The Jungle Book and Doctor Strange.

I dont like those real life remakes and i am not a fan of the new star wars movies but endgame was pretty epic.

The Last Jedi

Thor: Ragnarok!

Any of the Marvel movies. They're so much better than any of their live action remakes and the recent Star Wars films.

(also making new content*)

@@kp1x can you please explain what they mean, sorry me is dumb lmao

thnks, saved me minutes and minutes of listening to this guy preach it

@@kp1x no, its tldr too long didnt read

@@pinekel1081 But this was a video, that's why he said that

Meet the Robinsons reference, Nice

Kid Cudi

Meet the robinsons was the most underrated Disney movie

@@brandonsaquariumsandterrar8985 Agreed

@@brandonsaquariumsandterrar8985 i second this

more like walt disney was the original protagonist who dies but his student, the current disney, was lost after his master died and let himself gp and eventually succumbed to the dark side

Honestly that’s kinda what happened

Let’s hope they undergo a redemption arc.

It always has been.

you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

You can thank cancel culture for that

Wow such a good point. Even with comedy. Comedy can’t be as funny as it used to be because everyone gets offended

Not having a plan before making the star wars trilogy was a pretty big risk. Pretty "creative", but in the worst way possible.

@@ariellelillian8644 No???

Go woke, go broke!

and 100% of this channel contents 😂

This is why I don’t watch any of the live action remakes. They’re all trash.

Karah Russell they’re not trash, you’re just trying expecting something of what they are not.... people like you tries to make it appear your more complex by trashing something that is something simple for not being more complex suited to what should make you seem to appear smarter to others.... FYI these live actions is there to retell the story to a younger generation that is in a medium that is the most recognizable... it’s like as if it a village telling stories that was passed down from their ancestors to their kids.. they’re telling their old stories with a little twist to appeal to their kids.... you’re trying to make something simple of entertainment that you are too lazy to get from a book so you rather complain a story that is simple for not being complex.... 🤦‍♂️

@@blowc1612 There is no twist and the animation quality of the original films are timeless.

@@blowc1612 You're doing what you accuse someone else of doing. Saying complex a dozen times doesn't make you smart, and refusing to acknowledge the nostalgia bait of modern Disney makes you doubly unintelligent. Kids still watch cartoons these days, so the original animation is still in a familiar medium. What isn't in a familiar medium is cgi animals that don't emote while they're singing, or uncanny valley blue men.

Sharko The Shark but the movies are still amazing.

@@thekrakenhw5813 amazing...ly bad

@@thekrakenhw5813 they were never stelar, now they're just cringey

Leonardo Bacigalupe the original frozen movie was good- the remake is eh but remakes always are. Frozen is so overdone now we don’t appreciate it, but it was a really good movie!

When nostalgia is bad

Boruto.

At least FB tries something else,even if it not as good as HP

Basically the plot of the cursed child

Can you imagine just like Star Wars the Rise of Skywalker but instead its "Somehow, Voldemort survived" and you're like "Oh please god no".

@@rufusgreenleaf2466 When the purpose of the franchise ending was to see him die

Live action remakes serve the purpose of renewing IP rights on old movies.

@@allenmontrasio8962 I agree

While I didn't care for it at least Cruella was an original story

The Cruella one did hold up well, tbh

IT IS A BACKSTORY HOW LOW IS YOUR IQ

*Christopher Nolan**

It’s more like live action new original story’s. Because there’s been a lot of original animated movies. Coco, onward, zootopia and wreck it Ralph to name a few

lotaz true

lotaz most of those are pixar. even though disney owns pixar it is still pretty independent

@Aslam Shah I know but Nolan is known for new, original blockbusters.

Lol god this joke makes me so glad I was never in a spelling bee growing up. Some of those words, on the national stage, feel like they do take 9 minutes just to use in a sentence.

Right? Thought the word was going to be supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

Really gives "1200 word essay" a new meaning, doesn't it?

This is my favorite comment lol

Viktor the victor don’t you mean ‘letter’ not ‘word’?

There are some good ones out there, and the old movies still exist. The constant pump of garbage makes finding a gem easier really

This is a result of decline in competition

Feels like creativity has dried up and we're re-running copies with increasingly degrading quality. The old stuff is tarnished by the lens of weaker newer stuff that's very surface level, and nothing's replacing them.

