The Problem With GTA 5's Arcade Style Driving

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The most important aspect of Grand Theft Auto is the driving. So when that element of the game is lacking, the game suffers tremendously. GTA V is the most successful GTA ever made, likely because it was built- by design - to be easily accessible to almost everyone. That meant many great features we had seen in the previous installment, GTA IV, had been either dialed back, or removed entirely. This video is meant to serve as an analysis on what makes the Arcade Nature of GTA V’s driving physics un-enjoyable.
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0:00 Intro
0:50 Realism
5:56 Comparison Guide
6:45 Intro to GTA V
9:16 Intro to GTA IV
11:10 PSA
11:46 Suspension
13:05 Inertia
13:32 Under the Wheels
14:48 Car Personality
15:54 Motorcycles
16:16 Upside Down
17:03 Overhang
17:26 Mid-air Control
18:34 Downforce
19:52 Soft Body Damage
22:09 Windshield Eject
23:29 Weapon Interaction
24:57 Tire Popping
25:34 Vehicle Types
26:54 Who’s That Vehicle?
27:05 Dirty Cars
27:32 Door Hanging
28:03 Roof Standing
28:41 Glitches
29:19 Overall Experience
32:44 GTA VI
34:12 AI Patent

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@DarkSpaceStudios 23 күн бұрын

@watchthetox7074 22 күн бұрын

this is ironic

@nuntius1 22 күн бұрын

it's ok bro. you get the money, we get content. win win for everyone. and people who can't skip forward a few times are just salty

@illegalisntlegal 22 күн бұрын

the snail follows me everywhere i go, i cant escape from the snail... must keep grinding...

@brunogt1982 22 күн бұрын

Fly through windshield can easy be fixed with an option to put a seat belt on 🤔👍🏼

@TabbyEgg312 22 күн бұрын

@@illegalisntlegal same man, the snail just keeps taking my soul and my wallet 🐌

@youssefnr1310 21 күн бұрын

Fun fact: in IV, if you try to wash a convertible car at the car wash, it won't be washed by the car wash itself, instead someone will actually come and wipe your car clean.

@VramanNoodles 18 күн бұрын

It’s those small details that I love about 4, like picking up random crap on the ground and throwing it everywhere, or when you call the police or ambulance Niko actually specifies the location he’s at, in 5 neither of those things are there.

@FriskyFlakes 18 күн бұрын

@@VramanNoodleswait, they don’t specify their location in 5? Thats weird since they do it for the taxi im pretty sure.

@numbersstationsarchive194 17 күн бұрын

@@FriskyFlakes Yeah, they don't, they just say "I need a cop car" or something like that.

@CyanRooper 17 күн бұрын

@@VramanNoodlesThrowing dildoes at people in GTA IV was one of the funniest gaming experiences I ever had.

@MrGamelover23 12 күн бұрын

@@numbersstationsarchive194That is so weird because the taxis do roughly give your location. Hell, someone could even mod the game so that they stick those lines after "I need an ambulance."

@1977TA 21 күн бұрын

You forgot to mention how bushes In GTA 5 act like solid walls when you crash into them in a car.

@huhneat8908 15 күн бұрын

ah, but not all of them, so it was a really cool surprise when the funny plant was suddenly concrete

@droman608 13 күн бұрын

**Cayo Perico Flashbacks** 😳 #thehorror

@ripadblock 19 сағат бұрын

GTA V still beats IV no dif

@acostro3845 21 күн бұрын

If we talk about the ejection system i think GTA 6 should have the option to toggle on or off seatbelts. Seatbelt on = no flying through the windshield. Seatbelt off = flying through the windshield.

@gkan1042 21 күн бұрын

If niko closed the door on the car, it was the equivalent to putting the seatbelt on, the issue of flying out happens if you rush getting in the car and driving off (or soawn in a car with mods)

@xalataf3365 21 күн бұрын

I wonder if they could do it like how they handle motorcycle helmets in 5?

@imrpovking845 20 күн бұрын

Wondering now: do any of the GTA games have seatbelts?

@nathanmead140 19 күн бұрын

@@imrpovking845if they do they're just for decoration, I've never seen any character put one on in any of the GTA games I've played (3, VC, SA, 4, 5, VCS, LCS, CTW, Online)

@phitsf5475 19 күн бұрын

@@imrpovking845 I'm certain there is

@ReiDaTecnologia 22 күн бұрын

Honestly all i want is GTA IV's parkour mechanics in GTA VI... In GTA IV, you can climb almost all buildings if you are creative enough.

@rubenlopez3364 18 күн бұрын

Climbing on the edges needs into come back

@omer5838 17 күн бұрын

because in gta4 is way more detailed work. gta5 feels like it has been rushed. gta6 will probably be woke

@MrGTAmodsgerman 16 күн бұрын

RDR2 had that come back but in a modernized form. In RDR2 the climbing is way harder to do since the player now controls way less precise due to the animation blending. But this system at least would be better then V one.

@MaggotAddict21 15 күн бұрын

@@omer5838GTA 4 is "woke".

@miaobul7194 15 күн бұрын

@@omer5838 just cuz I has a woman character doesn't mean it's gonna be woke plus u still got a male character so who gives a shit touch grass my man

@mjetektman9313 19 күн бұрын

A detail on motorbikes on GTA IV: if you wait for Niko to get the helmet and crash head onto something, his life bar won't drain entirely

@pedinhuh16 18 күн бұрын

This is also present on V, bike helmets reduces the base damage that characters take by 25%, confirmed with the source code leaks.

@FenrirtheBloodHusky 17 күн бұрын

@@pedinhuh16 how do you get them on in 5? I sit in place and nothing happens

@apotatoman4862 16 күн бұрын

@@FenrirtheBloodHusky might be in the interaction menu i know in online atleast you can change your motorcycle helmet from there

@ElJony-kun 16 күн бұрын

@@pedinhuh16 Wut? You just don't move and automatically character put the helmet

@Reed_Peer 15 күн бұрын

@@FenrirtheBloodHusky Stop the bike. After one second, the character will put on his helmet automatically. But if you're talking about GTA Online, you need to turn on auto-helmet on motorcycle in the interaction menu

@Payro 22 күн бұрын

GTA:IV had a mid-air vehicle controll. You had to press ctrl and shift to manuver in air.

@KillZoneHart1 22 күн бұрын

Or the L2/LT buttons on console

@DarkSpaceStudios 22 күн бұрын

Was it the same as 5? Or wasn't it difficult to move?

@KillZoneHart1 22 күн бұрын

@@DarkSpaceStudios same but there's still natural vehicle control midair regardless of pressing the brake button in V.

@Payro 22 күн бұрын

@@DarkSpaceStudios Worked same, but they pushed it much more in GTA:V

@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 22 күн бұрын

Actually you press alt-f4

@KnownAsGoat 7 күн бұрын

Anyone else miss gta iv rag doll physics? Like being able to flip and tumble down multiple blocks and live while in gta if you slide smoothly on the road or slide down a 10 foot hill you’re dead

@FreeAimDog 18 күн бұрын

i think its funny how in gta v you can fall 3 stories and survive but if you slide off the cliff into the ground you end up dead from rolling

@randomserbianguy5677 Күн бұрын

Yeah, fall damage in V is so inconsistent it's actually crazy

@electrified0 Күн бұрын

@@randomserbianguy5677It's inconsistent in real life too. Whether you'll survive has as much to do with how you land as how far you fall. Rolling down a mountain and hitting your neck on the side is going to kill you more than falling a greater distance and breaking your fall with your legs.

