The Problem with Front Lever
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Күн бұрынDo Weighted Pull-ups carry over to Front lever? Do Abs play a role, or only back? Why some people found it so hard to achieve while others get in in couple of months?
It's really intriguing how a single skill can be as iconic and popular, while at the same time have so many different shades and uncertainties around it. I don’t think I have to introduce front lever to any of the viewers. However, whats ironic is that probably each one of us has certain different belief or understanding of both technical aspects and the difficulty that front lever carries. On paper, we can all agree there’s nothing complicated about it - it’s just holding straight body under the bar or the rings. In reality tough, front lever creates one of the biggest confusions I’ve ever faced since starting bodyweight training. Some call it a beginner move, other say its as hard or harder than planche. Some get it in 2 months, other battle for years without any results. Dozens of exercises, drills and progressions floating around the internet. Dozens of myths, technical mistakes and theories appearing every day in the posts, videos and comments under them. And its crazy that all of it happens while some of us sleep in full front lever position and the others can’t get out from the advanced tuck zone. In this video I will try to answer one bothering question that’s been on my mind for years, why is front lever so hard to some people while so easy to the others?
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0:00 Opening
1:45 The History and Anatomy of Front Lever
3:23 The Survey - Making Off
6:09 The Survey - Results
8:25 The Role of Abdominals
10:27 Front Lever Mechanics
15:43 Height/Weight and Front Lever
19:59 Specificity - Big Deal?
23:28 Ending
Big thank you to all the people completing the survey and those whose voices are in the video - despite of them being aware or not ;) - Kuba, Refael, Davide, Marko, Pere.
#frontlever #calisthenics #survey
@hogabajoga 3 жыл бұрын
How to get a front lever: Step 1: Neglect Legs Step 2: Train neck and be Mike Tyson
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much... 😂
@AvB.83 3 жыл бұрын
Step 0: Be small
@hogabajoga 3 жыл бұрын
@@AvB.83 I wish but my package weighs me down
@saihinadir 3 жыл бұрын
@@hogabajoga Some of us have to pay a heavy price to get that Front Lever. You know what there is left for you to do brother...
@hogabajoga 3 жыл бұрын
@@saihinadir I agree. I must tape it to my neck
@SaturnoMovement 3 жыл бұрын
This is gold man. Thanks a lot for putting this together. This video will live for a last time and will help millions. So refreshing to watch so much work and passion in a single video. Cheers! - Gabo
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Wow Gabo it's so surprising to see you here. Im glad you enjoyed, its such a nice thing to see people like you are watching 🙏🏻 Cheers
@SaturnoMovement 3 жыл бұрын
@@FrinksmovementTV till the very end brother :) actually I was surprised no one has ever made such a video about front lever touching on points that goes beyond the usual information, but the answer is clear: effort and passion are required for this to happen. Respect to your work! KZfaq just recommend me the press to handstand one hehe exited to see what’s that about and it will probably reveal why presses are so easy for me 😂 the same why this clearly revealed why front lever is so damn hard for me 😂 keep it up mate! - Gabo
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
@@SaturnoMovement Thank you so so much. Im so glad you discovered the videos, and decided to take your time to click an watch 🙏🏻 Sent you a message on IG btw.
@zanewalsh1812 2 жыл бұрын
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@BodyweightWarrior 3 жыл бұрын
Great video boss
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see you here Tom. Glad you enjoyed ;)
@mvh2834 3 жыл бұрын
@@FrinksmovementTV so you’re boss
@burhansalaria 3 жыл бұрын
Tom love you bro💕💕💕
@fabioesini9092 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, great videp
@Sh-gc8td 3 жыл бұрын
Ey bOss i habe a seizure
@rumiexistence 3 жыл бұрын
the problem with front lever: You can't do it.
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
;((
@AbnormalBeings 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! From my personal experience and from training others people who learn the front lever quickly are those that are lighter & shorter (5 feet 2-5 as an example) where as heavier/taller people (5 feet 9+) take a longer time (years even) to learn the full front lever. Makes sense. Taller you are, Longer the lever, harder the hold
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Appreciate your comment man ;) Keep up your stuff!
@ThomasStuijfzand 3 жыл бұрын
I think it is also genetics. Me for example. I am almost 90KG and 184 and have 1 minute front lever. And I got 20+ seconds in a couple of months. I see people train with far better weight and genetics then me train harder and more often and don’t have the FL. And I can maybe do 3 seconds full planche and I train it for 5+ years. And I have a friend who could do maltese in a couple of months. Some people are PUSH gifted and some people are PULL gifted!
@barschbubi 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasStuijfzand i just watched ur front lever vid. In my opinion you bending the hips and protracting too much. If you would hold it with perfect form your 1 minute hold would probably go down to about 5 sec.