We've had damn near 50 years of Starwars, people are just tired of it, especially since now that the good starwars material is no longer cannon.

@@JasperForge well that 1% of the old eu that was actually good is something i would give up for the other 99% that was horrible like the yuuzhan vong or darth krayt. or even worse: fucking starkiller

@@minderbart1 ikr. Starkiller is just a dumb power fanatsy and everyone loves him for some reason.

@@minderbart1 Is it wrong that I feel bad for the writers when they came up with the Yuuzhan Vong? I mean at that point they were just plain out of ideas.

@@JasperForge Yeah, I see that. Even outside of the movies, The Clone Wars when it first came out was new and exciting, and interesting. Now, after Rebels and whatever else, to me, The Bad Batch just felt empty. Like it was just made because it would remind people of The Clone Wars.

KennyCelican yup

That and to add more to content to Disney+.

@Sench China made their own Mulan movie in 2009.

@Sench also there are tons of adaptions of the Cinderella fairy tale, the oldest Cinderella movies date over a hundred years back Cendrillon in 1899 and the german Aschenbrödel in 1916.

@Sench Do you think all of Disney's movies are their own original story? 99% of them are based on a previously established story. 1996's Hunchback was literally the book come to life, in a much lighter tone. They even named two of the gargoyles after the author, in tribute. But let me guess? A well-known piece of literature that was written 160+ years before the Disney film, and has been adapted over a dozen times, isn't enough proof for you? I bet your narrow mind is almost invisible if you turn sideways. You understand nothing. Lol

VintageToiletsRock even their Star Wars films are remakes the twats

Sounds kinda like WWE.

Star wars fans wanted more of the same. Naughty Dog games is an example of a company that grew with their audience.

@@DanVillainFilms I was gonna say the same thing!

@@MarceloAbans Wrong. SW Legends diverge into all sort of different thing. I'm not going to deny there are many bad apples there, but if people hold things such as Clone Wars and Kotor in very high regard it's because they managed to create something NEW out of what the movies pressented.

Frozen 2 was meant to be a film that grows with us, for the people who watched Frozen 1 at the time of that release. For all the 10 year old girls who loved Frozen 1 who are now 17, it was meant to be for them, and yet they still managed to make the current 10 year olds be able to enjoy it as well as putting enough hidden stuff that isn't center of attention for the adults to enjoy.

While also maintaining control of the copyright claim so it doesn't lapse, and nobody else gets a chance to tell those stories better than they were 30+ years ago.

Greed

@@LurkerPlus Is that a bad thing though ? A screenwriter can create a similar story and include what he deems missing. Remakes are just plain lazy and rent seeking. Also, no one needs more remakes. These movies are still available, time to create something new without regurgitating old stuff and gobbling it up again

That makes no sense, & it's tiring to hear this excuse over & over

I don’t think they can burn out their net worth is at 200 billion dollars. But I do understand your point :)

​@@theisgood0 They also own a ton of other studios. Disney is just the name of the overall company and a single brand within that company.

They won't though. They'll just see something else selling and buy it up to market it into the dirt.

Yeah i 'member!

Supremeghost member berries are the best

I did that with the force awakens, didn’t make for compelling enough cinema to watch twice

@@Fishlipsandbabyhands "Memberberries" Pretty much what "intertextuality" means but if spoken by someone who doesn't live in an ivory tower.

Who else remember?

I was about to say Nostalgia

@@liberpolo5540 Same

Me: smart Him: Intellectual Me: Oh that sounds more intellectual

@@liberpolo5540 I Say the same

@@liberpolo5540 same

Exactly. It also adds a message to the audience (especially younger viewers) have courage and be kind. That's the core of the film and it resonates throughout. It tells its own story as well as hitting those key Cinderella moments.

that sentence is long forgotten

@@hithere4289 The truth of this is so heartbreaking.

It seems they want to dissociated from Disney entirely. Funny how those rumors of him being an antisemite came out after he died and lost control of the company

Walt is rolling in his grave

*Walter

This is the unfortunate truth. So long as these garbage live-action remakes continue to make boatloads of cash, Disney isn't going to change a damn thing.

