Least his not a redbull/verstappen Chad.

​@@brentruvio6556Very true.

McLaren is the best F1 team so his opinion is even more trusted to me 😅

@@silverarrow7 Fair enough. Agree to disagree i guess.

He got that shirt from Temu

Same here

If you bought a 3080 to play 1080p at 60fps then you bought the wrong thing. Thats not the fault of pc gaming.

@@DutchManticore Nice cope

So you wasted your money got it lol

Bro they still talk smack lol like bruh 😅 star wars cant even be played on a avg rig

I agree with your opinion and it matches mine to an extent. Price of cards is not a factor for first time buyers. It does affect legacy users primarily. New PC Sales have not been affected that badly, but individual PC components is being pummeled right now.

@@nukfauxsho This is actually true, new users , especially those in first world countries , won't really feel the pinch of the current prices as much, unless they buy high end components. Also the low end market is atrocious we got the gtx 1630, Which costs $250 here in my country, RSA, the RTX 3050, Which is the most expensive '50 series card ever , the Rx 6400 and 6500 are also expensive for what they are. So I'd say if you're somebody who mainly stays on the low end, like me, you're going to feel the steep prices alot.

@@nukfauxsho also lazy developers who don't know how to optimize their games, or aren't given the time to do so by publishers does not help us at all.

@@memenation5105 I feel for those in Second/Third World countries, but the sales of Gaming Components and PC Gaming in First World Countries make up 85-92% of the TOTAL Global Sales. You'll find the used market booms primarily in the Second/Third World Countries, and used components do not generate revenue for Manufacturers.

The RTX 4060 is a low end gpu? It's at least medium end. And no, I'm not justifying its high price. Edit: I forgot to put the gpu model.

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You can only optimize stuff so much before you start to just straight up remove features of the game.

@@blackdoc6320Especially when you as a dev needs to work with all sorts of hardware and software variables

I completely rebuilt a AM4 system from a AM4 system. went from 2700x to a 5700x. rx 580 to a rx 6750 xt. a B450 to a B550. all because of prices. and 12% more performance wasnt enough to drop an extra $300 to $500 on AM5. I built with a budget. Not on the fact of wanting the best thats out there.

Bro thats ass compared to the ps5 and its 500 bucks 😂

@@fabolousjada5070it’s not ass but the GPU is slightly worse. Which kinda sucks. But remember PCs can do more than consoles, people don’t solely game on them.

Would it suprise you that the 4090 fires did not affect sales at all? It actually didnt! Same thing was thought of during the 970 3.5gb news cycle, but they sold very well and above expectations.

Was an easy fix and it was basically end user not take the time to look at what they where doing. You could from the start get a better cable that would work on towers for 15 bucks. I notice as soon as I put the card in it was a bad idea to use it the cable in the box.

If you buy higher end hardware you they retain their value for longer, so when it comes time to sell your old parts or PC they will sell for a proportionally higher price than lower end hardware from the same generation of production. So the total cost of ownership is lower for mid-to-high tier pc hardware. It has a greater barrier to entry but you have to think long term.

@@jollygoodfellow3957 I understand that, but that doesn't do anything to actually help me actually afford those higher parts in the first place. It's not a choice I'm making, it's just reality for those of us who are on very limited incomes (I'm disabled, so not a lot of options, but if you want to help me buy a 4090 I can give you my Paypal lol)

@@mr.guillotine3766 You hit the nail on the head, just because higher end parts will overall last longer, it's being able to afford them in the first, place, and many people working paycheck to paycheck, or limited incomes like ourselves have to go with what they can afford, and make it last long as possible. For example, I work for a non profit, and while it won't make me rich it pays the bills, with a little left over but I have to watch what I spend, so just a few months back I built my first new computer for the first time in almost a decade, and I got the best I could afford after getting a deal on a weird Chinese Erying MATX Mobo with an Intel 12900H(14 core/20 thread laptop chip soldered onto the board with a custom heatsink, but it's a beast on Manjaro GNOME Linux), and a used AMD RX6650XT 8GB GPU with 32GB DDR4 RAM, and a 256GB NVME SSD, while carrying over my older storage HDD's, so yeah being on a more limited budget I make my system last as long as possible till I'm forced to upgrade, and even then I can still take most of my older systems, and make them usable for older games, and basic daily task using Manjaro GNOME Linux, and Solus Budgie Linux,

