The word rapture in the song Blessed Assurance I think means intense joy or pleasure in knowing you are saved by Christ.

Such good timing- I’ve been going through all your postmill videos the past few days and it’s been an interesting journey! Lots to learn.

You are such a daily inspiration. God bless you and your family! Hope the new little guy is doing great😍

Great summery video! 🙏🏽

This makes a LOT of sense. I'm blown away by the amount of Scriptural support for the postmillennial view. By the way, you can thank your discussion with Mike Winger for turning me on to Right Response Ministries.

Great Job!!!

I love your advertisement voice 😆😄

I'm thankful that I'm a pretribulation rapture because it doesn't make sense in just going up just to turn around and come back we are the bride of Christ and the 7 year tribulation is a time of the wrath of God on the unbelievers and God would not beat up His bride.

Amen, he Shall have Dominion Here, This is why we have this verse in revelation <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="675">11:15</a>. Revelation <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="675">11:15</a>And the seventh angel sounded, and there were great voices in Heaven, saying, “The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign for ever and ever!”

This topic came up in my church group meeting last Friday! Not sure if this is a coincidence or if this is a trending topic, but now I'm aware that I've been holding contradicting views about the rapture. When I read scripture, I believe Yeshua is returning once. But I also believed in the pretrib view too. Gosh, there's so much to learn and unlearn.

Either way, the Lord has come to this earth many times he walked in the garden with Adam. He met Joshua opposite Jericho. The first and second advents are Jesus coming year to the earth. When he appears in the clouds, that's not him coming to the earth.

Is there a family discount for the conference? Unaffordable for a big family. 😅

Pastor Joel. Where can I find a bio of you that includes your education and training credentials?

The same concept "words" appears in Acts <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1695">28:15</a>. Where "the brothers and sisters in Rome heard," Paul and his companions were coming, so the y went out to meet them.

My new name for the secret rapture doctrine is "Protestant Purgatory"! Lol-) sDg'n it!

Pastor Joel, I always struggled with the premil view. Outside of Scripture, what is the most extensive writing on premillennialism? The new heaven and new earth takes place when as it relates to the return of Christ and the Church to the new heaven and new earth?

This is also imagery of what happened in Rome when the victorious army would return from battle. I believe the audience receiving this message would have seen this as well.

Doug Wilson had been my Pastor for over 8 years.

How do you harmonize the post-mil view with the warning of the apostasia in 2. Thess 2?

You basically just described the post-tribulation rapture belief. It was interesting to see the great lengths you go to describe the rapture and place it in your eschatology. That is what we call isigesis. Remember that a few verses after the description of the rapture we are given the details of the tribulation that textually speaking follows after the rapture. Glad i know my Bible well enough to recognize erroneous teaching.

So very good and well delivered. As you infer, I think it's important to see that 1 Thess. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="253">4:13</a>-18 should be associated with the final return of Christ and the resurrection in 1 Cor. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="951">15:51</a>-58 and Acts <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="71">1:11</a>, because of the exegetical clues of Christ's "descent" and because the "changing" of the living. The descent fits with Acts <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="71">1:11</a>, and the changing fits with 1 Cor. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="953">15:53</a> (and the “last trumpet”). G.K. Beal (futurist amil) incorrectly associates this passage with Mat 24's trumpet, which he also sees as future, but for the partial preterist postmil, the changing of the living in 1 Thess. 4 doesn't fit with that, and Mat 24's cloud coming is not the physical return of Christ to earth. The sending of the angels and the gathering is the great commission call to the nations to believe upon Christ (Isa. 6<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="3">0:3</a>, 6<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="379">6:19</a>; Mat. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1699">28:19</a>). The "word of the Lord" that Paul is referencing in 1 Thess. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="255">4:15</a> fits much better with Jn. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="685">11:25</a>, where Jesus makes reference to the resurrection of the dead and that the living will never die (the living who are alive at his return). Paul seems to be explicating this in 1 Thess. 4. His concern is to correct the older sadduceeian view where only the living participate in the kingdom when Christ comes. He comforts them in knowing that the dead will also be raised. He then goes on to talk about the "times and the seasons" in 1 Thess. 5, the day of the Lord, and the thief coming. And these things do relate to the judgment coming of Mat. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1470">24:30</a>, 42. But these were things that Paul had already told them about and here are held in contrast with the future coming of Jesus associated with the general resurrection which was a new teaching to them. It makes sense that Paul initially would have been speaking of the judgment coming against Jerusalem when he first came to them, because he was being persecuted by the Synagogue in the prior city he was fleeing from. The judgment that was full against Israel is mentioned in 1 Thess. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="136">2:16</a> and is the main theme of these letters with the exception of this teaching on the mystery of the general resurrection.