-pirating, torrenting, literally anything that gives us the movie for free- Yea some people are not smart enough to know heheh.

people are legit disney stans now...like people grow up brainwashed then as youtubers paid by them to spread the good word..its gross...

Haven't paid for anything except the avenger's franchise.😂

@@arjuscarlet55555 😁🖕

we are the ones at fault for it arent we?

@@aj-sz8mu Yup, we will point out their scummy practices and then proceed to indulge in them

With the exception that nintendo still make great game sequels as well as innovate new ideas. Sony and Microsoft are deadly competition for nintendo.

Not really Nintendo have been try new things as of late. Sony just tried to make games line movies which gets full, at least Nintendo as more of an artistic approach to their games.

@@rhuiden4086 I think that's the big picture. In the videogame world there isn't one king. Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft are all jumbled together in competition. Each console is unique, each property is unique, each control is unique, and each story is unique. Yes RPGs are being over used nowadays but they are still different enough. I can tell an ac odyssey apart from a witcher 3. I can tell kratos apart from atreus. However I can't tell you what's truly different between iron man and war machine, I can't tell you the core difference in tone between any mcu movie. Yes the mcu has good movies but they all feel the same. And it doesn't help that there is no competition. Up until 3 or 4 years ago dc was just churning out shit left, right, and center after the dark knight trilogy. Man of Steel felt like batman in space, bvs was basically a batman movie called superman 2. Sucide squad was just a big steaming shit. And justice league was a cheap attempt at replicating avengers. Overall the film industry is basically disney versus some random art house films and the occasional good dc film. It's boring after a while, and now even tv shows will become disney like. Its annoying that every space thing has to be star wars, every super hero thing has to be marvel, and every animated show has to be kid stuff. Overall that's why Nintendo doesn't feel as bad, because of they go the industry will live on. But if disney goes away, some how then the entire movie industry goes to shit.

It's also fed by a fan base that's resistant to change. They had something with Last Jedi, but fans pushed back because it's not what they envisioned Star Wars being. So instead of leaning into it and telling a new story, they did a complete 180 and gave us meaningless, fan service drivel with Rise of Skywalker.

@@chrismurphy9932 I agree, but I think fans didn't like The Last Jedi because it introduced too many new things that needed to be concluded, but there was only one movie of the saga left. You can't really wrap up *all* that was introduced in one movie with another 2 hour movie, because it's not gradual and wouldn't provoke any real suspense.

@@chrismurphy9932 only the vocal minority hate change in star wars, (the original triology die hards) rest of us like star wars going new directions, TLJ and the sequels in general were just laughably bad nostalgia bait to jerk off to the OG fans

I like change but if its writfen well

@@chrismurphy9932 I mean, a lot of people disliked it because it spent a lot of time saying "Hey, fuck your nostalgia". Hell, Kylo Ren spends a decent chunk of the movie saying basically that line. It's possible to do something different without also tearing down what already exists. They could have easily done either an Old Republic movie or a movie 100 years after everybody in the OT died, but they chose to bring in a bunch of old farts to cash in that nostalgia money. And it definitely doesn't help that they had literally no plot planned at all (like, ya know, this video brings up).

Everything gets old and outdated. Just give it time they'll learn their lesson when the majority stop caring what they do

At this point I'm really wondering if some of those movies are really making billions or someone is cooking those books

@@MariaRodriguez-dx6sm They probably do considering most people would watch first and then give an opinion later. Only hardcore people watch reviews in youtube. It's also important to note that most have low standards in the first place and just want to watch and chill

They still make money probably... but the question is for how long... they have lots of inertia so the changes take time, by the time they realize may be too late

@@johnryanobejero1868 Hey! I like watching reviews on KZfaq. It is so much fun, and it is so thought provoking. I really enjoyed this video. I didn't know I was "hardcore". On another note the low standards of regular people is sad. I think the movies should be more creative. Maybe my standards are higher.

It's a dream from a money making standpoint tho

the star wars trilogy legit could of been good and they just ruined it..their three main characters had fans lining up to care for them...a new trio..and they were as boring as could be

UMM... is that what the porn producers do?