@GamingGrenade1 22 күн бұрын

I hope GTA VI brings back more realistic vehicle physics and damage. A big advantage of Rockstar having their own car brands is that they don't need to worry about a cars performance being affected by damage

@Firespecialstar 22 күн бұрын

not having real cars in these type of games tbh is nearly the only solution you would really think a brand like ferrari would allow you to overly-customize your car and do shotouts or ride over people with it? they barely allow customizations on even need for speed, a game specifically made for customizing your car lol the gta 4 damage model has to come back either way, it's just so much better in any way lol

@AverageAlien 22 күн бұрын

What??

@rlfpotatoking9253 22 күн бұрын

@@AverageAlien Licensed car brands dislike seeing their vehicles in a damaged wrecked state in video games, For example: Ford admitted they would never star in a Burnout game, which is a racing game focused entirely on crashing, high speed racing and destruction. Since Rockstar's GTA vehicles are all unlicensed and have their own brand in the universe of the world (GTA) then they can do whatever the hell they want with them, give them some insane damage modelling

@rlfpotatoking9253 22 күн бұрын

i would like to see some more dramatic damage, like GTA IV but more significant, crumples, paint scratches, bumps, dents.

@b.1570 22 күн бұрын

Straight up bs from car manufacturers. Take games like DiRT or the GRID series where damage models were an actual feature. Affecting your car performance and try to race clean and keeping your car. It's not as so controversial as exploding or ramming people on a sidewalk

@Jupa 22 күн бұрын

GTAIV is the only game that can moonlight as a BeamNG even way back in 2008, whilst also being an open world TPS… and people will still call it trash. It’s about time someone is finally talking about the sim racing qualities of GTAIV. IMO it’s one of the most impressive things about it. As someone who only sim raced before trying normal games it was an indication on how well crafted GTAIV was. Its existence is a technical miracle. Whilst GTAIV isn’t ’completely realistic’, it clearly made the design choices to make it the most realistic city driving simulator and executed it perfectly whilst maintaining the fun risk reward factor. GTAV on the other hand didn’t try on either aspect, makes you wonder what the design intent was.

@nistraan 22 күн бұрын

Ever heard of burnout paradise?(also released in 2008) has great crash physics

@GodplayGamerZulul 22 күн бұрын

It can't. Go drive a real car.

@ross3695_basedhax 22 күн бұрын

GTA IV is always just 'nostalgia' because when it was released. But nobody can give a reason why 5 is 'objectively' better other than sales and map size. Not that GTA 5 didn't do anything right, but the game is definitely a bit overrated

@fliko6808 22 күн бұрын

@@ross3695_basedhax side quests... underwater exploration... customization... quality of life improvements (checkpoints, benchmark inside the game, faster gps, gun and radio wheel), graphics and animations outside cutscenes, mission designs not being repetitive like GTA 4 (go to point A, kill someone, escape the area, mission completed)...

@deathwire7716 22 күн бұрын

@@ross3695_basedhax someone really needs to realise how much gta4 took away to give things and how much gta5 took away to give the things gta couldnt have

@honignoname98 22 күн бұрын

Beamng Mentioned

@HansTheDeutscheMenschlich. 21 күн бұрын

BEAMNG MENTIONED????? WHAT THE HELL IS OPTIMIZATION!!!!?!??!!?!! 🚘🚘🚔🚘🚔🚘🚔🚘🚔🚘🚘

@SCPFoundation29 21 күн бұрын

? @@HansTheDeutscheMenschlich.

@jannikheidemann3805 20 күн бұрын

Make sure to not miss out on it's FOSS (GPL 3) progenitor Rigs of Rods, which is still being maintained and modded to this day!

@Mateg-M246 17 күн бұрын

@@SCPFoundation29 ehhh. he is ig right? i have 16 gigs of ram personally but my beamng can barely reach 30 frames at just medium settings, not even

@Knaeckebrotsaege 14 күн бұрын

@@jannikheidemann3805 RoR is quite the PITA if you've played BeamNG tbh. Was fun to mess around with for a while tho. Also fun fact... while obviously not the same as being FOSS, BeamNG actually has no DRM to speak of, which is quite refreshing to see. One can just copy the game folder to another PC and it'll work just fine, including already downloaded mods. The only thing that won't work/load is the Steam workshop to get new/more mods (for obvious reasons). They used to have their own CDN for the game downloads before fully switching to Steam as their CDN, simply because having their own ate too much into their (comparatively quite limited) budget

@ThePimpinator 22 күн бұрын

I'm surprised no one has actually made an F1 car drive upside down yet in real life

@Dogthegod-lu9ty 21 күн бұрын

Give RedBull some time and they’ll have an F1 driver do it for real

@toyotasprintertrueno86 20 күн бұрын

Im sure RedBull will do it in about 10 minutes

@mirex-konex 19 күн бұрын

they are working on it.)

@ElSelcho77 19 күн бұрын

There is this one dude, that apparently is trying to do that. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rN2og5l5vdGveY0.html

@Chastity_Belt 18 күн бұрын

While it is theoretically possible, it is also very dangerous and hard to achieve. I'm not even sure there will be enough friction between wheels and surface in upside down position to sustain speed high enough. So probably car will need jet engine to do such stunt.

@nothinghere7391 22 күн бұрын

I think that GTA VI needs to do what MAFIA games have been doing for years. Having Having two options for the players to choose themselves, between "normal" and "simulation".

@Average_Internet_User101 22 күн бұрын

R*, hire this guy... (Add a Toggle option)

@Kaiess_01 22 күн бұрын

This would give an unfair advantage in online though.

@DirtyDev 22 күн бұрын

@@Kaiess_01not really since you can just choose to change to whichever would be more advantageous

@Average_Internet_User101 22 күн бұрын

@@Kaiess_01 Unfortunately not true, If everyone has the option, everyone can have the advantage, therefor the only people that would have set disadvantage would be people who (Voluntarily) toggled it to (Simulation)

@Kaiess_01 22 күн бұрын

@@Average_Internet_User101 @DirtyDev then what’s the point in having the realistic option because everyone will end up using the arcade driving if it gives them the advantage.

@theninethrees8044 22 күн бұрын

GTA 4 online racing is far more grounded and took actual skill to compete. It had speed boosts if you curb and go over bumps. Braking points were extremely crucial. You had to focus a lot more on keeping your car under control while securing your position meanwhile GTA 5 online racing just had you focus on not crashing.

@GameSpirit1 22 күн бұрын

I remember the pressure i had in GTA IV, of being 1st and trying to not hit the sidewalk, just one hit and the race was lost ! But it was so rewarding

@theninethrees8044 21 күн бұрын

@@GameSpirit1 Lol yup, those racing lobbies were rough man. Not for the your typical NFS player, you HAD to know the condition of every street in the city to have the most control over your car. One pot hole and your Comet starts flying in the air doing 360 no scopes then next thing you know you’re in last place.

