The Problem With Chelsea Strikers

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Will Chelsea ever find another striker that performs for them? Over the past 20 years or so, striker signings have been more miss than hit by quite a large margin.
What is it that makes previously elite strikers lose all their football abilities when they put on that blue shirt? I have no idea. But today, we recount some of those stories.
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00:00 - Introduction
02:25 - Thanks to Spitch
03:25 - The Trial and Tribulations of Torres
06:17 - Diego Costa: Crazy? Yes. Cursed? Not Exactly
07:57 - Álvaro Morata: Thank the Pope for Hazard
10:09 - Werner and Lukaku...
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@StormFalcon657
@StormFalcon657 Жыл бұрын
Diego Costa was arguably their best number 9 in recent memories, but we all know he was a prick 😂
@everythingarsenaltv
@everythingarsenaltv Жыл бұрын
Believe me, us Arsenal fans know about him 😭 Our worst nightmare when he was around.
@fishyfish6510
@fishyfish6510 Жыл бұрын
For us Chelsea fans he was a beautiful prick
@Bunlover
@Bunlover Жыл бұрын
Diego Costa played with the number 19. Number 9 shirt is cursed.
@theSkarekro
@theSkarekro Жыл бұрын
He's a prick but he's OUR prick
@r4h4al
@r4h4al Жыл бұрын
Yep.
@punjoke.
@punjoke. Жыл бұрын
I'd argue Abraham (sorta-kinda-but not really) broke the curse. But what happened to him? Oh, wait. Chelsea sold him!
@oceanmike8516
@oceanmike8516 Жыл бұрын
I think he was talking about signed players
@TUF68
@TUF68 Жыл бұрын
i don’t know if you did or not, but leading up to Tammy’s exit, he was dreadful in games like he couldn’t even trap a ball
@mmsjejrinside385
@mmsjejrinside385 Жыл бұрын
Tuchel*
@benishben4364
@benishben4364 Жыл бұрын
@@TUF68 He got a goal contribution in almost every game he starts, not too bad imo
@pauladu4935
@pauladu4935 Жыл бұрын
Only chelsea will know how bad he started playing before he was sold.
@damon_9458
@damon_9458 Жыл бұрын
Fernando Torres at chelsea was so sad as a liverpool fan, seeing him not on form was so different
@bluepearl_22
@bluepearl_22 Жыл бұрын
tbf he was already past his prime by the time he went to Chelsea. Eversince his knee surgeries and especially after his injury in the WC final he was never the same.
@lol-bg4wh
@lol-bg4wh Жыл бұрын
@@bluepearl_22 nah, by the end of that season he. was good for liverpool
@r4h4al
@r4h4al Жыл бұрын
@@bluepearl_22 True.
@usxnews1834
@usxnews1834 Жыл бұрын
It was strange seeing Torres' rapid decline in those years - maybe only Rooney's comes close in my mind in terms of its steepness. But I do have a nice memory of going to watch Chelsea v Norwich at Stamford bridge in (I think) his second season. We had decent seats close to the pitch, and I recall me and my mates just amazed at his technique on the ball and the quickness of his feet. Even in that slightly sad post-peak era of his career, it was a pleasure to watch him play up close
@SRG5101
@SRG5101 Жыл бұрын
Not on form!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he wont us the champions league lol
@Rithysak101
@Rithysak101 Жыл бұрын
Me as long time Chelsea fan, I always firmly believe that the strikers at Chelsea were never the problem, it's always been the lack of support from their midfielders. Diego Costa had Cesc Fabregas and Didier Drogba had Frank Lampard.
@zozkatka
@zozkatka Жыл бұрын
Speaker of truth ☝🏻
@56postoffice
@56postoffice Жыл бұрын
That's right. 👌
@abdoulayesoumare8471
@abdoulayesoumare8471 Жыл бұрын
That was always the problem. They never had a really good creative midfielder like other teams. I know lampard and matta was good but they weren’t consistent.
@cbainson
@cbainson Жыл бұрын
You're right. Our problems are not the strickers but rather the midfield and constant back passing. GP had brentford playing attacking football..but with Chelsea we are back to our old ways. Very disappointing. The coach should pick the right players and drop sterling.
@maheshpun4804
@maheshpun4804 Жыл бұрын
Fábregas couldn't help Morata, Falcao or Higuain
@Sinklebarn
@Sinklebarn Жыл бұрын
We literally had Tammy and sold him… like wtf. He was young, strong, driven, home grown, PRODUCED RESULTS. I love this club the decisions we make sometimes is dumbfounding
@user-mb7es8bz4c
@user-mb7es8bz4c Жыл бұрын
Tammy has an egregious first touch, poor aerial ability, and poor movement in the box.
