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The Prestige (2006) | First Time Watching | Movie Reaction
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Introduction: 0:00 - 3:47
Reaction: 3:48 - 52:32
Discussion/Review: 52:33 - 1:17:46
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@SpartanandPudgey
@SpartanandPudgey Ай бұрын
WOW! Nolan has done it again with yet another mind blowing movie This will leave us thinking for a while.. Want to watch 4 weeks EARLY and access our UNCUT reactions? AND Vote for what Movie we watch next over on Patreon! www.patreon.com/spartanandpudgey
@r1ck00sharma
@r1ck00sharma Ай бұрын
Fantastic movie! It is even better when you watch it again, so many lines of dialogue have a different meaning!
@L0stwitn0nam3
@L0stwitn0nam3 Ай бұрын
Great reaction. Yes, its a twin. Spartan is spot on. Robert was driven by obsession. He paid homage to his dead wife by drowning and not knowing which he would be. Bordin didn't know because the twin who did it said it was the normal knot, but the other twin swears there's no way it must have been the other knot. Which is why he doesn't know because he doesn't know if his twin was lying or not. His twin is still a person, despite playing the same person. Its like you both are playing spartan, but pudgy might do something only pudgy know. And now spartan need to believe pudgy. He's supposed to represent Tesla and Edison. Alot of people know Edison discredited Tesla and took some of his work. Its supposed to be the direct parallel to Robert and batman, how they both love the science (magic) but copied and sabotaged each other. It was only later in society Tesla was acknowledged as genius but during the time, everyone thought he was crazy.
@viper2785
@viper2785 29 күн бұрын
If you guys ever do a rewatch reaction, this would be the movie to do it.
@hero4life15
@hero4life15 Ай бұрын
The second time watching this movie is SO much better than the first. The boy at the beginning watching the bird die in the magic trick. “Where’s his brother?” The boy gave the whole movie right there
@MR2GR
@MR2GR Ай бұрын
Also, it showed the bird that dies falling through a trap door into the table for that early magician's trick... just like Angeir falling through the stage and dying for his trick.
@Trepanation21
@Trepanation21 Ай бұрын
Ironically, The Prestige is the time that knowing the secret (repeat watches) makes it better. The movie just blossoms on a rewatch.
@lirpa2300
@lirpa2300 10 күн бұрын
Not just that but they literally went out and found a "twin" at the bar to do the trick with Angier. Had they continued to work with that guy and sobered him up, Angier wouldn't have had to go to Tesla. But of course, that would have been too simple and like Cutter said, you want to be fooled.
@austindmilligan
@austindmilligan Ай бұрын
Now you know why Bordens moods change a lot, because it’s literally 2 different people!
@seth.willis.
@seth.willis. Ай бұрын
He sent him to Tesla to bankrupt him, Bordon didn't expect that Tesla could actually make a machine that could do "something" like his trick. That was an accident, a coincidence, which was why Bordon was caught off guard and couldn't figure out his trick.
@aaronbeatdown
@aaronbeatdown Ай бұрын
Which also wasn't a lie, he did use a Tesla design in his trick, but it's just there as spectacle.
@sovex9331
@sovex9331 Ай бұрын
I don't think Tesla's machine was working, he was just using his double - and ended up sacrificing it to frame his own death.
@wendellwiggins3776
@wendellwiggins3776 28 күн бұрын
@@sovex9331 I wish that had been it because I didn't like the addition of using a real historical character but having him create a FICTIONAL SCI-FI device. It was contradictory and a too easy solution for a plot twist.
@khagapatibisoi3835
@khagapatibisoi3835 Ай бұрын
Pudgey, stop overthinking. Spartan is right. Christian Bale character had a twin
@wendellwiggins3776
@wendellwiggins3776 28 күн бұрын
I hate to say this, but women more often overthink things in general
@krakenbutt
@krakenbutt 16 күн бұрын
@@wendellwiggins3776 Lol I know so many men overthinking but they talk about it less than women because it's not considered "manly".
@blackwater6146
@blackwater6146 6 күн бұрын
christian bales character did actually have a duplicate, not a twin. Because Tesla had made a machine for him in the past, as Angier mentions. Thats why his diary keyword was Tesla. Either way, all of Nolans films are ambiguous. So it’s not overthinking 😂
@blackwater6146
@blackwater6146 6 күн бұрын
@@wendellwiggins3776 post an opinion without being a huge mysogynist challenge ~impossible~
@wendellwiggins3776
@wendellwiggins3776 6 күн бұрын
@@blackwater6146 I thought Tesla hadn't perfected the duplication for Bale. And even from the start there were clues and suggestions of a twin
@austindmilligan
@austindmilligan Ай бұрын
The scene with Borden and the little boy with the bird is a very important scene! It basically explains the plot and twist of the movie which is why Borden says to the kid (us the audience) “are you watching closely”
@bigdream_dreambig
@bigdream_dreambig Ай бұрын
12:41 "Surely you'd make the glass more easily breakable?!" Water is hella heavy, so the glass has to be strong enough to hold it without collapsing.
@Riddler0603
@Riddler0603 Ай бұрын
What I don't understand. Why, is there no way to open this thing from the outside? Obviously, there is a way to open it from the inside, so she can escape. So why can't it be open from the outside in case of such an emergency? Never made sense to me.
@EchanteDante
@EchanteDante Ай бұрын
@@Riddler0603I mean they weren’t exactly up to OSHA code back then sooo just go with it 🤷‍♂️
@Riddler0603
@Riddler0603 Ай бұрын
@@EchanteDante Had to google that (not from the US). But that's not what I meant. Why can this hatch be opened from the inside, but not from the outside? And Michael Caine's character was caring about safety and stuff, hence the discussion about the knot. And this is a dangerous trick, where many things can go wrong. I just find it hard to believe, that they wouldn't make sure, they can get the person out of that canister quickly, whenever something isn't working as planned. Even back in the days. Maybe it's a little thing and not important, but for me that scene was never really believable.