@ThomasStuijfzand 3 жыл бұрын
@@barschbubi yoo its from 1 year ago. Summer 2019. I think I can do 40 - 45 sec PERFECT form, and then the last 15 sec a little bent
@xoledas8909 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasStuijfzand Genetic is one of the main reason for your height. This video doesn't say that it's impossible above 180cm or 80kg, just that it is more rare to find people with these metrics that have a full front lever. I am like you 184, and after 3 years of training I have like 10 seconds of good form maximum. Height and weight plays an important role here but there is also work and training
@tahiel 3 жыл бұрын
Well done YT for recommend me this.
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, its very nice to see this type of comment ;)
@alenajzeli6401 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad It recommended it to me aswell ! :D
@luiska49 3 жыл бұрын
Most people watching this probably wouldn't even notice the amount of quality put into it. Producing such informative and good looking documentary with only 2120 subscribers is unbelievable! Keep up the good work my friend!!!
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
I actually produced it having
@luiska49 3 жыл бұрын
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@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@stanco. 3 жыл бұрын
2.1k 3 days ago and now 4.7k Looking good 🔥
@3enjamin 3 жыл бұрын
way to 6K now, you're on recommendation front page KZfaq for me, although haven't watched any vid on channel before. Alg works in your favor now.
@Hamza97 3 жыл бұрын
This was a fantastically well made video. Well done brother and thank you for sharing
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!!
@Betach8 Жыл бұрын
Hi hamza
@elad2054 Жыл бұрын
Hamzaa
@cali_shubh Жыл бұрын
The masculinity king also watches cali videos great to see that❤
@Calisthenics_Enjoyer Жыл бұрын
Is hamza learning the front lever?
@panah2892 3 жыл бұрын
We need a planche version of this
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Got it in my Ideas notebook ;)
@panah2892 3 жыл бұрын
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@Ex0dus111 3 жыл бұрын
So true, the planche is still a mystery to me.
@jared9402 3 жыл бұрын
YES that would be awesome!
@bboyraviel2911 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ex0dus111 why?
@alec1020 3 жыл бұрын
11:25 so could i theoretically just grow a really big afro and soak it in water to achieve the front lever
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I can totally see that as an option. But you gotta train your neck for that, so please progressively overload
@YeraiStreetWorkout 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best vídeo about front lever that I have ever seen, congratulations and thank you for the effort
@tjnerox5268 3 жыл бұрын
muy bueno el video, la verdad que si yerai, yo por ahora levanto un 50% de mi peso en una rep, peso 62kg y levanto 30kg en una rep, y por ahora no tengo el front, aun asi tengo advanced tuck por 12 segundos, tienes alguna recomendacion yerai?
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 🙏🏻 Appreciate the fact big yt people like you watch
@muertomoridodesaparecido 3 жыл бұрын
what's up messiah?
@polar0552 3 жыл бұрын
No entiendo nada del vídeo pq no se inglés xd , ayuda
@eliasguzman5370 2 жыл бұрын
@@polar0552 Activa los subtitulos
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Damn ! I think the KZfaq algorithm had a stroke of genius in recommending this channel to me ! +1 Subscriber directly
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Wow thats so freaking nice. Thank you 🙏🏻
@ThaSideWeed 3 жыл бұрын
Saaame. This was right after 2 rows that had the same video on each row. And here I was thinking my recommendations were broken.
@squash9189 8 ай бұрын
The problem with the front lever is that I can’t do it
@dmolinaro 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing work homie. This what the bodyweight community needs: no cookie cutter, non scientifically supported answers, but actual well thought out stuff. Absolutely loved the ending and how actually the question is left unanswered (obv on purpose), there's no "hidden technique/rep scheme/drill". The sooner people stop trying to hack their training, the sooner they will realize where the actual answer lies: in the training, in the repetition of what needs to be done and in the patience required to keep on doing it for a long ass time.
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Davide. For your contribution, for everything. Im really glad its your voice that opens up the video. As im saying, always like to learn from you!
@acestrike40 Жыл бұрын
But arent bodyweight movements related to science?
@CalistersOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really happy that I got this recommended. Your explanation is very clear, and I can imagine how much time you put into making this quality content just by seeing the quality of this video. I'm pretty sure you will hit 100k very soon and Cheers to the calisthenics community all over the world 🍻
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@jamiedenneboom8482 Жыл бұрын
One of the best underrated channels I've EVER seen. Insaneuously good information
@piotrrkacperr4262 3 жыл бұрын
Deep insight, great editing, valuable content, handsome boi...oh wait a sec... Anyway, GREAT JOB, humanity needs more YT channels like yours!
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
I could not agree more on a handsome boi part... oh wait a sec. I meant valuable content. Thank you Piotr!
@GeometryDashDyno 3 жыл бұрын
This is incredible, thanks for your hard work and I’m hoping the algorithm pushes this video out to even more people. Excellent stuff man.
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you so much!
@AshtonFitness 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is going to blow up, I know it for sure. This is some real high-quality content. There's nothing like this in the calisthenics community, so it's great to see such in-depth content! Also, as a content creator myself, I really appreciate how much work and editing went into this. The editing alone is mind-blowing, it must've taken AGES. Well done man!