@AlineaEuros 16 күн бұрын

In gta 5 you also use curbs to speed boost

@someuser4166 18 күн бұрын

All you had to do was wear your damn seatbelt Nico!

@B.D.B. 16 күн бұрын

GTA4's driving physics were almost sim-like. 70's and 80's American cars handle like boats, that's not a bug, it's faithful representation.

@Kagawwy 5 күн бұрын

Except that there are very few 70-80s cars in the game

@PURENT Күн бұрын

Meanwhile the Corvette equivalent in GTA 4 rolling like a pig.

@greatnessofthelack1198 18 күн бұрын

Driving a vehicle off of a building in GTA4 was always entertaining. I could do that for hours.

@mansellracing8690 12 күн бұрын

HEY! DudeGTA5 On the XBOX ONE Physical disk version Is Amazing mate, The Damage System in that version is almost the same if not Identical to GTA4's Damage System, Even the driving feels the same because of it, Me and my mate was playing it last night just crashing the cars and just driving mad, jumping off Stuff, We had Cars Crumpling up, Doors hanging off, Windows Smashing in, Its the Best version by far. We even had a car set on fire, I told him to get out cause it will explode, And just like in real life It just Caught fire And burned out. Great version mate, you should try it.

@__chevytrucks__ 15 күн бұрын

The main reason there’s a lack of planes in GTA 4, is because the map could be too quickly traversed if they had planes or jets. Helicopters could get you from the northeast side to the southwest side in less than 2 minutes at altitude. Imagine using a plane instead…

@MEGALODONGERS 10 күн бұрын

I actually have to wonder if it was even moreso due to issues Rockstar Games had internally with plane physics and/or collision. The common explanation for GTA IV not having manned planes is that there's only one airport along with the map being too small. However, Rockstar Games had this same issue prior to GTA IV with GTA VC (which has an even smaller map). Their solution to the issue was a boat plane (Skimmer). The Skimmer could have worked quite well in GTA IV considering the amount of water, piers/docks, and the ability to swim. Also, the Cessna 152 (real life counterpart of the Dodo/Skimmer) has a top speed of 126 mph while the UH-60 Black Hawk (real life counterpart of the Annihilator) has a top speed of 183 mph. So, the suggested boat plane wouldn't be too fast. Although, the speed gap between the two would ideally be closed up a bit in-game to allow for better utility of the plane that's unable to make vertical takeoffs and landings (unlike a helicopter).

@JJFX- 3 күн бұрын

There are plenty of clever ways to do it and still be challenging enough though. I suspect the theory of the physics being the primary reason this was scrapped is most likely.

@ripadblock 19 сағат бұрын

That is why I prefer GTA V

@ocksie 22 күн бұрын

i've been a fan of IV's driving style ever since it came out and i do believe it's better than V in most if not all ways, but i do remember it feeling like a breath of fresh air to finally be able to turn my brain off while driving in a GTA game. obviously over time though, that means the driving became much more boring compared to IV which always has the player engaged. V's driving did its job well for a bit but it simply doesn't work long term. VI definitely needs some sort of middle ground or maybe even an option to change your handling so people can fine tune their experiences.

@kingthehacker9061 22 күн бұрын

17:30 Yes, you can, but it's so heavy to control

@Payro 22 күн бұрын

Yup, with a shift and a ctrl button.

@SirFunky 5 күн бұрын

Hearted the comment even though he explicitly says this would be unrealistic

@nothinghere7391 22 күн бұрын

I absolutely love GTA IV's driving, but sometimes the cars look like they have sway bars made of octopus jelly. GTA V's model looks and feels like I'm driving a soap box. I think that GTA VI needs to do what MAFIA games have been doing for years. Having Having two options for the players to choose themselves, between "normal" and "simulation".

@alainportant6412 22 күн бұрын

Rockstar doesn't really do that kind of shit. Everybody is supposed to have the same experience especially trans kids who are #1 users of Gta V

@willdoyoutube 22 күн бұрын

This would not work for GTA 6 online, because it doesn't make sense having different physics for each player in the same session. Maybe they could add this option for campain mode only and find a mid point for online, but I think the odds of that happing are low.

@iwtdl_ 22 күн бұрын

@@willdoyoutube Already GTAO has different session types depending on targeting mode so it could likely work.

@Channel9iNE 22 күн бұрын

@@alainportant6412 The fuck are you on?

@thefallenvalley4340 22 күн бұрын

I can tell you're very new to the franchise by this opinion. Rockstar designs the whole game around a certain type of physics.

@Spidoc 14 күн бұрын

idk what some ppl are talking about, the suspension in gta 4 IS a lil overkill

@dudemp4 13 күн бұрын

yeah it really is

@RSGCProductions 4 күн бұрын

Nah

@mobythemerpup1515 18 күн бұрын

The Cars fall apart faster then Cruella’s 4T Car from the third act in the movie

@_Devil 22 күн бұрын

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@BobGeanis 22 күн бұрын

Haven't seen him take a mybookie or stake ad so I don't think so

@flameguy3416 22 күн бұрын

IKR way too much sponsoring of scummy GTA RP money hungry servers owned by Pakistani tax evaders

@30THMAN. 22 күн бұрын

I remember back when he started sponsorships, he said he well only do sponsors that "worth it", and he doesn't want us to see another Raid Shadow Legends sponsor, but looks like he made another terrible sponsor..

@khebre6032 22 күн бұрын

So radi shadow legends doesn't exist?

@Gassp_ 22 күн бұрын

War thunder isn’t bad, it just sponsors anything that walks

@DanielKay06 21 күн бұрын

Something I always wanted was a "seatbelt" option for getting flung out of cars, putting on the seatbelt could be similar to how you put on a helmet on a motorcycle, you just wait parked a few seconds and it's on, though could also be an interaction when in a car. When on you can't get flung out and you take a bit less crash damage but you can't "jump out" a moving car as a tradeoff. That said they should really also change how bailing from a car or bike works, instead of just rolling uncontrollably you should have a way to stop or catch yourself somehow, maybe in exchange for taking more damage. That way bailing could actually be useful again as right now it pretty much just carries you the same distance your vehicles travels after bailing anyway :P

@Tuulos 19 күн бұрын

IIRC at least GTA IV has seat belts, you need to wait for the character to close the door and / or start the car by themselves before hitting the gas.

@duck74UK 20 күн бұрын

I really hope GTA 6's driving is more like GTA 4's. I dont want to fall asleep whenever the "auto" in Grand Theft Auto is present. It shouldn't be something that's toned down to be as easy as possible to get you from A to B, cars should be a big part of the gameplay too. Rockstar hopefully learned their lesson, look at how many cheap things they had to add to try and get enjoyment out of 5's handling model. Every intersection having a red light runner who would always happen to slow down or speed up depending on how or if you swerved. Every road with multiple lanes always happens to have the car that wants to change lane the second you come to pass them. The police pit manoeuvres not being physics driven but instead the contact overrides your steering controls, ect.