There 3600 is decent, I’ve got one too with an rtx 3070. I’m replacing it with a 5900x though, it’s nice that I don’t need to get a new mobo! X570

@@Hijynx87 Yep, I can do a couple of upgrades still and still use my B550M mobo...I can go with a Ryzen 7 from the 3000 series or Ryzen 5 or 7 from the 5000 series and they would all be upgrades from my current 3600. Then in a couple of years, then I can upgrade to AM5 maybe...or just get as much use as I can from my current platform (hoping to get at least 3-5 more years out of it before I have to go to AM5 and DDR5 RAM) I did just get 2 more sticks of RAM (will give me a total of 32 gigs of RAM) and a 2TB nvme, so I'll be doing those upgrades this weekend. I saw prices starting to move back up just a little so I decided to just get those upgrades now because I don't think they will get much cheaper than they are now (I paid like $68 for a 2TB nvme and only like $30 for 16gigs of RAM...and I can still use both of those if I do any other upgrades as long as I'm still on my current platform..the storage can be moved to any system or upgrade)

this is basically what I came to say, sorta similar situation, decent specced gaming pc that cost a VERY pretty penny for all the parts started crashing, BSODing, lagging, stuttering in 2021 until I threw in the towel in summer 2022. I replaced part after part multiple times and spent countless hours, time effort and trouble and sleepless nights down the google rabbit hole, testing and troubleshooting, and hurting my back and neck digging and rearranging internal pc guts installing and uninstalling parts... it ended up being the last thing I would have ever expected and the only part I hadn't replaced, the 3700x ryzen cpu randomly dying without ever being overheated nor OC'd. I threw in the towel and got an i5 12500 (similar to 5600x), decent enough h670 mobo and carried over the old parts and that fixed that problem that was absolutely infuriating and maddening. Still had some windows update and driver gremlins though here and there. In my mid 30s now I'm done at the next major issue lol. My body is tired after 15+ years being at a desk just to pc game too, I had more fun in the xbox 360 days chilling out in a recliner or bed. And honestly, considering how my 3070 gpu alone was way more money than a ps5/series x, I'm not that happy with the performance considering the huge cost my pc cost total compared to just chilling comfy on a console in bed/the couch/recliner infront of a big tv. In my early 20s, I looked forward to tech problems as a nerdy way to "fix" stuff or feel accomplished, but in my mid 30s now that has all but fizzled out lol, irl is stressful enough and BS enough to have to deal with it just trying to pc game or browse online. It is NOT all sunshine and rainbows contrary to what elitists online like to portray. I think a modern console and an ok enough cheap laptop to play old stuff and retro games on emulator is the best of both worlds. I really do commend xbox on the backwards compatibility thing, I could lay in bed and effortlessly switch between a few of my fav fps ever, BF3 (360), BF4(XB1), BF1(XB1) effortlessly with a few clicks of the controller. IDK, at a certain point in life, you just get tired of BS and want stuff to work reliably and simply with as least trouble as humanly possible. Most stuff these days is cross play anyway to potentially play with buddies on other platforms too.

PC gaming was never cheap. If someone wanted cheap gaming then console is where they moved to. I am impressed that Nvidia is even making 60 series cards, makes no sense considering how little money they would be making on those cards.

@@MrDecessus PC gaming was never "cheap", but it was still possible to build a system on a budget. As for the rest of your comment, by "60 series", do you mean the RTX 4060? If so, I couldn't disagree with you more. The 60's and 70's have always been the go to for most PC gamers.

no thanks. ill stick to my "set top box" PS5. all the fun without the headaches.

@@unknown-jx5yt I've been thinking of getting an Xbox Series X for when I just want to sit back and chill and leave my PC for my SVG work.

@@MrHowardMoon not a bad idea imo. nothing against PC gaming or gamers but ease of use is the main reason ive always been a console player.

Bruh, upgrdae the cpu

@@erplayerj Next gen CPUs are right around the corner and I'm not really having any performance issues so theres no point.

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DDU and Reinstall Driver. Underclock and see, if does not work, RMA!