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you soo much for this comment!!!
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Just checked out your channel and i remind myself i actually came through one of your videos in the past already. Thank you once again Ashton!
@AshtonFitness 3 жыл бұрын
@@FrinksmovementTV You're welcome! And hahaha I thought you might have come across my channel! I was getting nervous at the beginning when you said "there are dozens of myths on KZfaq" because then you started pulling up all the thumbnails of popular front lever tutorials and I wasn't sure if mine would come up hahaha. There is SO MUCH nonsense out there when it comes to front lever tutorials, it's actually ridiculous. There are big influencers out there who have made front lever tutorials without being able to front lever, and it's insane. The really annoying thing about making a claim like that is that it's almost impossible to prove. However, if you've been training the front lever (and calisthenics in general) for a long time, you can tell whether someone has either genuinely held a front lever, or simply performed a front lever raise and screenshot the "front lever" at the top of the raise. There are big calisthenics/fitness influencers who have done this for the thumbnails of their videos. But I know you know all of this already :). I could tell from the choice of thumbnails you used when you were talking about this issue, and the way you spoke about the front lever really showed you'd done your KZfaq research around the topic. The most annoying thing about these tutorials is that they spread misinformation that can injure beginners. I learned this the hard way myself after following front lever tutorials that claimed I could learn it "In 4 weeks", or that I could learn it "fast". I would injure myself repeatedly because I was trying to rush the progressions to learn it as quickly as possible. In the end, it took 3 years for me to learn lol. So thank you for contributing some high quality content to the calisthenics community. I feel like there's space for it and people really appreciate it. And again, well done on the editing - the amount of editing in this video is insane, and it's all so good.
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Once again thank you Ashton! Its an honour 🙏🏻 Keep doing your stuff ;)
@DanielKaganov 3 жыл бұрын
Immediately subscribed! I’m a med student here in the states and also love Calisthenics. I love your detailed explanations, anatomy descriptions, and use of data and surveys so awesome to see you apply all of this to body weight training. Now let me just master the front lever hahaha
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@marioparra9337 Жыл бұрын
Dude, this is one of the best videos I've seen, period. We need more content like this in the calisthenics community. Thanks a lot for your work. Peace!
@artemis7642 5 ай бұрын
Not one of the best... It is "The best" video on calisthenics
@kickmonlee3390 3 жыл бұрын
For me I was stuck at advanced tuck front lever until I actually started doing some advanced tuck pulls and straddle front level holds for time. It took a few months but today i just got a good 5 second front lever on my rings! I still need much more training though
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Man! Congrats for today!
@dandogamer Жыл бұрын
Skip the tuck front lever it doesnt help. Do decline front levers instead. This way of thinking is also being found out by other cali guys for planche with amazing results!
@dandogamer Жыл бұрын
Former average guy does a very nice scientific breakdown of this. If you are taller you basically need to increase your strength/flexibility to tilt the pivot point in your favour
@alinaqawe2424 Жыл бұрын
@@dandogamer are you saying to just do the negative instead of tucking?
@matusmoro955 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel is really a one of a kind in the calisthenics community. Keep up the quality work, it is appreciated greatly.
@whelmking6497 3 жыл бұрын
Easily the best breakdown of the front lever I've seen, and I've seen a few. Amazing work and very appreciated.
@eastsidaz141 3 жыл бұрын
By far the best front lever video i've seen! It is all well covered in details, you did a great job 👍
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Man for real! Thats super nice of you thank you!
@Spar7anProjec7 3 жыл бұрын
My 165cm tall ex-gymnast friend with short limbs : "you just need to try tbh. Planche and FL are not that difficult, you should achieve them pretty fast if you keep training hard enough" Me, 195cm tall with chimpanzee arms and legs that cover 2/3 of my body : "I really have this ardent desire to punch you". Jokes aside, great video and great channel, I'm learning and having fun at the same time while watching your educational videos.
@matusmorong2716 3 жыл бұрын
i feel you man i am 195cm too
@CaptainCalisthenics 3 жыл бұрын
lol nice. I wasted 2 years on FL with no progress- if you want, see the vid on my channel to avoid my mistakes
@mutasimeltayeb 3 жыл бұрын
"2/3 of my body" man u just made my day, can't stop laughing
@BOodidarma 3 жыл бұрын
Just try bouldering, youll be really good if you can learn to use your feet.
@dearjonas7442 3 жыл бұрын
@@BOodidarma yeah man just wanted to write that. Me at 170 cm feel so frustrated when my tall friend tells me "yeah man I just tried it. Felt like i skipped a few steps but lol."
@vitorbueno4301 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I can't even describe my thoughts on this video. Such a great quality, something that I don't expect to see not even in channels with 1M+ subscribers. Thank you.
@lukaseqq Жыл бұрын
awww man, its a incredible analysis, love that so much!! Im gonna watch more your videos cause the effort you put into creating the content is huge. thank you :D
@MichaelDeLaRosa 3 жыл бұрын
Algorithm doing work because this was in my recommended
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Feeling blessed haha!
