Ha ha! :)

You could modify the Keep on the Motte to be some sort of medieval flak tower.

actually, they had archers and ballistas

@@florinaschilean6143 the ballista would do damage but the dragon would target them if it were intelligent and the archers would be nearly useless, nearly. If they could find a weak spot in the dragons scales then they would be effectful but if they can't, they might as well be throwing pebbles.

@@jesusismy...3498 well, we all know that the best defense against a dragon would be a knight jumping from a gryphon, killing the dragonrider and cutting the dragon's neck afterwards, but i was talking only about fixed defense

Seems rather tight. You've got your lord, the garrison... Sure, you could fit a couple of slaves in there, but that's not much of a rebellion is it (unless it's your garrison but that seems unlikely). A rebellion you're thinking of would have been raids by groups of people from the OUTSIDE and in that case, just like Shad said; storm the bailey, grab the motte, done. Personally, I have a much easier time imagining an M&B as a farm in an early agricultural era, designed to keep everything in, everything else out and maybe fend off some random raiders, rather than a military outpost of a foreign occupying force. In the case of a farm in a barely settled region you mostly watch over your property - and since there's not a lot of you, it makes sense to have everything in one spot, easily monitored by a single from your house, rather than all around you.

@@smffofts there is the risk of treason. A servant might open the gate for threats from outside. With motte that risk can be protected against.

@@pekkamakela2566 A servant can also sneak into the masters' quarters at night and murder them in their sleep and they can do that inside a stone castle as well. I would argue that if anything, an M&B construction encourages a final "peaceful" resolution for raids; should the raiders break in, you go to the motte. Whatever you've got up there is probably not worth the hassle of another attack and there's enough of a consolation prize in the bailey (cattle and the like, most of what you own really). They loot, leave and you go and rebuild. On the other hand, every warrior/settler culture I'm aware of had built completely different structures, from the Roman daily camp to wooden keeps in colonial times. Heck, didn't the Normans themselves build completely standard stone castles when they did so?

I thought Motte and Bailey castles were an Anglo-Saxon style of castle and died out after the Normans took over.

agree ,the lord didn't want to be around the peasants,

A basket with machicolations.

Then the eggs can fight off other eggs who breach the first basket, brilliant!

@Dragon50275 then they start to dress in skirts and speak aussie

.. But what if the baskets have handles on top, lol.

@@AlphaOmegaXIII it's a metaphor stupid

Andrew Jackson yep the saxons did launch multiple rebellions against the Normans which Is one of the reason that the motte and Bailey was built as it was an easy way to defend an area and they were relatively quickly built especially compared to stone castles in France at the time

Untrue, this point was addressed in the video. Proper castles with the keep inside the main castle walls are better defended against potential threats within the bailey, as you can more easily attack the bailey with arrows.

@@ParaSpite I agree with you, but I can also see how if I were invading England I would FEEL safer further away from my new, resentful subjects, even if that wasn't reality. It may be that some Norman lords felt safe being further away from their subjects, even if their advisors told them otherwise. After all, who's going to argue with a lord?

@@ParaSpite Obviously motte & bailey tech was good enough to withstand native attacks & establish stable dominance over England, until they could upgrade to stone, and cut back on the number of castles required.

This is is my second time watching this video after a year or so and I finally realized that logical conclusion too. It is very much a structure to oppress and subjugate the town from the separated and fortified castle. Yes it probably could be a workable overall defense against and outside group, but it is mainly to overlook and subjugate the town populace. A sort of pop culture glance at this concept is William Wallace's village in the movie Braveheart.

Yeah, they were designed to be built quickly so the design flaws with them isn't that strange.

@@bengale9977 Exactly. And with time and experience they change to help remove the flaws. Like moving the Keep inside the main walls and improving the gatehouse

@@vectorbrony3473 kinda a roman esq conquest. In the way ceasar would build forts and even encircle and entire city with a wall during his conquests of gaul

Can't trust the saxon peasant shoeing the horse in the stable. Motte & Bailey is the design I would pick if everyone I needed to hire would slit my throat if they had a chance.

Exactly, and if intimidation doesn't work... murder most of them. The harrowing of the north was an atrocity that doesn't get enough attention.

i thought everyone knew stone was invented in 1857 by abraham lincoln

all over the world the most ancient structure are the biggest and most advanced almost without exception on every continent that I know of.. Except maybe north america. From giza to the ones in peru to stonehenge to ankor watt I'm not a great speller. Maybe not always the largest but the size of the stones and the high tecch way they are put together amazing. But your not supposed to know this.. You might figure out there was a worldwide flood when the fountains of the deep broke open and the firmament collapsed. That the ancient world was just like the modern just different tech paths. Like that device from greece is just the simplest well know one. But its all over in reality.