@bigdream_dreambig
@bigdream_dreambig Ай бұрын
​@Riddler0603 You're right, to a point. We can't ascribe Cutter's action to raw panic. He was standing there with a stopwatch and an axe, so clearly this was the predetermined backup plan. However, I believe he followed that plan without thinking and was working on bad assumptions. The axe is an all-purpose "get her out of there ASAP," but it wasn't a fast enough solution. They may have never tested it so they may have been assuming it would be quicker than it was -- or maybe it worked fine in a calm test, but here she was panicking so didn't have as much breathing time. As for opening the device from the outside being more effective, they could absolutely have done that, but only because in this situation WE know that the failure was in not getting her hands free from the rope. The trick lock would have still functioned fine -- but they didn't know that. Trying to open that wasn't part of the emergency procedure because they didn't want to waste time trying to open a mechanism that may have been the point of failure. I'm sure that, in hindsight, they would change the procedure so one man tries the lock while another simultaneously starts whacking with the axe.
@uggggggghhhhh
@uggggggghhhhh Ай бұрын
also, the water creates a suction effect and seals up the same way a car underwater would
@cmn8777
@cmn8777 Ай бұрын
"No one cares about the secret" "Once you know it's actually pretty obvious" This movie is true about this two statements in magic, but totally subverts them in the context of the movie itself. Once you know the secret it actually gets more interesting to rewatch, to pick all the (countless) clues and foreshadows they leave along the way. Just brilliant
@bigted6351
@bigted6351 Ай бұрын
This film is so good man. Every time I rewatch it with people the twist seems so obvious to me, and no one I’ve ever watched it with has caught it.
@Jamie__1
@Jamie__1 Ай бұрын
Of course it will seem obvious when you rewatch it, the question is did it seem obvious the first time you watched it, i've watched this movie so many times i can no longer remember which plot twists i saw coming, i like to believe i foresaw most of them but then when you are truly immersed watching a movie you probably 'aren't really looking' and are instead being misdirected by Nolan's script
@uggggggghhhhh
@uggggggghhhhh Ай бұрын
Yeah, I was watching this in suspense thinking they were going to get it before it was revealed bc its so obvious but thats what makes the twist so good. They give you enough for it to make sense in hindsight but not enough to guess it right away during the first watch. The little boy crying "wheres his brother?" the wife saying "you dont mean it today" & "i know what you are" "hugh jackman having a clone, the cloned cats & hats, etc
@bigted6351
@bigted6351 Ай бұрын
@@uggggggghhhhh exactly. On rewatch it’s so satisfying, fallon is so “obviously” Bale and all the hints throughout the film. Always expect people to catch it but no one does. I think people expect it to be more complicated so that idea goes over their heads. They “want to be fooled”
@sam04019491
@sam04019491 Ай бұрын
It’s rare to see Spartan out shining Pudgey here, but Spartan is on fire with this movie and Pudgey is a bit slow today.
@benjaminh.morgan3193
@benjaminh.morgan3193 Ай бұрын
Regarding the knot, I suspect the twin who tied the fatal knot would never willingly admit to it, and the twin who didn’t would genuinely not know. So it makes sense that either twin would answer “I don’t know.”
@khagapatibisoi3835
@khagapatibisoi3835 Ай бұрын
9:36 Christian Bale's character figured it out easily because he was also living his trick his whole life
@sybren4922
@sybren4922 Ай бұрын
Cutter lied originally when he said drowning is like going home when Robert Angier's wife drowned to try and comfort him. But later, when Cutter realized how Angier did his clone-act, he thought it was wrong and had to be honest and say drowning is agony.
@IDiggPattyMayonnaise
@IDiggPattyMayonnaise 29 күн бұрын
Cutter didn't tell him the truth because he thought it was wrong to hide it. He finally told him the truth about drowning because he realized Angier was a bad person for letting Borden hang and wanted to make sure Angier knew drowning would be a painful death. Cutter sided with Borden in the end.
@CrispyChips007
@CrispyChips007 28 күн бұрын
durr
@aperson4640
@aperson4640 Ай бұрын
One thing you guys perhaps did not realize is that Angier was always Lord Caldlow, even before he became a magician. He was secretly moonlighting as a magician the whole time.
@lirpa2300
@lirpa2300 10 күн бұрын
Well, that's even worse than because if he was secretly moonlighting as a magician aka having a somewhat double life as well, then the twin theory shouldn't have been such a ridiculous concept to him.
@sam04019491
@sam04019491 Ай бұрын
Pudgey is the only person who doesn’t understand the twist even when it’s been explained. That’s because she was talking over the line “…a brother, a twin…”.
@uggggggghhhhh
@uggggggghhhhh Ай бұрын
to be fair, theres a lot going on in the story. when theres a big plot twist, theyll add a lot of distractions
@IDiggPattyMayonnaise
@IDiggPattyMayonnaise 29 күн бұрын
​@@uggggggghhhhhExcept the twin brother twist was like the last 20mins of the movie. The repeat it over and over that's the trick is, there is no trick. Its just two brothers
@YouOnlyIiveTwice
@YouOnlyIiveTwice Ай бұрын
One of my favorite movies. Even after knowing the twist, it's still just as enjoyable to rewatch.
@johnmiller7682
@johnmiller7682 Ай бұрын
He sent Angier to Tesla as a misdirection. But Tesla was actually able to build the cloning machine. That's why Borden was shocked that Angier was still alive.
@HanselLeiderhosen
@HanselLeiderhosen Ай бұрын
Prestige is the best story the Nolan brothers has done in his career.
@janellelives5158
@janellelives5158 Ай бұрын
Underrated Nolan film
@ccchhhrrriiisss100
@ccchhhrrriiisss100 Ай бұрын
Well, I place it on par or just behind INTERSTELLAR.
@IDiggPattyMayonnaise
@IDiggPattyMayonnaise 29 күн бұрын
​@@janellelives5158Not at all, a lot of people have seen this and it's reviewed quite well. Its very appropriately rated. "Underrated" would be momento which not many people have seen or even know is a Nolan film.
@austindmilligan
@austindmilligan Ай бұрын
It’s a movie that’s definitely requires a second and third watch! Fun to see the pieces moving and put in place now that you know the twist
@jordanwright1061
@jordanwright1061 Ай бұрын
The best thing about this movie is that, like some magic tricks, it's just as enjoyable the second time around when you know what to look for.