@noviceatthis9304 3 жыл бұрын
Same, and I subscribed..quality video!🔥
@korniminorni780 3 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed by the effort put into this video! Absolutely great and informative stuff! Hats off
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@petier184 Жыл бұрын
this content is golden, very creative and unique I don't understand how you are not in the mainstream calisthenics should become much popular
@christosk2379 3 жыл бұрын
man, this is by far the best video about calisthenics i have ever seen..ty and good job bro
@skadiman282 3 жыл бұрын
I love when people puts a lot of effort into something and provides quality content. Really loved the video, soon im going to start training FL and thanks to this, i can make my routine more focused on weigthed pulls. Thank you again, really liked the detailed information.
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you! That is my goal!
@joaodobbin 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing work. This type of content is what we need in the fitness community. I was just thinking how my FL game improved after I started doing weighted pull ups
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Nice man! And thank you so much for the positive words i truly appreciate it!
@saoodkhan96 3 жыл бұрын
This video is gold! Such high quality content ! Well done man! Thank you so much
@GintokyoGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Great in depth study you did on you own. I remember taking your survey on Reddit. This is top quality content. Thanks for sharing!
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
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@justaguyfromreddit 3 жыл бұрын
So interesting because ( I am 180cm so not that small ) and I achieved 20 sec Full front lever with good form from a bad straddle in just of 3 weeks of grease the groove method! Guess I’m made for front levering ahaha
@justaguyfromreddit 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome editing btw
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yeah its such a multifactorial thing it seems!
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Paul!
@mocromo2010 3 жыл бұрын
first vid I watched from you and this is awesome man! keep pumping these out and you'll blow up in no time
@Sofiane_Oucif 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most informative channels out there when it comes to bodyweight training🙌
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so! Thank you so much!
@judahwagner2488 3 жыл бұрын
this is my first time youtube put one of your video's in my recommended, and after watching all I can say is instant subscription! keep it up.
@vadimsarthannel4565 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely perfect quality! Thank you for your work mate! Appreciated
@pandrai7411 3 жыл бұрын
your sense of analysis is brillant , very good quality video
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated! Thank you!
@ahmed_mak9 3 жыл бұрын
Subscribed after 5min of watching this. Really underrated channel. Honestly I feel so triguerred for not participating in this survey. Frontlever is my favortie exercice and I would have loved to fill up your survey to contribute to this masterpiece of a video. Well done and keep it buddy. Hard work always pays off :D
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Great to hear! You will have chance in new year ;)
@stanleykachuik2589 Жыл бұрын
Stellar effort on this video. The mental toughness shows!
@trungkhuong8826 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing my guy, not only the science behind the video but also the explanation as well. Just wonderful.
@emersonguest2143 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the analysis, nice stuff. I'm a tallish heavyweight, doing 5s full front lever at 92kg and 183cm. I don't do weighted pullups but it took me about 2 years to get the FL. I found that working on scapular depression exercises was most important. Slow hanging tuck to tuck hold repetitions, 15s adv tuck holds focusing on scapular depression, etc.
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! And thank you for sharing ;)
@petrosmarkantonakis6882 3 жыл бұрын
Depression and retraction?
@juliocalistenia7126 3 жыл бұрын
Gold content, hope I will do some good quality search like this one in the future. Thanks a lot!
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Best of luck with that! Let me know when you do! ;)
@TheAlkarin 3 жыл бұрын
Just amaizing. And tbh, the opening audio is something I really started considering. Since front lever is not the classic pull that everybody usually think off. Really a gold mine of content.
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah for sure! Thank you for the positive feedback. Its highly appreciated!
@thelatrinesmind233 3 жыл бұрын
this is amazingly important! it,s really interesting and the animations are beyond expectations! you did an outstanding job! congratulations!
@DrTsako 3 жыл бұрын
We agree on so many points bro 😮 your sense of analysis is brillant, and the video is wery well edited ! And how did you do the human model doing front lever ? This could serve me
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! So I made all the animations myself but I cannot do 3D rigging, so I just paid someone for an order to make it for me. Was not easy and lots of revisions were needed but it looks fantastic. Actually first time any 3D OBJ file animations for me, but it opens so much new doors.. If you need anything just let me know bro ;)
@lu0nline 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for the effort and contribution to the community! I think it's also important to mention that people who are pretty strong at weighted pullups but still suffer with advanced FL progressions generally benefit a lot from doing Adv Tuck FL Rows . I have a feeling its due to the specificity of scapular retraction while having that heavy lever component from the lower body pulling you down.
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah i agree the scapula retraction is underrated. I wish i talked a bit more about this in the video. But it was still long so maybe next time one day ;) Thank you so much for the positive comment!
@flowmotion_sw7616 3 жыл бұрын
this channel is so underrated. Love your videos. keep going.
@phineasg7709 Жыл бұрын
We need more people performing quality small scale research in their fields of interest.