Uranium existed back then too. But its rather obvious in context that hes referring to the technology that revolves around working with it.

What a moronic comment

Love how your comment has more likes than shads

But did you stop to consider... what about Drag- oh wait, that's the whole purpose of the book. :o

Are you hyperactive? Mr. minister, youtuber, writer and swordfighter guy.

Where can a person go to find a list of all of your published works?

I am going to get this book. I am going to write my own book. There will be a dragon in it. And I will use the information in this book to have my heroes realistically kill it.

I'll take 10!

Great answer. You can't pile the earth in the middle because that's where you're camping.

GREAT ADV!CE!!! YOU'RE MASTER!!!

Ah man u beat me to it by several hours. Haha.

Dapper Daddy's Haberdashery Early bird catches the castle my dude

Not enough murder ‘oles or barbicans!

Machiloations aren't that common in castles... someone has to say it...

@@HertzRico lies, foul lies!

OK, I must self-correct, motte-and-bailey WERE common for a time amongst lower nobility, and would just be called Motte or Hausberg in German. I also dug up the english translations for Hoehenburg, it is just hill castle. With the hilltop castle or even rock castle being the most defensible variant, but rarely built, especially for the problem of well construction. The most common type was the spur castle, as it was almost as defensible as the hilltop castle, but much easier to provide with water, as it was lower in elevation. Ridge castles are a variant, that is interesting, as they were often build at least in pairs to help defend each other. And finally hillside castles, which were hard to defend, but easy to provide with water. A lot of them can be found as toll collection sites along important waterways like the Rhine.

Stefan, What you say ist only partly correct. The northern parts of Germany are Part of a vast Plains area stretching out from the Netherlands into Poland. ("Norddeutsche Tiefebene") In these areas there are practically no elevations high enough for effektive Defender structures. But there are lots of bogs, fenns, marches and swampy riversides. Typical castles in these Region were placed where the swampy surroundings could defend them, most often on dry sandy hillnoses in the corner of two rivers meeting. The castles themselves used earth walls and palisades as well as trenches that completed and multiplied the Perimeter as necessary. Central structures could be, but did Not necessarily have to, Ring walls, this Kind of Castle you will also find with The Danes (Trelleborg etc) or slavic placed (f.e. Grossraden). The Motte and Bailey ist a Standartised Form of These Castle that seems to derive from The Western parts of The great northern Plains, Maybe influenced by frisian fortification types - they placed their whole settlements on artificial hills on Islands, in marches and in coastal areas that were Prone to flooding duringg Storm or even high tide. EDIT: ah, you found It out by yourself in The meantime. Just know that those castles we're Not only a Thing of lower nobility in The north. Before brickwork came into extensive use in The 11th/12th century, stones for buildings were extremely rare to come by in that areas. The danish castles I mention were even royal. (Harald Blaatand)

If you go further east the classic motte and baily design is rare, hill forts with or without central tower inside are more prominent and they usually look like an Audi logo with interlocked rings more like those later castles he's shown. And as in Germany they were most often built in swampy areas.

@@stefanb6539 actually Höhenburg is more correctly translated with "Castle on heights" or elevated castle. Hill is Hügel in German. With Höhe being just height, so the castle type being elevated just a few meters up to being on a proper mountain. Sorry, as native german I kinda get freaked out by those small things ^^

@@18947ful "Höhenburg" is foremost an archeological/architectural term, and the equivalent term in english happens to be "hill castle". Your attempts at etymology don't matter, as the correct translation of a scientific term is determined by the actual use in the corresponding scientific communities. So, check twice, before you freak out.

Then add a murder hole to the basket.

'Put all your eggs in one basket and REALLY watch that basket!'

Put all of your eggs in a basket ... That has meticulations!!!!!!

Shad thinking: put your eggs in a wooden basket in the straw basket so that when the straw burns we have cooked eggs. By the way towers flank walls horizontally so we don't need stinking machiculations unless it's a gate.

​@@80krauser These castles really look as if the Lord did not trust his people and he had to separate from them for security or keep an eye on them. The more I think about it the more I think that these castles are to defend against an assault from the outside, just as against the attack of their own people.

I like how it was a video about the EXACT type of castle I was thinking of for my own story.

Just make sure you add lots of machiculations.

And don't forget the Deus Ex Machina at the end. OH! *whispering * And a love triangle

@@Greideren Terrible Writing Advice is that you?

They need to be cooked in wildfire.

I can imagine a video on how to accommodate a dragon

Conquer Dragon's Reach in Skyrim, it already come with an area to keep your pet dragon, hench it's name. 😁

Oof

CHURCHES! CHURCHES!