Tbh if i were a company i would be like that too

@@leejoelbeasley5005 lmaooooo 💀

Or worse, a sequel that is a blatant remake with a little adaptation.

I swear Pixar and Marvel are the only 2 studios I care about anymore. I’m boycotting Disney ANIMATION until they release something *original* .

@@drookard1525 Read it again, you’ve clearly misunderstood everything Ive said. And in case you havent noticed, this is about the FILMS.

@@RongSpelingz you can’t boycott Disney if you watch Marvel or Pixar

@@RongSpelingz Dude.... Disney OWNS Pixar AND Marvel studios 😂😂. In order to boycott Disney, you gotta let those go too. They've become so big, they own a lot of media sadly

We have a winner. Disney, I have yet to watch RoS and will probably just pirate it, but let Favreau make more Star Wars and I will be IN. Like the subscribing to Disney+ and buying movie tickets type on in.

While I agree with the sentiment of your post, The Mandalorian is shit. You have set your bar VERY low and you have honestly been duped.

Qonstantin Braeburn You know people have different opinions right? I personally adore The Mandalorian, but you don’t have to.

But for the nostalgia you get the child aka baby Yoda, nostalgia plus cute. We take the bait and the hook is set.

i feel asleep during the 2nd episode. maybe disney isnt for me.

The Disneys are ruining the soil!!!!!!

Disney are with the nazi and communists

I laughed way harder than I'm used to. I'm not easily amused but you sir did it. Congrats

What?

This is why I perfer universal

I agree. I really liked that movie

The only non-intertextual remake

Can't wait to watch the sequel, Rogue One is probably the only other film that adds to the story, gotta mention Clone Wars S7 of course. John Carter of mars and Tron Legacy were new and ahead of their time. Frozen and the Incredibles were also awesome, but there sequels were definitely mediocre money grabs.

Tbh maleficent felt like it’s own thing rather than a remake

I agree. I enjoyed it as well.

Don't give them ideas.

I’d be down for that tbh

donaldthescottishtwin (DTST) me too

Live action song of the south

They can keep doing this forever. When they run out of classic Disney animations to turn into live-action movies they'll still have their old live-action movies, their CGI animations, their animated series, the Pixar movies, the Lucasfilm proprierties and now all of Fox proprerties. They won't ever need to be creative again.

RHJunior like a cow

RHJunior Thanks

So the question now is Did it come back up Or Go through entirely

TheGameMage it went through entirely and they ate it again except this time it's just shit.

So, they are cows chewing on their own crud?

Yeah maybe but I liked the remake of the lion king because it felt like a nature documentary with a story which was really cool, it looked good and it sounded good. I don’t even have nostalgia because I’ve never watched the original lion king.

I described them as: 'dull'

Except for The Jungle Book remake. That was probably the best Disney remake ever. Whatever came after that was a shitshow

@@indranighoshal5232 Aladdin was pretty good

@@indranighoshal5232 jungle book was pretty dark

Yeah you’re reading it right.

Disney's going through a midlife crisis 😂

@@kylamamber9080 Buying all of these studios is like the mid-life crisis Corvette.

Nah, a new IP is risky. With a remake or sequel, bad or good, you will always get people to buy tickets. It’s about money. Whatever magic Disney had is gone until they start taking risks again.

Shit, the first Incredibles has some heavy hitting irony now. All that chasing the glory days stuff.

Boomer baiting is this year's millennial sport...

Why on earth do I see you everywhere?

Lol this one made me laugh 😂

@@maskett653 He's like the other Mustache guys (Guy WITH a mustache, half a mustache), Mal Nexus, Lemon, and Justin Y.

but... but... nostalgia is my favorite emotion!! 😡

My problem is that They are sellouts just to make money. Plus, they are mostly to blame for why 2015-present is a dark period for film history where refreshing original concepts or adaptations of stories that haven't been adapted yet have been completely overshadowed by heartless remakes, reboots, and sequels. Walt would not be pleased at all.

