The Popstar Factory: Manufactured by Disney

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Patrick Cc:

Patrick Cc:

2 жыл бұрын

Disney has had a factory-esque workflow of making children turn into mega famous popstars. But did you know they missed an opportunity with Britney Spears? Justin Timberlake? We all know the golden era: Miley, Selena, Demi.. but then we didn't get any stars for a long time. Now Olivia Rodrigo is the biggest new artist of 2021.. did Disney invest back in their Popstar line?
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@PatrickCc
@PatrickCc 2 жыл бұрын
Watch the Nickelodeon Episode now kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qqyPd9qBr9awj6M.html
@IncredibleLynx
@IncredibleLynx 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great analysis for Disney and it really goes to show how domineering they were and arguably still are as a company. The Nickelodeon episode is even better. P. S. You should do an episode about Silento, the "watch me whip and nae nae" dude and exploring what happened to him.
@kittykittybangbang9367
@kittykittybangbang9367 2 жыл бұрын
@@IncredibleLynx didn't he go to jail?
@kittykittybangbang9367
@kittykittybangbang9367 2 жыл бұрын
Patrick you should consider doing a follow-up video where you discuss on why Disney Channel failed to make stars in the 2010s.
@inyrui
@inyrui 2 жыл бұрын
2 artists you forgot: Ally and Aj. Ally was in Phil of the Future and they had a short music career around when Hillary Duff did
@andyfro6907
@andyfro6907 2 жыл бұрын
Why you forgot Raven Symone and Bridgit Mendler
@linaaviles1971
@linaaviles1971 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot that Ryan Goslin was also with Britney, Justin and Christina. Even if he doesn’t have a music career. The casting directing struck gold.
@Uhohlisa
@Uhohlisa 2 жыл бұрын
Dead Man’s Bones
@Beetlejuicer
@Beetlejuicer 2 жыл бұрын
I was mad confused when he didn't point ryan out LMAO
@megamegapop12
@megamegapop12 2 жыл бұрын
@loveutill theendoftimes could have forgotten the h. That's a way it could be worse.
@linaaviles1971
@linaaviles1971 2 жыл бұрын
@loveutill theendoftimes ever heard of Auto Correct?
@simpleplanfan011
@simpleplanfan011 2 жыл бұрын
@loveutill theendoftimes sad I didn’t see this before the edit lol
@eee9266
@eee9266 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile at Nickelodeon: ignores the potential of a particular supporting actress who eventually becomes bigger than anyone Disney has produced
@fredriks5090
@fredriks5090 2 жыл бұрын
@Mia Broekmans Grandayy
@ht-si1lr
@ht-si1lr 2 жыл бұрын
@Mia Broekmans Giancarlo "Pete The Dolphin" Grande
@ruggedobserver4987
@ruggedobserver4987 2 жыл бұрын
@@BD-yp3ew Not really
@applchu
@applchu 2 жыл бұрын
Nick ignored adventure time which went on to basically revitalize cartoon network, and technically they also missed out on Drake's success if you count Degrassi as a Nick property
@lucianoalonso4389
@lucianoalonso4389 2 жыл бұрын
Did you seriously forget about Big Time Rush?
@benplsek5760
@benplsek5760 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention Ryan Gosling was also in that season with Justin, Britney, and Christina... INSANE
@AshlandHaven
@AshlandHaven 4 ай бұрын
So was J. C Chaze from Nsync
@catholicdieselmechanic
@catholicdieselmechanic 4 ай бұрын
He’s literally me
@sarahbeck7165
@sarahbeck7165 3 ай бұрын
And Keri Russell
@Mr.PDF_File
@Mr.PDF_File 2 ай бұрын
He's in the picture, don't know how he doesn't see him lol
@j8760
@j8760 Жыл бұрын
Hilary Duff has said that it was actually her idea and passion to pursue music, and Disney wasn't too crazy about it at first.
@lorepeeters
@lorepeeters 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Disney tried SO HARD after Miley, Demi and Selena but somehow never made it even though the next generation was talented af is still beyond me. Bridget Mendler, Zendaya, Ross Lynch, Olivia Holt, Dove Cameron, Sabrina Carpenter,…. they made good music even outside their shows but somehow never really broke out like the other girlies. The fact that Olivia did proves that it’s better for them to go outside of Disney from the get go when it comes to music and take creative control straight away, instead of being held down by the picture perfect Disney girl image and the Disney approved songs that go with that
@dia.96
@dia.96 2 жыл бұрын
In the case of Bridget and Zendaya they just decided to do other stuff. Zendaya didn't like the music industry and Bridget wanted to study (i think she even has a phd now). Bella Thorne also choose to not do the music thing, she also talked about how they wanted to market her as a Rachel McAdams type but she didn't want that either.
@fardiachowdhury9758
@fardiachowdhury9758 2 жыл бұрын
Abt zendaya, even though she didn't become a pop star, she's a respected and acclaimed actress and even won an emmy and is part of the mcu!
@lorepeeters
@lorepeeters 2 жыл бұрын
@@fardiachowdhury9758 absolutely! She’s doing incredible things with her acting! I was talking mostly about the actress turned mega pop star trope Disney used to do and how that didn’t exactly work with these people. Doesn’t take away they don’t have thriving careers in other fields ☺️
@kgaming5977
@kgaming5977 2 жыл бұрын
Ross Lynch would have been on bar with Harry Styles, Shawn and JB if he had left his family band early. Such a wasted potential.
@mxhsvn_b7866
@mxhsvn_b7866 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl bridget would have but she chose to not stay in the limelight
@LLusion
@LLusion 2 жыл бұрын
even though we were all aware of this, i’ve never realized how black and white their strategy was and the fact it was right in front of our faces lol. great vid brotha
@rosemulet
@rosemulet 2 жыл бұрын
Saaaame such a good video
@themeaningoflife1215
@themeaningoflife1215 2 жыл бұрын
i saw u on the mgk video
@alphaomega9993
@alphaomega9993 2 жыл бұрын
Omg LLusion I love youuuuu
@unofficialbeautyqueen6624
@unofficialbeautyqueen6624 2 жыл бұрын
@@themeaningoflife1215 which video was that
@themeaningoflife1215
@themeaningoflife1215 2 жыл бұрын
@@unofficialbeautyqueen6624 machine gun kelly video that was trending
@talkingwithkayla
@talkingwithkayla 2 жыл бұрын
I think it would’ve been good if you also mentioned Raven Symone. She set the standards for most Disney girls alongside Hilary Duff. Before HSM, you had The Cheetah Girls franchise which was wildly successful in the early to mid 2000s. Also China Ann Mcclain, Dove Cameron with Descendants, and Coco Jones
@chelsea_gr8
@chelsea_gr8 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised The Cheetah Girls wasn't mentioned at all. Miley literally toured with TCG to promote Hannah Montana.
@Diamond_Doodles
@Diamond_Doodles Жыл бұрын
it even effected the kids who grew up past that! I barely caught the end of the hype but as a kid i still new they were very prominent in Disney culture lol
@CB____
@CB____ 9 ай бұрын
Raven Symone was the Miley Cyrus for black girls of the 00s and then Zendaya and China Anne McLain picked up the pieces left behind when she left
@tanjuml.2713
@tanjuml.2713 5 ай бұрын
And Ross Lynch!
@murasakino101
@murasakino101 4 ай бұрын
I agree, I thought the cheetah girls would be mentioned too. I was born on 00 but I was still able to know them before they weren't as talked about. That's so Raven was my most watched Disney show before Hannah Montana and even when HM came out, I was still watching it lol
@withrihem7660
@withrihem7660 2 жыл бұрын
i believe Disney missed on Olivia just like they did with Brittany i remember when Olivia's show was airing Disney had the worst views ever literally nobody was watching the channel and i think they realized that and turned thier focus to Disney plus, which gave Olivia a chance to get a deal with a real company. also we can't forget the TikTok impact on her music sorry for any mistakes English isn't my first language
@laurel9095
@laurel9095 7 ай бұрын
But Olivia was also on the Disney show HSM the series. That’s basically where she started to get recognition
@Cla226
@Cla226 2 жыл бұрын
"You can role play as a teen for so long" unless you are Jason Earles, he is inmortal.
@unemilifleur
@unemilifleur 2 жыл бұрын
I’d say Thomas Brodie-Sangster. He has to wear a mustache to look a day over 15. And even then. The dude is 31.