@gotasdemovimiento1333 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that, this is absolutely incredible!
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it! Thank you ;)
@TysonE 3 жыл бұрын
18:36 was peak editing XD This must have taken a long time to make man, thanks for putting the work in!
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this particular segment took months alone. Thanks Tyson XD Cool to see you here. BWSS1 Fan here
@michaelcoppola7523 3 жыл бұрын
This video is astonishing. If you took the time to tackle more of the holds you see performed on the bar/still rings the same way you did for the front lever and wrote a book with all of this data/theory/insight, I truly believe that every (aspiring) gymnast would buy it. I can tell you I surely would. Great, GREAT job man!!
@adamgarcia1270 3 жыл бұрын
This is possibly the best video I have ever seen regarding the front lever. Keep up the awesome content man!
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! And wow really thank you for that
@raily9713 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel has one of the most valuable content on youtube in terms of calisthenic and bodyweight ... Keep going mate. Greetings from Spain!
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings! And thank you, thats really nice of you!
@harshchhachhia8482 3 жыл бұрын
1)Genetics : You forgot the importance of fibre type distribution. One with more type 2 fibres in back muscles are gonna find it easier. This also explains why even some tall guys are able to do full FL while some short guys can't. 2)Specificity : Training straight arm strength will improve straight arm scapular strength and bent arm strength will fade away after a limited period of time. 3) Some people are pull gifted : Some people are good at pulling strength overall while some at pushing, this is genetic. That's why for some planche is easier and for others too hard while FL being easier. These points explains why there is so much discrepancy in the survey. Consider them as well. But I am afraid any survey can predict these accurately. And at last, the MOST important thing - we don't know how they train, they should learn something from this channel and train more effectively. Thanks for reading. 😊
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for stating your opinion! Specificity was actually touched upon at the end ;)
@alfredek4275 3 жыл бұрын
So nice to see this kind of in-depth analysis for Cali moves! Keep up the good work man! Being 183 cm myself I can relate very much to the results mentioned in the video. I can do a pullup with 55% of bodyweight and only hold adv. tuck for about 10 sec.
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Will do! Thank you for sharing 👍👍
@JuanLopez-tq7zf 3 жыл бұрын
Wow..... now this is quality information, well explained, in good context, and definitely deserving of more viewership!!! First video I watch from you and already a sub keep it up bro!!! You’re doing something great here💯👌🏻
@SirWetBiscuit 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible analysis, sir! Here's my anecdote: I'm about 178 cm, 86 kg. Weighted pullups have done nothing for me, even at max 72% bodyweight. This may just have to do with an enjoyment perspective, but focusing on one arm pullups and explosive pulling has had more carryover for me. I initially unlocked full FL at ~80 kg by doing focused straight arm and bent arm work. I then tried to gain weight and did weighted calisthenics. I think I'm past the point where adding weight purely to increase 1 RM benefits FL, and focusing too much on weighted pulls was more regressive. I've been focusing on planche for about 3 months now with minimal pulling work, but can do straddle FL again for ~6 sec. I attribute this to the amount of scapular stability work I've been doing, thus greatly increasing deltoid and trapezius strength. I've gotten much better at keeping my scapula depressed. Additionally, just getting my body reaclimated to an extended position via weighted hollow holds (Dragon flags helped a ton in the past) has helped tremendously. Not from a core strength perspective but just general body awareness. So my takeaway is: maintain a general level of fitness, but focusing on weighted calisthenics might not work for everyone looking for FL. Very high specificity + ironing put weak points seems to work best for me, plus I get more out of it than a less focused approach (i.e. weighted calisthenics)
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the positive words! Very interesting! The scapula work - but definitely dragon flags may be the game changer - like you said from the body awareness standpoint. Very glad you wrote it sir, thank you!
@aurelstefan1049 3 жыл бұрын
How does this not have over one million views tho
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Haha thats very nice of you 🙏🏻🙏🏻
@NinjaWarriorFanclub 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Putting so much Work into this! It really helps so much
@LucasJohnston94 3 жыл бұрын
This video was extremely well done. I wish all youtube videos had this much effort put into them. I look forward to seeing more of your content. Hopefully, it will help me in my Kinesiology studies somewhat. Merry Christmas :)
@lSmokAce 3 жыл бұрын
Droping a like b4 watching cause i know its top notch content as always
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! 🖤
@victorvictor9662 3 жыл бұрын
6:21 - Trap tightness = great video This was Absolutely AWESOME !! You putted in a crazy amount of work. I can't believe this is free haha. It's like taking calisthenics online classes.
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Hahah exactly! Thank you man. Your attention and seeing you guys care is the prize
@RossiMethod 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, thank you so much for taking the time to do the proper research in order to develop this amazing edit. Cheers
@raphaelllks787 3 жыл бұрын
The best calisthenics video and probably will be the best calisthenics channel on youtube , dude the amount of work you ve put into this , amazing , never realised when 25 mins passed Cant wait to see more of your content , keep it up man!
