The Problem with Peek-a-Boo - Everyone an Expert?

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www.myboxingcoach.com - In 2016 I published a short video on peek-a-boo, the boxing style defined by Cus D'Amato and really made famous by Mike Tyson.
I have nothing at all against peek-a-boo, quite the opposite. I have always admired and been fascinated by Cus D'Amato and was blown away by the peak Mike Tyson. He used the concept of peek-a-boo to delight and excite the boxing world.
When I put out my short peek-a-boo video, and it was short at only 1:50, I picked out a couple of peek-a-boo style elements, the elements that I felt defined the style.
Now, by and large I am very lucky when it comes to people leaving comments on my videos. Many are complimentary, and quite a few offer differing viewpoints. I like differing viewpoints, I always learn and enjoy the back and forth - it's a shared understanding.
In response to peek-a-boo though, there were some comments that I would describe as ranging from angry to just plain aggressive and impolite.
No problem, that's fine.
It did strike me though that concepts like peek-a-boo, and the similarly venerated 'Philly Shell', may lead to people being blinded to the rich range of boxing styles and stylists out there.
Pushing for a versatile range of boxing skills, not defining yourself solely as a practitioner of peek-a-boo or philly shell, and learning from a range of sources leads to a much better training regime and ultimately a better boxing outcome.
No harm in being a peek-a-boo expert, just don't constrain yourself to being that alone. There is far too much cool stuff out there to learn.
Cheers
Fran
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@myboxingcoach 2 жыл бұрын

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@dusandragovic09srb 4 ай бұрын

Make the World Box to save it!🙏💪 Shadow boxing alone can get you far! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b8djpbCel-DRm2w.html

@lexlavi 3 жыл бұрын

“Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist” -Picasso

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

One of my favourite quotes👍

@boxingforselfdefence7620 3 жыл бұрын

@@myboxingcoach it's not strictly speaking true though, as a concept. The reality is that most people with a particular niche or style, started with that from an early age and just developed it, e.g. Ali. thinking/working differently doesn't just happen one day, it's a compulsion. Most greats started young. Children don't care about rules they absorb a form insofar as it works for them and they will experiment insofar as it yields successful outcomes.

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, that's a viewpoint. I tend to take it from an angle of saying that every newcomer to boxing goes through a certain process (which can vary from coach to coach) but that involves learning the fundamentals through regular and deliberate practice. I take that as approaching the learning process like a pro. From their, they learn by doing which is exactly where your point comes in.

@boxingforselfdefence7620 3 жыл бұрын

@@myboxingcoach yes. I think there are obvious dangers to encouraging people to go and find themselves stylistically but also dangers to not embracing stylistic niches that bear fruit.

@chicchitammuottocifa 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful

@badgerbush3556 3 жыл бұрын

I think some people forget that what worked for Mike Tyson worked, because he was Mike Tyson.

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

You know what, that's a fair point!

@badgerbush3556 3 жыл бұрын

Fran Sands Thanks Fran your a good man and I'm a big fan. 👍

@stans9293 3 жыл бұрын

@@myboxingcoach Eventually Mike Tyson could no longer fight like Mike Tyson. He gained some weight and the core strength faded a bit with lack of focus. That powerful style is tough to maintain for several rounds

@BallisticaMetal 3 жыл бұрын

@@stans9293 That's the reason he used to have legs like trunks. And also people forget how he in his prime struggled against James Tillis and other fighters that took him to 12 rounds.

@PhoenixProdLLC 3 жыл бұрын

@@myboxingcoach I watched an old Patterson fight...the series with Ingmar (geez he knocked him down like 6 times in one fight but Floyd got him back for it :P)... do you see a similarity from Floyd to Mikes peek-a-boo, or am I assuming it?

@LeeH3nson 3 жыл бұрын

Fair enough addressing them fran, but your body of work speaks for itself, you're a very good public educator on the sweet science

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you pal

@just-a-fella3212 2 жыл бұрын

It seems to me that the feet must be wide enough to aid lateral slips, and stance/steps must also be long enough to enable quick advance into close range when slips are used as entries for offending. But what would I know, I'm not even a boxer, just a bushie who punches stringy barks.