@Jetthawkunlimited
@Jetthawkunlimited 2 жыл бұрын
@@unemilifleur He voiced Ferb in Phineas and Ferb
@r4ls3i7
@r4ls3i7 2 жыл бұрын
what about tony hawk
@theawantikamishra
@theawantikamishra 2 жыл бұрын
@@unemilifleur Is he the actor from Queen's Gambit
@unemilifleur
@unemilifleur 2 жыл бұрын
@@theawantikamishra yeah he’s in that, and also in The Labyrinth and in Game of Thrones
@lauraryan7460
@lauraryan7460 2 жыл бұрын
RIP to Ryan Gosling, he’s not dead, he’s just not a singer
@thanosmaster-abel559
@thanosmaster-abel559 2 жыл бұрын
At least he got a small part in La La Land lol, yes he played piano more but still sang a bit
@alikayyal9050
@alikayyal9050 2 жыл бұрын
@@thanosmaster-abel559 it has been a really long time since I have seen LaLa Land but as fair as I remember he did sing a lot in the movie. He is really good dancer too.
@sicksadw0rld
@sicksadw0rld 2 жыл бұрын
he is actually. he’s got a band called dead man’s bones.
@rufflesthegreat2264
@rufflesthegreat2264 2 жыл бұрын
You mean that guy from bladerunner and drive
@joshuasanders2123
@joshuasanders2123 2 жыл бұрын
And Shia Leboeuf from even Steven’s got into acting!
@pirate_bassist
@pirate_bassist 2 жыл бұрын
I would say an honorable mention is Ross Lynch from Austin and Ally. Honestly that show helped launch R5 (the band he was in,, 2 of their songs were on the 1st season soundtrack) and even though they broke up in 2018 and split from Hollywood Records due to creative and image differences, he's still making music as The Driver Era with his brother and he's still acting.
@brayanvillanueva7527
@brayanvillanueva7527 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that he didn't talk more about Shake it Up and Austin & Ally. Those two shows gave us hits after hits each season and most episodes were always entertaining. Ross Lynch and Laura Maurano were releasing good hits during and after the show was airing.
@morighani
@morighani 8 ай бұрын
because no one cared about them
@victoriab637
@victoriab637 2 жыл бұрын
Making kid-friendly pop music isn't really as "cool" or profitable as it once was. This conflicts with the Disney Channel's values as a company. They had to stop because it doesn't work anymore.
@PatrickCc
@PatrickCc 2 жыл бұрын
yeah thats fair. Social media has redefined what is "cool"
@0912sooli
@0912sooli 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jinaria101 BOOOMER ALERT
@jeremysworld3061
@jeremysworld3061 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jinaria101 balls 2 also. POC and LGBTQ people aren't inherently political you're just irrelevant go watch leave it to beaver or something
@parkchimmin7913
@parkchimmin7913 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jinaria101 Wanting diversity in media is political...?
@parkchimmin7913
@parkchimmin7913 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jinaria101 Fair. I understand the criticism. But at the same time, can’t it be possible to focus on both good character writing AND diversity? Why must it be one or the other? Minorities groups are so often underrepresented in media and even if they get representation, it’s often in form of a stereotype or they’re being villainous. By perpetuating these stereotypes in media, the same (often toxic) stereotypes will be applied to a group of people. REAL people.
@Cupofkorea
@Cupofkorea 2 жыл бұрын
I think Olivia owes a lot of her success to TikTok. You can reach millions of people worldwide in a matter of days. And all being forced to listen to the music of their fyp. Where I was listening to Disney music my brothers in their teens weren’t. But now a days with TikTok people of all ages are listening to the same song in multiple videos catered to their taste
@couturend
@couturend 2 жыл бұрын
what songs trend on tiktok can be manipulated. it´s not all organic as people think it is...there was a report about it
@livie2907
@livie2907 2 жыл бұрын
@@couturend and a lot of songs trend on tiktok after a long time from when it got released
@s_e_ss
@s_e_ss 2 жыл бұрын
@@livie2907 yeah but also is a strategy that big companies use is waiting till a song start doing well to pop them up on tiktok
@kittykittybangbang9367
@kittykittybangbang9367 2 жыл бұрын
@@couturend alfo media has a really great video about this
@couturend
@couturend 2 жыл бұрын
@@kittykittybangbang9367 thanks will check it out
@jollofricechicnyc5589
@jollofricechicnyc5589 Жыл бұрын
I cannot believe how manufactured my childhood was. I want a disney plus star era before I become an adult😭
@vh2802
@vh2802 Жыл бұрын
as a kid i always thought getting on a disney show was the golden ticket to stardom back in the early 2000s. i remember they always had the sweepstakes where you can actually meet the celebrities n go on a cruise or something.
@naylani7790
@naylani7790 2 жыл бұрын
Also, can we talk about how the Cheetah Girls were basically a catalyst for all of the other Disney channel original movie musicals?
@lalaland2107
@lalaland2107 2 жыл бұрын
Omg... Never thought of it like this. To me, it was High School Musical.
@naylani7790
@naylani7790 2 жыл бұрын
@@lalaland2107Before HSM premiered 3 years after, TCG broke records and made history for not only Disney but TV period….There’s an article online titled “How ‘Cheetah Girls’ Paved The Way For Disney Channel’s Future Musical Movies” and it breaks down everything🙂
@tomlawal7991
@tomlawal7991 2 жыл бұрын
@@lalaland2107 But you can argue HSM is the only ever show to go from Disney Channel Original Movie to an actual Disney Movie
@lalaland2107
@lalaland2107 2 жыл бұрын
@@naylani7790 damn!!! That's so interesting
@person8520
@person8520 2 жыл бұрын
@@lalaland2107 the cheetah girls were a actual singing group tho
@taraphipps3813
@taraphipps3813 2 жыл бұрын
Had Disney kept Britney, Christina, and Justin, their careers wouldn't have went as far as they had. You think Britney, you think of toxic, baby one more time, oops i did it again, etc. Justin had sexyback, what goes around comes around, rock your body, etc. Christina had a more "tame" discography, but she still had dirrty, lady marmalade, burlesque, etc. Those are the songs that shaped them as artists and boosted their careers. Disney would have NEVER given them the chance to release those songs. Disney could have made them stars, but they could not have made them the global icons they were and are today. I think of Demi, Miley, Selena, Ariana, etc. and I don't associate them with disney or nickelodeon anymore. In their case, their shows are what started and catapulted their careers, but I associate them with their more mature bodies of work they released later on, and think of Disney/Nick as being just a little rough bump they had to go through to get where they are today.
@hollyrose2418
@hollyrose2418 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@Morgan.Madsen
@Morgan.Madsen 2 жыл бұрын
Literal genius
@tr33main
@tr33main 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is why all those stars got big upon leaving disney, and those that stayed like Selena struggle even in to the current year.
@landonle3308
@landonle3308 2 жыл бұрын
@@tr33main Selena music career is actually pretty decent rn. Not as big as here Disney days but her music career has always been solid. I think she more focus on acting more so than music anyways
@ScoobyandShaggy5554
@ScoobyandShaggy5554 2 жыл бұрын
@@tr33main Selena is huge, more Hispanic followers but she’s doing very well. Selena did take a step back but she’s very successful and tame
@byerage
@byerage Жыл бұрын
I remember when Miley's Cant Be Tamed album came out. Loved the song and my grandmother hated it so much! I didnt even realize that album coincided with Miley's desire to distance herself from Disney, (i was literally 9 when all this happened lol) but it makes soooo much sense!! Good for her!!!
@blaketaylor9850
@blaketaylor9850 Жыл бұрын
I know this is more music focused but Ryan gosling was also on that cast with Justin , Brittany and Christina. That cast was pretty legendary.
@Swirlingflame
@Swirlingflame 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Jessie J, the British popstar, actually wrote "Party In the USA", and she says that song alone paid for her house >.< talk about a songwriter's ultimate daydream lol
@goldranger5182
@goldranger5182 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone knows that
@alamaaya2335
@alamaaya2335 2 жыл бұрын
yess
@audrablue515
@audrablue515 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I like Weird Al's parody of the song, Party in the CIA. It's hilarious and very clever.