@austindmilligan
@austindmilligan Ай бұрын
Guys!! I’ve been saying this movie is literally the greatest movie of all time! The twist and turns this movie takes you through is so incredible! The movie itself is an actual making trick. When Borden says throughout the movie, “are you watching closely ?” He’s literally asking us as the audience to pay attention because the movie requires it. Entangling the mess with your brain! Christian Bale and Hugh Jackman deserved Oscar’s for this work and this is Christopher Nolan’s best film in my opinion! 11/10 perfect!
@donnieboughton1730
@donnieboughton1730 Ай бұрын
Far from the best movie of all time. Your opinion isn't fact...
@donnieboughton1730
@donnieboughton1730 Ай бұрын
So there is no movie you think is better this??? Ever???
@austindmilligan
@austindmilligan Ай бұрын
@@donnieboughton1730 well I could say the same about yours…. My OPINION, is that this is the best movie I’ve seen! And Ive seen a shit ton of movies lol
@diavolo007
@diavolo007 Ай бұрын
@@austindmilliganLmaoo…seeing shit ton of movies and claiming this s the greatest one just show how low your intelligence is…
@pfang32
@pfang32 Ай бұрын
​@austindmilligan couldn't agree more. When people state Your Opinion...with their opinion, it's like are you dense? That is the whole point of any comment saying what one thinks...it is always your opinion..jfc
@ravensdark99
@ravensdark99 Ай бұрын
What I like best about the movie is (beside David Bowie) that is shows what a good actor Hugh Jackman is..he is often only reduced to the Wolverine thing and people forget what a great actor..and even waaaaay greater stage broadway performer that guy is. That guy won Tonys for a reason
@Trepanation21
@Trepanation21 Ай бұрын
I feel like only people under 30 think of Jackman as reduced to Wolverine. He's been in so many great roles, put in so many excellent performances, but they're nowhere near the same wheelhouse as Wolverine so the mainstream younger demographics probably don't crossover into his other films too much.
@ravensdark99
@ravensdark99 Ай бұрын
@@Trepanation21 His stage performances are nuts..I would argue that the whole movie thing is great, but you should always watch him on stage because then he raises it to a whole other level
@Eagle3302PL
@Eagle3302PL Ай бұрын
@@Trepanation21 Even as Wolverine, in Logan he smashes it.
@andreicanlapan923
@andreicanlapan923 Ай бұрын
57:30 one of the twins actually know which knot was tied. However, Robert asked the wrong Borden twin that’s why he said “I didn’t know”. Obviously the second twin should follow that line to not get caught and keep up the act.
@johnplaysgames3120
@johnplaysgames3120 Ай бұрын
I don't think Sarah knew that her husband was twins, she was just able to read him/them well enough to sense when it was Alfred (he was sincere in his love for her) and when it was Fallon (he was just playing the part). That's why she thought he was having an affair, etc. I'm unclear whether she figured out his/their secret by the end, but it kind of sounded like she did. And can you imagine? You suddenly discover that half the time you've spent in a relationship with your partner, it's actually been their sibling pretending to be them. And how far did that go in private? Like, did they kiss? Sleep together? Change, shower, etc in front of one another? That realization would be horrible and feel like such a violation. The part about Angier not knowing if it was him who would die is always an interesting subject. I've seen a lot of people theorize that it's a 50/50 chance whether he teleports or drops into the tank and he never knows which it'll be, but I actually think it's simpler than that. No matter how many times you do the trick, the guy who comes out the other door will NEVER have fallen into the tank and drowned (or else he wouldn't be coming out the other door). He would have the memories of walking into the first door and coming out the second door every time. The problem is that nobody knows how the machine actually works: Is the first Angier being teleported to the second door and leaving a clone in his place to drop and drown, or is the first Angier dropping into the tank every night while a clone appears at the second door? For Angier, that uncertainty means that each time he does the trick, he doesn't know if he's always walking into an agonizing death, leaving a copy (who has never experienced death) to take over for him until the next performance, when that clone then drowns and a new clone takes over for the previous clone, over and over and over. Personally, I suspect that the machine leaves the original in place and creates a copy a short distance away, meaning that Angier is having one final performance every night, each one capped off by a horrible drowning death. That's his sacrifice for the trick. That's the "cost" Tesla refers to when he advises him to destroy the machine. Every night, Angier has to be entering that trick thinking, "Am I about to experience dying?" That would be rough. Is he murdering his clones night after night, or is he experiencing a never ending string of self un-alivings? An extra irony is that, if it's the second choice, then the Angier that starts the trick never gets to experience the audience applauding (the same problem he had when he tried to use the double) because he's too busy drowning. On the subject of Thomas Edison: Edison was a businessman who reportedly wasn't afraid of getting his hands dirty and stealing some patents to be known as the most successful inventor (in kind of a parallel with our main characters, who were each willing to get their hands dirty and steal tricks to be the best magician), but a lot of the animosity between Tesla and Edison is myth. Tesla actually worked for Edison's company for a while, eventually quitting because he wasn't being listened to and he got screwed out of a promise $50,000 for improving Edison's dynamos. Apparently, after he made the improvements, he was told that the $50k was just a "practical joke" and he was instead offered a $10/week raise. Later, Edison was working on DC electricity but it had the problem of there not being any infrastructure to transfer it long distances, meaning electricity would be limited to cities. Tesla, on the other hand, was working on AC electricity, which could be transferred long distances - making it available to everyone - but had a reputation for being dangerous (another parallel to the movie?) and starting fires. Tesla worked to show that AC was not actually dangerous and could benefit everyone, but Edison - who was heavily invested in DC - did everything he could to discredit Tesla, including trying to put the stink on AC by holding demonstrations in which he would electrocute animals (there's famous footage of one of Edison's demonstrations where he electrocutes an elephant, which, for me, is enough reason to think of Edison as a dick). One of Tesla's labs did burn down (not sure if it was the Colorado Springs lab or the NY one), but there's no evidence that Edison was behind it like in the movie. Supposedly, the fire started in a dry-cleaning business downstairs from Tesla's lab, possibly from the cigarette of a careless security guard. Of course, history is full of stories that are told by the victor so it's totally possible that Edison was behind it and did it to sabotage Tesla's work with AC, radio, etc. For now, that's just a conspiracy theory that gets tossed around though. Either way, after the fire, Edison let Tesla use his labs to continue his work, so that would actually be a point in Edison's favor (unless he was just trying to keep him close so he could see what he was up to and steal some inventions). Originally, Tesla idolized Edison. He even said about meeting him: "The meeting with Edison was a memorable event in my life. I was amazed at this wonderful man who, without early advantages and scientific training, had accomplished so much." But, over time, the two men grew to not like each other very much because they were both very smart-but-egocentric guys who didn't like other egocentric people. Plus, Tesla was a germophobe and Edison was reportedly not super clean. According to Tesla's autobiography: "[Edison] had no hobby, cared for no sort of amusement of any kind and lived in utter disregard of the most elementary rules of hygiene." Another thing Tesla said about Edison in his autobiography: "His method was inefficient in the extreme, for an immense ground had to be covered to get anything at all unless blind chance intervened and, at first, I was almost a sorry witness of his doings, knowing that just a little theory and calculation would have saved him 90% of the labour. But he had a veritable contempt for book learning and mathematical knowledge, trusting himself entirely to his inventor's instinct and practical American sense." So, I'm not sure that the stuff in the movie was based off of Edison stealing the lightbulb from someone so much as it was just sort of a play on the mythology of Tesla (who is built up as an almost magical, almost alien super genius by fanbois who believe his work was suppressed by the government for being too advanced, etc) and a possibly exaggerated version of Edison's ruthlessness and willingness to steal other people's work, combined with a sprinkling of their eventual dislike for one another and the competition between their competing forms of electricity.