@faded9621
@faded9621 Жыл бұрын
Under Mourinho, he has improved
@smharyanto4660
@smharyanto4660 Жыл бұрын
@. Just like lakaka then
@Finikss01
@Finikss01 Жыл бұрын
@@faded9621 i would re-buy him to chelsea, when auba is finished
@okok-lh9gg
@okok-lh9gg Жыл бұрын
come on man, tammy was far from strong, he cant properly do a hold up play against any cb in the league, he isnt bad but for a big team like chelsea, we want more and thats it, tammy is good but not someone we should be relying on as a starting centre forward on our club. we just want more
@archiebuchan6888
@archiebuchan6888 Жыл бұрын
On the final bit- Auba is a deadline day signing, but he's one that we've been trying for since the beginning of August. Not particularly last minute but I get how it looks that way.
@FootballIconic
@FootballIconic Жыл бұрын
Fair enough!
@ArsenalGunners89
@ArsenalGunners89 Жыл бұрын
It IS a last minute buy, what it ISN’T is what we Gunners are famous for, a panic buy.
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Utd fans said that about Anthony and Casimero as well 😂
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal Жыл бұрын
@@ArsenalGunners89 I wouldn’t call Jesus and Zinchenko panic buys
@Pop013
@Pop013 Жыл бұрын
@@GuinessOriginal he didnt say "Arsenal panic buyed this trnf.season"...pls read again his comment.
@MAD___productions466
@MAD___productions466 Жыл бұрын
That Gary Neville moment is my favorite moment of his whole career
@r4h4al
@r4h4al Жыл бұрын
My favourite moment's when he kissed Scholes.
@Coldest1_
@Coldest1_ Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the number 9 curse had been there since Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink left Chelsea in 2004
@ombrahmbhatt2432
@ombrahmbhatt2432 Жыл бұрын
Yep
@aidanjanemcintosh6919
@aidanjanemcintosh6919 Жыл бұрын
I still remember fawning over Crespo
@everythingarsenaltv
@everythingarsenaltv Жыл бұрын
The Torres one was so weird 😭 He was literally one of the Best Strikers in the League when he was at Liverpool. Expected him to bang in the Goals at Chelsea but it just never happened. Instead he was creating his own Top 20 for worst misses 😭 Let's see how Auba does 👀 I think he'll get the goals for them.
@hnz5404
@hnz5404 Жыл бұрын
Still one of the greatest deals liverpool ever pulled. Completely swindled chelsea.
@TheMightofDab
@TheMightofDab Жыл бұрын
He was pretty crap for Liverpool for a while before that transfer though
@ichigoichie369
@ichigoichie369 Жыл бұрын
@@hnz5404 they also got swindled hard by andy carroll as well.
@tloydie6383
@tloydie6383 Жыл бұрын
won the DROGBAAAAAAA corner tbf, and that barca goal
@JoltzDaGhost
@JoltzDaGhost Жыл бұрын
He got injured and lost his pace...he couldn't adapt to not having pace
@logankenny9696
@logankenny9696 Жыл бұрын
Been watching these videos with my girlfriend to try and get her into football! She’s growing more interested and she really enjoys your videos, please keep it up!
@mubarakbayambeadamu6862
@mubarakbayambeadamu6862 Жыл бұрын
For the culture 😎
@DjFlix69
@DjFlix69 Жыл бұрын
Baller
@FootballIconic
@FootballIconic Жыл бұрын
You're a real one, man!
@brexistentialism7628
@brexistentialism7628 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@gandalf_thegrey
@gandalf_thegrey Жыл бұрын
Doing gods work
@TTVChannel20
@TTVChannel20 Жыл бұрын
Chelsea: We need a striker! Chelsea: Proceeds to sell strikers Also Chelsea: Lacks creative players or attacking style to help strikers score.
@kirapoodle
@kirapoodle Жыл бұрын
They still have some creative players: Sterling, Pulisic, Ziyech, Mount, Havertz, even James and Chilwell. The problem is the system that Tuchel uses. Tuchel prioritizes not conceding over attacking football. Unfortunately this isn't even working, Chelsea are still conceding a lot of goals while being ineffective in attack. He should switch to a 4-2-3-1, similar to what Ten Hag is using at Manchester United.
@TTVChannel20
@TTVChannel20 Жыл бұрын
@@kirapoodle Well this didn’t age well. Tuchel got sacked and now Chelsea are linked to Potter, who uses a similar system.
@kirapoodle
@kirapoodle Жыл бұрын
@@TTVChannel20 Yeah I honestly don't get it. I'm neutral in regards to Potter, he has done a good job at Brighton but like you said, he uses a similar system to Tuchel. If he uses a similar system and the players start performing then we can conclude that the issue was Tuchel and not really the system. Time will tell.
@fuaddanial2029
@fuaddanial2029 Жыл бұрын
I think you missed out an important reasoning behind this curse. Chelsea are in some ways indebted and cursed by the shadow of Drogba. Drogba was not a typical striker who scores goals, he was a physical player who pushed the ball forward and brings teammates to the attack. This is always how Chelsea have played at their attacking best. Costa worked out well for Chelsea because he played the same way. But you cannot take a goal scoring forward like Torres and expect him to play like Drogba. Chelsea always tries to buy the most expensive forwards but they will never work under Chelsea's defensive minded philosophy.