The counter to this is that there are many mottes that have stone castles built on them, perhaps these were later upgrades that could be done once the soil had settled.

@@shadiversity Sure, they didn't all have problems. Some are on natural hills and some hills were just made better. But if you know there's a chance you might have problems, are you going to risk it or ditch the man made hill entirely?

Also called a Fosse, or ditch as in the Roman roads the Fosse Way as it was a road with ditches either side...like all Roman Roads ...

Possibly the first iteration of a motte was the ditch, but you'd pile the excavated dirt inside the circle, to give the keep extra height. From there, the concept would've evolved to building an actual miniature hill inside. But still, if you wanted to get something up in as few days as possible, those simplest mottes would be the ones leaving the least archaeological evidence of all. In that scenario, it's likely motte & moat have a common origin. As Shad said, moats can be water filled, or dry. It was probably hard to keep water out of moats in England anyway.

It's on the list ^_^

But what about dragons?

@@casthelion416 What weapons would dragons use?

Would that allow them to keep a shield on both sides? 😉

Shadiversity OMG HE RESPONDED GUYS!! Is finally happening!!!! :O

Only if you call him, *Tad Cooper!!*

Be shure to not name him alduin slyer of worlds.

@@catwithinternet7111 isn't his title, Eater of worlds?

I prefer black cats or direwolves.

Not unless you are a jarl.

There is no requirement got documentaries to be accurate

@@jasonskeans3327 Sadly

Line the walls with ballista and enjoy your fresh dragon meat

@@vonfaustien3957 HMMMMMMM

Robert the Bruce took most of the castles he slighted by sneaking in.

Moats make it harder to get siege towers up to the walls, but they also make tunneling/undermining more difficult. Many forts throughout history were defeated by paying someone inside to open the gates.

Oh my God. Another WOT fan? Welcome my brother. May the dragon ride once more upon the winds of time.

The wind was not the beginning, but it was a beginning...

A massive solar storm could send the world there for a while.

Exactly. Keeps would have got more luxurious if you suppressed resistance factions & made a go of being a Norman Baron. I think Shad covers that sort of transition elsewhere, discussing rooms in keeps, evolution of castles, castle v palace etc.

Probably to protect the lord of the keep, more than the castle itself.

@Aeon Underhand Joking? I hope so. The Romans came to Britain, stayed for a while, and left several hundred years before the Norman conquest and the construction of the first M&B castle.

Some of Shad's arguments are flawed because in most cases the Motte was not as distinct from the bailey as the example given. However, to answer your question, I'll use Scholagladiatoria's Matt Easton's favourite word: context. M&B castles were used because they were quick and easy to build and were easily defended against the likely enemy immediately after the Norman conquest. The Normans defeated King Harold. His high ranking followers were either killed in battle, or, as was common in those days, swore fealty to the new king. The common people probably cared little for who was in charge of them as long as they were left to get on with their lives and feed their families. Who, therefore, was going to attack the castle? Possibly a raid from a hostile neighbouring lord (the Normans were a warlike lot), or a few disaffected locals led by a Saxon warrior who had not sworn fealty. Raids, small rebellions, and guerrillas were the context, rather than massive organised armies. The new castle had to bee quick to build, look the part as a symbol of authority, and be strong enough to deter or resist the expected level of threat. As the new order settled, the early M&B castles were developed and improved, incorporating stronger and more complex defences.

The Bailey was the traditional germanic village/farm. Then they added the Motte to it

@Aeon Underhand Aha! That makes sense. :) Iron age hill forts came before the Romans. They were big fortified enclosures on top of hills. There is clear evidence of some of them being stormed and taken by the Romans. After the Romans, in what we used to call the dark ages, some of the old hill forts were recolonised with some repairs to the defences. They also made new, much smaller, hill forts for a while. The dark ages blended into the early mediaeval. In England, a key turning point was the year of the 3 battles (1066) and the Norman invasion. The normans built the M&B castles.

you can't effectively burn wood that's been treated, and you have to assume if you're going to make a defensive structure at least eliminate it's biggest weakness, there probably were cases of wooden fortifications being burnt down, but more permanent (expected to last many years) like castles would certainly have been treated.

Wood is not as easy to burn as Hollywood would have you believe.

Try? Yes, but the archers/defenders probably would give you trouble while you try to stack wood next to the wall timbers.

Who let the heretic in?

Horus was a fine commander, but that's all there to it. In other news, emperor is still a dick.

Ahh, I see your a man of culture as well

First you ram vertical spiked poles in regular distances in the ground of your bailey. At least that will prevent dragons from landing there.