@ShinNorimaro
@ShinNorimaro Ай бұрын
Great breakdown. Loved the explanations.
@deek60819
@deek60819 Ай бұрын
Yep that's why she was surprised when he told her he decided to buy the place. Her previous conversation with the twin (who wasn't in love with her) he had said it was a bad idea
@darkglass1
@darkglass1 Ай бұрын
“They are all your hat.” There was no primary or secondary edition. No original versus clone. Each are equally Angier.
@thatlittlespider
@thatlittlespider Ай бұрын
Oh, and Alfred Borden wrote in the diary that he argued with himself over and over about what knot he tied. Knowing that they are twins, he was actually arguing with his twin brother about what knot the brother tied. Meaning, Angier was reading the diary of the one who didn't tie the knot. After he tied the knot and they argued, for whatever reason, probably shame, the twin brother never admitted what knot he tied. So the other twin didnt actually know.
@jkvinsland
@jkvinsland 29 күн бұрын
And in the first scene where Angier is reading it, it says "We were two young men at the start of a great career. Two young men devoted to an illusion. Two young men who never intended to hurt anyone." Borden wasn't talking about himself and Angier, he was talking about himself and his twin.
@Jumpman67
@Jumpman67 Ай бұрын
For the amount of times they said the word Cutler, you'd think there was actually a guy in the movie named Cutler haha.
@lindsaysmith4208
@lindsaysmith4208 Ай бұрын
I think you guys might have missed at the end where Alfred says to Angier “We each loved one of them. He loved Olivia, I loved Sarah.” Basically confirming that the twin who died was kind of the shittier twin who was yelling at Sarah constantly, cheating with Olivia and most likely not the father of the little girl.. also the one who snuck backstage to see Angiers trick..
@evatesche
@evatesche Ай бұрын
13:33 "Which knot did you tie?" "I don't know" Cause he doesn't know, it is the other brother, the one that wasn't on stage that night ;-)
@uggggggghhhhh
@uggggggghhhhh Ай бұрын
why did i just figure that out today.. omg. what a great movie
@canceltheapocalypse8190
@canceltheapocalypse8190 Ай бұрын
The clone is identical to the original at the time they split. So the clone knows what the original knows, which is why he knows he’s about to die. It also means the original knows he’s killing himself over and over again. Whether the clone or the original dies, it’s the same person. Rick and Morty did an amazing episode about this called The Vat of Acid Episode.
@braincruser
@braincruser Ай бұрын
51:04 "They are all your hat" - Tesla They both are the real Angier.
@kevincastro8617
@kevincastro8617 Ай бұрын
Thank you for saying this. So many people ask “which one is the real one?” They’re BOTH the real Angier with the same personality, memories, etc. It’s a hard concept to grasp, but that’s what it is. There is no more distinction between “original” and “clone”. Just that one gets killed and the other survives
@Lilithly
@Lilithly Ай бұрын
We know that but as viewers we got to know one particular one, so we want to know which one he is. Even if all the hats are the same, if you keep wearing the same one it'll have more meaning to you than the others.
@Eagle3302PL
@Eagle3302PL Ай бұрын
@@kevincastro8617 Yes, they're identical, but either one is the original and another is a clone or they're both half clone. The machine has to construct a copy, there's simply not enough matter to make 2 people otu of 1 person, one of them has to be made by the machine, or they both are partly original, partly made.
@todd8398
@todd8398 27 күн бұрын
This. Angier isn't "cloning" so much as he is "copypasting".
@kevincastro8617
@kevincastro8617 27 күн бұрын
@@Lilithly when the machine is turned on, does it matter if the “original” is the one that stays in the same place or if the “original” is transported and a copy is left in his place? we don’t know but if you could interview each of them, they will both say they’re the original. Which means they’re both the original. That was the whole point for that line by Tesla saying “they’re all your hats”
@darthkyren3676
@darthkyren3676 Ай бұрын
Y’all overthinking it, the end was Kane talking to us the audience saying we don’t want to see the truth(the horror and sacrifice) we want to be fooled and awed by the “magic”. Borden was twin brothers Danton was clones
@julianapostate6534
@julianapostate6534 Ай бұрын
clones explanation betrays the spirit of the movie, there are decent explanations on reddit that Danton's victory was convincing borden that cloning was the trick
@YouAreTheWeather
@YouAreTheWeather Ай бұрын
⁠@@julianapostate6534 None of those explanations make any sense with what's shown in the film, let alone the novel.