Adrienne Kaio 😂

Her: yes with every cell in my body

That's the point of the scene though. If you look at the cartoon (and sheesh how crazy a cartoon character acts better than you), jasmine had a sly look on her face implying she knew instantly that he was the boy she met at the bazaar. Normally anyone would say no and Jasmine probably would do the same had she not recognized aladdin

Nooo I trust Gravity

Yeah lol

Kush Patel I wouldn’t include marvel really, they are solid movies and the people who make them typically use old comic stories to craft new ones

Kush Patel and Pixar is kind of selling out nowadays too to be honest

@Britannic hayyomatt It depends on what you watch, play and listen to

@Britannic hayyomatt tbh. MOST indie games are better then triple A games. Take for example : Shovel knight,Celeste,Stardew Valley and others. There are also good triple A games but defenetely less memoreable. I heard that there are good indie films. For music idk tho. I don't listen to it (except for meme music). So yeah

Nice spongebob reference

lol the fact that wasn’t even Disney made the joke even better

Disney has transformed into into a physical manifestation of Mr. Krabs

at least ghibli is safe, probably because disney havent taken control of their movies yet

@@zxr9291 Well leave ruining Japanese movies to Netflix

But they do have rivals... The consumers are the problem. If consumers don't wait for reviews that are thoughtful and meaningful before they throw their money, then why would anything ever change? I wait for reviews from critics that I think are honest, professional and consistent. It's extremely rare I go into a movie blindly because I know that by me doing that I might be supporting something I do not want to see more of (potentially). It's a matter of standards. With standards people are able to refine their taste. And with increased taste, the standards rise and that's how you get companies like Disney to lose money on every recent film because almost all them suck and yet even their worst bring in revenue. Until consumers have standards and critics (including Nerdstalgic) stop tip-toing around films being good or bad with objective standards, we will never get competition being viable. There are competitors. But they have less money so they grow slower. Despite having better films, they fall by wayside because consumers don't differentiate or care about the quality gap and give the same monetary value to both. Until consumers start having standards, Disney will reign king forever (or until making films becomes extremely cheap which is probably going to be the case but I digress). Wait before you watch. Find good critics (I think MauLer is a amazing critic and analyzer of media). And think before you spend that dollar. When enough people do that, there will be a shift. A huge shift.

DreamWorks step UP step UP

The issue I have is Disney's monopoly on certain intellectual properties, some of which they created, but some of which they paid for. Star Wars is the perfect example. The toughest part of movie making is getting people to care about the film/story. It requires those in charge of making/producing the film to be invested in the quality of the story as well. It's not a problem that you can just spend more money on to solve. The loophole Disney has found over the last 15 years is that they can buy an IP that someone else made viewers invested in. Disney doesn't have to really care about making good Star Wars films because nobody else is allowed to make Star Wars films. There are a multitude of fanmade shorts that, over the course of 5-20 minutes, do a far better job of story telling than the new trilogy (Vader: Shards of the Past, Darth Maul are tthe 2 best IMO). It's the same reason why EA will never really try to make their Madden NFL game any better. They've paid for a monopoly on the IP.

@@fishsauce617 I MISS DREAMWORKS

I feel like this is a really overlooked point

Episode 7 - JJ "Eff George's ideas, let's just do a soft reboot." Kathleen "Luke has to be female, the Force is female!" Episode 8 - Ruin Johnson "I can do whatever I want? I want to diss all the Ep 7 setup, subvert expectations, destroy Luke, attack capitalism, and leave you with a total mess to resolve." Episode 9 - JJ "well ain't this an effed up mess. Guess we should have had an outline for all three flicks, but I've never been good at endings, just setups. Oh, well, let's just bring back Palpatine, cash our checks, and call it a day." Kathleen "And lets eff with the gays while we're at it by teasing a gay relationship but making it a momentary background girl-on-girl kiss that can be cut easily for the Chinese release. The Force is female!"

Rather ep8: ”fuck the past”, ep9 ”lets avoid total catastrophe, hide that we had no story nor plan, and try to please every one.”

Remember, Kylo Ren is the villain. He’s wrong. If you paid any actual attention to the themes, you’d probably understand that the movie is telling us to avoid letting a fixation on the past hold us back and instead learn from it to improve ourselves and the world.