@offspring9463
@offspring9463 Жыл бұрын
@@goldranger5182 cool but not everyone
@COVID--kf3tx
@COVID--kf3tx Жыл бұрын
@@goldranger5182 I didn't know lol
@TheBabouc
@TheBabouc 2 жыл бұрын
Although he's not a musician, Ryan Gosling was also in the Mickey Mouse Club, he's the one next to Britney and he also became mega successful, coincidence? I think not! I see you Mouse! I know what you are!
@OfficialVarsityDropout
@OfficialVarsityDropout 2 жыл бұрын
Hey had a band as a side project! I can’t remember their name off the top of my head but their music was really good!
@migscapo
@migscapo 2 жыл бұрын
👁
@BRMF
@BRMF 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialVarsityDropout dead man’s bones
@jamXD
@jamXD 2 жыл бұрын
I suspected that was him!
@OfficialVarsityDropout
@OfficialVarsityDropout 2 жыл бұрын
@@BRMF yes!
@KP_Gem
@KP_Gem Жыл бұрын
I'm obsessed with these videos. I'm on a Patrick Cc binge rn. Someone help me.. I can't stop
@_anamilano
@_anamilano Жыл бұрын
Dude I appreciate the work that goes into these videos, you’re doing so much it’s amazing. I never knew half of these things, it’s so insane to think about.
@golbinnom
@golbinnom 2 жыл бұрын
Living through the 2008-2010 disney era as a kid was crazy
@kevinrosario2729
@kevinrosario2729 Жыл бұрын
Disney Channel peaked during this era
@trinity9020
@trinity9020 Жыл бұрын
frrr
@itsaperfectionist4158
@itsaperfectionist4158 Жыл бұрын
I remember watching the debut of several of the shows and movies mentioned. It makes me feel so old now. It didn't feel like it had all happened almost 15 years ago
@theofficialVEVOformu
@theofficialVEVOformu Жыл бұрын
2002 -2010 actually that was Disney’s golden years
@moonbeeps
@moonbeeps Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't say crazy.
@sarahroddey2937
@sarahroddey2937 2 жыл бұрын
Calling it a factory is so painfully accurate because in Demi Lovato's newest documentary they were saying that they literally filmed the camp rock movie and then immediately went on your to promote it, got home and started recording an album, then went on tour for that album, got home and immediately started filming Sonny the TV show, then went on tour for that album, etc.
@SamanthaTwist
@SamanthaTwist Жыл бұрын
The Hannah/Selena/Demi/Jonas was SUCH A GOOD ERA
@Radiquirl_Zest
@Radiquirl_Zest Жыл бұрын
Incredible case study! I love your work, it's a fascinating watch to have the stories of nostalgic childhood icons unpacked, and so well; I feel enlightened, and thoroughly entertained!
@vanessagutierrez3432
@vanessagutierrez3432 2 жыл бұрын
Zendaya has spoken out about not pursuing a music career due to a bad contract. She has vocals but chooses not to go down that path. She encourages young actors & artist to read their contract, study & understand it.
@nella8555
@nella8555 Жыл бұрын
She never had a good voice tho
@chizmok5093
@chizmok5093 Жыл бұрын
@@nella8555 she actually has a nice tone and a decent range which is adequate popstar material
@ms.wilson6439
@ms.wilson6439 Жыл бұрын
@@nella8555 it was okay.
@fiveotree_
@fiveotree_ Жыл бұрын
I’m gonna, I’m g-g-g-onna swag it out
@gamepool8517
@gamepool8517 Жыл бұрын
@@nella8555 have you listened to something new?????no you are just a hater, period!🤣
@jdmga1
@jdmga1 2 жыл бұрын
Radio Disney was huge in keeping the songs in kid's heads. They didn't need traditional means of promotion for their own content. Wild stuff.
@AB-sm1qf
@AB-sm1qf 2 жыл бұрын
People underestimate Radio Disney. That was escape to listen to while doing homework or chores. I didn’t know anyone my age at the time that wasn’t listening to it, regardless of what they looked like. A lot of people think it was just rich suburban white kids listening when at the time, they honestly targeted every audience. So we all ended up talking and becoming friends with one another in a way that wasn’t common before. I think it’s one reason why so many of us loved Disney growing up. The only time Disney became less interesting was when it became mostly very white after 2010 to the point that it wasn’t as fun to look at anymore.
@tr33main
@tr33main 2 жыл бұрын
I remember Radio Disney would also constantly play short versions of the songs during ad breaks which kept it in kid's heads even more.
@toastEDmrshmello09
@toastEDmrshmello09 2 жыл бұрын
Radio Disney we’re all ears! C’mon everybody do the hamster dance! Lol
@kittykittybangbang9367
@kittykittybangbang9367 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of Radio Disney, remember when Fall Out Boy was on the Radio Disney Music Awards? And when they were in Big Hero 6? And they got P!ATD for Frozen 2? Next thing you know Disney probably will get MCR or Paramore for their next animated movie.
@teti9087
@teti9087 2 жыл бұрын
Omg I totally forgot Radio Disney was a thing.. unlocked memories I forgot existed
@bloodrosereaper2099
@bloodrosereaper2099 7 ай бұрын
I still remember my sisters Lizzie Mcquire themed makeup. I don't have many memories of my old home in Rhode Island, but that's one that sticks out the most. I remember sneaking into her room for my older bro and she had this N'Sync sliding figurine (think a funko pop and rubixs cube combo thing with a head, torso and leg piece all connecting on a swiveling thing) and the smell of the makeup. I remember I snuck in, stole this CD player she had, tripped and spilled all of this nail polish and glitter EVERYWHERE. God, she was so pissed. Now just imagine a like... four or five year old, covered in glitter, telling his mom and older sis that 'nope. I didn't go into her room'
@lenchenboni
@lenchenboni Жыл бұрын
I remember that one of the former stars said, that the company checked how they act in public, what they say in the interviews, what to wear,ect... It shows,that at Disney there is no space left for coincidences .... I can imagine and understand why Demi, Miley and others wanted to leave the factory and are still mad and traumatized by now
@tyrelbass
@tyrelbass 2 жыл бұрын
Disney was so good at making their stars marketable and the face of their company. Most of them just couldn’t handle that much fame at a young age.
@YenellyT
@YenellyT 2 жыл бұрын
They were literally so overworked and working with people that were not so safe to have around children, Demi was literally raped by someone who worked at Disney as a child which is so sad.I’m sure Disney was just worried about money not about their well being which is why so many of them lashed out to leave
@tyrelbass
@tyrelbass 2 жыл бұрын
@@YenellyT yea Demi was in an unfortunate situation, but I wouldn’t say they were overworked, majority of actors from kids shows say their time on set was fun and it didn’t even feel like work. Even skye Jackson in a recent video she made that everyone always had a great time and and she would often hang out with the cast of other shows cause they filmed in the same lot , and everyone would get together and play basketball or something when they weren’t shooting. Now maybe Selena , Miley and Demi probably had a Bigger load on their shoulders because they were pushed as the role models, were the leads of their own shows and they had to keep up with they’re music careers. Even tho they were young , without all that hard work they probably wouldn’t have been as successful as they became and till this day they still a lot more relevant compared to other Disney stars. And others that had bad experiences were put into the industry by their parents and didn’t even really have the passion to be in the entertainment business to begin with like jennet Mccurty. The media doesn’t help either when they make minor things that most teens do seem like a bigger deal just because they play a innocent character on tv, that adds to the pressure for some people.
@person8520
@person8520 2 жыл бұрын
@@YenellyT that’s not Disney’s fault she was raped tf without Disney they would be nothing period Disney made them dance lessons vocal lessons period
@person8520
@person8520 2 жыл бұрын
@@YenellyT also just like Hillary duff they could have left at any time
@pretty_okaka
@pretty_okaka 2 жыл бұрын
@@person8520Uh it is definitely Disney's fault . They should have put measures in place to protect their actors, especially if most of them happen to be kids and teens. It's not a coincidence that most of their actors later on come out with stories of abuse of some sort. But does Disney learn a lesson? NO!
@nickit7655
@nickit7655 2 жыл бұрын
I think Disney has realized that adolescents just don’t watch “kid” shows like they used to. I watched Disney channel well into my teens, but I don’t think teens these days would really watch those kind of shows, or watch much TV at all. They’re busier watching TikTok and other stuff on social media. You get a show now like High School Musical the Series which yes, has a trash name, but it’s clearly written as something more for grown fans of HSM than for actual teens.