@ashton9699 16 күн бұрын

It won't, because they also learned the bigger lesson that children are a majority of the players who line their pockets, and kids don't want "harder" driving.

@alexgreg152 11 күн бұрын

Learned their lesson, what are you talking about ? Gta5 crushed gta4 as they sold way more gta5 games. I will also add that gta never claimed to be a car simulator.

@ralphenstein9105 7 күн бұрын

@@alexgreg152 Did GTAV crush GTAIV just because of its arcade physics? Maybe it was despite that (and might have more to do with the fact that Rockstar have been milking it for all its worth for over a decade). No, you're right - gta never claimed to be a car simulator, but driving is a huge part of the game.

@alexgreg152 7 күн бұрын

@@ralphenstein9105 They could do the same with gta4 but they didn't, because they knew the game wouldn't hold. Gta5 still holding up pretty good even after a decade. Like i said gta is not a driving simulator so idc much about it being realistic as hell. Like forza horizon, if ppl like this game so much it's because of it's mix between arcade and simulation. I played gta4 and gta5 and spent way more time driving in gta5 than in gta4. And i do like driving simulators. But gta is not supposed to be one and the mix they did for the 5 is perfect to be combined with every aspect of the game.

@KillZoneHart1 22 күн бұрын

GTA6 really need to adopt some of GTA4s driving mechanics. It's so much more satisfying picking your braking point correctly and more risk because of weight transfer. GTA5 unfortunately you can go flat out almost all the time with no risk of crashing resulting in boring chases.

@Python-xs2iv 22 күн бұрын

@KillZoneHart1 22 күн бұрын

@@Python-xs2iv you're an L

@Python-xs2iv 22 күн бұрын

@@KillZoneHart1 Sick burn bro. Did it work as well in Kindergarten?

@thegamingvillager2392 21 күн бұрын

@@Python-xs2iv Do you grief lobbies with your opressor mk2?

@Python-xs2iv 21 күн бұрын

@@thegamingvillager2392 I don't even play GTA online like that bro 😭

@BDozer666 22 күн бұрын

16:42 You could always take another car and ram your old one to unflip it. 17:26 You can control your car mid air in GTA IV as well. Holding handbrake (or was it gas+brake, not sure which) also changes the type of air control (so you can actually turn the car left or right instead of rolling it). 28:41 GTA IV also has curb and wiggle boosting, as well as all the speed boosts that come from all the tiny bumps in the road. 32:44 They need to find a mid point between San Andreas and IV, not V. It was a big missed opportunity to not talk about San Andreas and what it did right. V's driving setup is pretty much downgraded San Andreas driving, as San Andreas had a much better balance of arcade and realism than V. Body roll actually existed and was properly applied to correct vehicle types. Cars of the same type had more handling variety between them. It didn't have the forced traction control system of the newer games or the weird physics glitches. It did some things better than IV.

@iwtdl_ 22 күн бұрын

Combining the driving physics of GTA IV and V can actually work for GTA VI. The Bravado Dorado and the Canis Terminus are the best examples of this.

@_wris 22 күн бұрын

@@iwtdl_ I haven't driven either of them but are they really the best examples? Because so far I thought the Eudora was the best and (possibly) the only example of a combination of both physics. And from videos that I've seen about the cars you've mentioned, they seem to have the same stiff physics but I might be wrong.

@wilbo_baggins 22 күн бұрын

Glad someone pointed the air control out. It's been a thing since even in sa (can't remember if it was prior)

@DarkSpaceStudios 21 күн бұрын

Great comment, thank you

@santi3256 8 күн бұрын

I think u are actually true. Like San andreas and V are almost the same type of driving, it's just that is not soo noticeable because of the clear difference on graphics.

@thabreez456 20 күн бұрын

This is the problem with not releasing a new game for nearly a decade. People start to criticize everything about the game that’s current.

@randomserbianguy5677 19 күн бұрын

Honestly, yeah. It's probably gonna happen to GTA 6bas well. Like in 10 years when GTA 7 is in it's 50% completion rating, people would look back and make GTA V is better than GTA VI (kinda like what we're doing now with IV and V)

@Bourikii2992 18 күн бұрын

This happened literally release day of gtav. It was one of the first complaints I made against V on release.

@Rat-O-Tim 19 күн бұрын

for some reason a loved gta iv's motorcycle driving physics, install a first person mod and drive a zombie chopper, it feels unbelievably good in gta iv

@LxrdBreezy00 18 күн бұрын

Being good at driving in 4 was so satisfying. V is great for racing and getting away

@mansellracing8690 12 күн бұрын

HEY! Dude, Try GTA5 on the XBOX ONE, It's Amazing, The Damage System is almost the same as GTA4's. Infact Mabey even the same, Me and my mate were playing it last night, And we had a right laugh with it, just crashing the cars, And Jumping off stuff, We had crumpled up Body Panels, Doors hanging off, We even had Buckled up wheels, And the car wouldn't steer Proper. And the engine caught Fire to, We thought it was gonna explode, But it Just caught fire and started smoking, But the cops were on us and the ruddy thing wouldn't start, I told him to Pinch another car but He was to slow, And got shot BOO HOO. Anyway I think the Physics are Much the same as 4 because of the Damage system. It's a Great version Mate.

@domasavpedzivin 22 күн бұрын

*Really enjoyable and informative vid , there's one thing that You had overlooked , specifically the fact that older cars in IV doesn't feature ABS , while the newer cars are equipped with it , personally I think that the driving model in IV was sucha step forward 'cos 'twas innovative, more demanding 'twas like a really unexpected but great move by the developers*

@kingtiger3390 19 күн бұрын

To be entirely honest modern trucks can handle better, accelerate quicker and come to a stop much faster than what most people would expect, especially european cabovers.

@Simtatic 22 күн бұрын

I very rarely comment on videos, but Dark Space deserves the engagement! By far one of the best (maybe even the best) GTA channel out there. The effort which goes into these videos is crazy (editing, research, scriptwriting...). Thanks for creating such amazing content! To the video topic itself (i haven't watched the vid yet): i think a mix of GTA 4 and GTA 5 driving for GTA 6 would be the sweatspot. GTA 4s physics were too soft and GTA Vs too stiff. Also the whole flipping your car back up or steering in the air is kinda goofy. It had also other issues like when vehicles land on the roof or front end after a jump, they tend to explode which makes no sense. Hypercars and Sports cars should also be faster than in the previous games and also require more skill (for example, they could be easier to spin out, at least RWD cars). As someone who both likes simracing and arcade racing games, i know what both worlds can offer and i really hope Rockstar makes the driving in GTA 6 awesome since its such a vital part of these games. Not only for missions, but for races, travel and much more.

@DarkSpaceStudios 22 күн бұрын

It's funny, you kinda say exactly what I say in the video 😂

@Simtatic 22 күн бұрын

@@DarkSpaceStudios Yeah, i've noticed that. I think most people who played both GTA 4 and 5 share that opinion, therefore it's not a huge coincidence. ^^

@Rabbit-o-witz 22 күн бұрын

I like both driving. They both accomplish what they are meant to do according to each game

@skeletonbuyingpealts7134 22 күн бұрын

Oh look at you with your logic

@AverageAlien 22 күн бұрын

Yeah in general kids just jump on the GTA 4 bandwagon these days, even though at the time, GTA 4 was always considered to be an inferior game to all other GTA titles.