Most premils don't call the rapture a secret. It's all over Scripture. Paul called it a mystery. No one says secret except post mils arguing it.

I'm Pre-Mil, Pre-Wrath and that viewpoint also has no secret Rapture. Now the question is "Do you believe the Great Tribulation is 7 years or 3 1/2 years?" The Pre-wrath viewpoint is that the Great Tribulation is 3 1/2 years, NOT 7 years. Proper definitions are important. The eschatology passages dealing with the Great Tribulation ALWAYS point to it lasting 3 1/2 years.

So it is similar to the historic (post tribulation) premillennialism, the difference being what is the state of the world that Christ is returning to.

What psalm is “blessed assurance?”

hello. peace on to you all. what is (or are) the theological argument(s) between post and amillennialism (which is my view)?

I find it interesting that none of the eschatological views seems to account for the event when Christians will judge angels 1 Cor 6: 3. In fact I'm not comfortable calling myself aligned with any formal eschatological view because there is too much in the Bible that they don't account for as well as I get the clear impression that God has not revealed everything or possibly even close to everything He is planned for the future. We should all account for not knowing. What takes me back more than anything and is the death knell to any real assurance of future events (aside for Christ saying it is not for man to know the times or seasons) is Luke 18: 8: When the son of man comes, will he find faith on the earth?

Interesting to use Matthew 25 parable of the ten virgins since it doesn't have the rapture word (harpazo). Being "caught up or snatched away"(harpazo) is much different than just going out to meet someone. I wonder what preterist post mils would do with Rev <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="190">3:10</a>, "he will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming upon the whole world" (world is the term - oikoumene - meaning the known inhabited world)

Dispensationalism... the original replacement theology. Replaces the 2nd coming with a rapture replaces one people of God with two etc.

I would note that many partial preterists postmils would see the virgins and oil parable to be about leaving the city of Jerusalem before its sealing up by Simon and the Romans in Nisan at the Passover of AD 70, and being gathered to the heavenly assembly of the new Jerusalem church (Mat. 24: Heb. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="742">12:22</a>, <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="793">13:13</a>). The need to go back to the city would be seen as not having the true oil of the Spirit of Christ, but returning to the temple and city. Such persons won't be able to enter into the eternal banquet of the new heavens and earth. But this interpretation is minor difference among brothers. :) It depends mostly on whether one sees Mat. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1476">24:36</a> as a transition to the final coming of Christ or whether the "day and the hour" is a period inside the generation of the judgment coming against the temple.

How does preterism differ from the NAR kingdom theology?

Totally understand. 100 percent clear. Now this leads to this next question: will this Earth be physically destroyed or destroyed spiritually and renewed for the rest of eternity?

I think eventually.....we all become amillenialists :).

Bummer. I’m going to be woken out of my long “sleep” and taken up to 30,000 feet and then plunge back to earth. 😢

Dispensationalists and “Holy Rollers” are losing their minds right now 😂

Definition of rap·ture /ˈrap(t)SHər/ noun 1. a feeling of intense pleasure or joy. This is what the song is referring to in the song. Not seeing the rapture of the church.

I'm surprised you didn't start your explanation at verse 14, and what it tells us with the last 4 words. 1 Thessalonians <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="254">4:14</a> For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. This shows us their Spirit is already with the Lord awaiting the resurrection of there Bodies to be made new and incorruptible.

The number of "comings" seems unimportant and arbitrary to my mind. I mean, reading through the OT we see multiple instances where most likely Christ interacted with humans in human form (or at least the appearance of human form). I'm inclined to believe there are many more instances which are not recorded in Scripture. I certainly do not understand the totality of Revelations or prophecy, but given that we all believe in the omnipotence and omnipresence of God, some of these concerns about the comings and goings of Jesus seem very contrived. Just a thought.

