The Presocratics and Republic 1, October 8 [second meeting]

Рет қаралды 26,407

8 ай бұрын

This lecture is about the world's first scientific revolution [Ionian physics] and its cultural consequences. This new science destabilized the polis and demanded a new response that was intellectually respectable in this new context. Socrates and Plato and Aristotle took up the challenge of creating a new rational monotheism that modified all of the human sciences.
Join me at 8 pm ET for a zoom discussion regarding this lecture. Link below:
Michael Sugrue is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
Topic: Michael Sugrue's Zoom Meeting
Time: Oct 8, 2023 07:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
Join Zoom Meeting
us02web.zoom.us/j/88438851481
Meeting ID: 884 3885 1481
---
One tap mobile
+13052241968,,88438851481# US
+19292056099,,88438851481# US (New York)
---
Dial by your location
• +1 305 224 1968 US
• +1 929 205 6099 US (New York)
• +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC)
• +1 309 205 3325 US
• +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)
• +1 646 931 3860 US
• +1 689 278 1000 US
• +1 719 359 4580 US
• +1 253 205 0468 US
• +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma)
• +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)
• +1 360 209 5623 US
• +1 386 347 5053 US
• +1 507 473 4847 US
• +1 564 217 2000 US
• +1 669 444 9171 US
• +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)
Meeting ID: 884 3885 1481
Find your local number: us02web.zoom.us/u/k42W4FnHw
Join this channel to get access to perks:
/ @dr.michaelsugrue
This is the official KZfaq channel of Dr. Michael Sugrue.
Please consider subscribing to be notified of future videos, as we upload Dr. Sugrue's vast archive of lectures.
Dr. Michael Sugrue earned his BA at the University of Chicago and PhD at Columbia University.

Пікірлер: 195

@robertkaplan2505 4 ай бұрын

You'll be missed very much. Maybe one day I can teach in such a thoughtful and humorous way, miss you man.

@sapientum8 27 күн бұрын

Thank you, professor. Rest in peace.

@neoepicurean3772 8 ай бұрын

I haven't listen to anything from Professor Sugrue for a long while. I'd forgotten how well he explains these things, and how engagingly too. A true gift that I am very thankful for receiving.

@vincentzevecke4578 7 ай бұрын

It has been a long time. He is very good lecturer

@laseryohanna 7 ай бұрын

Same here, very thankful PLUS hearing what he has to say recently. ❤

@clovers-zi5fe 8 ай бұрын

Read the Republic 10 times. I swear, I learn something new from it every time. BTW, looking strong and healthy, Professor. God bless.

@bulldog3512 5 ай бұрын

Please tell how your understanding has evolved, Ty!

@yafz 8 ай бұрын

A philosophy professor who dons a Laphroaig shirt, with the framed cover of Coltrane's Blue Train hanging on the wall, talking about Plato and presocratics. This is what I call quality education! Thanks! And cheers!

@iExamineLife 8 ай бұрын

Thanks again Mike, we are all very grateful for your time. Please take care and we look forward seeing you again next week 🙏🙏🙏

@hcironman9196 8 ай бұрын

*Cue Orchestral Music* Michael Sugrue is arguably one the most influential and accessible of 21st century Philosopher-Educators, and his lectures are certainly one of the great achievements of western culture.

@ttacking_you 8 ай бұрын

Yeah that jam that opens the older videos is crucial. I'm talking quite mellifluous. Dulcet. A club banger

@ttacking_you 8 ай бұрын

Yeah that jam it opens the older videos is crucial. it's quite mellifluous . A club banger. do you know that what it's called

@flappyturtlesnatch 3 ай бұрын

I just finished Dr. Sugrue's lecture on Plato's Gorgias. Absolutely unparalleled. The world is darker and grayer now that he's gone.

@von8311 8 ай бұрын

Imagine Dr. Sugrue narrating the Republic audiobook

@sarooz48 8 ай бұрын

You are a true blessing to us. Thank you Dr. Sugrue for your relentless contributions.

@intagliooglethorpe8434 8 ай бұрын

God bless you Dr. Sugrue, thank you for sharing your wisdom & the openness from your discussions w/Genevieve.

@lotharlamurtra7924 Ай бұрын

Grateful with your teaching. Very grateful.

@nsf001-3 8 ай бұрын

I've watched for a few years now and I wish I had this channel 20 years ago, since I've never seen presentations so effectively condense years of reading philosophy. These days I recommend this channel to anyone who's getting started with philosophy

@Guts364__ 8 ай бұрын

Even for those who aren't doing anything philosophy related should atleast listen to Prof. Sugrue's talks twice/thrice they'll get hooked up to it, i myself am doing my masters' in astrophysics yet I'm here rn at 3:35 am. & If you're observant, you'll see that mike teaches us a lot overall about our own humane psyche, the way he expresses his own thoughts vs actual facts, the way he delivers the specific point of his talk in each of his lectures etc. if i had to take one of his earlier lectures myself, 80% sure I wouldn't be able to analyze all these points in one go thank God for this channel and the constant uploads.