@TheBloopers30 22 күн бұрын

@@AverageAlien Bandwagon this and bandwagon that. Couldn't the exact same thing be said for how some people didn't like IV back then as well? No because such argument is impossible/very hard to actually confirm and is usually used as an anti-argument to avoid having to argue facts and/or other peoples opinions.

@ross3695_basedhax 22 күн бұрын

@@TheBloopers30 Can confirm I liked 4 as much as SA when it came out. And I don't see many kids playing GTA 4 ever wtf is that guy even on about

@DedAlexFive 22 күн бұрын

Well, if GTAV driving's objective was to feel like trash, they succeded.

@UltimateSpiderMan 22 күн бұрын

You can control the vehicles in ALL gta games actually while not holding the accelerate button.

@UltimateSpiderMan 22 күн бұрын

Like in mid air

@blendhon 19 күн бұрын

And unflipping by holding down the reverse button + left or right

@UltimateSpiderMan 18 күн бұрын

@@blendhon that too, but you can't do it without enough momentum in the older games, and if its completely stationary you won't be able to unflip it.

@blendhon 18 күн бұрын

@@UltimateSpiderMan Yep!! But most people don't know that (apparently)

@user-zm6sc6sy3w 18 күн бұрын

Never was a fan of steering in midair I think it should be nerfed it is just too goofy only thing it made sense for it was on dirt bikes like a professional stuntman pulling tricks in the air

@VioletGiraffe 20 күн бұрын

There are SUVs in GTA Online that can tip when turning at high speed, but they are very few.

@DarkSpaceStudios 20 күн бұрын

I wish I hadn't missed that. Such a big mistake. Second big one too, because vehicles can actually be controlled in the air in gta 4

@dividedstatesofamerica2520 10 сағат бұрын

Cite an example.

@anshulsingh8326 20 күн бұрын

Something in between GTA 4 and 5. I won't mind if they give 3 Options. Like GTA 4, mid, like gta 5. They can still have stunt racing where admin can choose what physics everyone should have

@crashblaine42 6 күн бұрын

As a Need For Speed player and a Forza player, I’m relatively good at controlling both, it just depends on what I want on a specific day

@Liger_Soba 5 күн бұрын

This. Sometimes I’d like to play AC to drive on the edge of what’s possible in sim racing, and sometimes I’d to play need for speed unbound to unrealistically wreak cops and make turns that shouldn’t ever be possible. For me too it’s all a matter of what I’m feeling for the day.

@XpertGreekGamer 18 күн бұрын

4's simply better because of the impact, depth and how the player deals with it. Simple as that. Only middle point that needs to be found here is how do you make IV's driving less extreme. IV itself isn't near as extreme as other simulations but they could tone it down a bit for VI i guess. More lessons need to be taken from IV than V is what I'm saying, i just don't want to be bored while driving ok? IV ruined every other GTA driving for me because of how much more involved i was in it. I think mid air control is good btw, same with car flipping

@mansellracing8690 12 күн бұрын

HEY! man, Play the XBOX ONE version It's Amazing mate, It's almost the same as GTA4's Damage system, Me and my mate was playing it last night and we had a right laugh, my Mate really sucks at the Driving, But that didn't matter, We were Just Crashing the cars jumping off stuff, And we had Crumpled up Body panels, Buckled up wheels, We even had a door hanging off at one point, It's a Great version my friend. It's the closest Iv'e seen to GTA4's Car damage and even the Physics Are Nearly the same to. It's a Great version pall.

@XpertGreekGamer 12 күн бұрын

@@mansellracing8690 Doubt but even if true i don't have an XBOX and i never will

@mansellracing8690 12 күн бұрын

@@XpertGreekGamer Why would i lie about it mate, I am telling you the truth, But I know not everyone likes the XBOX ONE, So i respect that, That's fine pall, But i am Telling you the truth on the Damage system, I haven't really played it until last night, cause i always played the PS4 version, until the PS5 version came out, Then i played that, But i didn't want to Lug my PS5 all the way down my mates house, So i took the XBOX ONE version with me, And i was Amazed at how good it is. But i can't tell you what to Believe Can i, It doesn't really matter anyway does it, It's only a game after all. I just thought you might be interested to know mate that's all.

@XpertGreekGamer 12 күн бұрын

@@mansellracing8690 I didn't so anyway

@REPOMAN24722 22 күн бұрын

GTA IV was better

@HichamBoudouma 22 күн бұрын

Your opinion

@markedmanmist 21 күн бұрын

Agreed, GTA V is too arcade-y. Not to mention San Andreas feels more Empty than LC.

@HichamBoudouma 21 күн бұрын

@@markedmanmist but gta iv removed manys features that gta san andreas had so i disagree

@markedmanmist 21 күн бұрын

@@HichamBoudouma ..I'm talking about V's San Andreas?

@HichamBoudouma 21 күн бұрын

@@markedmanmist at least gta v get features back that gta san andreas had unlike gta iv not all but both are better than gta iv

@Rude_Boi 22 күн бұрын

It sucks because if you go back to the PS3/360 versions of GTA V, the cars could get damaged to pancake levels. They only took that out with future releases because of first person mode, and the fact that they didn't create an interior damage model, so they disabled the exterior damage model.

@HeyTarnished 22 күн бұрын

Yes! This is what’s making me afraid of GTA VI’s car handling & deformation systems, Rockstar also have to listen to the online multiplayer portion of the fanbase that is literally keeping GTA V alive all this time, they’re having the most fun with the driving & aren’t complaining, right? They represent the majority of the GTA audience, that’s why I’m afraid GTA VI will opt for a GTAV-like physics & driving style in order to appease & not make those online guys mad, they’re hedging most of their success on them. I hope Rockstar do not listen to them & make the best driving handling/physics they could make.

@thegamingvillager2392 21 күн бұрын

@@HeyTarnished Then make your own game. GTA is Rockstar's game and if they want to add V style handling/physics to their next game its their choice not yours. If you disagree, i guess just learn game dev and make your own game (cant say it wont be AAA levels because thats hard to do)

@thegamingvillager2392 21 күн бұрын

Also im sure R* will bring back realistic handling this time so its stupid to think they will add V handling back

@OutlawedPoet 17 күн бұрын

Are there any videos showcasing this? Haven't played last-gen GTA V since 2013.

@mansellracing8690 12 күн бұрын

Nope not altogether true My friend, Try The XBOX ONE Version, It's Amazing, It has the same Damage System as GTA4, And it also has the in car Camera view, And the Physics are almost the same as GTA4's. Me and my mate were playing it last night, And we had a right ol Laugh, We were Just crashing the cars And Jumping off stuff, And we had Crumpled up Body panels, Wheels Buckled up, Doors hanging off, My mate was running from the cops, And the engine caught fire, And just gave up, And it wouldn't Drive, It was Great fun mate. Play this version, The Physical disk version, It's the best GTA5 by far my friend.

