart, they made a Wikipage for how many people he knows who boycotts Walmart. ;P

@HexerPsy 2 жыл бұрын

Your sollution is a poor one though for 3 reasons: 1. If you could filter out the trash making it to sea - that still leaves you with a pile of trash to do something with. A majority of that gets burned. 2. It doesnt solve the trash problem at sea. For this you would need a lab designed baterium and get it to consume plastic at a better rate than currently plastic decays. Design it to require salt water to live in to keep it in the sea for a while. It will bother some boats, which is a small price to pay. After a while it will evolve to consume plastics in fresh water, and ultimately outside of water as well. As it has no competition but itself based on feed, it will still consume plastic. The end result is the end of long shelf life products (since the plastic wrapper falls apart in months or years after contamination). Not all pastics are equal. You could ban types that are not bacteria edible (at the time). And keep the 'safe' plastics for a few products that really need it and can justify it. (What? Biosdegradable plastics already exist? No, this work would make it all biodegradable without changing fabrication techniques.) 3. It leaves out other sea pollution. Like coastal area flooding as a result of climate change - when laste cities are flooded, areas unusable - and toxins leaking into the ocean water. Could you even eat fish then? Doenst the world revolve around having good ports? There will be efforts to raise river banks and raise sea defenses. Ultimately catastrophic coastal flooding will be so costly to repair, that no efforts are made and the area is lost to sea. Plastics, metals, chemicals, trash - all very slowly turning the coastal areas in a waste land of pollution. Politics will be focussed on moving people inland, or build on water what they can. Nobody will want to pay for the sea waste we are currently building today on shore.

@user-cj4fu8qq9b 2 жыл бұрын

#teammagma

@xp8969 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine still falling for the Q psyop AFTER it was proven to be Deep State Controlled Opposition 😂

@user-hm4yi7um9d Жыл бұрын

Government shouldn't do anything. Ever.

@trentmurray7680 2 жыл бұрын

Engagement comment

@harrygarris6921 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah plastic wouldn't be nearly as much of an environmental problem if it was disposed of responsibly. But then you're relying on everyone's willingness to do so and care for the planet and time has shown a lot of people just aren't willing to do that

@krekcabnow2910 2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately I won’t be donating to team seas cause I truly do not trust Mr Beast

@Bendilin 2 жыл бұрын

This is your first video I've seen using the drawn avatar instead of a camera, and I have to say, it is a little jarring going from seeing a live human being in the video to this static drawing that sometimes changes expressions. I realize a person isn't always game to turn the camera on and record, but this drawn avatar treatment (as cool as the drawings are) isn't as personable and likely takes an extra step during the editing process. You do you, but I highly prefer your videos when you're talking to us and not your drawn avatar.