@Eagle3302PL
@Eagle3302PL Ай бұрын
@@julianapostate6534 The spirit of the movie is not magic and tricks, the spirit of the movie is showing how obsession blinds people, how it makes them make awful decisions and how it makes them overthink things so they can't see the answer right in front of them. People overthinking the movie are literally going against the spirit of it, they learn nothing from it. And that's what the ending dialogue is, it mocks the sort of audience members who try to look beyond and overthink the plot, ones obsessing over the magic instead of the people, the plot that was neatly wrapped up and was about people.
@eschiedler
@eschiedler Ай бұрын
The magician on stage during the rope knot scene is Ricky Jay, RIP, doing a cameo and did consulting on the movie to get the historical look and feel right for how theater magic was performed. He was a great historian and performer of the craft in his own right, a nice touch to see him there.
@remyrimmm3123
@remyrimmm3123 Ай бұрын
What's funny about this movie is that its telling you plain and simple what the brothers are doing, how the trick is done and all that. But ''YOU WANT TO BE FOOLED'' which they say at the beginning and at the end. It really fascinates me how Nolan(s) created this story knowing that the audience would constantly (almost like Robert) look for the trick, or for clues, when really it was right there in front of us the whole time.
@tattycakes2k2
@tattycakes2k2 Ай бұрын
When you realise that Angier could have made just one clone and then done exactly the same thing as Borden and just taken it in turns, but his avarice in wanting to be on stage for every reveal and not the man in the box, so he commits murder every night…
@6kembe4orba
@6kembe4orba Ай бұрын
He could do that but the reason you've given is not the only one. I think of it as the 4th reason. The major reasons are these (but not only): 1st - it's highly disturbing what Tesla/him as a magician accomplished with the machine. It's not natural and that's why he immediately shot the 1st duplicate (or his duplicate shot him). Sidenote: it doesn't matter who shot who cause essentially it's the same thing cause they are both the same man. 2nd - He already was discovered and mocked for using a double by his very enemy/opponent before. So leaving one of them alive would mean he could be exposed again. Hence "I win cause my trick is the best one" during the jail visitation scene. 3rd - He found some solace in dying the same way every night as his wife (as a form of punishment/purgatory) - inferred from the failed suicide attempts/punishment scene with the sink after her death. That's at least true until the moment of drowning, which was not like "going home" but "agony" as revealed at the end, hence why the one drowning was asking for help. The other that lived/the prestige went one continuing to think of it as peaceful way to go every time. 4th - what you said. I found the cloning part of the film very disturbing. It's very Lovecraftian + coupled with his ambition and used very well as juxtaposition film technique to the "natural"/twins way. Don't get how, in this instance Spartan & Pudgey + some other aren't so disturbed by it.
@tattycakes2k2
@tattycakes2k2 Ай бұрын
@@6kembe4orba a very thorough and thoughtful analysis! Sometimes you can miss or misremember parts of the film when you’re watching a truncated reaction version, I need to watch it properly again 😅
@melaniekay3647
@melaniekay3647 Ай бұрын
Also, he was hell-bent on taking his revenge on Borden, so he set it all up knowing that Borden would eventually come and sneak backstage and be framed for his murder. I think that was a huge motive as well
@thebirdcatcher1
@thebirdcatcher1 Ай бұрын
​@@melaniekay3647that's the only motive
@IDiggPattyMayonnaise
@IDiggPattyMayonnaise 29 күн бұрын
It wasn't about his avarice... He didn't want a clone. His whole goal was to frame Borden for "his" murder. And he didn't know when Borden would show up, so he just needed to keep doing the trick until he finally framed him. Everyone knew that they had a long time feud and would believe it.
@redvulpa1324
@redvulpa1324 Ай бұрын
Easily one of Nolan’s greatest films.
@marcota9461
@marcota9461 Ай бұрын
The greatest one is Memento
@IDiggPattyMayonnaise
@IDiggPattyMayonnaise 29 күн бұрын
One of his greatest? You're talking about a direct with blockbuster after blockbuster after blockbuster. Critical acclaim after critical acclaim after critical acclaim. Oppenheimer, Inception, Interstellar, Dunkirk, Momento, Insomnia, TDK... Besides Tenet thats all he makes are great films
@JPWick
@JPWick Ай бұрын
When I saw this in the theater, before Christian Bale's character hangs, I whispered to myself, "Abracadabra," feeling that's what I would say in contempt. Hearing the delivery sent chills down my spine. Nolan is brilliant.
@TheJerbol
@TheJerbol Ай бұрын
I just love the idea of having the senior citizen in charge of smashing the glass with the axe. GIVE IT TO HER HUSBAND WOLVERINE
@redvulpa1324
@redvulpa1324 Ай бұрын
You guys didn’t catch that David Bowie is the actor who plays Tesla.
@Wraiven22
@Wraiven22 Ай бұрын
They probably don’t know who David Bowie even is tbh 🫠
@TheJerbol
@TheJerbol Ай бұрын
For most people under 40 he's not exactly the most recognizable face
@darkglass1
@darkglass1 Ай бұрын
Yeah, these two are just kids. Most likely born in the 21st Century. No idea who Iggy Stardust was.
@Wraiven22
@Wraiven22 Ай бұрын
@@darkglass1 pretty sure they’re about my age, I’m 29. My parents are just young Gen X and raised me with the classics 🤷🏻‍♂️ Labyrinth was one of my favorite movies growing up
@orphanedhanyou
@orphanedhanyou Ай бұрын
They didn't catch Golem either
@1HalfbloodPrince
@1HalfbloodPrince Ай бұрын
Spartan, I love your face when ever pudgey goes on one of her silent giggle fits , amazing 😂❤
@TheDaringPastry1313
@TheDaringPastry1313 Ай бұрын
9:26 Them talking about the old man getting into the carriage with the fishbowl foreshadows the big reveal of the whole movie and I missed it my first time through. Bird scene, that's his brother. 19:26 Voice and mo-cap actor for Gollum / Sméagol I don't know which knot. I'm pregnant, oh my Go... we should have told Fallon I love you, not today Finger bleeding again Just some of them and it's crazy how all this is put in front of the audience within the first of the movie.
@Hopehubris1492
@Hopehubris1492 Ай бұрын
Also. There’s soooooo many great things in this movie you can find a new one every time. I didn’t realize until this watch that the scene at the very beginning, where Michael Caine is explaining the three phases of a trick, it is literally the moment before Borden walks in at the end and his daughter sees him. Genius movie.