@joshbrown2217
@joshbrown2217 Жыл бұрын
I think you are mostly right, Mourinho did set the whole Chelsea blueprint for the Roman ownership. But I don't think it's due to a defensive mindset, but more making use of the creative players in our team. Think first, Lampard, Robben, Joe Cole, Wright-Phillips, Essien even. Then you had Hazard, Schurle, Mata, Oscar.
@mikeal616
@mikeal616 9 ай бұрын
​@@joshbrown2217facts
@Truffle_Pup
@Truffle_Pup Жыл бұрын
Aw man great memories of 2011 there Tinashe! I remember the joke at the time was that Mohamed Al Fayed had just spent £10m on a statue of Michael Jackson outside Craven Cottage, but Roman Abramovich wasn't to be out done, so he spent £50m on a statue of Fernando Torres in the 6 yard box! Man, the old ones are the best hahaha!
@FootballIconic
@FootballIconic Жыл бұрын
🤣
@c.l.visions2581
@c.l.visions2581 Жыл бұрын
Some video ideas for you Iconic - The fall of Bolton Wanderers Daniel Sturridge’s Career Preston North End and the first Invincibles
@FootballIconic
@FootballIconic Жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@timhinfort1171
@timhinfort1171 Жыл бұрын
I think you can make an entire video about Alvaro Morata's carrer he played for so many top clubs and has failed to impress at any of them. Was he ever even the top player people thought he was?
@johnpederson5873
@johnpederson5873 Жыл бұрын
Morata scores loads of goals in just sure they are all in training no other way he get into all the teams he’s been at
@iamwahman
@iamwahman Жыл бұрын
That guy has the best marketing team behind him.
@dagotowka9191
@dagotowka9191 Жыл бұрын
hes a quality allround player people only hate because they dont watch him
@symptomofsouls
@symptomofsouls Жыл бұрын
Morata is a money laundering chip
@anuragC819
@anuragC819 Жыл бұрын
"promising player"
@dadaMJ_1
@dadaMJ_1 Жыл бұрын
I'm Watching From TEMA. Ghana West Africa. 🇬🇭 Best sports channel of all time.👑❤️💯
@FirashAdryan
@FirashAdryan Жыл бұрын
Man, I still remember the season where the great Sheva flopped, and I thought to myself, maybe they’ll find another quality striker that is better, or at least on par with Drogba’s calibre. Little did I know, I was watching the beginning of a ‘curse’.
@usxnews1834
@usxnews1834 Жыл бұрын
It was strange seeing Torres' rapid decline in those years - maybe only Rooney's comes close in my mind in terms of its steepness. But I do have a nice memory of going to watch Chelsea v Norwich at Stamford bridge in (I think) his second season. We had decent seats close to the pitch, and I recall me and my mates just amazed at his technique on the ball and the quickness of his feet. Even in that slightly sad post-peak era of his career, it was a pleasure to watch him play up close
@akhilmontrose
@akhilmontrose Жыл бұрын
Most of Chelsea forwards were really bad but there’s a main thing that people don’t touch on and that’s the supply. Chelsea have lacked a creative midfielder since Fabregas left and it’s no coincidence that the last couple times we won the premier league was when Fabregas was part of the team putting up a huge amount of assists. We also had players like Hazard, William, Pedro who were all brilliant on the ball and were great passers as well.
@iamwahman
@iamwahman Жыл бұрын
Thank you, finally somebody else sees it. That absence of a creative spark in midfield was even more evidence last season when good passing options opened up bur Mount and co never made that pass. We don't have that player who will try something in the middle of the park for us.
@symptomofsouls
@symptomofsouls Жыл бұрын
This is strange because there are so many creative midfielders that Chelsea could have went for this summer. Lucas Paqueta, Bernardo Silva, Gavi, Ruben Neves, Pedro Goncalves, Renato Sanches, Houssem Aouar, Maxence Caqueret, Marcos Antonio, Davide Frattesi, Youri Tielemans, the list goes on and on. Instead chelsea spends 85m on Fofana after already buying Koulibaly, sends almost 200 million worth of strikers on loan, sign a past-it Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, and continue to persist with a negative 3-4-3 system despite having one of the best squads in the entire league
@akhilmontrose
@akhilmontrose Жыл бұрын
@@symptomofsouls I don’t think city would sell Bernardo Silva to Chelsea or anyone in the league but you’re making fair points. I think everyone who watched Chelsea since Tuchel arrived would say that we lack creativity in the midfield. All of the other teams in the top 6 have some sort of creative player that can make a progressive, penetrating pass except Chelsea. The amount of times last season and the season before we had opportunities to play in our attacking players we didn’t either because the current players don’t have the capabilities to do so or they are downright scared to take a risk. We miss Fabregas so much.