@You tuber Those are the same fans that like the MCU, Fast & Furious, Disney remakes, Aquaman, Despicable Me movies (including Minions)... and they know to appriciate great films like Infinity War, The Dark Knight.... I agree with you that The Last Jedi is great on its own, but it also has two other goals it has to achieve: being a middle chapter or a trilogy and respecting the overall franchise. The "respecting the franchise" part is debatable, but I think it's a bad middle chapter of a trilogy. It doesn't do much with the setup from Force Awakens, and it doesn't leave much setup for the final chapter in the trilogy. The best example is Fin. While he was a stormtrooper turned rebel in Force Awakens, his story in Last Jedi has nothing to do with it. Him leaving the First Order is mentioned once, when he's fighting Phasma. He could've tried to save other stormtroopers, but instead he has an unrelated side-quest. And I don't think he was left with much of a setup for the next film.

Well that was a case of the different directors, with no one writing anything down - all three movies should have been in penned script of a coherent story, 8 was a waste of space and was such an incoherent meaningless story it wasn't even funny, characters were throw away, and they went out of their way to make zero sense in the context of 7 which literally ruined the entire overarching story - Mr subvert you expectations never should have been given the movie in the first place.

I would've enjoyed a Rian Johnson trilogy SO MUCH MORE than a JJ Abrams trilogy. Even if Rian's sucked it would've at least been new. JJ's was doomed from the start; Rian at least tried to make something good and risky.

Imagine if a different company made the remakes. I actually don’t think anyone would give a shit if the disney name and songs were not slapped to the film.

@emmy lite Yeah. Disney's Star Wars is as nonsensical and silly as people's preconceived notions about Star Wars.

I like this but im not gonna like cuz its at 666

Well that’s along the same idea he’s trying to say, they’re bad because they focus on the moments not the story, and people still watch disney movies because of the nostalgia tho

Yeah but that's just the general statement of Hollywood at the moment, not exclusive to Disney

Didn't they literally just release Raya?

by then disney will own 100% of the global entertainment industry and there wont be any way to go around them

No, they’ll remake the remakes for generations too young to remember

No, they'll keep doing it til every movie brings a loss. Then they'll find a way to make it so everyone has no choice but to replace their movie collections at even greater inflated prices, put the "best" stuff behind absurdly huge paywalls, and make sure that all are only available for a limited time. . Don't think for a second that the US wouldn't revamp its power grid just to make all old tech useless so nobody can watch their VHS and DVD anymore. Then they'll sic a government agency on everyone to track down all the downloads and rips, and start jailing people or just erase them all with malware that ALL protections will be specifically built to permit through. . Trust me...when all this shit stops making money for them, and they've tried EVERYTHING to change it...they'll absolutely go off the deep end and start obliterating entertainment just so they can charge it all pay-per-view at crazy-high rates.

All pop culture franchises from the 80s would like to disagree with you. (See: cartoons based on toys, videos games that started on the NES)

Agree about nostalgia pandering of Disney but that line is from Kylo Ren ( the villain who is wrong ) not Disney itself

@@a.f9234 Yeap, you're right, big Kylo Ren/Ben Solo fan here :) Still quote-worthy and ironic because TROS pretty much retcons TLJ to nostalgia-pander to the OT/PT SW fans. Have a nice day!

@@nadariff08 Disney is afraid to take risks they did it once in the last jedi and they are afraid to do it again because some fans wouldn't like it

@@nadariff08 TLJ just gives the illusion of changing things up. It subverts so much it subverts itself. By the end of the movie everything is just like in the beginning. They present a good idea of Kylo and Rey teaming up to let the past (Jedi/Sith) behind. But then drop it to continue all the same stupid formula we know by heart. The same goes for Finn's sacrifice, something new in Star Wars, a main character dying for real, nop, just kidding. It is kind of stupid to say let the past die when you are basing so much of your movie on the og trilogy, like Rey's training facing the dark cavern just like Luke did. The worst of all is that for some reason they didn't bother to write a whole story that made sense before starting the trilogy, as a result we have a story written by 2 guys who are trolling each other a driving each others ideas to the ground.

IT BROKE NEW GROUND!!!!!!

Rabelo Resh it’s what’s wrong with modern economy really. People fall for flashy sales pitches and every company is now using the business model where most $ is going into marketing and not into the product.

That's why I avoid trailers, except when I'm going to the cinemas.

Jokers trailer was a masterpiece and lived up to the movie.