@demarcjohnson 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone is an expert until they get punched in the face.

@onthebeachinsitges 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone is an expert when they get used to being punched in the face and still get into the ring with a view to learning

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Never a truer word 👍

@biscuit7959 Жыл бұрын

@@onthebeachinsitges once you get hit you will wake up before you learn how to dodge those

@roarrrist Жыл бұрын

So what do you propose? Stop all analytics? Stop the studies?

@lefthandwarlock8503 Жыл бұрын

you’re not mike tyson

@nicolay3187 3 жыл бұрын

Tyson's stance is squared when he's in close, or he would bring his feet closer together before switching lead legs. To say he was always squared means he doesn't know the style.

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Yep, my thoughts exactly Nick.

@nicolay3187 3 жыл бұрын

@@myboxingcoach Yeah it's a natural boxer stance that mostly cuts off the ring and shuffles forward, once he's in the corner he starts cutting lose with short range, but powerful punches.

@nicolay3187 3 жыл бұрын

@@myboxingcoach with a few exceptions like a gazelle type punch off of a slip

@nicolay3187 3 жыл бұрын

@@myboxingcoach That's more like peek-a-boo, the only real expert would be Cus

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Yep, of course a staple of Floyd Patterson - belter shot.

@bradbuckinghamhandsomeprin6027 3 жыл бұрын

I've done some TKD, some kickboxing and some boxing, but Fran Sands is an elite level boxing coach. In my opinion if I disagree with Fran Sands about what he says about boxing the most reasonable explanation is that I don't know as much as I think I do.

@PhoenixProdLLC 3 жыл бұрын

This. And fwiw, I prefer to have this disposition towards any legit trainer. They know, I don't. Pretty simple really 😂😂

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Brad, really kind. I guess I'm a coach who coaches, and therefore you learn over time that there is always more to learn 👍

@bradbuckinghamhandsomeprin6027 3 жыл бұрын

There is always more to learn. I wish that I would have had access to your channel when I was boxing and kickboxing. I am very glad to have access now, even though I probably won't be fighting anymore at 47 years old with 2 jobs. I have recently started stretching and since then my back and body can handle hard exercise on the bag (have not been able to do that for at least 4 years, thought it was my age, turns out flexibility imbalances cause problems) I've been hard at it in my garage for a few months now and feel much younger, even sleeping better which has been a serious past issue. Thanks for what you do.

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Good man, keep at it Brad, consistency will pay off 👍

@Jorary209 3 жыл бұрын

Lol I love the sarcasm and gestures with each comment. Everyone's an expert in the KZfaq comments and want to impose it on everyone oppresively. Nice video!

@Shad0wmoses 3 жыл бұрын

i know right...i from time to time will chime in on my knowledge based on what ive learned from watching videos and my minimum amount of irl training and even from just watching fights..but if i know the person is a coach or a fighter ill shut the fuck up. i see so many arm chair experts on instagram even trying to argue with pro fighters as if they have any expertise or experience in anything related to fighting when they don't!

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

😀. Thanks for watching

@trodriguez362 3 жыл бұрын

the jab, left and right hook, right cross, upper cuts, it's amazing how these boxers take that and build upon that to create a style to suit their physicality. my favorite is James l lights out Tony, he created angles, positioned himself to counter punch,

@EternalEyeEntertain 2 жыл бұрын

I agree. It's important to not be too indoctrinated about a fight style. I love the Peek A Boo style. But even Cus himself would never teach everyone the same way. He'd work with what you already had as a natural talent or trait, be it height, weight, speed, durability etc. As an eclectic martial artist, I believe in learning something and use from it what you will, for either self defense or sport. Good video. Cheers.

@josh0253 Жыл бұрын

Exactly if you watch how Jose Torres and Floyd Patterson used it it was almost COMPLETELY different than how Tyson would go on to use it, people get to obsessed with mimicking move for move what tyson did and don’t understand that for 99% of people if you try to use it exactly how tyson did your probably gonna get pummeled in there cause tyson was a once in a generation physical specimen who could go from standing straight up to slipping side to side out of the center line but most people cant do that in a actual fight

@EternalEyeEntertain 7 ай бұрын

@@shankarjaiswal1249 I think so. But in boxing? Or overall self defense?