@akhilmontrose
@akhilmontrose Жыл бұрын
@@iamwahman that’s very true. I vividly remember the first time we played City last season and Lukaku was waiting for the ball and hakim completely scuffed it. I was raging lol
@alvesh129
@alvesh129 Жыл бұрын
love ur vids dude keep up the great work, you should make a video on world cup 2022 predictions for groups and knockouts, i'd love to see that!
@trevorlewatle1886
@trevorlewatle1886 Жыл бұрын
Never took note of this curse lol. Great work bruv. Problem could be that they sign strikers based on goals n not the ryt style of play. Conte and Costa are a perfect example
@mastarceef4000
@mastarceef4000 Жыл бұрын
You know when Football Iconic uses "Oof" we are in for one hell of a ride. Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink and Eiður Guðjohnsen still my favorite Chelsea strikers.
@Zapfut
@Zapfut Жыл бұрын
Lovely Video As Always, Keep Up The Good Work Man! 😀
@MegaZz23
@MegaZz23 Жыл бұрын
Great content my guy!! Top tier stuff this
@WiHuThRi
@WiHuThRi Жыл бұрын
For every Drogba, there are five Kezmans... for every Costa, there are five Moratas... as a lifelong Chelsea fan, it's tough consistently not having a good frontman... I'm just hoping Aube can re-ignite his form with us (but I am tentative in saying that).
@gustielteso
@gustielteso Жыл бұрын
I really like how you present all the different cases and in general the narrative that you use in your videos, it would be really nice if you add a conclusion part at the end of your videos when you try to explore why this is actually happening to have a more complete view of the problem, anyway, nice job man!
@FootballIconic
@FootballIconic Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! I actually did have a conclusion to this one pertaining to Chelsea's playstyle over the past few years not favoring #9s . But it didn't make much sense after the Aubameyang signing haha
@IncredibleMet
@IncredibleMet Жыл бұрын
@@FootballIconic should have kept it in and made the edit about auba perhaps bucking the trend?
@NuckleBebop
@NuckleBebop Жыл бұрын
Oooh nice a new vid, ive been binging your videos
@rednutria4072
@rednutria4072 Жыл бұрын
Can u do a video where u do a deep dive into the midfield 3 of xavi, iniesta, and busquets plz
@Mgucci_the_G.O.A.T.
@Mgucci_the_G.O.A.T. Жыл бұрын
your videos are amazing and so detailed
@abelassefa4446
@abelassefa4446 Жыл бұрын
Torres had a team playing for him at Liverpool. Steven Gerrard starts the attack & El Nino was the focal point in the team. World class at that stage. Since Abramovich came at Chelsea there are always world class midfielders & wingers who can create & finish goals on their own which limits the strikers service. Torres even once complained that Chelsea midfielders did not pass him often.
@Despair505
@Despair505 Жыл бұрын
I started getting into football in 2011, after I had been playing PES 2010 for a while. I had never been interested in football before but that game was so fun, and the main thing I remember was the intro, with Messi and Fernando Torres. The guy looked so cool. Then when I heard Torres was in Chelsea, and he was having a bad time, I started watching every Chelsea game just hoping that El Niño would score. He never got his form back, but at least he made some important contributions in the UCL and Europa League, and I'm still following Chelsea to this day.
@andyinfared
@andyinfared Жыл бұрын
Another quality and well informed video 😎
@robertmason6366
@robertmason6366 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that Gary Nevile noise was epic. Glad you highlighted that and the bit when Torres went up and looked at the Barca fans after he scored was also good.
@sollymadeit
@sollymadeit Жыл бұрын
Tbh I don't rate our scouts. I'm happy we are getting proper AI based scouting and building a team to TT's image.
@bhew7409
@bhew7409 Жыл бұрын
They got cheap Salah and FDB to be fair to them.
@Pabloess07
@Pabloess07 Жыл бұрын
TT is gone now🤣🤣👍
@gandalf_thegrey
@gandalf_thegrey Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, let's sign POTTER
@HIM3153
@HIM3153 Жыл бұрын
That didn't last long
@johnangel9053
@johnangel9053 Жыл бұрын
As always you are one of my favourite football youtubers ❤️ always bringing an entertaining information for us all
@BestPriceSunCoastTransmissions
@BestPriceSunCoastTransmissions Жыл бұрын
This guy makes awesome videos. He’s become a must watch whenever he comes across my feed.
@joshbrown2217
@joshbrown2217 Жыл бұрын
I feel like something you missed, which is very important to mention is how the striker role got established at the start of the Abramovic era. TL:DR = Mou established the striker position as winning games/trophies over scoring lots of goals to make the most of Lampard and our wingers. This then set in place the team building we would use for the next 15 years. We brought Drogba in, but we never played him as a stat padding striker, he was always used as a utility striker, providing for others and scoring important goals. This is due to Mou saying you to him 'you can be a king somewhere else and score lots of goals, or you can be a legend here and win trophies' (paraphrased, as I couldn't remember the quote). This in turn meant we always structured our teams around our creative players to score and the striker to be more of a utility player who won't score many goals. This is why Costa done so well, Conte played a very different style of football than we normally played and this allowed Costa to be more of a number 9, but obviously this hampered people like Willian, Hazard, Pedro, etc. This is the issue Tuchel has now, he done well to relate back to Chelsea's history and use Havertz as a utility striker, which won us the champs, but we don't really have the creative players to make the best use of that sort of player.