@defnotevil5189 6 күн бұрын

I usually agree with Dark space on stuff like this, but the more "arcade" style driving is just so much more fun in a game. The destruction mechanics could be cool to see, but honestly I like the new direction that rockstar went in on this topic

@bjamiork 16 күн бұрын

Too much realism is exactly why I dropped RDR 2. That shit was so slow and frustrating to control.

@Average_Internet_User101 22 күн бұрын

If GTA 6 releases with "realistic physics" anyone you're doing a mission (To make $ and RP) with either: - Get's stuck by flipping their car - Is super slow because they dented their car too much on one side negatively impacting their driving - Get's flipped when going over a ramp and flipping mid air - Get's permanently stuck on a rock or incline because they were exploring the map I give you full permission to leave them stuck, or even better leave the mission and let them take 3 Times as long to finish it!💀

@Nitrox_909 22 күн бұрын

imagine having to constantly counter steer only bcause you hit a curb on a crossing😂

@Average_Internet_User101 22 күн бұрын

@@Nitrox_909 Specially whilst you have 2 Enemy vehicles with 4 enemies each, total of 6 shooting you at all times, with 1 to 2 Helicopters with 2 gunners each chasing, with anything from a ⭐⭐⭐ to a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ wanted level

@rlfpotatoking9253 22 күн бұрын

so they should put a slider for arcade handling and simulation handling, let the player decide and this could be an option in a GTA Online session if all cars should be arcade handling or simulation (realistic)

@Average_Internet_User101 22 күн бұрын

@@rlfpotatoking9253 That or a toggle option, either would be fine!👍

@JetL 22 күн бұрын

@@rlfpotatoking9253 They should have everyone using the same handling though. For the sake of consistency and competition. I think something in between the two games would be perfect.

@TrialzGTAS 22 күн бұрын

A midpoint would be great. I loved IV. I loved that I had to practice to get good at it. Not just pick up and go. Almost feels as if Rockstar forgets they are a mature rated company and still just cater to children. And love the blade dash you had, brought back some great memories :)

@OutlawedPoet 17 күн бұрын

I don't really get what's so challenging about IV's driving?

@dividedstatesofamerica2520 9 сағат бұрын

I don't really get what's so challenging about real life driving either, but most people can't seem to do it properly.

@Pundit2k 17 күн бұрын

The biggest problem for me is that I like GTA IV's physics in theory, but quickly get bored and exit the game after I've crashed for the fifth time in a row and got ejected halfway across the street or lost 90% of my health after just leaving a hospital. With GTA V I can play for much longer (probably upwards of twice as long, per session) even in singleplayer.

@zematic_4881 19 күн бұрын

I do think it was annoying when you crashed 3 times in IV your car would be destroyed

@MrSquaky 22 күн бұрын

You still have some of the best video editing I've seen in all of KZfaq

@orlovntl1041 22 күн бұрын

One thing I really didn't like with GTA 5 was that cars would explode if you landed it on the roof. This was particularly annoying on mout chilliad.

@cyrilbollen3036 5 күн бұрын

When 5 got released I thought it would be as challenging and realistic driving in the desert and finally to drive like a realistic rallycar in the mountains... Well.. that was disappointing

@cronus-kumo 15 күн бұрын

To be honest i feel so pulled apart by both GTA 4 and GTA 5 driving that i start to not care anymore what GTA 6 will bring. Don‘t get me wrong the GTA 4 driving is awesome and it actually feels nice to drive around through Liberty City but i also love the GTA 5 driving just because (as it already got said) it sticks to their arcade style driving. The addition of being able to flip your car around when landing on the roof was like the helping hand to a cry for help. I remember how frustrating it always was having a sick car in GTA SA and then flipping it. Of course it not rewarding then to be a good driver but it‘s still GTA and not a racing game and i feel like if you want it to be rewarding you still can make it that way. I agree that you can driver over pretty much everything in GTA 5 but it still is a bit more easy to spin out at high speeds due to all the bumps in the road. It just feels more "usual" or "familiar" to have an arcade like driving experience in GTA even thought i really liked driving in GTA 4 too. …… We don‘t talk about the visible damage problem cuz that really does suck in GTA 5.

@leonkenedy4616 22 күн бұрын

It could be tone down a bit but GTA IV driving system is the best imo.

@lostonearth7856 3 күн бұрын

Honestly, there should be a seat belt feature in GTA.

@retrotrollpyrus8171 14 күн бұрын

GTA V was massive upgrade from IV. You people never talk about the flaws of GTA IV just the peaks and I struggle to run it on my pc while V runs smoothly

@RawbLV 14 күн бұрын

Then again, you're also hyper focusing. GTA IV was a bad port for the PC, so you're calling the entire game bad just because of that. Today you can use DXVK2 and it will run smoothly, I promise.

@Liger_Soba 5 күн бұрын

He was talking about the driving only, so any flaws outside of vehicles would be redundant to mention for the video. :/

@tylercouture216 22 күн бұрын

I wanted to mention something about the traffic getting in front of you while you're driving. I know it seems annoying, but to be honest with you that has been a part of rock star's driving philosophy since I can remember as far back as midnight club two. When you would drive on the wrong side of the highway. Cars would basically swerve to get out of your way, but as a result would sometimes swerve right into you. They even do it in red dead redemption two with the horses. Sometimes somebody is riding, and they'll just turn their horse in front of you.

@Juanguar 22 күн бұрын

I’ve heard somewhere that they do this to slow down the player and prevent them from outpacing the loading of the map chunks

@tylercouture216 22 күн бұрын

@Juanguar could be true for older games, but in all honesty, the only game that didn't do it purposely was gta4.

@michaelmcd64 22 күн бұрын

I hope GTA 6 goes for an inbetween of 5 and 4s physics. Its good that you can unflip your car and have air control as a nice convenience feature. Especially with personal vehicles being heavily emphasized now. But hopefully the damage is more pronounced and the driving physics offering a little more challenge and variety.

@HansTheDeutscheMenschlich. 21 күн бұрын

High expectations leads to huge disappointment.

@mauroghen9157 14 күн бұрын

My main frustration is the heavy pilot assist with helicopters making machine guns completely worthless. Then theres the lack of actual drifting. If you lose control, pressing on the gas does nothing and you can only steer and hope you dont spin out. In gta online you get a drift tune on a few cars but then it feels like you’re constantly driving on ice and never have grip

@Knaeckebrotsaege 14 күн бұрын

Imagine being me back in 2015 finally holding the retail PC copy of GTA5 in my hands, installing it and playing it for the first time, full of excitement after coming from IV.... and what a massive letdown it ended up being :( I ended up spending something like 5+ hours playing and messing around between missions, and it was just a constant stream of "this is worse than IV, wait they removed this feature?!, apparently you can't hang off of things anymore.. bummer, can't throw things either?, why can't i leave my car running when tapping F anymore? it always turns off as if i held it, why are cops so aggressive?!, why does every car handle like it's glued to the ground?, why is the car damage so pathetic?!, why can't i push other vehicles anymore?! ...... it went on and on and on. 5 was a big slap in the face for people like me who enjoyed IV to the point of nowadays calling it their favorite GTA ever.