What of traditional Catholics (Latin Mass etc.) who are Postmillennials? Honest question. Thank you.

all because you could not figure out the book of revelation, you could have brenda weltner on as a guest to give you alternate solution

Why would a group of preachers come together and charge to teach the word of God?

"And while they went to buy it, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready "went with him" into the wedding banquet; and the "door" was shut. 11Later the other bridesmaids came also, saying, ‘Lord, lord, open to us.’ 12But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I do not know you.’ 13Keep awake therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour." - Matthew <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1510">25:10</a>-13 You didn't mention these last verses of the parable. What does this mean? Also what is Jesus saying here: "In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to "prepare a place for you." And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will "come again" and "receive you to Myself;" that "where I am," "there you may be also." And where I go you know, and the way you know.” Thomas said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, and how can we know the way?” Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." - John <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="842">14:2</a>-6

I have 3 questions. I am a postmilleniest and agree with this interpretation of the word "rapture". Is the tribulation before the rapture or after? My second question is, when does the thousand years begin? Third question, what happens after the thousand years?

Pastor Joel, does the Thessalonian verse ever refer to the destruction of Jerusalem ad 70?

so we will come with him in glory to the new earth , yet , the sinners will still be there ?

The 5 foolish virgins get shut out of the wedding. What is the parallel for that part?

How do you respond to "coming as a thief in the night" if everyone is ready for him?

This conference going to cover dietary laws? I don’t ever hear about this subject. Thank you Brother for Exegesis 1 Thessalonians <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="253">4:13</a>-18 when majority Eisegesis these verses 😀

Joel, we premils believe exactly what the text says.

So why don't we use the historical perspective of this "rapture" - as in - who is Paul talking to? (all believers, us today, or those he directly talked to at the time?) Just like we use when we talk about the judgment of the covenant breakers and destruction of the temple, the wrath to come on those ppl and that land, etc? Meaning - Jesus was speaking to THAT generation - not us. Why don't we use that same approach in Thessalonians?

Im trying to follow along but spiritualizing most if not all prophecy as having happened just doesnt help sort through the matters of scripture. It leads to more confusion.A 180 rapture doesn't make sense to me.

So postmillennial rapture. Then how does the judgment of the sheep & goats happen upon Christ’s return? Who are the sheep? Are they just raptured and then returned to earth to join the goats for judgment?

I feel like this interpretation is the least believed, which sadens me cause it's the 1 true interpretation of the Last Day, " Day of the Lord" proclaimed throughout all scripture

Grew up under the left behind series and as a kid before that saw the 1972 movie 'thief in the night" which scared the shit out of me.. There has been a whole boomer generation indoctrinated to rapture theology. Coming out of it is like reverting to heterosexual from gay. So many "wack-a-doodles" in the church in the late 60's and 70's. And before that in the 1830's-1860's, with Scofield and Darby bibles written, also the JW's, LDS's, SDA's, ICOC's. Rapture, Glossolalia, Female Pastors, etc... all a Bunch of Wack-O's. You shall know them by their fruits!

Seems to be inconsistent, in accordance to Matthew <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1483">24:43</a>-44, how the believers will serve as welcoming on the Jesus return. When Jesus Himself. That He will return to the day and hour where no one including the believers will ever know or expect.

Going out to meet and welcome in the king or a dignitary or somebody special was a custom of ancient Israel and the ancient world

Do you have any… evidence? Either historical or scriptural? Cause I need a little more than just “we believe”.

This isn't about what town the groom lives in. They could be within the same community. That's a stretch. The purpose of oil in the parable and within wedding customs of the time, was the bride and he bridesmaids (witnesses) did not know when the groom would arrive. So the maid would stay with the bride. But it typically happened at night So when they heard the shout they were too go out. Since there are no street lights, the lamps would be needed. Once the full party entered the grooms home, the door would be locked. Anyone not there would not be permitted in. This is pointing to John 14. Ive gone to prepare a place. So that where i am (heaven) you will be there also.

To believe in post-millennialism, one has to listen to hours and hours and hours and read hundreds and hundreds of pages continually to somewhat believe, possibly. John MacArthur can provide a solid Biblical explanation of pre-millennial dispensationalism in less than 10 minutes. Love Ya. I agree with John MacArthur.