@xavierrodestami40
@xavierrodestami40 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are very fun, entertaining, and also very educative. It seems like watching a story about football talent. 😀 And it helps to disconnect a lot at nights. Keep it up Football Iconic. I will see what's struggling with Chelsea strikers as the title says :)
@FunkyGhostHD
@FunkyGhostHD Жыл бұрын
Tinashe's great honetly. Like his editing style, his jokes get me for the most time and and his voice is soothing. And of course the most important part, he is a damn good researcher. Props to him for not trying to be another Tifo copycat.
@michaelkeitof4666
@michaelkeitof4666 Жыл бұрын
2 main reasons why , We buy strikers that don’t suit our system for example lukaku and Werner flourish in counter attack systems and we play more of a possession based football and second reason is we don’t create a high volume of chances for our strikers so we expect strikers to score with every chance therefore when a player misses a chance it ruins their confidence cuz they don’t get an opportunity to get another chance
@tompalegend
@tompalegend Жыл бұрын
But werner has so many clear chances that he misses
@michaelkeitof4666
@michaelkeitof4666 Жыл бұрын
@@tompalegend Werner In the bundesliga was the exact same he was never the clinical striker he’s more of a striker who always needed high volume chances created for him to score
@tompalegend
@tompalegend Жыл бұрын
@@michaelkeitof4666 but he had many chances to score in peemier league, was offside all the time and terrible ball control
@michaelkeitof4666
@michaelkeitof4666 Жыл бұрын
@@tompalegend dont get me wrong werner is still a poor footballer, he applies more to the first point i made of buying players that dont suit our system.
@argenisjrg
@argenisjrg Жыл бұрын
Amazing video as always! It would be interesting if you made another video about United, now that they have won three game in a row, including against Liverpool.
@diegooliveirabenjamin
@diegooliveirabenjamin Жыл бұрын
And now we have Auba as the 9, let’s only hope…
@JoshuaC923
@JoshuaC923 Жыл бұрын
Your humour is always on point, amazing work🤣👍🏻
@marianchicago4002
@marianchicago4002 Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen a advanced stats split of Timo Werner games, there was a sample size of like 8-9 games where he played centrally in front 3, and spend most of his time between the goal posts, I think his record was like 6-7 goals in those games, problem is, you can’t play 3 CB’s, midfield 3, and front 3 at the same time, considering Chelsea won UCL and denied City, it was the right call, but one has to wonder if they went back 4, midfield 3 and front 3 and really used the glut of forwards properly, how their numbers and record might look like…..
@aidanfick2161
@aidanfick2161 Жыл бұрын
Fernando Torres at LFC 🔥🙌🏽... My god, were those some memorable seasons... That Stevie G/ Fernando connection, coupled with the criminally underated skill of Dirk Kuyt🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 Glorious to watch...
@somnathbose7455
@somnathbose7455 Жыл бұрын
one thing u missed 15 goals of morata out of which most of them were from bench ...
@NostalgiNorden
@NostalgiNorden Жыл бұрын
Another great vid!
@haforoddsson4181
@haforoddsson4181 Жыл бұрын
No mention on Mutu he started amazing.. Torres scored 22-23 goals in on season. Mostly in europe.. Huguain came from juve after beeing having back injuriy and he did not bad scored beautiful goals
@ichigoichie369
@ichigoichie369 Жыл бұрын
Chelsea’s transfer policy is like throwing everything at the wall and see what sticks.
@Fkacu
@Fkacu Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@thecyclingbean6806
@thecyclingbean6806 Жыл бұрын
I feel that of all positions, strikers need to get into a “rhythm”. Due to the constant chopping and changing of squads it makes it difficult for strikers to get into form
@footyfactsasmr
@footyfactsasmr Жыл бұрын
It’s funny how much money lukaku cost Chelsea overall. The fact they sold him then tried to buy him but had to go buy morata for 60million because they couldn’t get him then spent all that money on Werner and others to get their striker. Then they finally get lukaku back for 97million just to send him back on loan. Shambles!
@Midtable1881
@Midtable1881 Жыл бұрын
I would to see a prequel vid, focusing on strikers of the pre-Abramovich era, the likes of Flo, Jimmy-Floyd, etc.