Same here. By buying older games with lower specs requirement, all we got to do is to look for upgrades especially GPU in used market. And now that the mine craze had passed, it opened up used market to a whole new level. I've bought mine used GPU for fraction of the cost, of course with some suspicion of their performance in mind, and used it for my rig. Lucky for me I haven't run upon any problem and felt like it was the best purchase ever. Currently running on Ryzen 5 3600X (used) and RX 580 (used) and playing 2019 games.

Just buy a ps5 youll see your wasting your time

I have a laptop with a mobile 3060, and it's awesome for 1080p gaming

I got the 4090 for high refresh rate 4k gaming

Just get a ps5 star wars didnt even work for you guys 😂

@@fabolousjada5070 yeah I got the ps5 and series X for convenience and I don't want to be at my desk 24/7

I ended up having too. Just too slow rn

Yep, and if u're not really a huge fan of maximizing things out. Desktop GTX 1080 (non Ti) and RTX 3060M user here and I can sort of feel the lag if u pair it with old cpus - luckily I have i3-12100F but still. Plus u cannot run things on Ray Tracing...there's a way to run directx ray trace on 1080 and 1080Ti, but dont expect them to run above 30fps.

most games don't even work on 1080 ti

I went from a 12900k and 3090 to a 7800x3d and 4090 and it was a nice upgrade. So many more games can now run at 4K 60+ fps without any frame generation or upscaling tech.

And the handheld PC space is back in full tilt, picked up an ROG ally and I'm seeing them everywhere now(and they are not cheap). And how well the steam deck is doing. That's a break into a whole new space essentially for mainstream PC gaming devices.

Did you sell the scar?

@@zzz-cb3xe I did for 1k

In lots of places also, we've reached the crosspoint of electricity prices going up enough and GPUs being power hungry enough to make using a computer a financial concern to people who were just about able afford the hardware. I wouldn't have minded much GPUs to have these big generation-to-generation ups in performance if they focused to keep close to the same powerbudgets we would expect 10-15 years ago.

I don't think it's advancing slowly, I personally believe it's being held back because the companies know that consumers will not pay the price that TSMC is asking for, so the end result is a smaller die from TSMC to cut costs down. AMD has quite literally mentioned that they could have easily designed a larger gpu than the 7900 XTX, but chose not to because it would be too expensive and no one would want it. The things keeping gpu cost high is the increased demand for vram capacity, and the cost of the die at TSMC going up. It's why "budget gpus" have almost entirely died off, because we're at the point in history where you need quite an amount of vram before even considering to launch a budget gpu sub 200.

​@@DudewitbowAPUs increasingly will take the place of budget GPUs. We're basically at GTX1060ish perf already. That's where the innovation will be, performance per watt.

im really excited for when the 7000G chips come out, with the faster ram they should be dramatically better than last gen. but the lack of performance boost isnt from tech limits, its from business focus. everything is being put twards AI, they dont actually care about gaming. hence every real boost now they have to use software because thats where there focus went to

My computer never took up my entire room buddy and im 25

I purchased a gaming laptop but thinking about selling it since I still have many ps4 games that i need to play. The laptop will depreciate significantly if i don't use it the next 2 years. I think i better off selling it and play the old games i haven't played and by the time I am finished it is going to be 2030 and then I definitely will need newer hardware

LOL this has to be one of my favorite comments I've ever read 😂!

realistically the collapse of the crypto market has caused the lower sales of video cards.

Fully agree also, there another issue, well at least in my country. The greed of retailers. GPU prices even for the previous gen from both AMD and NVIDIA, haven't come down. They still prey on those who want to upgrade and waited, they still want them to pay big bucks. As I said at least in my country. Plus the 2nd marked is still flodded with 3000 series NVIDIA GPU's and 6000 series AMD GPU's from the mining days. With a little bit of research and care for those cards who can really find a good if not excellent deal there.

@@Teksers - For those countries with prohibitively expensive GPUs does not affect NEW PC Sales and NEW Gaming Components that much. Most of the time the Used market makes up 60-80 percent of sales in 2nd/3rd world countries. Those sales are not tracked by manufacturers typically since there are no royalties and no residuals.

People have less money now than ever. Costs of life are a big reason folks are not buying pc components

@@shiinzu Agreed, but the market studies show that those with some disposable money (even a little) are using it to spend on gaming over dining out, new car, or vacations.

I would say its all about underpaid gamers that can't afford much more than bottom of the barrel equipment.

I know the feeling, man... But then again, I don't think it's all as bad as they say.