Is this after the wrath that is poured on the earth?

I never heard of anybody, believing in a secret rapture I was taught in church that everybody will know that you’re just rapture, and the dead will rise with the church, and we will escape the judgment and we will remain in heaven for 1000 years until Christ returns to rain on earth. There’s no secret about it. I’m not sure where you get that idea but just to let you know.

I don't understand how preachers like John Macarthur can teach a secret rapture when he's fully aware what Jesus and Martha both said in the book of John concerning the resurrection that it will be on the Last Day. 6 times this it is stated in the book of John I will raise him up on the Last Day not Last Days.

That's not the way I've understood 1 Thes 4 as a postmillennial Are you implying that Paul is referring to some event other than Jesus coming on the clouds on that generation in 1 Thes 4? I see the "coming of the Lord" as the event prophesied of in Mathew 24, do you not? I have taken the next Eschatological event to be the great white throne judgment, probably thousands of years away, and at that point when the dead in Christ are raised, the alive who are in the most advanced stages of kingdom growth will be caught up to the judgment seat and changed Where are we getting our wires crossed?

Those who hold to postmillennialism believe that this world will become better and better (even though it certainly doesn't look like it is) with the entire world eventually becoming “Christianized.” After this happens, Christ will return. However, this is not the view of the world in the end times that Scripture presents. From the book of Revelation, it is easy to see that the world will be a terrible place during that future time. Also, in 2nd Timothy <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="181">3:1</a>-5 it says, “There will be terrible times in the LAST days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God." IF Christians and thereby Christ were reigning, do we really think we would have over a billion Muslims, who view Jesus as a prophet right below Mohamad, a billion Buddhists, who believe Jesus was an enlightened person, a billion Hindus, who believe Jesus studied yoga and became a guru to the Jews, a billion Catholics who are entrusting their souls to Mary at the hour of their death, nearly a billion atheists, the LGBTQ running rampant, TV shows and movies, that continually blaspheme God and His Christ, drinking, drugs, colleges that have become propaganda mills that promote Godless, Big-bang theology and Darwinian Evolution, human trafficking, and a host of other sinful deeds that will be eliminated during the reign of Jesus Christ, our Holy God. This is a good example of eisegesis; reading pre-conceived ideas into the text, rather than simply reading what the text is clearly stating.

JW scripturally unsound; Matthew <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1469">24:29</a>-31 states Christ gathers his elect immediately following tribulation…“29 “But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. 31 And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet blast, and they will gather together His [x]elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.”

Great minds and sincere men of God have had differing interpretation of this subject for a very long time. Man is historically not comfortable with mystery, and will give an explanation no matter if necessarily variables required to conclusively solve for x are currently missing. Is it possible that God hasn't yet dispensed those variables? It wouldn't be the first time. Just saying.

You forgot about the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, pastor. That happens in Heaven after the Harpazzo. We are not going to have the wedding ceremony on Earth before/after he sits on the Davidic throne. There's actually multiple things you messed up here. First of all, Pre-Trib does not teach that he comes for the living and leaves the dead in the grave at his first descent. They are all raised together. Additionally to that, it says in the book of revelation John saw a mass of believers in heaven who were in a seperate class from the bride (Church) which had to "Die for their faith." So Revelation seems to imply that all who come to believe on Earth during the Great Tribulation will DIE one way or the other before Christ comes back with the Saints in Glory. There are many Jewish customs that relate to the way Weddings are conducted. But you only reference the welcoming into town of a bride groom, nothing about Christ "preparing a place for us" and what happens during the 7 day feast after the wedding. Also, no mention of how during Jesus' "first coming" he does NOT touch his toe to the mount of olives. His first coming he does not land, and does not fully descend to initiate the claiming of the throne. That happens during the second event. It doesnt seem you have given any of that consideration into your viewpoint. You are trying to take a couple of verses and base an entire Eschatology off of them while side stepping so many other important references. Such as the timeline of the 70 weeks of Daniel. I get why the Pre-Trib rapture is difficult for some to believe but it is so much more scriptural than the way you lay this out. You are very neglectful in the way you broke this down and from what I understand didn't even really explain the differences properly. Seems that typically Pre-millenialists can explain and understand all views of Eschatology, while none of the others can understand and properly explain Pre-Millenial Pre-Trib Dispensationalism. I wonder why that is? Narrow is the path... At least you can still have salvation without understanding these verses, but it is a shame that so much of God's glory is not given to him properly.