@tonywolfe9513 7 ай бұрын

You’re looking good, Mike. The brighter lights are a good choice. God bless you, man. You’ve brought a lot of joy to my life.

@MegaTeacherg 8 ай бұрын

Your look better micheal. Hope you are feeling well. Thank you for your videos and lectures you are a an amazing soul and mind

@floracash 8 ай бұрын

when the student is ready, the master shall appear. thanks professor. -cole

@fortunatomartino8549 8 ай бұрын

I've known Dr Sugrue since the late 1980's Still the best

@nethengwemakaveli1823 7 ай бұрын

@Michael sugrue i would love to here a lecture strictly on how to read a book Your abilities to recall information is great

@Grargsnir 8 ай бұрын

This guy is is awesome; If I may put it so colloquially .

@williammixson2541 8 ай бұрын

I feel like you are right here in the room. This is a fantastic format and I love every minute of it. Thank you so much Professor.

@user-zh7bn1cv6v 8 ай бұрын

Zeno asked, "if space is something, inside what it should be?" A Greek friend, Demetrios. Great professor Michael, many Greetings!

@mistry6292 8 ай бұрын

I've actually started reading the Republic thabks to you dr. Sugrue! Thanks for the years of education!

@jameslovell5721 8 ай бұрын

Super grateful for these lectures. Thank you professor Sugrue. I hope you are feeling well.

@yavarnikanjam7954 8 ай бұрын

I just began to watch you on this. I think you are right. Plato's Republic is the best book of all. I read for a few times. One of my greatest sorrows is that what he said is still applicable to our days. His theory of form has become a social contract. Their main argument had become public consent. And the astonishing definition of virtue. And above all Justice. yet he had played the sleight of hand. because the time was not right. .I finished with this. There are days that I contemplate that since the man had invented the wheel, he had been distracted by the noise. I think of the experience of the time that no intentional sound had ever been made. Wow. I know the level of being supposed to be inferior to us, but with the enjoyment of one's existence, I can not begin to think what it is like to not be distracted by distractions from distraction! That is why the form is what it is. The world is all that is the case. Form. ☺️

@brianmaguire6814 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for your ongoing service to humanity Mike. It is greatly needed and appreciated.

@isaacgarcia9323 8 ай бұрын

I was literally read Plato Republic 5 minutes ago! Coincidence 🤔 I think not !!! This will be a treat.

@txikitofandango 6 ай бұрын

How rare and refreshing it is to hear a teacher say, let me tell you about this awesome thing

@nsf001-3 8 ай бұрын

I'm not a PhD or formally educated on philosophy, so I can't describe it so eloquently, but I agree that Republic is one of the most important books in philosophy. Individuals may more highly value other texts, but Republic is so foundational to the realm of philosophy that you can't ignore it. Like how a quantum physicist couldn't deny the foundational importance of Newton. I like to read the writings of trailblazers in various fields, because seeing people trying to explain subjects without an established lexicon gives me a perspective that you can't get from working within established frameworks. I think in a lot of ways most of the "boom" in philosophy was from times where this was the case, most likely because there weren't any "rules" yet to limit people's thinking, so it's a good book to get people in the mindset of discovery, whether that's self-discovery or discovery of the external world

@rodfer5406 8 ай бұрын

I agree 100% on The Republic. Jist finished reading it

@sleepygrumpy 3 ай бұрын

What a great man...

@asdfghj678 8 ай бұрын

When we arrive at a wrong answer to a question, often that's the correct answer to a different question. I think Thrasymachus' assertion that justice is the advantage of the stronger, is on the basis that he believes justice and conflict to be the same thing. Peace is the advantage of the stronger. 2 * pi * r is the circumference of a circle. If you answer your math teacher with 3 * pi * r, they'll say WRONG. But the formula still calculates *something*, in this case, going 1.5x round a circle.

@drakeholliday5671 8 ай бұрын

Dr. Sugrue, in one of your videos these days, I’d love to hear your personal thoughts on what might serve as a better alternative to democracy.

@hollidayramblers7890 8 ай бұрын

Oh, my goodness. I'm just so grateful and happy that this man shares his expertise with the world. I enjoy every one of his lectures and I sure as heck wouldn't have access to this sort of intellectual stimulation way out here in the boonies. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!