@EternalEyeEntertain 7 ай бұрын

@@josh0253 Couldn't agree more. I only use a few things from the Cus method. Especially the spring and twist. Boy I love that footwork. Because as an eclectic martial artist, it puts me in a perfect grappling position without having to depend on shooting for a single.

@giovelazquez8872 4 ай бұрын

@@EternalEyeEntertainWhat footwork?

@EternalEyeEntertain 4 ай бұрын

@@giovelazquez8872 Thanks for the reply. 🙂 The peekaboo style footwork. Moving forward in a way that cuts off the boxer who likes to pack peddle. But particular like the Spring, the twist and the cus D'amato shift. And overall balance. As a grappler I appreate ways to get in close fast and efficiently. I can send you some links of Mike Tyson and his friend Tom Patti, explaining the science behind it.

@samir.ebrahim 2 жыл бұрын

I made the same mistake choosing solely the peekaboo style. But I learned that it wasn't suited to me completely. So I started looking at other fighters, their skills, their strengths. What coach Fran is saying, from my experience is the truest statement you will ever hear. Once I started learning other skills and strengths, I became a better fighter overall. Because at the end of the day, the fact is you aren't mike Tyson. It's just that simple. Individuals will have different strengths and weaknesses, a great fighter works on those every day. You can't indentify them or get better if you are in the illusion that you are mike Tyson.

@myboxingcoach 2 жыл бұрын

That's it Samir...be versatile, have many answers 👍

@Bruh01234 Жыл бұрын

I like Canelos style but I seem to get caught to much I’ve decided to maybe be more in and out than just walking the opponent down

@Bruh01234 Жыл бұрын

Can u give me any tips on helping me find my strengths and weaknesses so I can work on my strengths to build a style perfect for me?

@samir.ebrahim Жыл бұрын

@@Bruh01234 sparring and feedback

@billyettouati1124 2 жыл бұрын

I loved the 90 second video when I watched it the first time cuz you were the only one who looked like to incorporate the right basic boxing stance with correct head movement the way you should without compromising balance and correct form and movement. Anyone else showing how to do it on here just believed it was just square with your hands at your chin but anyone who would try that would get flattened by any real competitor

@johnsolagbade7532 3 жыл бұрын

👍🏾 learning the full range of skills and cultivate them all. Yes, Fran 👏🏽

@spear73 3 жыл бұрын

Yes Fran, enjoying your video on my morning break,be like water be versatile like a egg and have the open mindset

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Bingo, in a nutshell 👍

@edwardjkeogh 3 жыл бұрын

I'm no expert but your analysis makes sense to me. Tyson didn't stand square at distance, he closed very quickly before squaring up. Once inside he would move or pivot to the left or right of his opponent into orthodox or southpaw stance to throw combinations from angles. In his prime he would change stances very quickly always transitioning. I'm going to try out your beginner boxer toolkit for fitness. Keep the insightful content coming!!

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Yes Edward, just about spot on. Thanks for watching pal and for your kind words 👍

@mardub7568 3 жыл бұрын

Fran, you are a legend. I wish i had opportunity to train in your gym. Stay safe during this difficult times 👍

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, that's really kind. You keep yourself safe and well too 👍

@LosDjango007 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your time. Appreciate it.

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks pal

@WalterGomes30 3 жыл бұрын

You are a gentleman. Keep up the excellent work.

@davewarrender2056 Жыл бұрын

Luv this , I'm trying to learn boxing for fitness and defense. But I'm 52 , disabled . However I did train m/a for 20 yrs when younger. The point about Mike Tyson's stance when out of range is spot on. After analysing my stance , I do the same , a side on stance allows to cover distance more quickly , increase the effective range of the jab and right hand,. Also transition from side on to square on at close range is easy, as you can open up your stance as your back foot moves with the right, thus allowing you to be ready to initiate peek a boo side slips , and foot work. Also slipping back to side on allows for fast and effective movement out of range