@powerpeanut8865
@powerpeanut8865 Жыл бұрын
12:09 I, as a man who frequently tried to play combinations with the trampoline in our back yard, can confirm, that a trampoline in fact has no good first touch. Mine's still worse tho
@jhonnybravo5284
@jhonnybravo5284 Жыл бұрын
You know Chelsea would have still qualified if Torres didn't score against Barca right? That goal was simply icing on the cake
@FootballIconic
@FootballIconic Жыл бұрын
Yep! Still a legendary moment. When the world knew for sure Barca were out
@jhonnybravo5284
@jhonnybravo5284 Жыл бұрын
@@FootballIconic love your channel btw
@MEMYSELFANDI...
@MEMYSELFANDI... Жыл бұрын
@@jhonnybravo5284 no, Chelsea had the advantage anyway, Torres just killed the game
@pieterkuut9679
@pieterkuut9679 Жыл бұрын
Perfect timing my guy! Just Made my food and opend yt
@seunadebambo7588
@seunadebambo7588 Жыл бұрын
Hey man, lovely video and great channel. Keep up the good work. When are you going to talk about Kevin de bruyne man. He's arguably the greatest midfielder In the premier League. I mean look at that assist for haaland against villa. My Word.
@hamzahadzic3450
@hamzahadzic3450 Жыл бұрын
I wished this video was more detailed in terms WHY do strikers struggle at Chelsea? Is it constant change of tactical system due to Chelsea constantly changing its coaches, which almost all use different tactics? Or is it just hard for them to bond with coach and the rest of the team?
@xavier1752
@xavier1752 Жыл бұрын
Shitty scouting, poor player identification, poor tactics to suit most of them, toxic fan culture, and a changing of managers fairly consistently doesn’t help. The guy didn’t do a good job at all explaining. I could literally run through any one you can name and give a tactical reason. Curses aren’t real.
@hamzahadzic3450
@hamzahadzic3450 Жыл бұрын
@@xavier1752 With Lukaku I kinda already know, I watched some of tactical explanations how Conte used him and what Tuchel wanted from him? What about Torres, Morata, Higuain and Werner?
@jasondalton1980
@jasondalton1980 Жыл бұрын
You have a fair point throughout, and it fully remains to be seen if Auba will confirm or contrast this hex. Personally, I was expecting Werner to break the proposed curse, and yet he succumbed and was consumed by it, Havertz seems to be going the same way. If I was a betting man, Id say Aubameyang..... will need some gypsy magic support. Maybe some Chelsea pensioners in their red coats and medals can do a march or something to break it, otherwise Pierre-Emerick will also be rickety in front of goal
@sageofsixbroths
@sageofsixbroths Жыл бұрын
Great video again.
@clobbopus_used_beat
@clobbopus_used_beat Жыл бұрын
Newish PL fan and needed this
@Enigma19
@Enigma19 Жыл бұрын
Yo bro awesome upload as always! I am a chelsea fan and I’ve been saying it for a while now, we could have R9 and he would still flop
@clbtrainingsandbusinesscon5003
@clbtrainingsandbusinesscon5003 Жыл бұрын
The Diego Costa part is so funny 🤣😂😂😂...you are the best man
@haforoddsson4181
@haforoddsson4181 Жыл бұрын
Falco was injured the whole time and pato was finished before he came
@lemthasonamzi3192
@lemthasonamzi3192 Жыл бұрын
I love this channel 🔥
@samc4451
@samc4451 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@deadsheep404
@deadsheep404 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Chelsea fan and I loved watching Torres play. He always worked so hard and never ever gave up. He had a few amazing moments too. I'd also say it's unfair to include Kalou on this list. He was never our striker. And he played more than his part in Chelsea's success
@theophilusagbator4994
@theophilusagbator4994 Жыл бұрын
Chelsea stirker curse for me is because of the levels of expectations everyone has for the player when he first signs and also Chelsea lack of planing of the right player to the right system
@iamwahman
@iamwahman Жыл бұрын
It's the number 9 shirt. Both Drogba and Costa did their incredible things not in that shirt number. Now since Auba is given that shirt number, I thing we can maybe expect something similar.
@theophilusagbator4994
@theophilusagbator4994 Жыл бұрын
@@iamwahman I doubt dat but hopefully will work
@theophilusagbator4994
@theophilusagbator4994 Жыл бұрын
@@iamwahman also drogba and Costa had no 11 and 19 respectively
@iamwahman
@iamwahman Жыл бұрын
@@theophilusagbator4994 I forgot to include their numbers but they both did their rad tingz without the no.9 shirt.
@HenSt-gz7qj
@HenSt-gz7qj Жыл бұрын
because they always sign strikers that don't suit the manager... or the other way around. Werner only fit for 2 striker formation, he and Lukaku are the same type of striker : making runs behind defender. The problem is the people behind their scouting and transfers.
@retronaut083
@retronaut083 Жыл бұрын
No curse, we've just bought bad players many times: Shevchenko (owner's vanity buy), Torres (dunno why he flopped honestly), Sturridge (not good enough), Pato (really stupid purchase), Falcao (he was finished already), Morata (mentally weak), Werner (bad accuracy) and Lukaku (worst of them all). We've had some effective strikers besides Costa and Drogba, for example Anelka, Giroud and to some extent Abraham, despite his limitations. Marina and our previous scouting team did some good deals but also did many terrible ones, hopefully we fix that in our new regime.