@allie6324
@allie6324 2 жыл бұрын
i think the names fun to say, i like it plus free promo if everyones talking about how hard it is to say 😭
@nevehughes6111
@nevehughes6111 2 жыл бұрын
As a teen currently, I can say that in general we watch A LOT of tv, but we basically binge whatever we're watching and it's all stuff from streaming services. Like, compared to when I was a kid and actually watched kid shows on tv, now I just binge multiply shows at once. Also, the popular "teen" shows now are all super dark compared to old teen shows, like, when I think of teen shows now I think of Netflix or CW. But also you're right in the fact that there are a lot of times we just watch youtube or tiktok. I can only speak for people around me and myself so obvs it does differ a bit depending who you talk to and where you go, but this is my insight
@nickit7655
@nickit7655 2 жыл бұрын
@@nevehughes6111 Right, I just can't imagine most teens these days binging sitcoms on Disney Plus. When I was a teen (10-12 years ago) it wasn't uncommon for people my age to be watching Glee, iCarly, and Hannah Montana all in the same week.
@nevehughes6111
@nevehughes6111 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickit7655 I think you'd be surprised. I know plenty of people with Disney+ who binge show on it (including hsmtmts and glee) as well as cartoons, maybe not on Disney but they are targeted towards kids. Maybe not the same shows as 10 years ago, but mostly because there are just other shows now. Also for people like me who are late teens, we still kinda grew up on hsm and some of those 2000s shows. I know a lot of people who watch more kid targeted shows as well as adult targeted shows, I think it's just more a case of we binge TV a lot and there's so much out there available that we aren't limited to channels
@StevenTyler94
@StevenTyler94 2 жыл бұрын
The first season of that show was geared toward fans of the movie. The second season felt way more kid-ish and was a huge step down.
@YoongisRapin
@YoongisRapin 2 жыл бұрын
The way you only mentioned the disney actors/actresses turned musicians that struck gold in that 2006-2008 time frame but there were many other attempts like Aly & AJ (love their music actually)
@donovanogilvy5364
@donovanogilvy5364 10 ай бұрын
Seeing the marketing mastermind behind my childhood is weird
@justdance4750
@justdance4750 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh Zendaya could’ve gotten just as big, just look at her single ‘Replay.’ But she knew to distance herself from Disney, and pursued her own thing… and today she’s making movies with Marvel, etc., she’s pretty damn well-off. And at no loss of mental health and exploitation many female stars faced under large corporations. Her team knew damn well what they were doing. I’m biased for sure, but all those stars (female ones specifically) had some sort of mental break trying to break free of their roles from Disney…
@lilxtasy4936
@lilxtasy4936 2 жыл бұрын
look at little mj junior, she doesnt cry
@sadi215
@sadi215 2 жыл бұрын
Marvel is owned by Disney though
@shaina8947
@shaina8947 2 жыл бұрын
@@sadi215 omg she lowkey went full circle then lol..
@Arnostic
@Arnostic 2 жыл бұрын
She still works for Disney and never left lmao
@omarxperez
@omarxperez 2 жыл бұрын
@@shaina8947 technically yeah but she’s more respected now because of marvel and other movies and shit and at least marvel will let you say things that mature audiences like
@joses.m.43
@joses.m.43 2 жыл бұрын
Damn... you completly ignored Raven Symone and The Cheetah Girls. Cheetah Girls, even without Raven, went to have an album outside the movie franchise and three world tours
@phylliskimani6893
@phylliskimani6893 2 жыл бұрын
right!!
@angelg9981
@angelg9981 2 жыл бұрын
Cheetah licious Xmas still my jam
@ThaCanvasDon
@ThaCanvasDon 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he didn’t count her because Raven was already successful as an actress before Disney. Her come up was different but I do agree he shoulda mentioned the cheetah girls because the formula was still similar
@Jenny-tm3cm
@Jenny-tm3cm 2 жыл бұрын
Cheetah girls omg that takes me back. I love those songs
@sorafanchick
@sorafanchick 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThaCanvasDon Jonas Brothers was successful before Disney as well. That's actually why they got their own show.
@TheDCism93
@TheDCism93 Жыл бұрын
The rise of social media is probably the main reason why the Disney machine came to a halt in 2012. You suddenly didn't need the support of a record label or television network to become successful, you just needed good content that went viral. This type of success pipeline continues today with TikTok, which I argue is almost a spiritual successor to everything that proceeded it.
@09empyre
@09empyre Жыл бұрын
My guy i love the authenticity so much, I’ve been bingeing these videos.
@alxisl
@alxisl 2 жыл бұрын
Olivia said herself: She told Disney she didnt want to have her record contract with them as she wanted to express herself however she wanted
@talksweet5397
@talksweet5397 2 жыл бұрын
I'm convinced that in order for her to be successful to gen z kids, Disney actually asked her and is going to ask its new stars to pretend they aren't releasing music under Disney and have their own "creative control". This is the exact narrative that would make her seem edgy and not just some kid in the Disney machine. So you are expressing exactly what Disney wants you to express and makes it more likely for everyone to listen to her. I mean, isn't it odd that everyone knows about her little "rebellious" attitude about signing under a Disney contract? Seems like its being overly marketed as part of her image.
@seb______
@seb______ 2 жыл бұрын
@@talksweet5397 very interesting take. And also coincidentally, hayley williams helped worked on a couple songs I think with Olivia Rodrigo and one of those songs sound kinda like a Paramore song. Which Paramore is more known as like this pop rock punk band
@PrincessNana08
@PrincessNana08 2 жыл бұрын
@@talksweet5397 Kinda far fetched in my opinion. That sounds like some conspiracy theory lmao first of all it isn't that weird to market her creative control over her songs(and its not that hard to believe that she DOES have creative control when she's been posting her songs on her social media before hsmts was even a thing). Plus she's signed under greffen records.
@PrincessNana08
@PrincessNana08 2 жыл бұрын
@@seb______ It sounds alike because they use the same chord progression. The same chord progression that hundred other songs also use.
@rafaelalbiter6923
@rafaelalbiter6923 2 жыл бұрын
@@PrincessNana08 yes, for example boulevard of broken dreams- Green day and We are never ever ever getting back together- Taylor swift
@huhuhuhurricanestreamwow7937
@huhuhuhurricanestreamwow7937 2 жыл бұрын
Ashley tisdale was SOOOO underrated. she deserved better. headstrong was such an iconic album. warner was the one who supported ashley not hollywood. hollywood records adopted vanessa.
@imjoiry
@imjoiry 2 жыл бұрын
facts.
@andreasmeelie1889
@andreasmeelie1889 2 жыл бұрын
I loved Ashley’s music and yes the album Headstrong so underrated! Love that album! My favorite is Suddenly.😇😍
@extrashotofespresso_
@extrashotofespresso_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@andreasmeelie1889 suddenly is a beautiful song. It used to make me cry for some reason lol. I also really loved he said she said.
@goldranger5182
@goldranger5182 2 жыл бұрын
She is too Britney thats why she dindnt make it
@Vkpz
@Vkpz 2 жыл бұрын
he said she said was a BOP.
@Ban4nin
@Ban4nin Жыл бұрын
Actualy, here in Argentina there is a singer called tini Stoessel that raised her popularity for being in a Disney show called "Violetta". Her career as an actress started in a kids show called "patito feo". She is now a famous pop singer
@EverestBlooms-1268
@EverestBlooms-1268 Жыл бұрын
@PatrickCc, I know I’m late to this video. But your kinda blowin my mind rn. It’s like I’m watching my childhood in one compact video. I remember exactly when and where I watched THESE MASTERPIECES DISNEY MADE.
@mari.art1999
@mari.art1999 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so so glad I grew up with this disney era, the hsm-miley-selena-demi-jb era. It was amazing. I remember each one of these releases (except for the lizzie mcguire one, I was too young at the time). I remember when hm aired, when all the hsm movies aired, I remember voting for miley to make an appearance in hsm2, I have all the debut albums of these artists including hillary duff's 😍😍
@Honey-rp6zx
@Honey-rp6zx 2 жыл бұрын
The last clear memory I have of my now dead aunt was us watching the high school musical 2 premier. She made popcorn and we sat and watched it. We loved it, I didn’t know she would die two weeks later. It really was such a nostalgic and fun time. We will never have anything like that again. Especially with the rise of Disney plus.