@infiniteethernal
@infiniteethernal Ай бұрын
I love how the end says that the viewer doesn't want to understand it and how they want to be fooled and pudgy and spartan immediately say they don't get it and think there's something more that they're missing (like in a magic trick)
@jonathanimler9745
@jonathanimler9745 Ай бұрын
I’ve watched this movie dozens of times and the more you watch it the more you realize Nolan is constantly telling you the answer but has you focus on something else. Also, there is a good twin and a bad twin! The bad twin is hung and the good twin reunited with his daughter.
@petertb90
@petertb90 7 күн бұрын
The best reaction in the video occurs before the film even starts. Spartan's reaction is gold, well done pre-empting him Pudgey! 😂
@jonathanimler9745
@jonathanimler9745 Ай бұрын
In my opinion this is the most well written and directed movie I’ve ever seen. There are no plot holes! It’s so intricate it’s mind blowing. Even the main characters initials spell out ABRA(CADABRA) Alfred Borden & Robert Angier
@thesenate9455
@thesenate9455 Ай бұрын
I never understand how no one can tell that its christian bale as the brother earlier. I remember when I first watched this in a cabin with friends years ago, the first time I saw him I noticed and we figured out it had to be a relative
@treg5298
@treg5298 8 күн бұрын
Not being familiar or familiar enough with the actor would make it easy enough not to know. That's how it was for me back then.
@kylegacy
@kylegacy 6 күн бұрын
“We were two young men at the start of a great career. Two young men devoted to an illusion. Two young men who never intended to hurt anyone." - Alfred wasn't referring to himself and Angier here, but to himself and his brother. Such subtle yet quite inspired writing.
@ian3314
@ian3314 Ай бұрын
This was so fun. Thanks guys! You both were on top form in this one.
@HanselLeiderhosen
@HanselLeiderhosen Ай бұрын
The whole movie is a magic trick that follows the structure set forth in the beginning of the movie. Very good story telling device!
@MotelsonMars
@MotelsonMars Ай бұрын
If you are interested in the backstory about Tesla, The Current War is a 2017 biographical drama film about the rivalry between Thomas Edison, Nikola Tesla, and George Westinghouse over which electrical system would power the United States in the 1880s. The film stars Benedict Cumberbatch as Edison, Michael Shannon as Westinghouse, and Nicholas Hoult as Tesla.
@smackyay
@smackyay Ай бұрын
Spartan (chad): It cos they twins. Pudgey: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.... OOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@fadeyi
@fadeyi Ай бұрын
Pudgey stealing Spartan's lines = Magician's stealing each others acts :)
@markm4369
@markm4369 Ай бұрын
The end of the movie was just all of the clones (or originals) who died in the box. He's got a basement full of water tanks with bodies in them.
@tactical-daddy
@tactical-daddy Ай бұрын
How the trick works is whomever is in the machine ends up in the box. Tesla built not a transport device but a duplication device. So for the trick, you step in the machine, you get duplicated but you fall into the tank and die and your replicatant takes your place. At the end, it was a warehouse full of water tanks and each on had a body in it.
@orphanedhanyou
@orphanedhanyou Ай бұрын
Or in the first duplication he tried alone, was it the clone that shot the original that was transported? Both would have similar thoughts after such a crazy experience but only one was trying to say "I'm the...." what? The original?!? Could he know? The original must pay the 'cost' of the trick & be the one to die is what Tesla alluded to. Robert wants to always be the transported one but he was immediately killed. I think it was always a clone of a clone of a clone after that. And when you start making copies of something you always start to get errors & deletions. Material & data get lost. Hence how Robert keeps getting more and more desensitized to what 'he' is doing.
@viper2785
@viper2785 28 күн бұрын
@@orphanedhanyou They would both think they're the original because they both have the same memories, experiences, personality. And technically they both are, but if we think of it in terms of the original doesn't move and a clone is created nearby, then the first time he did it, the "original" was in the machine still and grabbed the gun, but yeah, every time after that it would have been the "original" dying, and the "clone" was the prestige.
@austindmilligan
@austindmilligan Ай бұрын
The initials of both characters are A.B. And R.A. - ABRA for abracadabra
@TheJerbol
@TheJerbol Ай бұрын
Or Christopher Nolan's favourite Pokemon
@btemplin77
@btemplin77 Ай бұрын
Great reaction guys! This movie gets better and better the more you watch it as you catch new little details every time.
@ChocolateFishBrains
@ChocolateFishBrains Ай бұрын
What a great reaction. I loved seeing your post watch discussion, and all the realizations and theories that came along with it!
@zumedusa
@zumedusa Ай бұрын
There are two personalities. One is always cool, soft spoken and the other one is more of the hot head and always angry. The time Sarah said I knew because she can comfirm that Borden/Fallon is having an affair with Olivia and she doesn't know his husband is a twin. The twin bought the machine from Tesla just for the extreme electricity effects of it, nothing more. Angier got tricked by the twin and request a specific type of machine based on the schematic diagram je passed to the Tesla's butler. If you watch again for the 2nd time after knowing the ending, you will realize there's really a lot of clues seeded along the way.
@gitzogutz
@gitzogutz Ай бұрын
"Abracadabra" Spartan: "They didn't even let him finish his word!" Bruh... I just cannot....
@AFT3RDAY5
@AFT3RDAY5 Ай бұрын
Nolan is an exceptionally talented director. Every movie of his that I watched so far is absolutely brilliant.
@jamescrawford1534
@jamescrawford1534 20 күн бұрын
When narrating Borden/Fallon's diary hes constantly referring to 'we' and 'ourselves'
@nickyboy22071989
@nickyboy22071989 7 күн бұрын
"He looks very similar." Dude they're both Hugh Jackman.