From a profitability stand point a mediocre film that does well on opening weekend at the box office is better than a good film that catches on slowly.

@@sociallysnow7606 I thought it was mediocre with some good bits. If you took away the Joker property and called it say, Clownman, it would have been the same film.

This is the way.

This is the way.

It's alright it's not as amazing or mind-blowing as people hyped it up to be. Really overhyped.

If we think about it the end of season 2 is starting to relie on past characters, of course I love it but it is the case.

@@dugoo3405 yeah but I like how some of those characters e.g bobs fett weren't fleshed out and we still had a lot to learn about them

I'm supposing there's a way to make intertextuality _work_ to make movies better (guy flat out says so), but I can't say how because Disney hasn't really done it. It's neither intertextuality nor cheap nostalgia nor even fan service if you just shit on everything that went before. And there's a huge gap between "fan service" and "dumping those stupid fans who spend stupid amounts of money on our stupid IP". One is a minor flaw in a movie, the other is, I hope, the death knell for a suicidal entertainment behemoth.

@@Trollificusv2 Then look at other movies, not just Disney ones.

@@BambinaSaldana I do. But I also spend 30 seconds explaining why the LucasFilm product is shit, for people who fail to understand this, or who just approve of things that _other people_ liked being turned to trash. And I also spend 30 seconds, once in a while, to reply to people who excuse such studio behavior with arguments that are little better than "Well...so what?"

@Cactus Juice totally agree. mando uses intertextuality, but it makes its own thing for itself BEFORE giving us cameos and stuff so we don’t just watch it for FOR the intertexuality

Afraid of losing their power

The fear of loss is a path to the darkside.

They are so powerful, the only thing they'd ever fear is...losing their power.

Huh, like Azula in the ending of Avatar, what a coincidence...

Disney has grown since its humble beginnings that now it is overwhelmed by its own greatness.

Thanos probably wouldn't. But Ultron... I can imagine him singing something while effortlessly beating the team (and then choir of hundreds of mini-Ultrons).

Wrong, it would be animated film and then they would do a live action of it with the exact same songs

@@illusiveman3325 ultron " allow me to sing you a song" bulls on parade starts

_The Avengers- The musical_ _Featuring Mickey Mouse, because hey, we make so much money off of him so let's put him in every movie we can._

Thanos singing while explaining Strange how his world ended and how he's supposed to save the universe. Also, I would include a song after Gamora kills fake-Thanos, and while they are with Red Skull looking for the soul stone

The same, yet somehow worse.

@@beinerthchitivamachado874 Exactly. And add in animals who can't even emote because Disney.

It was so boring

@@michaelstrong5383 LMAO, yeah. And artistic nuances like the Green in Skar's eyes that represent his envy.

And then when they try to add something new like the dung beetle or the Beyonce song people just want the nostalgia because it's comfortably farmiliar. And better.

Remakes fall under the umbrella of “intertextuality,” because the problem is bigger than just their remakes.

I don’t think remakes themselves are bad. But you have to actually improve it and people have to actually want a remake. I would love to see a remake of Danny Phantom (and I’m not the only one) because the original was incredibly flawed and people wanted more. They wanted certain aspects explored that weren’t and they wanted Butch Hartman to have nothing to do with it. No one wanted a powerful girl reboot or a 5th Ben 10 series.

@@hanaomer4419 I haven’t completely watched it, but they remade Ducktales but instead of just copy and pasting it they changed up the story improved on it, and now it’s considered the shining example of what a remake should be.

They were already recycling old folklore in the movies we loved anyway, people just don't realize it.

@@rgderen88 But now they're recycling their own stuff. The should have stuck with recycling other people's stuff and just put their own spin on it.

Agreed. I am tired seeing ads for a movie that came out a decade or two ago the only thing being different is added cultural appropriation to a fictional story

well said!!!

Counterpoint: we were having a movie night at the school I teach in last night and I was watching Aladdin (2019) for the first time and hating it. I’ve avoided the remakes like the plague and haven’t given Disney a dime for them. A kid noticed I wasn’t enjoying it and I said it was a lazy cash grab because the movie already existed and the kid put it into perspective for me because she said, “I’ve never seen this movie before. Maybe it was for us kids and not you?” Damn, the kid had a point!