@rachelmarion7161
@rachelmarion7161 2 жыл бұрын
@@Honey-rp6zx so sorry for your loss
@itskitty808
@itskitty808 2 жыл бұрын
Girl, I remember Lizzie McGuire, as I was part of that era! Oh, it was such a wonderful time! I miss that era.
@ohblobby
@ohblobby 2 жыл бұрын
i wish i could've experienced this. alas i was too young.
@anonymousanonymous6045
@anonymousanonymous6045 2 жыл бұрын
Right I was born in 1999 and I experienced all of that but I do remember Lizzie McGuire because my sister was born in 94 and was a huge Hilary Stan. My son was born in 2019 and I sometimes think about how he would have never experienced any of what I experienced as a child.
@petitnicollas
@petitnicollas 2 жыл бұрын
Zendaya seems to be one of the most talented young artist that worked at Disney, even though she didn't follow the same path as the others.
@kittykittybangbang9367
@kittykittybangbang9367 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah she seems to have a better career in acting than in music
@prodjoshkta
@prodjoshkta 2 жыл бұрын
She was the best actress out of all of them.
@snowflakes7344
@snowflakes7344 2 жыл бұрын
She tried her hand at music for a while, but realized she liked acting better
@lilxtasy4936
@lilxtasy4936 2 жыл бұрын
look at little mj junior, gonna cry?
@rafifariq8527
@rafifariq8527 2 жыл бұрын
@@lilxtasy4936 Stings doesnt it??
@miaostrovska9518
@miaostrovska9518 2 жыл бұрын
Pat you’re the first person that I subscribed to in yearsssss!! Love your knowledge and research, you’re killing it, keep going I am so proud 🔥🔥🔥
@notsocooldude7720
@notsocooldude7720 8 ай бұрын
A lotta nostalgia in this one. Damn. I had forgotten about so many of those shows and movies
@katnile5472
@katnile5472 2 жыл бұрын
Aly & AJ? Idk how their album did, but potential Breakup Song was everywhere in the early 2000s. That song is still good today!
@RR-js4nl
@RR-js4nl 2 жыл бұрын
Aly & AJ aren’t famous outside the US and outside of the 2000s. All the others in this video are famous world wide still up to this day.
@felipe-zm8yd
@felipe-zm8yd 2 жыл бұрын
theyre making cool indie poo nowadays, i love their stuff
@jetfan925
@jetfan925 2 жыл бұрын
*late 2000s
@PatrickCc
@PatrickCc 2 жыл бұрын
honorable mention but not nearly on the same level
@jennilopez5682
@jennilopez5682 2 жыл бұрын
@@RR-js4nl yep, also the cheetah girls
@stuffmaniacs
@stuffmaniacs 2 жыл бұрын
Olivia's fame from disney is reminiscent of Ariana Grande's fame from nickelodeon in the sense that both artists were noticed and signed by other labels despite their talents being showcased on their original shows. The only difference is that Olivia played a major role in HSMTMTS while Ariana didn't get a single solo on Victorious.
@annaafave
@annaafave Жыл бұрын
Dude your voice has such a calming effect on me. Thank you
@smileyforus
@smileyforus 9 ай бұрын
I bet some kids/teenagers must be jealous they couldn't live what we had from 2001 to 2010. Like imagine watching Lizzie McGuire, Hannah Montana, HSM, Wizards of Waverly Places, Camp Rock, Jonas, Sunny With a Chance, and enjoying their music. I mean, if you like pop music that was the best time to be a kid/teen. They kinda raised me. I know everything was made up by Disney but i don't care much, like, they got what they wanted from me. The only thing that bothers me is how they treated their stars. They exploited them, they took every last drop of juice they could from them, until they managed to leave. And almost all of them had part of their lives ruined. That's the only thing I regret, enjoying everything while they suffered.
@Heyitsann
@Heyitsann 2 жыл бұрын
The impact of Alex on Wizard of Waverly Place was enormous, she literally shaped the Gen Z
@Naahi95
@Naahi95 2 жыл бұрын
She's iconic, probably the best disney protagonist imo
@panda22518
@panda22518 2 жыл бұрын
Um no
@fakename8713
@fakename8713 2 жыл бұрын
@@panda22518 um yes
@panda22518
@panda22518 2 жыл бұрын
@@fakename8713 Raven: am I a joke to you??
@ixzhel3699
@ixzhel3699 2 жыл бұрын
12 y/o me literally took her personality
@greyoji
@greyoji 2 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised you didn’t mention Raven, That’s so Raven broke many records and was bigger than Hannah Montana at one point and the Cheetahs girls paved the way for a a lot Disney musicals
@goldenovaries
@goldenovaries 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@the.artist72263
@the.artist72263 2 жыл бұрын
Right! Raven was THE original Disney Channel it girl. The Miley blueprint came from Raven
@JaneDoe-ob9dr
@JaneDoe-ob9dr 2 жыл бұрын
It might be because of how nasty she turned out. She literally complained about being over sexualized since she was on the Cosby's as a kid, and is now repeating the process as an adult on her new show.
@twoicecreams.
@twoicecreams. 2 жыл бұрын
THIS!!
@arcyarcanine
@arcyarcanine 2 жыл бұрын
@@the.artist72263 Hilary Duff was that.
@snowy6237
@snowy6237 Жыл бұрын
the mid to late 2000s was a great time for disney channel, I'm glad I was there for it
@eatitpls
@eatitpls 9 ай бұрын
watching this, they kept our lil selves on our toes. as youre listing each project, i remember them dropping and how i felt as a kid when they were. disney was onto something 😂
@Jmv2.0
@Jmv2.0 2 жыл бұрын
Selena was definitely the last stronghold when it came to shows and music for Disney. Wizards finale was one of the most watched and then her Stars Dance album did pretty well. Obviously Demi was super successful with Disney but her show ended by 2010 and she kinda fell down after she left Hollywood records- I feel like Selena had the most smooth transition out of the three cause she was the most followed person on Instagram for a very long time (until like 2019 but she’s still top 5) and she didn’t have an overly sexualized era or a scandalous era like both miley and Demi had .
@Ashley-km4qi
@Ashley-km4qi 2 жыл бұрын
Selena’s music was not the stronghold. If anything it’s Miley by a landslide. Don’t you remember how big Hannah Montana was? All her tours sold out quickly and her albums were number 1 in the country for a while. And Selena is heavily manufactured with her music, she doesn’t write any of it and all her songs cater to the pop scene when Miley and Demi have taken a different route.
@Naahi95
@Naahi95 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ashley-km4qi I think you miss the part when she said "the *last* stronghold", not "the".
@Ashley-km4qi
@Ashley-km4qi 2 жыл бұрын
@@Naahi95 she still wasn’t the stronghold
@Cfts22
@Cfts22 2 жыл бұрын
Demi “fell out” by 2010 because they went to rehab that same year. It basically stopped the trajectory their career with Disney was going in. Fortunately they maintained their fame with their music when they came back and had more creative control over their music
@chayesha2812
@chayesha2812 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ashley-km4qi idk if u can actually properly read but she said "THE LAST STRONGHOLD"
@hellformichelle
@hellformichelle 2 жыл бұрын
Another interesting fact to look at is just the larger awareness of how a lot of labels mistreat and exploit new talent. Taylor Swift, for example, is very vocal about artists' rights to their work. That self-advocacy didn't exist in the 2000s/early 2010s, so it was much easier for Disney to milk their stars. Olivia Rodrigo owns her masters and insisted on it because she saw how others were screwed over, and I'm sure the mouse would've never given her that
@anyssamoya1559
@anyssamoya1559 2 жыл бұрын
That's a really good point. I think with the rise of social media, a more "progressive" media, and even youtube video essays like this one have all contributed to this sort of demystification of the entertainment industry. I mean, Britney Spears has been all over the news recently, not because of new music, but because of a legal case that is a clear example of how these huge popstars can be exploited and controlled. As you said, aritsts have more self-advocacy than before, and even fans are more aware and sympathetic to the artists they support. I did not know Olivia owned her masters, that's great! I know at one point The Weeknd had exactly that advice to new artists starting out: own your work.
@SR-zv5ue
@SR-zv5ue 2 жыл бұрын
Taylor Swift is not the first artist to talk about and being exploited for music. There were many artists that were vocal and huge who talked about being explolited from their labels that were bigger names than her. Prince, TLC, Toni Braxton, Michael Jackson, Mariah Carey. Taylor really didn't do anything special in terms of getting artists progressive record deals. It's just about having a good lawyer at the end of the day and how bankable you are as an artist.