@francisletterford4999 8 ай бұрын

Dr. Sugrue, thank you for positively impacting my philisophical journey

@jasoncherry3404 8 ай бұрын

I’ve been studying up in the pre-Socratics over last couple of years and I find some of their theories interesting. While they came up with ideas that we would find comical today because we have centuries worth of science to work with; these guys were literally inventing science and technology more or less out of necessity. It shows that even thousands of years ago people had intelligent ideas but struggled to find ways to make their theories fact. We as a society need to encourage individuals to ask questions and look for answers to those questions without taking everything at face value or simply accepting a tradition at face value without weighing it against the weight of Socratic inquiry.

@antonioportugal5987 7 ай бұрын

Thank you professor, we follow you from Bolivia. ❤

@mileskeller5244 8 ай бұрын

Brilliant preamble leading up to the republic.

@jovo9000 8 ай бұрын

WOW I am thrilled to stumble across this channel. What an absolute treasure. THANK YOU

@LoneStarRocker 8 ай бұрын

Excellent, a new video. I hope you’re doing well over there Michael. Your lectures have helped me immensely. Thank you!!

@samotdengode 8 ай бұрын

Never read it but excited to Learn. The English language is not my native one so it's great to be able to rewatch this over and over, excited for this journey Mr sugrue!

@FranAlbani 7 ай бұрын

You may enjoy the book "Infinite powers" from Steven Strogatz, in which its shown that Archimedes was a precursor of Newton and Leibnitz by using an infinite number of infinitesimal slices of areas and volumes counterbalancing in an "imaginary scale" to calculate things. He used this method to guess the answer and then proceded to prove it by "proper means" because he didn't considered it rigorous. Newton and Leibnitz proved Archimedes intuition right inventing calculus.

@bernardopalmer8846 7 ай бұрын

thanks for making philosophy accessible!

@AlbertAlbertB. 8 ай бұрын

You look better Professor, I am happy to see so.

@ebannaw 8 ай бұрын

Hello Professor, I've been enjoying your lectures and teachings for some time now. I'm in education myself (much lower level than yourself, mind you), and everyday it feels like I'm Sisyphus. Your teaching is one of the few things keeping me sane these days! As a request, I'd love to hear an unplugged talk from yourself, Darren, and Peter on the current conflicts going on in the world and how they're shaping history. That is to say, the Ukrainian Conflict and the escalating war in Israel/Palestine. I know you've mentioned the Ukraine war in previous talks, albeit briefly. I think such a talk would be most intriguing. Have a blessed day.

@johnnypingsmusic 8 ай бұрын

Thank you, Dr. Segrue

@shawnqueeney3186 8 ай бұрын

Thanks! Always ask a better question!

@stevenwaldon4469 8 ай бұрын

Laphroaig is my favorite. That is an absolutely wonderful shirt.

@luanloca6397 8 ай бұрын

I enjoyed every moment of it, thank you professor!

@mahonrimartins1767 8 ай бұрын

Wow... Dr. Sugrue is looking better, stronger and healthier. Great improvement in the video and audio quality as well. P.S.= nice shirt😂😂😂 Thanks a lot and congratulations!!!

@Specialty55 6 ай бұрын

Professor I began reading philosophy a few years ago because of you. Im so thankful for your videos. Many blessings and wish you all the best.

@khurrammoeen 8 ай бұрын

I am deeply grateful for the profound insights and knowledge I've gained from your KZfaq channel. Your philosophical teachings have been enlightening and enriching. However, I am intrigued by the absence of exploration into Islamic philosophy within your content. I believe integrating Islamic philosophical perspectives could further diversify and enhance the depth of philosophical discussions you provide. Thank you for the continuous inspiration and intellectual growth.

@Specialty55 6 ай бұрын

great recommendation

@reachadi1029 8 ай бұрын

Mr. Sugrue is the best!

@alexanderpeca7080 8 ай бұрын

Looking strong prof. Sugrue🥂 Thanks for the lecture. It's good to review the "roos" from time to time #presocratics

@Vampirat3 8 ай бұрын

Thank you Mr. Surgue. Timeless knowledge presented properly , thank you

@stephenwhite1372 8 ай бұрын

Thanks! Looking forward to the next episode!

@jamesboland1499 8 ай бұрын

So thankful for your wisdom sharing professor, I pray for your continued instruction, truly a privilege to know your work.

@patdainel9037 4 ай бұрын

Love that vase he swigs from

@iancarvalho6947 8 ай бұрын

Thank you mr sugrue.

@kerrymuir9891 8 ай бұрын

yay! Thank you so much :)

@dougiemarks9852 8 ай бұрын

Yaaas!!! A new one!!

@keithpharoah6110 6 ай бұрын

You are a gift to humanity thank you Mr. Sugrue

@ryans3001 8 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@DustinJCooper 8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@mercster 8 ай бұрын

Thank you sir.