@fisharefriends598 2 жыл бұрын

Having just watched a few break downs of Tyson, he actually had a slightly more relaxed squared stance. The hosts comments not mine. With video evidence of the original “peekaboo” fighters, before tyson. Tyson would shift from relaxed square to tight squared, depending on needs Peekaboo is the basic ethos of it… what made it Tyson’s style was his height, this opponents height. It was catered to tyson and what he had to do to win the heavyweight

@ryanbates8816 3 жыл бұрын

Love your vids picking up some awesome techniques 👌

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them, thank you

@jimmybrennan9 3 жыл бұрын

Great response Fran, you receive far more positive comments off boxers and coaches some with real good reputations rather than keyboard coaches, some who have probably never laced a pair of gloves on their lives. Keep doing what your doing Pal, wouldn't even bother with the haters myself. Good man

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Jim, that really means a lot. The comments are funny more than anything, just wanted to use them as an opportunity to get people to think about practicing versatility. As you and I know, however good you think you are at one style, it's only a matter of time before you meet someone who's better at that style than you, so you need the skills to execute a Plan B - in my case I often got down to Plan G and still took a hiding :-) April 12th mate, can't come quick enough!

@alessandroferro5308 3 жыл бұрын

they can't stand your intellectual honesty coach...you are the man!

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Alessandro 👍

@scooterpower59 3 жыл бұрын

Great Channel. Great Job Coach! T Shaped for this V Tapered.

@habibmalik1619 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much Master for your helpful videos. Please keep it up and don't get distracted by ignorant fools. You're an amazing coach. God bless you!

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Habib, I will👍

@-NemoMeImpuneLacessit 3 жыл бұрын

There's an old saying "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing", some of the comments you read out demonstrated that truism.

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, very true 👍

@DavidFlores-yd1pj 3 жыл бұрын

Good video sir. I was kinda curious, what books you have on the shelf back there?

@skiunarara1462 3 жыл бұрын

If you were my coach sir, I would be so happy to learn from you👍👍 You're the best Mr Sands🤜🤛✊✊

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, that;s very kind.

@genises200 3 жыл бұрын

Been waiting for this one!! Could you show how to slip getting inside to set up a combo. Lot of dudes have a great jab to keep away and especially a tall one

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Think I must have done so already, feels like I have, but I'm a bit absent-minded. will check and if I haven't it's on the list👍

@williamoforangedidnothingwrong 3 жыл бұрын

Great suggestion, been thinking of that myself

@genises200 3 жыл бұрын

@@myboxingcoach slipping very well in place yes! But moving forward or to move at an angle for a slip, to see the footwork process

@ogeh1268 3 жыл бұрын

@@genises200 use lateral movement

@stevencarrillo3615 Ай бұрын

Like any style of boxing there is a weakness but understanding how to use the style important that is key.

@bripowered 3 жыл бұрын

Nevermind the negative comments Fran, Thanks for all you do for the community and the hard work that you put into your content.

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@LordSteveFinnegan 3 жыл бұрын

Another poignant and well articulated video coach 👏 keep them coming

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Steve👍

@gussstavo 3 жыл бұрын

I think people talk about some boxers and only watched the highlights and havent seen more than 2 full fights at best maybe not even one full fight..

@darnellwalker3499 2 жыл бұрын

You make great videos, very informative and you know what you’re talking about. Critics talk because they have the time to 🤷🏽‍♂️ keep up the great work 👍🏽

@inhometraineroakville1174 3 жыл бұрын

With Peekaboo, we're seeing the exact same problem with traditional martial arts. All these people arguing about what real Peekaboo is and isn't. There is nothing wrong with any of the arts. It's all the self proclaimed experts who mess things up. I once spoke to a Peekaboo "coach" who told me I should actually place my hands on my face like glue. Try sparring like that and see what happens. If you take a shot on your forearms which is inevitable during sparring, you'll punch yourself!

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Ha. Exactly Chris. Be open and willing to understand all kinds of variations on a theme, it pays off in delivering a rounded competitor.

@duncantwaits5809 3 жыл бұрын

Hey there Fran, great conversation! You have a good philosophy of coaching, cheers from dow under!

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Duncan, hope all is well.