@mayevie
@mayevie 2 жыл бұрын
what does "owns her masters" mean? my mind is thinking a masters degree but she's 18 so i doubt that's it 😅
@SR-zv5ue
@SR-zv5ue 2 жыл бұрын
Additionally Taylor made a lot of money on her music unlike the artists listed above.
@abrielle13
@abrielle13 2 жыл бұрын
@@SR-zv5ue They never said she was the first. She's just helped put a spotlight on it because she has a huge platform.
@cynthiapadilla3881
@cynthiapadilla3881 2 жыл бұрын
I lived through this. I was the target audience and man they got me. I was obsessed especially with Miley and Selena. And they crashed just as I grew up and lost interest lol. Crazy to have lived it.
@hannahisrael7577
@hannahisrael7577 4 ай бұрын
I been drinking loads of water and iv only just realised that its because iv started seeing your videos... never used to really drink that much water before.... now it seems im addicted, thanks man
@candygirl2509
@candygirl2509 2 жыл бұрын
Being a kid during that crazy Hannah Montana, High School Musical, Jonas Brothers period was the BEST! Such great memories
@Launchpad05
@Launchpad05 2 жыл бұрын
Not if you're an animation fan like I was.
@RIPmichael22
@RIPmichael22 Жыл бұрын
It was the best hey girl!
@irvplotnik89
@irvplotnik89 Жыл бұрын
@@Launchpad05 the whole CN Real thing….
@clarksmith8830
@clarksmith8830 Жыл бұрын
2009 was like the biggest year of the Disney channel. The brand recognition was off the charts. It kind of crashed in 2011 when The Jonas Brothers, Miley, and Demi were no longer there losing like 3 major groups at once. It probably wasn't a good idea for them to cancel jonas after the 2nd season even with low ratings.
@amylee8969
@amylee8969 Жыл бұрын
@Jackie Stevens I was a preteen during the 2002-2004 era when Disney Channel was called “Zoog”. Back then it features shows and movies that were kid-friendly and portrayed realistic teens/tweens doing regular teen stuff.
@lordjreen
@lordjreen 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like another reason everything seemed to end in the early 2010s is because my generation (late 90s - early 00s kids) were starting to grow out of our own Disney era. I was heading into middle school by then and had stopped watching Disney and started watching shows targeted more towards older teens and even young adult shows. But yes, the growth of social media and popularity of smartphones definitely contributed a lot, too.
@elizrebezilmadommdo1662
@elizrebezilmadommdo1662 Жыл бұрын
The same happened to me. I started to find myself not nearly as interested in the newer Disney shows once I was in 6th grade. Occasionally, I'd watch an episode of a show that I had already started watching and enjoying when I was younger, like Good Luck Charlie or Wizards of Waverly Place, but I tried to get into watching shows like Ant Farm, Jessie, and Shake It Up, but I just couldn't enjoy them. It's not that the shows are bad, but I was officially coming to terms with the fact that I was now "old".
@gabrielzzz12345
@gabrielzzz12345 Жыл бұрын
True
@marlene2805
@marlene2805 Жыл бұрын
@@elizrebezilmadommdo1662 yes exactly! I would still watch ant farm, jessie, GLC, and other shows released during that time and would enjoy them for the most part, but they weren't as good IMO compared to HM and wizards. So once THOSE shows ended I really stoped watching
@anafolie471
@anafolie471 Жыл бұрын
also it should be mentioned that in that gap, while Disney US wasn't doing anything, Disney LATAM was constantly trying to put artists out. Disney LATAM had peter punk which was basically the story of Peter trying to be big with his band, then there was Violetta which basically created one of Argentina's currently biggest singers, Brazil had que talento that was a series to promote College 11 that was a duo signed to Disney. And it also had Soy Luna which was kinda like violetta
@brayanvillanueva7527
@brayanvillanueva7527 Жыл бұрын
I was born in 2001 and in 2013 everyone i knew was in their whole teen beach movie phase at 12 and 13 years old.
@khiosa
@khiosa Жыл бұрын
I swear you the only person that could cover drill and disney and not seem strange bro.
@nfbconnect
@nfbconnect Жыл бұрын
I’m really impressed how all these Disney stars made it through the machine. Miley, Selena et Al have really found themselves and are still serving.
@tspopstar512
@tspopstar512 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t be the only one who thinks Olivia rodrigo overnight success came from a rich business man in a suit who said “she’s gonna happen” and then pressed a button and she was everywhere
@kait7404
@kait7404 2 жыл бұрын
Nah but definitely happening with these tiktokers
@victoriab637
@victoriab637 2 жыл бұрын
that's an overly simplified way to say that she's an industry plant, but a lot of people would agree.
@hj6431
@hj6431 2 жыл бұрын
Tiktok maan
@nilssjoberg1075
@nilssjoberg1075 2 жыл бұрын
Taylor's backing her help a little in some ways, since medias left and right putting a spotlight on her being a taylor swift fan and one of the biggest fandom of course she's a swiftie - so majority of swifties hyping her up on social media really boost her name and music.
@pretendfriend1417
@pretendfriend1417 2 жыл бұрын
Course. Lol.
@uhuhuh1966
@uhuhuh1966 2 жыл бұрын
I really don’t understand how they missed out on Christina when Mulan’s “Reflection” was what jumpstarted her music career.
@hotepx2935
@hotepx2935 2 жыл бұрын
That’s because she was already signed to RCA Records, that mulan song she recorded was just a side gig.
@qiqisongs
@qiqisongs 2 жыл бұрын
They missed out on Christina when she was like 13-14. She was already 16-17 years old when she recorded Reflection.
@uhuhuh1966
@uhuhuh1966 2 жыл бұрын
@@hotepx2935 not true, “After recording the song ‘Reflection’ for the Disney movie Mulan (1998), Aguilera signed a recording deal and released a self-titled debut album of dance-oriented pop music in 1999.” She got signed BECAUSE of Reflection
@uhuhuh1966
@uhuhuh1966 2 жыл бұрын
@@qiqisongs but she didn’t sign with RCA until after she made reflection, Disney should’ve heard her talent on that and signed her themselves instead of letting her leave.
@uhuhuh1966
@uhuhuh1966 2 жыл бұрын
@Kirsten A she wouldn’t even have had the opportunity to record Genie without Reflection
@OPINIONATEDPHIRI
@OPINIONATEDPHIRI 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Patrick is enjoying this, the laugh and all in between narrations is so good energy
@cscs88
@cscs88 7 ай бұрын
Just found your channel and love the deep dives.even if a bit dark. Great work, H2O cheers!
@cash_eye
@cash_eye 2 жыл бұрын
Wizards of Waverly Place is my absolute favorite Disney show ever
@musiclover_kb4913
@musiclover_kb4913 2 жыл бұрын
It's one of the best for sure
@kittykittybangbang9367
@kittykittybangbang9367 2 жыл бұрын
for me it's phineas and ferb and gravity falls
@StevenTyler94
@StevenTyler94 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@dxk65
@dxk65 2 жыл бұрын
I think what sets Olivia apart though is she's thriving in the modern age of the internet. Like once she reaches a certain point (and may already be there), she won't need Disney, they'll need her.
@DR-fc1ey
@DR-fc1ey 2 жыл бұрын
at this point shes cut all ties with disney, minus her finishing the last parts of her show and thats it. after that she has 0 ties to disney
@omarxperez
@omarxperez 2 жыл бұрын
@@DR-fc1ey yeah only her acting career is with disney which many people have already forgotten about so she just needs to finish the shows contract and she’s free from the mouse
@killerqueen9120
@killerqueen9120 2 жыл бұрын
Oh trust me, Disney doesn’t need anyone
@katgreer6113
@katgreer6113 2 жыл бұрын
@@killerqueen9120 Exactly. They always find new ways to make money.