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
It is so damn great to hear 🙏🏻🙏🏻 Thank you!
@mind4595 3 жыл бұрын
Really detailed video good job man!! Btw it took me more than 1 year to learn full front lever from one leg front lever and it took me only 9 months to do a full planche
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! Thank you for sharing and for nice words ;)
@akosfelber1775 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, I have been waiting for this
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Me too! So glad I could release it finally! Thank you
@akosfelber1775 3 жыл бұрын
I was shaking while watching the video 😁 Quality content 👌
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Man you cant even imagine how much your words matter to me. Thats why i make them vids, to make my viewers feel this way 🙏🏻
@wowandrss 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of work went into this and we all appreciate it! Great video, man.
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@panavisionnot7180 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent, An honorary doctorate in physical Education is well deserved.. this is a proper study/ thesis.. The amount of research and work that you have put into this video lecture is worthy of a stadium standing ovation !
@Yahavogdan 3 жыл бұрын
What an amazing video! Good info and edit! Keep it up with other topics and moves. My front lever is my strongest move,I even got its further progressions like Victorian and 1afl,but my 1 arm pull-up doesn’t as strong in comparison to my pulling strength. Until this video I thought I was the only one but seems like its a thing. I think its really depends on the arm length,the shorter your arms are the harder the front lever be but pullups/muscle-ups will be easier because the arm has less ROM to work. Would like to see something like this in the pushing category. Thanks!
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And very interesting to see because it is actually something i see more and more. Arms may play a role definitelly! I will take some time off very edited videos and get back with something again ;)
@kris955i2 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who has been stuck on front lever for almost 2 years, this was excellent. I already suspected my height was the biggest contribution to the lack of progress. Thanks for your time and effort with this video.
@mysterygamerkid192 2 жыл бұрын
How have u been progressing now?👀
@kris955i2 2 жыл бұрын
@@mysterygamerkid192 still not there……. I can Straddle for a 10 second hold
@mysterygamerkid192 2 жыл бұрын
@@kris955i2 that's still good can't do anything myself 😭
@kris955i2 2 жыл бұрын
@@mysterygamerkid192 keep at it, you’ll get there 👍
@kris955i2 2 жыл бұрын
@@matemindak384 6 ft 2 and no, still no full FL
@atrocitus9198 2 жыл бұрын
THis Video is a Diamond mine ..Love you man you literally explained front lever scientifically
@ishmaelisrael9209 3 жыл бұрын
You’ve just earned yourself a subscriber my friend 👍 awesome analysis
@yowchun95 3 жыл бұрын
this channel's gonna blow up
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so ;)
@nikolaystoyanov8411 3 жыл бұрын
The survey is really interesting and truly goes in depth on the front lever. However, I believe you forgot to consider something that I have observed to be the determining factor for front lever strength. That is lat insertions. Me and a group of friends have been trying to achieve the front lever. Most of us can already perform it, but for me it took about 11 months with a previous year of calisthenics training while 2 of my other friends achieved it in a month of starting training specifically for it. Both of them have lat insertions that go very low. Another thing I need to mention is that I have been training the front lever with much more dedication and intensity than them and that is not why they have achieved such great results (my back is like twice the size of theirs as well).
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Hey yeah someone already mentioned that! I think it really maybe the case since in pullups you support yourself with forearm flexors and upper back much more. Thank you for the insight it was really interesting to read!
@ivayloivanov3744 3 жыл бұрын
Few years ago someone on GymnasticBodies forum posted a study that showed how back muscle insertions can vary so much that some people can have almost double the strength due to better leverage with same amount of muscle mass compared to the other men. And most likely this is the reason we can see bunch of guys with similar muscle mass and one of them is able to do 5 arm pulls ups while the other can barely achieve half rep OAP after years of training.
@francoisiswatching Жыл бұрын
Talking about lats, there's a very interesting "variations" paragraph on the wikipedia page describing the lats: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latissimus_dorsi_muscle#Variations
@LeonardoTardino 3 жыл бұрын
This video is great, as it contains most of the answers that people training for this movement look for. I also took a look around your channel and found a great deal of quality content, especially the podcasts you did. Everything looks and sounds very professional, editing is on point too. Good job
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear! I put all the podcast on spotify as well and gonna be soon on apple music ;) Thank you for the positive words
@joaopviana_ 3 жыл бұрын
What a great video man! Rally high quality stuff here, you should be rewarded for the quality and effort you put in your videos.
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated ;)
@biskviti2357 2 жыл бұрын
As a 6'2 (189cm) male who trains every other day on rings for front lever, i can confirm it's pretty hard the taller you are lol
@reemmelamed8682 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, the hardest part in Front-Lever is the scapula retraction, and most people ignore it. In this aspect - Planche is "easier" than every variation of Front-Lever, cause the muscle that doing the protraction is much bigger (and stronger for most people) than the muscle that doing retraction. In addition, it's clear that there is a correlation between people who are strong in Deadlift and people who are strong in Front-Lever. Both exercises "require" people with short legs and long arms. Weighted Pull-Up, on the other hand, requires short arms (shorter range of motion) and most people do not perform it with scapula retraction or abdominal contraction, as is required in a Front-Lever. So while Pull Up strengthens the back and forearm - it doesn't help to learn the Front-Lever technique.