@udbz7264
@udbz7264 Жыл бұрын
Why do people not know why torres flopped? He literally had a serious injury he never recovered from
@nst_chipz3243
@nst_chipz3243 Жыл бұрын
ur clueless werner and lukaku were only bad due to the systems if anything chelsea r to blame themselves for poor recruiting timo n lukaku r counter attacking players.they got their best numbers from a counter attacking system but sadly chelsea play possesion based football
@oliverqueen5883
@oliverqueen5883 Жыл бұрын
Torres was incredible man 😭😭
@danipinhasik7763
@danipinhasik7763 Жыл бұрын
Video is dope 👏💪💯💯
@frank8william
@frank8william Жыл бұрын
that's a big oof in the last part. Cheers my guy, you now understand Xavi's feeling about Auba too.
@andyinfared
@andyinfared Жыл бұрын
That bamyang Aresnal tattoo actually suits the blue top :D
@abdiolr8552
@abdiolr8552 Жыл бұрын
Auba is going to wear no. 9👀👀
@theophilusagbator4994
@theophilusagbator4994 Жыл бұрын
We are finished
@Dz73zxxx
@Dz73zxxx Жыл бұрын
I might take an unpopular opinion from Irish Guy: Chelsea gave up too early on Lukaku last season. My headcanon would be that if Chelsea banned Lukaku to return to Inter, Lukaku himself would improve in chelsea's ground...Idk maybe to pipe out his griefs(?) But this isnt baseless trend.. take a look at Suarez or Kane in 2013 and 2021 respectively. Both are rebelling their club, yet they stay and came back with outrageous performance.
@michaelkeitof4666
@michaelkeitof4666 Жыл бұрын
Issue is lukaku ruined any chance of staying by releasing that interview which essentially burned bridges between him and the club
@iamwahman
@iamwahman Жыл бұрын
I'm on the same take as you see. Yes the interview did not do him any favours but there is just too much talent there for us to just let go without trying to get the most out of him.
@allanransom8518
@allanransom8518 Жыл бұрын
Interesting how this one dropped just days before the other Chelsea curse struck again.
@dewzahundred
@dewzahundred Жыл бұрын
Remember back when i was watching every Chelsea just hope to see Torres score
@jochemjoshua
@jochemjoshua Жыл бұрын
The most bizar thing was.. Chelsea signed Khalid Boulahrouz back in 2006 as number 9. Surprisingly as defender he didn't score..
@Ates187
@Ates187 Жыл бұрын
Have you made a full video about Pedro? Amazing player, under-under-rated.
@seanmcintyre2415
@seanmcintyre2415 Жыл бұрын
Auba is not necessarily a last minute signing though. As Chelsea has been negotiating that deal for a while. We'll see if it works out.
@elirodriguez4411
@elirodriguez4411 Жыл бұрын
I think this is a testimony to Chelsea's style of football. They were never known for being agressive (that would be ManU and City) They have been consistently, since the arrival of Jose Mourinho, a defensive squad. Playing rough, relying on genius' strokes, counterattacks, and longshots to score, and in a solid defense and great goalkeepers to win matches and titles. And even though I don't like them at all, I can respect them for being loyal to their identity.
@viandramonisyaf8623
@viandramonisyaf8623 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the striker Chelsea should have bought/look into are the ones who can finish off the rare chances they've been given which is what they haven't done in a while (Probably why Diego Costa fits them well as he is a great finisher at that point in his career and also played for a Simeone side who relies on counter attacks and good finishing from their attackers to win games).
@gonxguitar3206
@gonxguitar3206 Жыл бұрын
@Football Iconic you have to make a video on Zidane's 3x UCL winning Madrid team
@AutopilotAndChill
@AutopilotAndChill Жыл бұрын
The system utilized at Chelsea doesn’t help the strikers. All of them that have played there are poachers and need service. Other than Hazard and Lampard not one payer there can give proper passes that open up defenses for the striker. Drogba was a freak with how strong and powerful he was. Costa was really good and strong as well and was playing with Hazard. Torres relied on his explosiveness just like Pato who both lost a step because of injuries. Combine that with the defensive style they play there and it is a recipe for disaster. Lukaku is a great player. He has done great in England for other teams as well as Italy so his quality shouldn’t be questioned. Both the players and managers need to be flexible and in his case neither were. Honestly Tuchel in my opinion is a fraud. A more scared version of Mourinho. At least Mourinho wasn’t so scared to play with 5 defenders…
@FunkyGhostHD
@FunkyGhostHD Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call Tuchel a fraud but I do think he's slowly losing his touch. I hope he'll rebound but frankly I won't count on it, he needs a break I think. Maybe we can bring Marco Rose in? Just someone that's not Pochettino.