@MaRia_986 8 ай бұрын

Thank you

@jamessheffield4173 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the lesson. Brilliant.

@waynevanrensburg8037 7 ай бұрын

Bloody marvellous

@cheri238 8 ай бұрын

I am listening, Dr. Sugre. ❤

@nancygottwald1940 8 ай бұрын

I'm hanging on every syllable! Wonderful to be here with you!!

@martinbowman1993 8 ай бұрын

Love it

@zootjitsu6767 8 ай бұрын

Let’s goo 💯💯💯

@jrashad 8 ай бұрын

Great

@mekbebtamrat817 8 ай бұрын

Thank you very much, Professor. It was very interesting as a talk. Keep them coming whenever you have the time.

@michaelbuckner9846 8 ай бұрын

As a survivor of religious abuse and literalism, I really appreciate you sharing the long tradition of questioning religious dogmatism. ‘1 question is worth more than ten answers’. I know we have never met but I love what you do and think you dwarf popular “intellectuals” like Jordan Peterson. I quote you daily. So keep up the great work! Stay enthusiastic! That’s my motto

@lynnfisher3037 Ай бұрын

I'm sure he would not have agreed with you about Jordan Petersen. Each was/is a specialist and expert in their field.

@lashropa 7 ай бұрын

Marvelous. Absolutely marvelous. Thank you. I could listen to these forever. 💫

@TraceCrutchfield 8 ай бұрын

thank you Professor. i appreciate this course work more than I can say; in the written word at least ;)

@leststoner 8 ай бұрын

Looking good

@user-yj8rf3mq4v 8 ай бұрын

Hi Michael, long time viewer and fan and really enjoyed this lectures as with all your others. Was wondering what your thoughts were on blooms western canon and the opinions he has on the newer schools of literary theory as I know you studied under him at some point. Hope all is well!

@tinfoilhatscholar 8 ай бұрын

Sophism: a reversion to "PPP, pure predatory parasitism"! Love it

@jakobschmidt2152 8 ай бұрын

Now I wonder what the good professor was drinking this time? Thank you for your work and time

@artlessons1 7 ай бұрын

Great, I have been following you for years. You are a gift to many. Where do I find the lectures in this series? Thanks!

@Sulla5279 8 ай бұрын

Love the Laphroaig!

@kaladin8081 8 ай бұрын

Great lecture as always, professor. Please, take a look to your emails, I sent you an srt with the spanish subtitles for your video about Saint Augustine some time ago.

@DonTheMoron716 7 ай бұрын

His voice is so deep.

@light1908 8 ай бұрын

I like to think of the Greeks turning the Goddess into a mathematized number, being the culmination of thought during that period, but perhaps also the fall into totalizing materialism.

@foultarnished7990 8 ай бұрын

Slàinte!

@deathsheadknight2137 8 ай бұрын

there's a sign near my neighborhood that says that. I feel insulted every time I have to read such a gross word.

@rodfer5406 8 ай бұрын

Pythagoras… the main presocratic influence, without a doubt

@alstewart3540 7 ай бұрын

I love how much he loves plato

@anthenehbeze. 4 ай бұрын

RIP professor 😢😢😢

@davidconroy8554 8 ай бұрын

New higher concepts

@trent797 7 ай бұрын

Great lecture. Is there a place to find a list of the extra readings?

@syedmehdi8793 5 ай бұрын

The Guru of Philosophy, Mr Sugrue, I have been listening to your enlightening lectures over the last few years, trying to understand philosophy emanating from the western civilization, encapsulating the real world we experience today. There are 2 lectures I am missing in your collection available on youtube, one was on the FORM idea of Plato, and the criticism of it, and there was another lecture given on Parmenides. They are no longer available on youtube, these were the lectures when you were very young and handsome, and was wearing a Khaki jacket. I hope you know which lectures i am talking about. Please upload them if you have them, because they are the Gem of GEMS. God Bless you.

@avfn8981 8 ай бұрын

nice shirt 👌

@iw2356 8 ай бұрын

Ah darn I missed the boat! Is there a schedule for the Plato classes?

@davidconroy8554 8 ай бұрын

If we can agree that everything is energy, everything is one.

@straightballin172 7 ай бұрын

👍🏼

@PhildoBaggins 8 ай бұрын

I need that Laphroaig shirt

@johncracker5217 4 ай бұрын

It’s a fascinating possibility that being is…

@grapeshott 7 ай бұрын

Permenides' philosophy reminds me of Advaita Vedanta

@Laocoon283 8 ай бұрын

38:00 the book of judges explains this cyclical sociological phenomenon of the ever changing balance of belief and unbelief. "And everyone did what was right in their own eyes."