@duncantwaits5809 3 жыл бұрын

@@myboxingcoach Doing ok thanks Fran, I trust that all is well with you also.

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

@@duncantwaits5809 Yes mate, getting by thanks 👍

@duncantwaits5809 3 жыл бұрын

@@myboxingcoach 👍😎

@ryannaidoo8566 3 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for mentioning Floyd Patterson, maybe now people can see how you can make peekaboo your own.

@kyunanwarrior765 2 жыл бұрын

woo,you are amazing sir

@myboxingcoach 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much, that's really kind oif you to say and thank you for watching👍

@derrick_smitty 3 жыл бұрын

I was getting angrier with each comment. These commenters must have stumbled across this one particular video and are not aware of your credentials. Your peek a boo style video was an excellent review of the approach. Keep up the good work coach.

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Derrick, really appreciate your comment 👍

@graemesfitness6032 3 жыл бұрын

I'm sure they all have boxing gyms and produced fighters.Listen to them lol.

@PhoenixProdLLC 3 жыл бұрын

😂

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Yep, I'm sure that's the case😂

@kostasskks7547 3 жыл бұрын

Greetings coach! 💪🥊🥊🥊🇬🇷🇬🇧

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

greetings to you sir👍

@kostasskks7547 3 жыл бұрын

@@myboxingcoach thank you for sharing your lights!

@mindyourownbastardbu Жыл бұрын

A beer and a chat about boxing at the Phil one day Fran. Listening to you makes me miss Liverpool man, and the practical logical approach of scousers. Best in da wairld 😋🤝❤️🤝😋

@patrickjay1400 2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣 "im a martial artist!" 👌 Love this mate

@Brucelee-pv6uf 2 жыл бұрын

1:00 (staying square ) not slip with legs 4:45 not square at long range 5:50 philly shell 6:25 waist bent 8:10versatile boxers great boxers

@Bruh01234 Жыл бұрын

Can u give me any tips on helping me find my strengths and weaknesses so I can work on my strengths to build a style perfect for me?

@lexlavi 3 жыл бұрын

Another great vid Fran! Could you or anyone offer advice on how I can be firm in my stance. My opponents can easily walk me down or I’m also easily knocked backed or to the side. Thanks!

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

It's all about you deciding to give ground. It's not a battle of strength, it's a battle of brains. Have a little look at this. Give ground, but take make them pay for the ground you give - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pNliaah8sMvRm4E.html

@heatherrigby7371 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant

@granddaddy_funk 2 жыл бұрын

Love James tony. I thought you were going to go the other way with this video. Tyson even explains how he closes the distance with the jab. Definitely uses a more bladed stance to get in like you said. Further more he would still technically be closer to his opponent with one foot than the other because of the extreme angles he cut. I look at him as a switch hitter/ peekaboo . Nice video

@winstondavis378 2 жыл бұрын

Well said

@sakurabaLP 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, mister Fran!! Make a video about Rocky Marciano style, PLEASE!!! 😎

@oskarstaruch353 3 жыл бұрын

Great vid

@blackoutgaming8246 2 жыл бұрын

Fran Sands do you have your own boxing gym? I would love to join one day

@kxe7934 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Fran, Can you do some "how-tos" about how to about to box-like Marvelous Marvin Hagler, or Sugar Ray Leonard?

@folknblues1 3 жыл бұрын

Tyson in close did square up sometimes, but he also used angles, and switched stance. Good point about him not being able to go square from long range. I associate peekaboo with shorter/smaller fighters, like Tyson (5'10", or so.) Patterson was about 6', maybe a bit less, and weighed mid-180s. A boxer adopts and adapts a style that matches his size and personality. If Frazier had stood 4 or 5 inches taller, he'd have been just as aggressive, but I doubt he'd have relied quite as much on bobbing and weaving. In the case of Kenny Norton, I thought his adopting the cross-armed stance was a mistake, particularly against Foreman, who took advantage of the opening provided for his hook to the body. Ironically, in his second career, Big George also used the cross-arm stance.