What about pixar

@@blackkyurem2783 Pixar has become formulaic in a lot of people’s eyes. Like certain emotional beats are there to make you cry, but they’re often more contrived now, just there because it’s what’s expected. Like the sacrifice in Soul.

@@allyli1718 Toy Story has been perfect though

Give marvel a few more months they will fall

@@labibsaud8064 why

Is this guy with the gaming channel??

Yeah i always thought they were just call backs to memorable moments used to make another new moment fell good

It acts as a coda, it clasps the beginning and the end of saga. It's so well executed and packs so much emotions it's amazing. They've nailed it right then and there.

Not really though

Nah that was super corny and ruined the moment lmao.

And blame you if you don't like it

Actually what they're doing is, they're baiting you, the parent. So, now you're an adult, you will take your kids to that movie. And it will give you nostalgic feelings.

You're right. Nothing compares to the hand drawn-style animation from Disney's golden era.

The emotional expressions like this allowed in animation is such a big strength of the medium, and yet Disney (and hollywood in general) keep making live-action remakes of stuff because... i don't really know why. Because animation is still seen as kid stuff? It's bloody sad is what it is.

Hesitantly excited? She's suspecting he's Aladdin, since he used that exact phrase and posture earlier.

They definitely can, just not the same posture shown in the animation

Neither of which were their originals anyway- Moana is yet another old legend they animated and Big Hero Six is a comic.

And big hero six sucked anyways

rgderen88 “Moana is yet another old legend” ...by your logic, every classic animated Disney film isn’t original because they were all based on old fairytales and legends (particularly from the Grimms brothers.) Technically it’s so far removed from the legend that it can be considered “original.” I agree with you on Big Hero 6 though, but I’ve heard they also changed it quite a bit from the source material since the original comic never performed well. The point is that they’ve delivered a considerable “original” spin on these IPs and they should keep going with them because they provide a lot of potential for a great movie series.

@@Dert26 "That was his mistake"

... Neither of those where good imo (specially Moana, not really good beyond the technical aspects).

and everybody will have robot limbs and thanos will be back for absolutely no reason

Just like real comic books! Currently Marvel is rehashing their zero to superhero narrative: a conflicted, bland-ish hero rises to the occasion alongside a more interesting supporting cast. The recent films stand out more on effects rather than unique storytelling. If they don't change things right, it will be like retelling Spiderman's origin story with every new hero.

They may. We will not know until we see how the post-Endgame universe is received by critics and audiences

@@krim7 do you think they would go bat shit for thanos with a robot arm?

@@alfredgomez3128 See that's the thing. . . . What if that happens??

Don't sell yourself short, Disney's intertextuality is only what cashgrab looks like after it has caked on the cheap make-up and stinging perfume.

It’s the same word

Intertextuality sounds like one of those bullshit words people make up to impress their bosses. Basically, it's a Barney Stinson word, like linkativity.

It's the same thing really

I was gonna say "nostalgia" because that's all they have going right now. So I was about half right.

Suros regime

Nice destiny reference!

I kno a way to use nosalgia in war! Make japan nostalgic for being nuked

As someone who knew jack all about the different Spider-Man universes it was a nice intro to it. I loved that movie.

"I really want to hire conjoined triplets in Thailand for... A thing." That's what that movie was, a perfect abomination against linear narrative that even the most vanilla book nerd couldn't legitimately attack... as a sick perv I loved it, but throw a copy back to Stan when he worked for Timely and he would've sat on it...

What was the intertextuality in that movie?

Hotdog 0:46 To my understanding, References Of Source material reworked to make it feel the same but different

I watched the movie with the barely the basic knowledge of anything related to Spiderman. I loved it and I didn't have to know a lot of things of the past to enjoy it.

Most definitely old people today

Oddly, that’s what most of Disney-movies used to be about. They made old, great stories into movies, and even made new stories in that same spirit, and it was great. Now it’s just rehashing the same shit with an unpopular political agenda slapped on it that kills any creativity or connection to the human condition.

Yeo make your comment the next Disney movie that pulls our heartstrings. Sounds like something in their ball park. Could be a Pixar movie.

Old world blues

Its simple Rick