I love your videos. But stop talking and let your guests speak. 😂

Fundamental misunderstanding of Jewish wedding ceremonies which is the symbol for the Rapture. The bridegroom comes to collect the bride but then they all proceed together BACK TO THE FATHER'S HOUSE for the wedding feast which immediately follow the consummation of the marriage. The marriage supper of the Lamb (the party) is in heaven and will last 7 years (while the Tribulation takes place on Earth) as an illustration of how the Jewish ceremony lasted 7 days.

Joel, compare Matt <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1471">24:31</a> with 1 Thess 4...it's not about the bodily return of Christ.

I am premillennial and I believe that the rapture will happen exactly like you described. However, Revelation 7.9 indicates that we will not immediately come to earth with Christ but will be in heaven until the millennial reign after God's wrath is poured out. Not all premillennials believe in multiple raptures. There's only one. I believe: 3.5 years (+40 days, my interpretation) of tribulation > rapture > 3.5 years of wrath > millennial reign > armegeddon > new heaven, new earth

I considered myself a staunch Postmill Partial Preterist- but I'm having a hard time actually finding any verses that support a physical "second" (or "third") coming in our future.

The thing about the 5 wise virgins is this…they realize that the wedding feast takes place in heaven in Revelation 19 before Jesus returns with them to the Earth on his white horse to reign as king during the 1,000 year Millennial reign in Revelation 20 (chronology matters). 😅…also your somewhat straw manning premillennialism by leaving out the fact that tradition premillennialism (as held by most of the early church fathers like Justin Martyr and Ignatius) believes the rapture will occur at the end of the Tribulation (i.e. no “secret rapture”). In fact, among the theologians today that hold to a premillennial eschatology there’s a 50/50 split between those who hold a pre-tribulation rapture view and those who hold a traditional post-tribulation rapture view. Almost no scholars hold a mid-tribulation view (there are a few but it’s a very small percentage).As an aside, I really struggle to see how postmillennialists deny a literal seven year tribulation given what appears to be a fairly typical dual natured prophecy in Daniel <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="567">9:27</a> , and the language in Revelation <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="662">11:2</a>, <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="663">11:3</a>, <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="726">12:6</a>, <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="734">12:14</a>, & <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="785">13:5</a>. As far as the pre-tribulation rapture is concerned, Dr. John Walvoord and Dr. Thomas Ice have laid out really good biblical cases for that position and it deserves more respect then it typically gets in the postmillennial community. I would encourage all those seeking the truth to study the most scholarly writing from each of the positions before taking a stance.

Rev <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="67">1:7</a> speaks of Christ "coming with the clouds" but there and in Matthew 24, every eye sees Him. This seems like the final coming you describe rather than 70 AD. Of note, Isaiah 19, has God riding a cloud to Egypt. Would you say this occurred in 70 AD, a different past coming, or is yet to occur? Also your interpretation has the 2nd half of Joel 2 fulfilled before the 1st half. Historic premil sees Peter's "this is that..." proclamation (Acts <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="136">2:16</a>-18) as the down-payment in the 1st century of the ultimate fulfillment at Christs final coming. Because everyone is either perfected or destroyed immediately upon Christ's arrival, in your view, there is no time or reason for all flesh to prophesy or see visions after his return (see 1 Cor <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="788">13:8</a>).

The rapture will happen God removes the true believers the tribulation starts. The believers in Jesus are not to suffer the wrath of God.Tribulation is not meant for The saved = true believers of Jesus. Yes there will be people saved during the tribulation but trust me you want to become saved now! The tribulation will be days like no other. Especially the last 3.5 years of tribulation. Honestly Jesus is coming in the clouds ( his feet don’t touch the earth at this time but his feet will touch the ground in the second coming) the true believers will be caught up I. The air/ clouds to be with Jesus in the rapture. Those left behind will have a CD very hard time. When the true believers this is known also as God removing the restrainer. When God removed the restrainer from earth many terrible things will happen. You don’t want to be here. You the non believer will suffer to be wrath of God not the believers. I pray you come to Jesus today!! Your running out of time. I pray for you.