@petetimpone8023 2 жыл бұрын

My son is 8, short but powerful. He has a hard time with opponents that have a longer reach. I'm weighing my options of teaching him the peekaboo style. He is beginning his amateur journey. Pointers?

@domelectric798 3 жыл бұрын

🍻way to stay positive coach....once again proving that this is a very mental/ cerebral sport....

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate

@DRS659 3 жыл бұрын

Fran you're a wild man haaha gonna get the youtube weirdos worked up again. Glad to see you're still having fun with it. Any thoughts on BJS v Canelo? Also had a question about the kelly fight and I'm definitely not trying to make excuses but that kid lost a lot of blood and I was curious if that could have effected him at all or if you've seen it effect a fighter before. Like getting light headed sort of thing?

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Tyler, thanks pal. I think BJS may frustrate Canelo for a short while, he's a smart and elusive boxer, but I doubt he can do much more than that. As for Josh, one of them things. Doubt it was blood loss, looked like a lot of blood (weird place for a cut) but not enough to weaken. I just think his tactics may have been a bit off. Avanesyan is a skilled and tough fighter, I think Kelly would have needed 100% concentration for 12 rounds executing a smart and aggressive fighting retreat. He'll come again, bags of talent, hard work and heart.

@austinboren161 3 жыл бұрын

I’m 6’4 at 155, peekaboo is what I my coach teaches, I prefer a much more bladed stance as I have skateboarded and pitched in baseball all my life so it feels more natural standing sideways and I feel that peekaboo almost working against my natural advantages, what others could I potentially research and try?

@c9dp232 2 жыл бұрын

Ur to tall for this style way to tall😂😂

@doom6992 2 жыл бұрын

Tomas hearns, Larry Holmes, Erick el terrible morales and Gerald maccnelan Wacht this boxers Sorry for my bad english im from México

@miaandfam7770 2 жыл бұрын

I have thought about this style and think I am going to adapt this am new to boxing and am training for a white collar charity fight and am having trouble with my footwork am southpaw aswell anyway thanks for the video any advice would be great people

@yosefveira 2 жыл бұрын

Another great video, as usual, thanks my friend. I got a question. I heard some time ago to Bas Rutten (heavyweight champion MMA) saying that in the future we'll see in the combat sports a change in the stances frome the usual blade or semi-blade to a totally square stance. His opinion was that when you're in a square stance, your jab turn in a cross (speaking about power). I'm a simple old martial artist and a newie in box (totally fell in love with box, I admit it) so Inot try to question the wisdom of a legend like Bas, but I've a reasonable duobts about that. First of all, I never find a stance work with everthing. I've never believed in "recipes" for sucess... The box, as other martial arts, is a dinamic discipline when the goal is the ADAPTATION, and, as you say, the VERSATILITY. So I think, even more when kicks, elbows and knees are involved, the situation will determine the stance. In fact we can see fighters in combat sports winning using all kind the stances. I want to know your opinion, based in your experience of years, if some day we really see "only one square stance" in the fights. Thanks a lot in advance. Keep the good work.

@tosinade1608 3 жыл бұрын

Good insight on the Mike Tyson and Floyd styles

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@johntay3831 8 ай бұрын

mike tyson was short and had a very low center of gravity, thats why he suited the Peekaboo style so well. If you were to get Dmitry Bivol to do the peekaboo style, he would fail badly. Shadow box, move around and find your own style.

@nathanthompson6050 2 жыл бұрын

Two of the best examples of what is said in this video are Floyd Patterson and Lomenchenko. Watch their fights in slow motion, particularly Loma's Olympic bouts and tell me you don't see a ton of the high guard, head movement, angles, shifting, square stance at close range, etc exactly like Tyson and then look at all the other techniques employed as well and you can see how the stereotypical techniques of peek a boo can be combined to create very versatile multi dimensional fighters. Watch Patterson vs Chuvalo to see a less aggressive Patterson who stays on the outside and ties up a lot on the inside very much the opposite of traditional peek a boo.

@harveerbenning169 3 жыл бұрын

I mean take elements from it like Tyson shifts possibly use the movement etc when you need too, but I mean you don’t want to emulate someone else you want your own style

@mgtowsoldier8673 3 жыл бұрын

Technically superb fran....keep doing what your doing....never listen to anyone whos not pulled the gloves on....