@MrNotorius007 21 күн бұрын

Can’t believe I agree with almost everything you said. Are you me lol. I’ve been saying this for years. Especially the next gen damage. They marketed it as improved damage while actually decreasing the amount allowed to the cockpit area making the cars only like 20% deformable in the front and back. I was so disappointed when the next gen version came out. What’s annoying is they could’ve come up with so many alternatives like character ducking when roof is damaged, or swapping first person damage as a separate damage model like racedriver Grid where once you go third person the actual damage is shown, or tweaking deformation to a certain level, yet they went with the laziest option of completely removing damage. Hopefully 6 has better solutions to damage and actually adds life to physics in the way cars behave. I could drive around for hours in IV whereas V felt like a lifeless chore.

@ondrejkopecky8552 22 күн бұрын

For me its Gta IV because its more releastic than Gta V i want Gta VI to be fun and releastic as well+ RTX real time reflections, more ncps, more life in the game.

@thatoneintrovert9618 12 күн бұрын

They should allow you to switch between driving physics, like how Mafia 2 did. We should be allowed to choose between GTA V style driving and IV, or when Rockstar makes new physics for 6, we also have the option for that. That way, all players are happy. They get to have their preference. I feel like this would work online as well, imagine seeing other players driving boat-like IV style driving while other players nearby are driving with complete control and accuracy like V. That would be the best.

@cronus-kumo 15 күн бұрын

I always explain it as: I love the driving in GTA 4 but love the racing in GTA 5

@Chris-xc4rv 22 күн бұрын

GTA 4 drive physics was too annoying. The handling was annoying, the time it took to get to destinations without getting hurt or killed was tedious. I just started using a cab every time to avoid it, unless I just had to drive.

@GD_Mambra 22 күн бұрын

22:02 that is not true, in the GTAVI Trailer at the end when Jason and Lucia are kicking the doors open, on the left we can see a car with a pretty realistic dent in it. (and in the leaks we saw a bit more damage)

@CarmineKar98K 22 күн бұрын

People complained about GTAIV's driving but I liked how real it felt or tanky, and getting skilled with the driving was satisfying to nail down. And while I didn't mind the arcade like driving in GTAV I just kinda vibe more with 4's because it feels like a challenge to overcome and feels good to be grounded in some kind of reality.

@DeadlyLazer 18 күн бұрын

Honestly the last time i saw anyone saying gta 5 driving physics was better than 4 was about 10 years ago, when gta 5 was relatively new. Since then, especially recently, I've heard nothing but praises for gta 4 physics

@IndoGunsnGear 18 күн бұрын

and i remembered that the last time people clowned on the physics of gta 4 was when the game first released

@flv-9984 18 күн бұрын

Oh yeah the gta 4 driving is so realistic,2 hours to make a turn with almost any car 🤗

@Liger_Soba 5 күн бұрын

🤨

@TengokuEXE 22 күн бұрын

GTA IV also has a weird suspension glitch some may or may not know. If you shoot at the area behind a wheel, it will cause the car to lower, eventually "breaking" the suspension. If you do this with all four wheels, the car goes faster. Combined with blowing out the tires, you can reach high speeds. While it's unrelated, a fun lesser known glitch is the shipping container glitch. If you do it in multiplayer while hanging onto it, it moves so fast that it can launch you above the sky cap or across the city so fast that it looks like you teleported.

@glurak888 21 күн бұрын

GTAV has that aswell, the futo turns into a drift machine with that. It was meta back in 2013.

@elitef40 2 күн бұрын

I love the 360 dasboard and guide effects. It's pretty darn cool!

@lmAIone 11 сағат бұрын

Gta 4 still wins all day long. I miss that game so much man, so many great memories 🤙🏼

@UserJBweld 22 күн бұрын

If I'm honest it's like a 50% GTA 4 to 50% GTA 5 to me. The body physics in 4 were just slightly too much along with the bad bike physics. But the dumb boost bugs and lack of weight to vehicles in 5 is underwhelming. That's really all, love them both to death and I hope they mix the physics because I think that would be the sweet spot or the Gta-spot I guess you could say.

@LincolnAKAVenox 22 күн бұрын

Ngl I still hate the driving in gta 4. I never felt like I had control, like driving a car in real life is easier. If gta 4 took place in the winter and had icy roads it would've made sense but it doesn't make sense that vehicles move like this, the motorcycles straight up suck in the game. I do agree the physics are better in 4 than 5 though that's pretty much a fact.

@randomserbianguy5677 19 күн бұрын

Bro, the motorcycles were probably the worst aspect of the game. I'm genuinely surprised they didn't fix up the bike physics for Lost and the Damned, even the NPC would be swirling around and crashing into things

@Bourikii2992 18 күн бұрын

That's because you're driving 60mph or faster without realizing it.

@LincolnAKAVenox 18 күн бұрын

@@Bourikii2992 my main problem is that it's very hard to turn in this game, so yeah driving at high speeds is very hard to do

@heavenlanes5598 20 күн бұрын

This video is what I still need in my life. I have a modified handling file in my copy of GTA IV that is a balance between it and V even when the game's handling system is feeling janky at times. I'd drive a Patriot mindlessly around LC and see it entering corners with almost little body roll and at full speed, or the Manana that still feels sluggish and creates a bit of wheel spin at every turn. Both titles don't get the driving right regardless of whichever feels the most thrilling.

@SergeantSniper 17 күн бұрын

Personally, I really prefer the particular challenge of mastering a realistic handling model. Tire, spring, and car body physics, realistic grip, all that good stuff. Everything else is either secondary or I'd rather not deal with it.

@bearabletable7527 22 күн бұрын

sorry but GTA IV driving is driving me nuts. lol I perfer arcade. MAFIA 's choice is the best tho as people can choose which one as he/she likes.

@cronus-kumo 15 күн бұрын

The problem is that i like both the GTA 4 "realistic" and the old GTA "arcade" driving and i wish you could just switch in between the both of them but … that‘s most likely impossible or nearly impossible.

@whiterthanU53 6 күн бұрын

I always hated the driving in GTA 5. The driving in Vice City from 2002 was better. I always hated how I would have these nice old and heavy cars online and they drove like they were hot wheels toys. It’s always been my least favorite part of the game.

@CaptainGlack 22 күн бұрын

Great video, great points. I watched until the end. An easy sub!

@ross3695_basedhax 22 күн бұрын

love your channel also 👍

@AGnar0k 22 күн бұрын

The true answer is to have San Andreas driving physics.

@jordan-mn6yy 16 күн бұрын

The 360 dashboard menu is perfection.

@ommer15 22 күн бұрын

so many great points in this video, i really hope they take the best out of both games and implement it into gta 6. youve also mentioned so many good features in gta 4, some of which i didnt even know about

@PaoMej 22 күн бұрын

I always liked GTA 4's handling from the beginning. Cars felt more grounded. It gave driving a challenge and less of a bore. Like a proper driver - you're always gotta be attentive to the vehicle. It made even boring and common vehicles fun to drive cause of it. I liked trying the different feel for each vehicles in that game. But in GTA 5, it was just meh. Vehicles such as vans and trucks are a bore to drive cause of how easy and flat the handling is and add the dumb down crash models too.