Do you believe the post-millennial view? or are you just explaining it as a possibility. Cause I can’t find enough scripture or history to form a belief either way. I definitely see it as a possibility but that’s it. Oh ok, so you do believe. That’s cool, I would love to know what it is that makes you believe.

The RAPTURE is NOT even discussed in the Parable of the Ten Virgins (Mt. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1501">25:1</a>-13)! The word, ἁρπάζω, harpazó, is not even mentioned in the text! It is, however, explicit in 1 Thes. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="257">4:17</a>, and Rev <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="725">12:5</a>. Very telling, indeed, that Postmillennialists just IGNORE the issue altogether, just because they reject Dispensational Futurism (a false Eschatological system). Hope this is edifying to the saints who actually want to know the TRUTH about the Rapture. *Soli Deo Gloria*

Christ does not come to the earth in the pre-Trib rapture. Believers are caught up/snatched to meet the Lord in the air. At the second coming Christ sets foot on the earth/mount of olives at end of Tribulation. One coming in two stages.

The most drawn out, trite explanation of P M I’ve ever seen. Usually you are very deep at least and often mean.

Post-trib view understands "The Day of the Lord" to refer exclusively to the “Second Coming” of Christ, which occurs after the 7-year tribulation. On the other hand, Pre-trib view considers "The Day of the Lord" to mean the entire sequence of events of the “7-year tribulation.” I struggle to understand how "The Day of the Lord" is solely connected to the Second Coming of Christ. Firstly, if you study the concept of "The Day of the Lord" in the Old Testament, you will discover that it is not a 24-hour period or an instantaneous event connected only to the Second Coming of Christ. Instead, the prophets repeatedly describe "The Day of the Lord" as a sequence of events leading up to the coming of the LORD. It is a complex series of judgments and not a singular event. Secondly, Jesus Himself confirms this understanding in Matthew 24. He divides the first half of the tribulation (Matthew <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1444">24:4</a>-14) from the second half (Matthew <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1455">24:15</a>-28), with verse 15 serving as a dividing point. Jesus clearly mentions the Seventieth Week of Daniel (Dan <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="567">9:27</a>) here in <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1455">24:15</a>, which refers to the future Antichrist setting up an abomination of desolation in the temple. The events described in Matthew <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1444">24:4</a>-14 closely resemble the beginning of the Seal judgments in Revelation 6. Jesus uses exactly same Greek words, such as "famines and earthquakes" (<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1447">24:7</a>), "will kill you" (<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1449">24:9</a>), which correspond to the Seal judgments' description of "kill by sword, famine, and plague" (Rev <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="368">6:8</a>), and "There was a great earthquake" (Rev <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="372">6:12</a>). Furthermore, Jesus describes the second half of the tribulation with the presence of false messiahs and false prophets performing “signs” and wonders to “deceive” people (Matt <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1464">24:24</a>). These same Greek words for "signs" and "deceive" appear in Revelation 13 when it describes the actions of the Beast in the second half of the tribulation. The 7-year tribulation begins with the Seal judgments and concludes with the Bowl judgments. Thus, we see Jesus mentioning this entire 7-year tribulation as a sequence of events in Matthew 24. The fact that Matthew <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1444">24:4</a>-28 encompasses the entirety of "the Day (ἡμέρα) of the Lord" is confirmed by Jesus' statement, "But immediately after the tribulation of those days (ἡμέρα)" (<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1469">24:29</a>), people will witness the coming of the Son of Man: the Second Coming (<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1470">24:30</a>). The Second Coming occurs "after" the "Day (ἡμέρα) of the Lord," specifically, "immediately after the tribulation of those days (ἡμέρα)." Therefore, it is unreasonable to equate "the Day of the Lord" solely with the singular event of the "Second Coming of Christ." Jesus Himself even emphasized that when individuals observe "all these things," they should recognize that He is near (<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1473">24:33</a>). "All these things" refers to the entire sequence of events during the tribulation (the Day of the Lord, <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1444">24:4</a>-28). The Second Coming is preceded by specific and clear "signs," similar to how people can anticipate the approach of summer (<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1472">24:32</a>). However, Jesus changes the topic (peri de) starting in <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1476">24:36</a>, stating, "But of that day (ἡμέρα) and hour no one knows." The Day of the Lord, the tribulation, is a "signless" event without visible signs. The most compelling evidence supporting the understanding that the Day of the Lord encompasses the entirety of the 7-year tribulation comes from Paul's words in 1 Thessalonians 5. Paul describes the day (ἡμέρα) of the Lord as coming upon unbelievers suddenly, "like labor pains (ὠδίν) on a pregnant woman," and they will not escape (<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="303">5:3</a>). It is noteworthy that the "onset" of the Day of the Lord is the same as what Jesus referred to as the "onset" of the tribulation in Matthew 24: "All these are the beginning of birth pains (ὠδίν)" (<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1448">24:8</a>). Both Paul and Jesus affirm that the Day of the Lord is not a singular event but a sequence of events (7 years) leading up to the Second Coming. Both Jesus and Paul affirm that the "onset" of the Day of the Lord signifies only the beginning of birth pains. Unbelievers cannot "escape" the Day when it begins and the sequence of events unfolds. Paul further states, "But you (second person: believers), brethren, are not in darkness, that the day (ἡμέρα) would overtake you like a thief" (<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="304">5:4</a>). The onset of "that day" cannot seize believers violently because Paul explained in the preceding context that they will be "caught up" to be with the Lord (<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="257">4:17</a>). Furthermore, if we equate the Day with Christ's Second Coming, it becomes difficult to comprehend how unbelievers can say "peace and safety" (<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="303">5:3</a>) and live their lives normally just before the Second Coming of Christ, given that they are currently experiencing the terrible wrath of God during that time. Lastly, look at 2 Thessalonians 2. Some of the Thessalonians were disturbed by a report claiming that the day of the Lord had arrived (<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="122">2:2</a>). If, in this context, the day of the Lord is synonymous with the second coming, then it would be impossible for them to be shaken in mind. Instead of being troubled, they should have rejoiced that the Day of the Lord had come! If the Christians had mistakenly believed, based on Paul's previous teaching, that they were currently going through the tribulation and held a post-tribulationist view, they would have likely been rejoicing rather than troubled by the idea of sudden deliverance. When we consider the overall context of 1-2 Thessalonians, the only logical explanation is as follows: The Thessalonians had been previously taught that the rapture would occur before the day of the Lord. The lie they heard just before Paul wrote his second letter to them suggested that the day of the Lord had come, and being informed of the day of the Lord's arrival necessarily implied that they had missed the rapture. This would undoubtedly be disconcerting, and it would have shaken the Thessalonians from their composure. The pre-tribulational rapture is not lacking in biblical support and evidence. In fact, there is ample evidence to support it. I humbly believe that viewing 1 Thessalonians 4-5 in its entirety, the pre-tribulation position appears to be the most natural reading.