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more.

@floxwood3958 3 жыл бұрын

Where should my hands be when slipping and using headmovement?

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Generally speaking, high. Some more experienced boxers drop their hands, but they do so understanding and accepting the risks based on backing their ability to avoid shots with body movement and land their own shots with the openings created.

@genises200 3 жыл бұрын

The Chad returns

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@joshuacreel9668 Жыл бұрын

T shape very well-spoken

@juliorubio4516 3 жыл бұрын

I once commented for you to do a peek a boo video....really appreciate this more....thumbs up little devil emoji

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

You've genuinely just made me laugh Julio, and that's something I appreciate...especially with everything's that going on! Thanks pal👍

@Khaled-bd9cq Жыл бұрын

Is peekaboo style working good with me I'm 6'1 ??

@TheLockon00 3 жыл бұрын

"Little emoji: angry devil face." Oh, yikes. Not the angry devil face.

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

😂 Very disconcerting Richard

@ryannaidoo8566 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for mentioning the other peekaboo champions, learn it then make it your own

@ronaldyang2295 3 жыл бұрын

As another martial artist, that one guy made me super embarrassed. Probably a hotheaded young kid, nice response Fran. If possible could you check out Dustin Poirier in the UFC? Interesting guard and would like to hear what you’ve got to say about it. Also would like to hear what you think about Jersey Joe Walcott. Great stuff as always mate!

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ronald, appreicate that. Thank you also for the Dustin suggestion. I've head his name but not taken the time to check him out, so I've just made a note in my reminder pad to have a look. Jersey Joe - great fighter. Someone I think who should be mentioned alongside Joe Louis for bringing boxing styles on...if that makes sense? I should put some time into articulating it in a video. Cheers pal.

@HittokiriBatosai 3 жыл бұрын

"No it isn't" 😂😂😂 Excellent point-by-point rebuttal

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

:-) Thanks pal

@EasyRiderMusicNE 3 жыл бұрын

I agree completely

@CoelhoSports 3 жыл бұрын

mike tyson was very unique in that he was neither lefty nor righty. some boxers can fight well from both sides but tyson was 100% ambidextrous. if you ask him if he's righty or lefty he probably wouldn't know what the question means. larry holmes said the most dangerous punches are the ones you can't see coming, and when tyson was in range, from one punch to the next he shifted from righty to lefty and most opponents had no idea where the next punch was coming from. early on when tyson was moving his head (kevin rooney worked on that a lot) and throwing hard fast combos by the numbers he was able to make his opponents miss and make them pay. this wasn't from fighting "square". it was from shifting quickly between righty and lefty in the same combo or haymakers. you can't really teach that. kevin rooney was able to teach him to use what he had, make his taller opponents get within range and reach down, and throw hard fast bombs from both sides, but it was working off what god gave mike. too bad he couldn't keep it together a little longer. he'll probably be the last under 6' heavyweight champ in history, definitely the last unified champ.

@waynehawkins7581 Жыл бұрын

I agree with you

@fuadmuradov480 3 жыл бұрын

Any style is more an element or no way is the way . I would not copy any stile but would use elements out of them.

@samueluaperaamo4639 3 жыл бұрын

So true

@danrolli3576 9 ай бұрын

But you have a point I say learn different styles are different approaches. That makes you better. What difference does it make for me? I’m going to be 59L O L when I boxed I used to lead with my face lol I just hit hard I learn more when I got older.

@stephank8641 3 жыл бұрын

😂😂 love it! I am sure those people never trained anyone in their life but yet... They Know better right?

@markant9534 3 жыл бұрын

Hello Fran, have you heard of a youtube channel called Fouts boxing theory? He has done a series of vids discrediting vids by you and other youtube trainers, his channel is great but I would love your input on a vid he did about one of your vids x

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Hello Mark, I hope you are well. Yes, someone sent me that a while ago. That kid's a boxing fan who has now decided he can coach. Never boxed. Never been coached and definitely never coached anyone. Marvin Cook and Anthony, maybe 40 years each as competitors and coaches. Myself about the same, but this scruffy kid with no background other than watching fights is better placed? No, trying to be controversial for attention on YT. I like watching war documentaries, doesn't come close to enabling me to teach soldiers how to solider :-) Keep safe and well mate.