@mightythistle 21 күн бұрын

GTA IV was a glamourized super realistic tech demo that's why it was so impressive. V brought back the fun.

@Bourikii2992 18 күн бұрын

Fun, like intro sequences that last 2 hours and if you veer even a nanometer off script you fail the mission.

@heksevillehero 18 күн бұрын

@@Bourikii2992 Honking your horn in LC traffic can fail tailing missions in GTA IV. That's been an issue with Rockstar game design for a long while.

@Bourikii2992 18 күн бұрын

@heksevillehero Yes, generally being conspicuous causes conspicuousness during inconspicuous missions.

@mightythistle 18 күн бұрын

@@Bourikii2992 well GTA will forever be my number Q1 and a lot has I love it so much. But also cause I’m from the nyc and nj area and I love the aesthetic of the place I grew up in. Sad how no other game as achieved a level of detail and fidelity since then.

@heksevillehero 18 күн бұрын

@@Bourikii2992 Shooting a literal rocket doesn't cause a mission failure, but honking your horn in a city famous for impatient drivers does? Lmao

@criminalcuteness3952 11 күн бұрын

I enjoyed IV driving alot and it is the only gta game where crashing into many things on purpose is actually fun for me. Getting into a patriot and flipping cars over or getting in a big rig and just full speeding down oncoming traffic is some of the most fun

@DOUGL4S1 22 күн бұрын

GTA IV has a mod by Killatomate that adds realistic handling, top speed and damage to all cars. I recommend it for people who want to see what "realistic" handling feels like in GTA.

@nothinghere7391 22 күн бұрын

You can control cars in the air in GTA 4, I don't know what you're talking about. The change just isn't as drastic as it is in GTA V. You could control the cars in the air starting in San Andreas

@TheUnleashedShadow1 22 күн бұрын

In San Andreas, you can only control how your car reaches the object from where it jumps. Once it's in the air, you can pretty much do nothing about it. The only "car" that can be controlled in the air is the Quad (which isn't categorized as a bike in the game), but not by much.

@troypowers750 21 күн бұрын

I think you also need to let go of the accelerator in SA.

@Cinnamowo 16 күн бұрын

I think driving in both game perfectly fits with the setting. GTA4 driving belongs to Liberty City and GTA5 driving belongs to Los Santos

@Arexion5293 19 күн бұрын

GTA San Andreas has a pretty good handling model. Was honestly impressed by how good it felt after having played GTA V back when it was new. The handling model on ps3 was awful.

@sulos4646 17 күн бұрын

Imagine driving a motorcycle was realistic, no one would drive one.

@WhoKnowsZombie 22 күн бұрын

I always thought GTA should just have a switch that lets you turn on or off the simulator type stuff so like it’s more realistic or not

@henrik1743 22 күн бұрын

Not enough people talk about how much better the motorcyle and bicycle handling in particular was in Vice city / san andreas and even GTA 4 to some extenct than GTA V. You couldn't do 360 bunny hops with a bicycle or let a lone a wheelie.. As as kid I always loved to see how many minutes or metres I could do a motorcycle wheelie or MTB wheelie... Please GTA 6 devs bring that old motorcycle arcade handling back it was soooo much fun!!!

@BDozer666 22 күн бұрын

GTA V's motorcycle handling/physics are by far the worst in the series. It was the best in SA and IV (just don't be above 60 FPS in IV or they go ice mode).

@henrik1743 22 күн бұрын

@@BDozer666 exactly! I figured out the Gta IV fps causing issues the hard way lmao. SAN Andreas was definitely peak arcade fun

@DirtyDev 22 күн бұрын

Depends on the motorcycle imo, in gta iv the American motorcycles (like the ones the lost mc use) are really good but the sports bikes suck ass. The sanchez is okay.

@captainszasz5836 22 күн бұрын

@@DirtyDev Sports bikes are the bane of my existence. Especially when playing at a high fps and they just spin out randomly.

@ddd7038 16 күн бұрын

the Choppers in Lost and Damned are alright, but the motorcycles in Base IV are *Dogshit*

@HForceClan 5 күн бұрын

What we need is not one or the other, we need BOTH. -Let supercars/good tires handle more like an arcade, (but fix their offroad capabilities..) and let big rigs and SUVs sway with every turn. -Have a huge difference in steering response and acceleration, but keep top speed relatively close, so you can travel on highways without needing a supercar.

@RealUltimateRevolt 9 күн бұрын

GTA IV's windshields are actually much more realistic

@randomguydoes2901 19 күн бұрын

gta 5 was the most boring motherfucking driving experience, not because the world was large, but because every minute spent doing it felt like they had reskinned GTA Vice City

@shellshocktm 22 күн бұрын

If I want realism, I'll play a sim. GTA games have increasingly become less reliant on driving as being part of the gameplay and more as the means to get from point a to b or from one mission to the next across bigger and bigger maps, thus ironically increasing mindless driving with every entry in the franchise. Just give me something nimble and speedy so it's less painful and I can get on with playing the actual game.

@DedAlexFive 22 күн бұрын

The renowned third person shooter franchise Grand Theft Auto

@shellshocktm 21 күн бұрын

@@DedAlexFive The namesake crime stopped applying to it ages ago. The 3d era GTA isn't just about stealing and drving cars, in case you haven't noticed. And with 6 on the horizon, they're going to make it bigger than ever, encompassing even more gameplay mechanics and storytelling.

@DedAlexFive 21 күн бұрын

@@shellshocktm Ah I know, dont worry I wasnt berating you lol. I got into GTA back with 3 because I was a big fan of Driver 1 and 2, thanks to making it possible to drive and walk around the cities. However one thing I usually do in open world games is just driving around listening to music. Last time I did that was with Just Cause 3 altho that game has like... 30 land vehicles and half of them are absolutely horrific to drive hahaha

@Caligulove 14 күн бұрын

All that matters in a video game is for it to be fun. If reality was so great, we wouldn't be playing video games.

@naibakie8519 11 сағат бұрын

In GTA4 you had to wait a few seconds. Nico would put his seatbelt on. That would stop you flying out the windshield.

@DeadSpacedOut 17 күн бұрын

When GTA 4 came out, I hated it's driving mechanics. When GTA 5 came out, I loved it's driving mechanics, it was basically what I had wanted from GTA 4. Now, after thousands of hours in GTA 5, I think GTA 6 needs to go back to GTA 4's driving mechanics. I want like... 75% GTA 4, and 25% GTA 5 for the driving mechanics, personally. The things I still want in GTA 6 from GTA 5 are A. I wanna be able to flip my car over, I don't wanna lose my beloved insured supercar over a bad turn, and B. I kinda like being able to control the vehicle mid-air, only cuz, once again, I don't wanna lose the vehicle. I suppose my idea would be to allow no mid-air control in Single Player, but have it return for GTA VI online. This could also be the case for flipping the car over. Who would wanna lose the car they grinded so many hours for in GTA 6 online cuz they accidentally flipped it. That would suck.