It is a straw man argument to say that other views hold that believers will stay in the air after being caught up as stated in this video. I don't know anyone of any persuasion that believes that. You have to deal with John <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="841">14:1</a>-3 where Jesus says he will come back for believers and take them to the Father's House in Heaven, where he is at that time. There is a question as to WHEN he takes them, but he clearly states that he WILL take them.

"Turn right back around"???? Oh good heavens.

Trying to parallel this with the parable of the 10 virgins is such bad theology and as far as a reach as I’ve seen

Multiple Second Coming Visions in Revelation: (book not in chronological order ) Christ returns one time in the future. However, there are several different visions of His return shown from different perspectives in the Book of Revelation. Christ returns at the end of Revelation chapter 6, with signs in the sun, moon, and stars, as are found in the Olivet Discourse. Those at the end of the chapter are hiding from the wrath of the Lamb. Why would they be hiding if Christ is not present? The "kings", "captains", "might men", "free", and "bond" are also found in chapter 19 at the return of Christ. He returns at the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible, and the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="675">11:15</a>-18. The beginning of chapter 12 is a history lesson containing the fall of Satan, and the birth and death of Christ, who is the seed promised to crush the head of Satan in Genesis <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="195">3:15</a>. The Second Coming is found in the "harvest" of chapter 14, which is related to the parable of the wheat and tares in Matthew chapter 13. He comes as a thief at Armageddon, and we find the greatest earthquake in history in chapter 16. This occurs when the 7th angel pours out his vial. How powerful is an earthquake which moves islands and destroys the mountains? What is happening to the planet? He comes on a horse in chapter 19. Chapter 20? Does He come with the fire, and the judgment of the dead at the end of chapter 20, which agrees with what Paul said in 2 Thessalonians <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="67">1:7</a>-10, and 2 Timothy <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="241">4:1</a>? (The time of the judgment of the dead is also found in Revelation <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="678">11:18</a>.) There are no mortals left alive on the planet at the end of Matthew <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1531">25:31</a>-46. Why does an angel come down from heaven with a key to unlock the bottomless pit in Revelation <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="541">9:1</a>-2, if the pit was not already locked before that time? Are there wicked angels in the pit in Rev. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="551">9:11</a>? If the beast "ascends" from the pit in Rev. chapter 11, where was the beast before that time? Does your view agree with Peter in 2 Pet. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="124">2:4</a>, and Jude in Jude <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="66">1:6</a>, when they both said wicked angels are already in chains of darkness? Revelation <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="554">9:14</a> proves some of the angels were previously bound in some manner. Because the two witnesses were bodily resurrected from the dead in Revelation 11, the "first resurrection" at the beginning of Revelation 20 is not the first bodily resurrection in the book. The principle of "Recapitulation" means there are multiple visions of His return.

I agree with everything said except the Lord came back in 70 AD to destroy the temple. There is NOT one scripture that supports that. Yours in Christ

I think it would benefit us to stop using the word rapture since it is not biblical, instead it is just the action of catching up of believers taking place at the resurrection of the dead which is a biblical teaching. It's hard for any doctrine of the rapture to get around Jesus' words in John 6 of when he would raise "all" and "everyone". John <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="399">6:39</a> And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. John <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="400">6:40</a> And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. John <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="404">6:44</a> No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. John <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="414">6:54</a> Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. Martha confirms Jesus' teaching on the resurrection of the dead John <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="684">11:24</a> Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day. 1 Cor <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="950">15:50</a>-54 speaks about the resurrection of believers and that it would bring about the fulfillment of Isa <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1508">25:8</a> when death is totally defeated and no more. We see this at the judgement seat in Rev <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1214">20:14</a> and also Rev <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1264">21:4</a> at the end of time when all things are restored.

So from Joel’s take I guess he’s presupposing that Christ is gona touch down on US soil 😂

Oh my goodness is this what you call "rightly dividing" the word? This is hammering to fit and paint to match. One of the interesting things about your post mill theory is that you unfortunately cannot use history in your understanding of biblical truth. Most Christians take a look at 5000 years of human history to help them understand much of what the bible means by what it says. We don't see things to be "falling apart" we see them "falling into place" as we watch the world literally going to hell in a hand basket. You guys can't do that because all the history has no relation to your coming views of end times. The last 5000 years cannot be looked at as what will happen in the future because somehow everything is going to turn around. I don't know how long this will take. If it took 5000 years to get to this point maybe another 5000 years to stop this downward path and finally get to some kind of neutral place where in another 5000 years we can enter into this spiritual nirvana that you believe will usher in Christ's return. Humm and you somehow get this from rightly dividing the word?

For me, my Lord is Clear...Matthew Chapter 13 and John Chapter 6...verses 39-40, 44 and 54 kjv. Why would you NOT believe the Son of God? He can tell NO LIES! Last Day, The End and you preach something different....Why?

revelation <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="725">12:5</a> is the rapture so now you can rewrite all your post trib books lol

This is hilarious… WHAT A HERETIC

1 Thes. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="257">4:17</a>, "...will be *caught up* (Gk. ἁρπαγησόμεθα, harpagēsometha) together with them in the clouds..." Rev. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="725">12:5</a>, "...her child was *caught up* (Gk. ἡρπάσθη, hērpasthē) to God and to his throne..." Just like Jesus was RAPTURED UP to God and to His throne at His Ascension; so too will the Church be RAPTURED UP to Heaven at the 2nd Advent (this will begin the Millennium). The Millennium will take place with Christ and the Glorified Saints reigning IN HEAVEN; the earth will be completely void and desolate of all life during it, except for Satan and his angels who will be "bound" by a "chain" of circumstances where they cannot deceive anyone any longer, until after the 1,000 years when the wicked will be resurrected. Simple enough? Questions? Let me know. *Soli Deo Gloria*