@iejaculatefire8958
@iejaculatefire8958 Жыл бұрын
@@FunkyGhostHD someone that's not pochettino🤣🤣🤣
@damookster5919
@damookster5919 Жыл бұрын
Pierre Emerick is similar to Wesley fofana- we’ve been working them for months, deals just happened to be made now. Zakaria though… let’s just say that I’m glad that Boehly has this much money to throw around, because these budget breakers end up just breaking my heart every season
@arkarmoethouk2445
@arkarmoethouk2445 Жыл бұрын
Been a Blues fan for 20years, and here's how I see it. 01. Mutu - Did okay but his off-field problems were wayyy tooo much. 02. Crespo - Did kinda okay but never really settled in England. 03. Drogba - Chelsea's goat striker, of course. 04. Kezman - Ohhh don't even start lmao 05. Shevchenko - Looked so out of place in PL. Could see his qualities in some of the goals he scored at Chelsea but simply a disastrous signing. 06. Anelka - A lowkey signing that turned out to be really really good. 07. Sturridge - He wasn't bad at all but never really got the chance, I guess. 08. Torres - I had a feeling that he was gonna be a flop because since 2010, he hadn't really been the same. Liverpool cashed in on him. 09. Eto'o - Not too bad considering he was a very short-term signing. Did better than most others. 10. Demba Ba - Never really got the chance, I guess. 11. Diego Costa - He had that Drogba DNA. Absolute beast. Chelsea won 2 PLs in his three years stint at the Bridge, so. 12. Remy - Another one who never really fit in. 13. Falcao - Ohh boy I don't know what to say. 14. Pato - Same as above 15. Batshuayi - He actually had a decent G/A contribution with the minutes he had. The problem was that the way he played on the pitch was just painful to watch. 16. Morata - Started out really well and then his misses were, unforgivable I would say? Lucky he was sold for a big fees. 17. Giroud - Now, this one also was a lowkey signing that really helped the club. His experience was a very important factor in their 2021 UCL triumph. 18. Higuain - Man turned up only once, against Huddersfield lol 19. Werner - Sighhh. He wasn't all bad but never found his feet in the Prem, I would say. His impact in UCL was actually really good. 12 G/A in 12 games time. Glad he went back to RBL. 20. Lukaku - Another terrible signing that lots of fans didn't want. We knew how it was gonna turn out with that gigantic price tag on him. The management was horrible too. A complete waste of money. 21. Aubameyang - Well, let's just see.
@leemc5646
@leemc5646 Жыл бұрын
Shevchenko had a injury before being sold to Chelsea Crespo simply wasn't fancied by Mourinho he liked the more physical Drogba
@youraverageguy7842
@youraverageguy7842 Жыл бұрын
This must be Drogba’s spirit looming over them
@nileshmehta8644
@nileshmehta8644 Жыл бұрын
Diego Costa's case was really a sad one, Chelsea didn't get a good striker post that but for him it was even worse
@skencher7
@skencher7 Жыл бұрын
Except for Jose & Carlo no other manager really played a Striker scoring focused tactics
@Dessienewshoes
@Dessienewshoes Жыл бұрын
Drogba and Costa were lethal
@federicomassai8927
@federicomassai8927 Жыл бұрын
You cold make a similar video about AC Milan nr9 curse. Spreading from Inzaghi to Giroud.
@stfufam2052
@stfufam2052 Жыл бұрын
Abraham definitely could of broke the curse but we sold I hope they activate his buy back clause
@ryche_speed940
@ryche_speed940 Жыл бұрын
hey, can you please do a video of one of the greatest midfielders of all time, arguably (and is) the greatest midfielder of all time, Andres Inietsa??
@youngalpha8069
@youngalpha8069 Жыл бұрын
Please do a video on 🧤 Thibaut Courtois 🧤
@pitah846
@pitah846 Жыл бұрын
Torres might have to be at his best while at Chelsea but he helped the team at vital moments
@fishyfish6510
@fishyfish6510 Жыл бұрын
9:43 because we had Marina Granovskaia back then
@maheshpun4804
@maheshpun4804 Жыл бұрын
1:26 I completely forgot those three played for Chelsea
@haforoddsson4181
@haforoddsson4181 Жыл бұрын
Chelsea fans also remembers torres 9 goals in 11 matches when we won the european cup in 2013 and scored the opening goal in the final
@Zxlxya
@Zxlxya Жыл бұрын
Shevchenko should’ve never left Milan. Bro was a beast
@generalpenultimo6502
@generalpenultimo6502 Жыл бұрын
Demba Ba was amazing
@HelioPopTart
@HelioPopTart Жыл бұрын
I love the lukaku meme. Who ever did it is top notch memer
@jesusrasgado4603
@jesusrasgado4603 Жыл бұрын
No.9 = Goals If you’ve the jersey but don’t score them, you’re perceived as failing the team and that can be a lot of pressure for a player.
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