@jlilley73
@jlilley73 Ай бұрын
Okay, but I need to know if you ever realized that Root (Robert's drunk double) was ALSO played by Hugh Jackman! 🤦‍♂
@rickroll1141
@rickroll1141 Ай бұрын
Borden loved Olivia Fallon loved Sarah Everytime Sarah says "not today" the one she's with is Borden and yeah the one that lived was Fallon
@bsvlogs3753
@bsvlogs3753 Ай бұрын
I think they switched off and both played Borden and Fallon
@TheJerbol
@TheJerbol Ай бұрын
They're literally both Borden and Fallon lmao this comment makes no sense
@orphanedhanyou
@orphanedhanyou Ай бұрын
​@@TheJerbolthey are twins but clones. They had to fake being both, but Sarah was never asked "Fallon" if he loved her. She was only asking Alfred so half the time he truly didn't love her & the other half he did.
@TheJerbol
@TheJerbol Ай бұрын
@@orphanedhanyou again, that makes zero sense. They're twins, not clones, who have shared one life since they were young. They alternated playing Fallon or Borden. C'mon, they spell it out in the movie
@TheJerbol
@TheJerbol Ай бұрын
@@orphanedhanyou 'she only asked alfred so half the time ...' yes, because half the time it was one person and half the time it was the other...
@Vvassago
@Vvassago Ай бұрын
Yaay great! These Nolan movie reactions from you are such a treat these days. Prestige is one my favourite movies. Nice reactions as always 💙
@PeterDB90
@PeterDB90 28 күн бұрын
There was a bit of foreshadowing when the kid was asking about the bird "but what about his brother?"
@albertrobles2498
@albertrobles2498 Ай бұрын
If the teleported Algiers is a copy with all memories intact, then the original died the first time he performed the act. Every Algiers thereafter is a copy.
@iddiis
@iddiis Ай бұрын
You guys are my favorite reactors! So happy you have boarded the Nolan-train, there are so many amazing movies that just leave you thinking about them for days afterwards, Can´t wait for more amazing movies and reactions! Love from Norway:)
@Jang9851
@Jang9851 Ай бұрын
Pudgey your overthinking both makes you confused unnecessarily at times but also it allows you to hilariously guess the twist so quickly with some confidence "this whole movie a trick in 3 parts" Just awesome LOL
@Rickhorse1
@Rickhorse1 Ай бұрын
Tesla was a real historical character (considered a genius who was ahead of his time). Nolan said that had always thought of David Bowie for the part because he also fit that description. He was surprised when Bowie agreed to do it...& was blown away by how Bowie "became" the character. So much so that many viewers didn't realize it was Bowie!
@simblackflag
@simblackflag Ай бұрын
I've waited almost 20 minutes at the end in your analysis for the bird symbolism/foreshadowing. I was so happy when after the Pudgey Story and the word "boy", the face of our Spartan became really focused and guessed that beautiful aspect of this film.
@heatrichards6251
@heatrichards6251 7 сағат бұрын
29:21 that clip just threw me off laughing 😂
@macmel2160
@macmel2160 Ай бұрын
I love how you guys had the puzzled expression the whole movie 😂
@iamtheresurrection7221
@iamtheresurrection7221 Ай бұрын
Bless this man's patience with her
@Mangolite
@Mangolite Ай бұрын
Since Wolverine, Batman, Black Widow, and Maya Hansen (from Iron Man 3) are in this magical spectacle, it’s interesting to note that there are two Alfreds (Michael Caine and Andy Serkis) from the Batman universe. Interestingly enough, Fallon’s brother turned out to be named Alfred, as well. Therefore, in The Prestige, the movie itself is a magic act. There is a magician’s code that all magicians have held close to their hearts throughout the centuries: never reveal their magic act, under penalty of death. This is why The Masked Magician hides his face when he reveals tricks in his act. In The Prestige, the twins were magicians performing as one person and never revealed their secret identity to even those closest to them. Borden’s wife developed trust issues because she was driven crazy by not knowing if her husband truly loved her, ultimately leading to her suicide. Additionally, the twins didn’t know who tied the knot on Robert’s wife, which ultimately led to her death, because the twin they asked was not the one who had done it.
@TomJones-wx5on
@TomJones-wx5on 20 күн бұрын
The final line of wanting to be fooled I interpret as we the audience wanting cheap thrills without having to look at any toxicity that may come along with it. Basically using entertainment as distraction rather than analysis. The two competing philosophies in the final scene feel like Nolan arguing with himself. Do you make are to be meticulous and craft something perfect or do you do it to make an audience happy. It’s his wrestle as a film maker.
@conradvonsydow2493
@conradvonsydow2493 Ай бұрын
Borden sending Angiers to Tesla was a distraction, a red herring, to get rid of him. Borden never had any interaction with Tesla. Angiers kind of 'got lucky' that Tesla was exactly what he needed.
@Rakyr
@Rakyr Ай бұрын
I remember seeing this as a kid and I was perplexed throughout the entire movie, a great classic!
@thebirdcatcher1
@thebirdcatcher1 Ай бұрын
Holy crap the Tenet discussion will be four hours long.
@scottishzombie
@scottishzombie Ай бұрын
"I'm probably going to be lost in the first 5 minutes..." No, that's TENET. Looking forward to you guys getting your brains melted by that one. I'm still recovering.
@eddhardy1054
@eddhardy1054 26 күн бұрын
12:45...Hi guys! They can't make the glass more easily breakable because it's gotta hold back a couple of tons (at least) of water.
@TheRealSeus
@TheRealSeus 20 күн бұрын
32:27 (speculation): Borden says "the keyword is the method", referring to his trick which later turns out to be the twin method. Since we know the keyword was “TESLA” this could imply, that Borden might have created his twin brother Fallon with Teslas machine some time ago. But in difference to Danton he never used the machine again.
@ph8429
@ph8429 Ай бұрын
It is really fun to rewatch the movie and figure out in every scene which brother is Borden and which is Fallon. If you think about it, Christian bale played 4 roles in this movie. One of my all time favorites
@WristwatchRomantic
@WristwatchRomantic Ай бұрын
Right on time for my birthday! Thanks for what you do. :)
@SpartanandPudgey
@SpartanandPudgey Ай бұрын
Happy birthday! ❤️🥳🎉
@lirpa2300
@lirpa2300 10 күн бұрын
I like rewatching this to see if I can tell when it's Fallon vs. Borden in scenes.