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Very very good points man! Thank you for sharing!
@TheDragonNixon 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I don't understand why people keep talking about retracted front lever. You basically take out the main muscles out of the movement, like running but you can't use your calves. Isn't it more motivating to just do protraction and hold it longer and feel stronger? I'm not a gymnast or anything and I didn't mean to critique you in any way, I just don't understand it.
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDragonNixon Well, I would say apart from all the safety concerns, its more philosophical debate - what is more impressive, should we strive for the perfection? What is perfection? Is it worth it? Is it the case for everyone? etc. Very good question that i find hard to answer
@TheDragonNixon 3 жыл бұрын
@@FrinksmovementTV yeah, I agree. I guess people who say "he's so weak he can't do retracted FL" are just jealous and can't think of something else to do most of the time. Thanks for the reply, what you did for this video is amazing for a young person like you. Good luck!
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much I appreciate it ;)
@tmg8801 3 жыл бұрын
Praise for the quality and indepth studying in the topic!! Hope to see more of these, really impressive!
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated! Of course its just a beggining ;)
@treasurewuji8740 3 жыл бұрын
This is great. It is so nice to see a discussion about bodyweight exercise involving the mechanical discussion. It is frustrating, seeing how too many physiological therapist with no knowledge of basic mechanics like leverage.
@raiefkaas3929 3 жыл бұрын
this was produced really well!
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
thanks!!!
@vasilen17BG 3 жыл бұрын
Firstly, great video and idea in general, congrats! What you should have also added as an option to the survey is the distance between your feet and hips(like stand straight and measure from the ground to the top of your hip bone). This will likely tell you that the people who needed more weighted pull up% added to achieve the full fl, will likely have had longer femurs, fubulas and tibias bones. And even add as an option the ankle and wrist measurements, so we get an idea of the person's genetic muscle and weight distribution. As we know, the thicker the joints, the more likely you are to naturally store muscle in that region.(the people with the biggest arms all have a thicker than avarage wrist, same goes for the legs and ankles) And for my tall dudes complaining, go check out nedko nedkov on ig and youtube. 180+ cm, above 70 kg can do a clean one arm fl pu and like 10 touch fl pull ups+full maltese over 10 sec(did 10 sec maltese in a competition!). on ig bar.giants there is a guy, 200 cm, 100 kg doing a full planche. YOU HAVE 0 EXCUSES NOW, OKAY!>?!
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Nedko is a badass haha! Oh and definitelly yeah. It could be even more specific! Very good points 👍 Thank you for your words and for contributing!
@TheAdamjohnwilliams 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible video, informative, well researched, and fantastically animated.
@dvsgkbdjhsuioxgb4082 3 жыл бұрын
keep it up, great work! The content is something we haven't got yet in our calisthenics community until now. You have no idea how interesting is this to watch and how well made is this.
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do my best!
@JakubKowalski93 3 жыл бұрын
MAGNUM OPUS! I will repeat it till the day I die: this is the best Calisthenics channel on KZfaq. It is an honour that my voice was included in this masterpiece. Now let me add something to the discussion. You forgot about one very important thing that can influence how hard the front lever is - muscle insertions. I remeber hearing Mike Israetel saying that very small difference in muscle instertions between individuals can make a major difference in force production of a given muscle. We have classic low and high lat insertions that affect aesthetics to high degree but what if it also affect front lever significantly?
@vasilen17BG 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you but like come on? yeah there would be a huge difference between a 180-190 cm, high lat insertion guy and 160 cm, ultra low insertion guy, lats almost connect to the glutes(those are the type of guys that get full fl by just doing bodyweight pull ups) but in the end, with same heights in mind, don't think it matters that much as your lats can only be attached so high- to a certain height(lets say mid back), unless you have some kinda genetic mutation where your lats attach even higher than that.
@cooperhewes 3 жыл бұрын
Good point. I had a similar thought about insertions. Different biceps insertions could cause differences in weighted pull-up strength while not having an effect on front lever strength because of the lack of elbow flexion.
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jakub. Always appreciate your words and always happy to learn from you and use your words to support my arguments. I actually did not mention internal forces - you are right. I also did not mention about 3 different ways lats attach to the scapula (or dont) But it will also affect pullups as well. Anyways, thank you so much!
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
And yeah with biceps it actually makes sense now!
@karlandreicastrillo9427 3 жыл бұрын
@@FrinksmovementTV I have a question? Does bicep insertion also affect the performance of a ring specialist gymnasts? Which is more useful having a longer tendon but short muscle belly or having a short tendon but longer muscle belly? I'm still trying find the real answer to which of this insertions are going to help in terms of bodyweight training/calisthenics/gymnastics.