@rlj5385
@rlj5385 2 жыл бұрын
@Kirsten A like every other big artist
@lorihoop3831
@lorihoop3831 Жыл бұрын
Disney in those days reminds me of Hollywood's Golden age, where they abused the stars in every way to get more and more out of the talent (product) as long as they can before the person either dies, quits Hollywood forever in disgust or has a breakdown. It's a sick industry
@meidson12
@meidson12 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe how good your videos are
@angelmae989
@angelmae989 2 жыл бұрын
I still can't believe this was truly my entire childhood. All their careers, I was watching before my eyes and in a way living it with them without knowing what was really happening behind the scenes. Disney channel will never be the way it was from late 90s to 2012 after vine and ig started.
@Markpierce2674
@Markpierce2674 2 жыл бұрын
Yup I said the exact same thing!
@draganescuconstantin2380
@draganescuconstantin2380 2 жыл бұрын
OMG Patrick could you please cover Nickelodeon's attempt at creating pop stars? I remember watching Victorious and Big Time Rush as a teen and being like "wait are they famous on the show or are they pop stars in real life?" lmfao
@Solavation
@Solavation 2 жыл бұрын
Nick only succeeded with ‘’The Naked Brothers Band’’ IMO Victorious had one hit I believe and it was ‘’Freak the Freak out‘’ I don’t believe any of the songs charted after that Victoria Justice music career was a flop. Jennette Mccurdy didn’t even really want to do music, Miranda Cosgrove wasn’t that invested in her music. BTR had one Gold song I think which was ‘’Boyfriend’’ which it went gold prolly cause of Snoop Dog, the show cancelled Its not really much to look into to be honest mostly all Nick stars flopped besides Naked Brothers Band
@idk4435
@idk4435 2 жыл бұрын
@@Solavation Damn you forgot about ariana grande lmfao
@Solavation
@Solavation 2 жыл бұрын
@@idk4435 No Arianna Grande doesnt have any records with Nickelodeon Records as Arianna Grande, theyre all victorious tracks. all her records as Arianna Grande are on Republic she went on to a music career after Nick. They really didn’t have anything to do with her post victorious as far as I know and I wouldn’t say Nick built her pop star image she managed by Scooter Braun Lol
@Firedogies
@Firedogies 2 жыл бұрын
@@Solavation Nickelodeon made her tho
@Solavation
@Solavation 2 жыл бұрын
@@Firedogies noooooooo not the case at all Arianna was on broad way before nick lol they didnt make her die they boost her visibility sure but, saying Nickloadeon made her is like saying she was nothing before victorious which is hardly the case
@EASEHD
@EASEHD 25 күн бұрын
Man you put a lot into this video. You’re amazing
@ideologybot4592
@ideologybot4592 Жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff, and I didn't watch or listen to any of it, but it's impressive. A couple of things: First, having a channel or record label was a fantastic infrastructure until everything diversified with online music and shows. Attention is a currency, and Disney figured out how to use the popularity of a show to bankroll a record with audience attention, then maybe another record and a movie. That's a perfect example of synergistic marketing. Second, attention is also finite and fatigue happens. They started to slump even before the platform shattered, so they might have figured out where their limits are. Assuming they figure out how to use online platforms, it could happen again, but they need to know when to stop, or at least when to move on to a new, younger star. Great video.
@ca-ke9493
@ca-ke9493 2 жыл бұрын
While HSM cast didnt go on to become pop stars, I'd argue HSM itself made a much bigger impact, especially on international markets. I remember so many kids were trying to dance All in this together and its really nostalgic for my generation. Kinda was a precursor to kpop dance videos.
@charlesintune
@charlesintune 2 жыл бұрын
To me, HSM WAS the beginning of it all. It swept the nation, even for teenagers like myself at the time. Everything that came after it was part of that hype train and no one knows why HSM was lightning in a bottle, it just WAS.
@darliasijour2467
@darliasijour2467 2 жыл бұрын
Not a precursor to it since kpop has been there even way before (if anything it was inspired by some jpop before growing into its own thing iirc) but i guess that's the closest thing we got that's still iconic to millenials 🤔 as spice girls was to other gens and even the more risqué PCD lol
@triadwarfare
@triadwarfare 2 жыл бұрын
I remember during high school, when we were given group assignments to make a musical, we all went with HSM, even if I never fully watched it at that time
@sofia-rp4yz
@sofia-rp4yz 2 жыл бұрын
kpop dance videos was just inspiration from black artists like janet jackson etc not hsm 😭.
@oqeufh
@oqeufh 2 жыл бұрын
We had to do a All in this together dance routine at school. HSM for me came out just at the right moment, I was 7-8 years old and it was the one thing everyone in my class was talking about. After that of course my interest in dance routines and music in general (especially music in English from Disney) peaked. So for me HSM was indeed the beginning, what a time…
@growingupwithdisney
@growingupwithdisney 2 жыл бұрын
The Cheetah Girls definitely played a part in the success of Hannah Montana. That movie had a lot of “girl power” moments and songs, which is probably how Disney thought of songs to write for Hannah Montana
@Launchpad05
@Launchpad05 2 жыл бұрын
You want REAL 'girl power', watch 'Iria: Zeriam The Animation' instead.
@pilot8220
@pilot8220 Жыл бұрын
@@Launchpad05 Lmao, thats a throwback classic
@amylee8969
@amylee8969 Жыл бұрын
I honestly preferred the Cheetah Girls over most of the Disney Channel musical shows/movies. Especially the first movie (I didn’t like the sequels much). It was a good role model for diverse girls of color and teenage girls following their dreams and working hard for it. That’s the kind of message that todays youth desperately needs.
@Indigoeyes
@Indigoeyes Жыл бұрын
I’m glad I found this video today this is very profound… Especially when you look at Brittany and her come back release as a tiny dancer she looks like a tiny dancer locked up in a jewelry box to me dancing in her old living room over and over it’s very sad and I don’t feel like things are better and it makes so much sense to me how Disney has a dark hold on her
@mohaukobe7872
@mohaukobe7872 10 ай бұрын
Wow, amazing, this is hands down, the most entertaining and interesting video I've ever seen on KZfaq. Great video, man. 👏👏👏
@mmgpa2580
@mmgpa2580 2 жыл бұрын
An interesting addition to this analysis is Disney In Latin America. There’s this Argentinian (Tini Stoessel) who started as an actress on a Disney show (Violetta) when she was idk 16 maybe. She sang on the show and on its soundtrack. She made a movie about the same show with them (again with a soundtrack). She then went on to release two or three album WITH HOLLYWOOD RECORDS as her label and she is the most listened to Argentine singer in Spotify (or something like that). She has done tours over Europe and South America. Edit: her albums slowly progressed to more mature aesthetics but they’re all under Hollywood records.
@user-ih4so4gx3r
@user-ih4so4gx3r 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, I'm from Poland and I still remember how big the show was around here (same with "Soy Luna" actually). I was really surprised when he mentioned the years of their peak popularity as a gap, but then I found that these shows have never been aired on Disney Channel in the US (apparently they thought the telenovela format wouldn't apply to the American audience). Disney was still thriving, just not in the States lol
@ritikagandla6670
@ritikagandla6670 2 жыл бұрын
From the US, I love Soy Luna and Bia, and saw them on Disney+. The Violetta soundtrack went platinum in a bunch of countries. Tini was 14 when Violetta first aired. In 202, Tini was named Billboard Argentina's Artist Of The Year. I love her music too. I feel like she would get so much more recognition if she went with a record label with less ties to Disney. She's really talented.
@rockyhollows
@rockyhollows 2 жыл бұрын
ooh i loved TINI's song "Got Me Started"!
@realtalk6195
@realtalk6195 Жыл бұрын
@@user-ih4so4gx3r They rarely air foreign programming on English-language TV networks in the US. Even shows from the US, AUS, NZ are rare; Canadian shows have a slightly better shot because the accent is similar. So non-English programming wasn't going to be dubbed into English on Disney Channel, and they don't own a separate Spanish-language channel.
@diamoond11
@diamoond11 Жыл бұрын
They pushed mexican Karol Sevilla with Soy Luna as well. Disney Latam tries to make shows from time to time but those were the two major musical ones.