@scubasteve2903
@scubasteve2903 Ай бұрын
I love this movie! It’s definitely the OG guy who drowns everytime. The first time he shoots the clone. The remainder of the times he drowns and the clone is the prestige. A lot of discussion has gone on about this, but if you watch the building of the machine. The final test with the cat… Andy Serkis took the collar off the cat, and the cats by the top hats had collars. So everytime he goes into the machine he drowns. Which makes cutlers comment about drowning cut deeper. He said it was like falling asleep to ease him over his wife’s passing, but wanted him to know how painful it was for him everytime.
@Real_LiamOBryan
@Real_LiamOBryan Ай бұрын
I think this is probably right, but--if you think about it--if it makes a clone appear somewhere, then who's to say that it doesn't make the original appear there--instead--and make a clone appear in his place? It seems possible that the one in the field of effect of the machine is the clone, but that's not the simplest explanation. Ockham's Razor would dictate that we assume that it is as you say, so that's more probably (in the sense of epistemic probability, not ontological probability) the case.
@scubasteve2903
@scubasteve2903 Ай бұрын
@@Real_LiamOBryan I think the tell again is the cats. When you are shown the cat being “cloned” it has a collar. Then Serkis removes the collar and the cat runs off. But the cat it meets by the hats has a collar on. Therefore it’s implied the clone is the one transported and the original stays. I don’t believe this action was done without caution or thought.
@janeathome6643
@janeathome6643 Ай бұрын
He's making himself die his wife's death over and over.
@Real_LiamOBryan
@Real_LiamOBryan Ай бұрын
@@scubasteve2903 I know this. I'm just saying that it's possible that the other case is true, though less likely.
@Eagle3302PL
@Eagle3302PL Ай бұрын
@@scubasteve2903 That literally changes nothing, both have the collar during the cloning and transportation, the collar being removed after cloning does not impact the dilemma of which is the original.
@lildebs1986
@lildebs1986 Ай бұрын
OMG, YES! I remember seeing this is the theater and being shook!
@kappa_06
@kappa_06 Ай бұрын
Borden & Fallon was real twin. They switch when come the prestige so both can live it. Tesla's invention make clones of Angier. Angier didn't know when in enter the machine, if he is going to die (the man on the box) or if he is going to die. Each time he enter in the machine, he had 50% chance of dying. At the end, we see an entiere room of dead Angier, all Angier who was kill on the trick. The twin who survive is the one with Sarah and the father of the child. The one that was hang is the one Olivia love.
@PamArtsValentine
@PamArtsValentine Ай бұрын
One ot the greatest films ever made! The story, the director/crew & the cast are phenomenal!!!
@crayal9718
@crayal9718 Ай бұрын
watching this movie for a second time is amazing because wow, the trick feels so obvious with all the hints. (Like a magic trick ;) )
@19_meg_91
@19_meg_91 Ай бұрын
The first 2 min of this video are just pure gold! Hilarious!!
@sway3055
@sway3055 Ай бұрын
If u like this one then u will like “The illusionist” with Edward Norton..came out the same year as The Prestige and is also a tricky magic movie is a really good movie that u should watch
@EntrEsprit
@EntrEsprit Ай бұрын
I recently rewatched The Prestige, amazing movie. What surprised me is that the twist(s) really aren't hard to foresee, as they say in the movie all you need to do is pay attention and not be misled by the movie (like in the scene with Angier drowning in the water tank).
@EchanteDante
@EchanteDante Ай бұрын
HANDS DOWN ONE OF THEE BEST MYSTERY DRAMAS OR MYSTERY THRILLERS EVER!! THE CAST IS PHENOMENAL! The sets, costumes, the cinematography, etc ALL OF IT TOP NOTCH!! All of the magic scenes are sooo much fun too!! I do not understand how this isn’t ALWAYS on lists for the best movies of all time or best movies for the last 2 decades.
@PickledShark
@PickledShark 26 күн бұрын
“Which one is the real one?” They both were. That’s the whole point. He literally murdered himself every act. When he says he was never sure if he would be the man in the box or the man in the Prestige, he was lying to himself. He was always both, but one of him would drown to death and so wouldn’t be around to answer.
@Laurie473
@Laurie473 Ай бұрын
Awesome guys.... your sleuthing pretty good.., but just one thing will clean up for you. Robert Angiers in the end was a copy of a copy of a copy. The 'Original' of that cycle drops into the Tank, & the copy lives on to take the Prestige. Tesla's machine was a Facsimile..., a 'copy' maker. He realised that the 'transporter' he was trying to make, he could never get to work properly.., What it did do was make an 'exact' copy, at the new location. So Robert was making the "ultimate sacrifice" every time he did the trick. He was Killing himself, EVERY single time & the new exact copy lived on. There was no Original Robert, after the 1st time he performed the trick. This was Nolan's reveal at the very end of the Movie. to show Robert Angiers still dead in the Tank from the last time thru that he performed the trick. To reveal to you that it wasn't the 'Original' Robert, let's call him 'Angiers Prime' getting transported every time & just 'killing the copy' by drowning it in the tank. It was the copy of the copy of the copy etc Drowning on the next time thru the cycle. 😵😎
@orphanedhanyou
@orphanedhanyou Ай бұрын
This is what I think too. The original was shot. The first "cost" of the machine which Tesla tried to warn him about. Tesla didn't know that's what exactly would happen but he could easily deduce true tragedy & evil would come from this unnatural attempt to be God.
@walterrutherford8321
@walterrutherford8321 9 күн бұрын
Another period movie about magicians that came out about the same time is The Illusionist. The plot is simpler, but it’s worth watching.
@Gaven-S
@Gaven-S Ай бұрын
This is my favorite movie, I remember watching it years ago and it really got me into film. The ending isn't as deep as you may be making it out to be. "You want to be fooled." Is just talking about human nature, and more specifically to this movie, talking about Angier's obsession with Borden's trick. At some point he stops caring about the truth, what really motivates him is just the mystery of it. Similar to how people go to magicians in the first place, we wouldn't go if we knew all the answers, we want to be fooled.
@alexfilma16
@alexfilma16 Ай бұрын
"Useless" is certainly what I would call Lennon for a lot of the recording process of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. His ego was very apparent in the early sessions, always insisting on getting his own way.
@markm4369
@markm4369 Ай бұрын
Tesla was a wild goose chase Alfred came up with that actually turned out to give Robert an actual working machine.
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