@wojtekimbier 3 жыл бұрын
The only tiniest nitpick I can give you is that Maltese is D on rings (as shown at 2:10)
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh man i knew i messed up something haha! My bad!
@redditfm4578 3 жыл бұрын
F is pelican i guess
@jonathanfisher7782 3 жыл бұрын
Zenatti is an F skill and pelican is alot easier so I think it should be lower
@redditfm4578 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanfisher7782 zanetti, zenatti is a singer lol
@MrPolska223 3 жыл бұрын
@@redditfm4578 wait how the pelican is very easy
@jordanthornton 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible effort, thank you!
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@ben-levinzurbrugg8467 Жыл бұрын
Great video man! I have never seen such high quality content!
@aleksalazic7962 2 жыл бұрын
I am currently on a front lever journey, and oh boy has it been a ride. Seen some little progress, got injured, couldn't train for 2 months, stopped training FL for literally 9 months, couldn't even do a controlled one leg negative, decided to start with it again with all my heart, and now it's been 2 months in and I feel the strength being there, 2 more weeks and I think I will be able to hold it! Currently holding it for 15s with the red (smallest) band! I learned some really helpful insights, and despite literally believing I will never get it, I am approaching the front lever gang. Coming back in few weeks to update, see you gorillas 🦍
@sunny-kx1yh Жыл бұрын
update🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@aleksalazic7962 Жыл бұрын
@@sunny-kx1yh hahhahaha this is an interesting comment. I had a inguinal hernia during the whole process, and I got it a few years ago from doing dragon flags. The front lever was the only skill I shouldn't have done, and I did it anyway. I got to the point I wrote and then had to stop. I didn't even train for a whole year (2022), because it was a matter of health. Now I got a surgery and I don't have a hernia, but I will never do front lever again. Not the best story, but the true one.
@georgiosdoumas2446 3 жыл бұрын
I have a university degree in physics, and I am impressed by your graphics and explanations.
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thats honestly the biggest compliment i could get. Thank you!
@traiangheorghe8671 3 жыл бұрын
Love this channel! Keep up the good work!
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
@ianpier16 3 жыл бұрын
this is a great video, I love the amount of work and detail put into it. Most lever videos are just a super advanced guy easily busting it out but the physics and biomechanics breakdown teaches a lot. I always bend my hips in the full lever attempts but I've found that I can have an extended hip with a wide straddle and the hip bend increases incrementally as I narrow the straddle. Looks like I've gotta increase my weighted pullups now...
@cassioamorim1348 3 жыл бұрын
I literally just become able to do front lever last weekend, after 6 months of training. I'm far from being a pro when it comes to exercise, but I do have a Ph.D. in physics, so I will comment from a physics perspective. For the record, I'm short and slim (BMI 18), 1RM about 50% of bodyweight. First, I think you should rethink the role of core strength. In a front lever, your only support for your body is your shoulder, hence when testing the 9:56 position, you should lie down supported by your shoulders/thorax, a bit more up than what is shown (what might require arms pulling to do). In other words, your abs might indeed be just fine, but there are more muscles involved that even if they do not lack strength, some degree of coordination might still be needed. Now, I personally can't do a back lever (yet), though I've been told it is easier (supposedly). It might have to do with the fact that my lower back has always been much weaker for me (100+ crunches are fine, but make it reverse and I struggle with 50). The first time I got to a pull-up bar was about 7 months ago, and the tucked front lever came as a natural and even fun movement to me. Searching my life memories, I can confidently say that I always had more affinity for pulling than pushing with my arms. And because we are essentially discussing a continuous torque output, I believe the relevant muscles must have/acquire the ability to keep enough tension for that, which may require some specific conditioning that may hold only a weak correlation with other tasks, like a pull-up. FYI, I just measured my grip strength today (47 kg), and it is about 4 kgs below my peak strength 2 months ago, and my limit was an advanced tuck. I'm saying this because we sometimes hear about "squeezing" to make it easier, which I honestly never understood the meaning of.
@Charleswonder12 3 жыл бұрын
Just about all strength in a front lever adheres to the scapula; core is just a stabilizer, same with lats so no isolated raw strength is needed there.
@handlynadl 3 жыл бұрын
Im 191 and I'm really hoping to do FL one day. Stuck with the advanced tuck. Now I am 16 yo, 70 kg... That feeling when you can't go to the gym and do calisthenics couse it's the only choice lol
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Feel ya bro. Good luck on your Front Lever journey!
@korcidiamond3623 3 жыл бұрын
You are fking 16.....Stick to it and you have it way before you reach 20 yo
@CaptainCalisthenics 3 жыл бұрын
lol nice. I wasted 2 years on FL with no progress- if you want, see the vid on my channel to avoid my mistakes
@user-hn4en7lx7l 3 жыл бұрын
You deserve more, great editing info and a good calming voice.
@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed! And I actually am very surprised about the voice ;)
@GainBros 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate all the work behind this. I learned alot...gainz
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