@IAMASELENATOR92
@IAMASELENATOR92 2 жыл бұрын
very smart how they used "Tell Me Something I don't Know" in both the Cinderella Story soundtrack and Selena's album
@dman6261
@dman6261 Жыл бұрын
I remember some girlfriend and sisters go wild with those Disney's popstars, never got the interest on them but I can recall hearing the names and some music due to my sisters, I finally know were they come from and why they were so big at the time thanks to this video
@mochichichi2458
@mochichichi2458 Жыл бұрын
You think this is bad? The KPOP industry has perfected this lol. Last year 2006 liner were debuting
@pspspspspspspspspspspspspspss
@pspspspspspspspspspspspspspss 2 жыл бұрын
Small artist can make a HUGE difference with let say a 2000$ for promoting or better producing their songs. Now imagine a whole multi billion dollars company is backing up your music, it’s actually a surprise that these artists are only with this popularity considering how much it helps to have a whole company supporting your career
@tyrelbass
@tyrelbass 2 жыл бұрын
Popularity can only take you so far when it comes to music , you still have to consistently drop top 25 billboard hits to say relevant . Even with lots of money and promo that’s tuff to do. Plus it’s hard to get the mainstream to listen to pop music targeted towards kids
@samiai8905
@samiai8905 2 жыл бұрын
Man this is so twisted. Screw Disney, they literally experimented with children and squeezed them dry. The fact that so many of these stars had public meldowns too probably put a halt on their plans as well.
@triadwarfare
@triadwarfare 2 жыл бұрын
You could argue the whole school system is a children's experiment to make them functional and productive adults. Not giving them an education and letting them experience the harsh reality of capitalism is equally as bad too.
@Martin-yh7vi
@Martin-yh7vi 2 жыл бұрын
@@triadwarfare Not having a normal childhood usually fucks somebody up later down the line when they're adults. Now it's not always, sometimes they are able to avoid complete breakdown if they have a good support system.
@fistpump64
@fistpump64 2 жыл бұрын
@@triadwarfare capitalism
@Iksvomid
@Iksvomid 2 жыл бұрын
Oh no, some kids made millions, poor them.
@Iksvomid
@Iksvomid 2 жыл бұрын
@Emily R You are neither, so talking hypothetically isn't so mighty.
@Hollowdude15
@Hollowdude15 8 ай бұрын
Disney really needs to get smart with their ideas and great video man :]
@AndyCrocker
@AndyCrocker Жыл бұрын
Very well researched and explained!
@SeaWiseBrain
@SeaWiseBrain 2 жыл бұрын
I would also like to add Zendaya as well. She did try to debut as a singer in the music industry but she mostly continued her acting career. She sounds so good in The Greatest Showman though.
@lalaland2107
@lalaland2107 2 жыл бұрын
I think Disney wanted her to do that... Idk
@Sabrina-sc1db
@Sabrina-sc1db 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the Replay video all the time on Disney
@woah729
@woah729 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked Sour as a debut but it is definitely naive to think that she was homegrown in any way shape or form. it is impressive though that Sour’s writing and production crew mostly just boiled down to Rodrigo and Dan Nigro.
@karissa2126
@karissa2126 2 жыл бұрын
it has that Gen Z appeal and it suits the demographic of the audience, that's why it's so famous.
@JRNova11
@JRNova11 2 жыл бұрын
Yea I wouldn’t say homegrown but “industry plant” is a reach. Simply because she wasn’t necessarily hiding label connections it has been straight up and embraced it since the beginning.
@woah729
@woah729 2 жыл бұрын
@@JRNova11 definitely agree. for someone who has huge label and industry connections she definitely has a lot of free agency with what she writes and that’s super cool
@ladiorange
@ladiorange 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if dan nigro is related to laura nyro....
@woah729
@woah729 2 жыл бұрын
@@ladiorange I just looked it up, it appears not. that would be pretty sweet though.
@toyboxtalk9918
@toyboxtalk9918 Жыл бұрын
We love your content coverage here at the studios awesome stuff ! 💥
@jayshree7574
@jayshree7574 Жыл бұрын
thanks for the breakdown, it's great everything worked out for them. this might sound bad, but sometimes i just feel jealous of the opportunities people get in the US. anyways everyone has their own path. thanks for sharing the detailed breakout on these.
@armieestrong7059
@armieestrong7059 2 жыл бұрын
as someone who gREW UP with these shows and these pop stars, it BLEW my mind to see the formula all laid out like that. cause like the other 8 million kids who were watching disney channel, i did not know that we so EASILY fed into what they were feeding us and it just BLEW my mind
@michaelkmiec5842
@michaelkmiec5842 Жыл бұрын
MOMMMMMM I POOPED ON THE CARPET HOW ABOUT YOU COME CLEANNNNNNNN
@lashonsade2673
@lashonsade2673 11 ай бұрын
Right! Damn
@mrdad-zl9zl
@mrdad-zl9zl 3 ай бұрын
The beauty of child audiences! To a corporation the natural lack of understanding and brain development = $$$$$$
@Chamathkaraperera
@Chamathkaraperera 2 жыл бұрын
So the Jonas Brothers debut album was the only one that went platinum without the backing of movies and TV shows I guess, they were already making music and performing before Disney picked them up so it makes sense.
@Chamathkaraperera
@Chamathkaraperera 2 жыл бұрын
@Call Me, BLEGH Me, If You Wanna Reach Me Yeah, true, but it wasn't directly piggy backing off of a certain TV show or movie for success. They were the only ones who started with an album first and then went on to do movies and other stuff.
@Solavation
@Solavation 2 жыл бұрын
@Call Me, BLEGH Me, If You Wanna Reach Me Jonas Brothers did actually have music before Disney, Nick Primarily they got signed a bit later. But youre right SOS used to play all the time; But I also remember other movie tie in songs like Year 3000 and Hold On. Also they used to play the hell out of ‘’Look Me In The Eyes’’ I’m honestly not ashamed to say some of those songs were bops and I was a fan of JB. I havent played there new shit tho at all
@BDLabs2
@BDLabs2 2 жыл бұрын
@Call Me, BLEGH Me, If You Wanna Reach Me The Jonas Brothers did a remake/cover of “Kids in America” to promote Disney’s Meet the Robinsons movie. They covered “I Wanna Be Like You” for a re-release of the Jungle Book. They covered “Poor Unfortunate Souls” for a re-release of The Little Mermaid. Their song “Hold On” promoted Disney’s Johnny Kapahala: Back on Board. The band sang a new version of Disney’s TV show American Dragon: Jake Long. They stared in the Camp Rock franchise and had their own TV show. Disney premiered their own 3D concert movie like what they did with Hannah Montana.
@GreeeenT
@GreeeenT 2 жыл бұрын
It was also when the internet and social media was picking up! And they leveraged it. They posted everything on KZfaq and they used to do livestreams and stuff
@musiclover_kb4913
@musiclover_kb4913 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah cause the formation of their band had nothing to do with Disney at all. They were also musicians first, that's why even after getting a show on the channel, what they did onscreen and what they did for themselves could be seen as separate entities
@4xking
@4xking Жыл бұрын
Wow this is an awesome video Pat!!!!
@greatescapes8690
@greatescapes8690 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I rarely listen thru the entirety of these types of videos but your storytelling was off the hook
@leomanoban3438
@leomanoban3438 2 жыл бұрын
Miley, Selena, Demi and the Jonas Brothers were everywhere when I was a child. OMG. It brings me back so many memories, happy times
@julietafernandez6350
@julietafernandez6350 2 жыл бұрын
Latin American Disney sort of used this same formula too: from 2012 to 2015 aired the Argentinian TV show “Violetta”, which was about a musically gifted teenager who moves back to Buenos Aires with her father after having lived in Europe. They casted the 14 year old Martina Stoessel to play the protagonist; the show had multiple records and tours. Today she’s one of the most successful Latin American musicians. Her artistic name is “TINI” and her music is dope, by the way.
@mariaclaracoutinhobrandao2691
@mariaclaracoutinhobrandao2691 Жыл бұрын
As a South american Violetta was such a huge sucess is South america
@kilon0vember
@kilon0vember Жыл бұрын
I’m from Europe, Violetta was the big thing here too
@Princess_Faith1
@Princess_Faith1 Жыл бұрын
I love her
@milantoth6246
@milantoth6246 6 ай бұрын
Oh my God I completely forgot abput that show. Im eastern european, and I just remember how all the girls were obsessed with it and we all hated it. I’ll give her a second chance though .
@thefactis648
@thefactis648 5 ай бұрын
Also Patito Feo at the same era with Violeta was huuuuge thing and Disney Latino America bought the rights of the show and the second season was on Disney Channel.
@AlmightyScotty24
@AlmightyScotty24 2 ай бұрын
Shout out this Patrick making sure 2.5 million people are staying hydrated
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