@ninjashogun 2 жыл бұрын

My peekaboo style is totally cracked out... U GOTTA SLIP WITH BOTH LEGS AND WAIST - u gotta square with the opponent and be able to change back to stance. People saying u gotta be square no u gotta be able to get in and out of your foot position go square and go back to regular stance u gotta keep your back heel up and you gotta use that hip snap for SLIP and pivot... if u just practice an endless SLIP with a hook over and over like a Twitter or whrirlwind your peekaboo will be good. U gotta be able to SLIP and use the momentum for skip to transfer into a punch than absorb that movement back into a SLIP.... think of a whirlwind or a Twitter... the movement must be fluid and not stoppy or stiff... like water flowing down a drain.. tyson had a good peekaboo. Probably one of the best. Tyson switches from regular stance square and south paw over and over and over just look at how he uses the change of feet position to launch incredible punches using the momentum like a ball rolling down the hill.

@iron-zo4ew Жыл бұрын

Is peekaboo good in street fighting?

@hijodecally Жыл бұрын

Is peek a boo good for tall people?

@SwissCheese112 2 жыл бұрын

I mean any style is adapted to the individual because just like in life individuals are all different, so they will fight differently regardless of the style.

@johnwhitedud8024 3 жыл бұрын

Good video man tell them casuals how it is

@Brucelee-pv6uf 2 жыл бұрын

I dont like people who comment like that 😖 U can comment and ssay ur opinion in humble respectable way 90 sec was short to explain everything I really love u and what u doing ❤

@nusaniwe Жыл бұрын

Fran, you make great videos which I've learned from a lot. That said, all of the things you say about peekaboo don't make any sense. The techniques only work in a certain context, and the context only makes sense when the right techniques are applied. That doesn't mean you should have a tunnel vision, but it's just important to understand the mechanics which peekaboo os based on which make it work. Your comments make it seem you don't understand the latter.

@jessenorgrove1702 Жыл бұрын

Peekaboo style can be used by short and tall, you have to adjust to what your height is.Thats what people aren’t looking at.If your above Mike Tyson’s height your peekaboo style will be different.

@themartialartist1929 3 жыл бұрын

I love Fran Sands

@hoop6988 2 жыл бұрын

Those side bends to the waist might be a reason why Mike had spinal problems.

@MarkWhippy Жыл бұрын

It’s from when he used to roll the top of his head on the floor to strengthen his neck.

@stevem1467 7 ай бұрын

So many beginners are trying to copy Tyson and mayweather these days stick to the basic amateur stuff these guys were one in a million

@Matteo-ks6fn 3 жыл бұрын

Go figure how ignorant i am, for i liked legs movement so much i figured this style would work even for the tall short round i am. Thought not being a target was good for not being hit by too many salvos even by a shortened guy...

@danrolli3576 9 ай бұрын

Do you one on the cross defense. Philly shell people don’t remember Georgie Benton

@rondocombatgems3949 2 жыл бұрын

The reason Tyson squared his stance when he got close was for maximum leverage he was taught to throw punches with bad intentions to get his whole body into every punch look at his uppercuts devastating

@Migles91 2 жыл бұрын

Yes I tried a strict style and and it made be a good at it but no matter what it limits u no😉

@coolboy_studio Жыл бұрын

Does Peek-A-Book harm back spine?

@bigjay24910 Ай бұрын

Like my coach says. “Stick to what you can learn from a coach”. There’s nobody in the UK that teaches peekaboo or the Philly shell for that matter. You can watch all the videos you want but if you don’t have someone observing and correcting technique it becomes sloppy.

@Andrew-gj6gf 3 жыл бұрын

Hey frans, teddy atlas actually made a series for the peek-a-boo on dynamic striking selling the techniques from cus fairly affordable and worth it to end all these peek-a-boo experts.

@myboxingcoach 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, noticed that, will check it out...top coach Teddy Atlas. Thanks Andrew 👍