No it doesn't. Listen to John McArthur's sermon on Infant Baptist for a very clear, Biblical refutation of the Anglican, Lutheran and Presbyterian doctrine of Covenant Theology.

@@deniseoates5358 we are just going to have to disagree.

@@deniseoates5358 dispensationalism is a modern invention by John Nelson Darby around 1830.. it isn't anywhere in church history before that. John Nelson Darby became a pope-like dictator questioning salvation of anyone who disagreed with him. Then Scofield had study notes that went along the same line and was produced as a study bible. Scofield left his wife and children without supporting them and gave himself the title "dr." without any education. There is no view in the historical church of the church being a parenthesis in history. If you want to learn more, seek out Gary Demar. Mr. Macarthur is most likely incorrect in his view.

I agree

@@Golfinthefamily I really like MacArthur, but I believe RC Sproul has one up on him here. I think what scares most believers' baptism Christians, is that they think that we all believe that just because we baptize our children it means then they are now saved (like the catholics believe) or will DEFINTITELY be saved.......It's the parents faithfully showing that they will raise their family in the fear and admonition of our LORD......etc..... Since baptism is ultimately a sign what harm is it to people who only believe in 10 year old's being baptized? If that kid when he grows up eventually believes different than his parents, he or she can get rebaptized in their new belief....

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Yes! So much!!

yeah that would be great and all, if the Bible actually talked about infant baptism

@@guillermodominguez8643 Scripture is very plain on God’s promises in the sacraments. Why would you withhold them from your children? Baptism buries and raises you with Christ. Romans 6:4 Baptism is of water and spirit. John 3:5 Baptism is the washing of regeneration. Titus 3:5 Baptism is the circumcision of Christ. Colossians 2:12 Baptism clothes you with Christ. Galatians 3:27 Baptism is the washing of water with the word. Ephesians 5:26 Baptism washes away your sins. Acts 22:16 Baptism now saves you. 1 Peter 3:21 I encourage you to read church history and learn what Christs bride has believed for 2000 years. Blessings.

Old Covenant Baptism vs. New Covenant Baptism (water vs. Spirit) Water baptism was a part of the Old Covenant system of ritual washing. The Old Covenant priests had to wash before beginning their service in the temple. (Ex. 30:17-30) When Christ was water baptized by His cousin John in the Jordan River, He was under the Old Covenant system. He also only ate certain foods, and wore certain clothes, as prescribed by the 613 Old Covenant laws. Christ was water baptized by John and then the Holy Spirit came from heaven. The order is reversed in the New Covenant. A person receives the Holy Spirit upon conversion, and then believers often declare their conversion to their friends and family through a water baptism ceremony. Which baptism makes you a member of Christ’s Church? The New Covenant conversion process is described below. (Born-again) Eph 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, (A person must “hear” the Gospel, and “believe” the Gospel, and will then be “sealed” with the Holy Spirit.) Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. (See Jer. 31:34 for the New Covenant promise, and 1 John 2:27 for the fulfillment) ============ Which baptism is a part of the salvation process, based on what the Bible says? What did Peter say below? Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning. Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water when they read the word "baptize" in the text. Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage? Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (See 1 Cor. 12:13) “baptize” KJV Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Water or Holy Spirit?, See Eph. 1-13.) Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire: Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. (See Eph. 4:1-5) Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (Old Covenant ----> New Covenant) How many people have been saved by the Old Covenant water baptism of John the Baptist? Who did John the Baptist say is the greatest Baptist that ever lived in Luke 3:16? What kind of New Covenant baptism comes from Christ? Hebrews 9:10 Old Covenant vs. New Covenant (CSB) They are physical regulations and only deal with food, drink, and various washings imposed until the time of the new order. (ESV) but deal only with food and drink and various washings, regulations for the body imposed until the time of reformation. (ESV+) but deal only with R5food and drink and R6various washings, regulations for the body imposed until the time of reformation. (Geneva) Which only stood in meates and drinkes, and diuers washings, and carnal rites, which were inioyned, vntill the time of reformation. (GW) These gifts and sacrifices were meant to be food, drink, and items used in various purification ceremonies. These ceremonies were required for the body until God would establish a new way of doing things. (KJV) Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (KJV+) Which stood onlyG3440 inG1909 meatsG1033 andG2532 drinks,G4188 andG2532 diversG1313 washings,G909 andG2532 carnalG4561 ordinances,G1345 imposedG1945 on them untilG3360 the timeG2540 of reformation.G1357 (NKJV) concerned only with foods and drinks, various washings, and fleshly ordinances imposed until the time of reformation. (NLT) For that old system deals only with food and drink and various cleansing ceremonies-physical regulations that were in effect only until a better system could be established. (YLT) only in victuals, and drinks, and different baptisms, and fleshly ordinances-till the time of reformation imposed upon them . ================================================================================================== New Covenant Whole Gospel: Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. Watch the KZfaq videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.

Reading the responses, it's clear who failed to listen to the sermon with an open Bible and traditions checked at the door. Just saying.

My son just turned two, my daughter just turned one. I had not given this much thought until lately. My priors always assumed that you got baptized when you were ready. That has changed. I am convinced of the need to baptize your children.

I’m going through those now. 16 one hour sermons….

Where were the baptists in church history ??

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All Paedo..

Which version are you reading from? My bible says “takes away”, not lifts up.

"Are they considered rejected pagans" - actually, yes, unsaved children are pagans, yet are trained disciples by their parents albeit yet unsaved children. "alienated from the people of God or as our Lord said, "of such is the kingdom of heaven" - Alienated in the sense they're not in The Church, the Bride of Christ, alienated in the sense they are unsaved sinners who need to be redeemed - "as such is the kingdom of heaven" has to do with how one approaches God, in that you have to approach God with a humble heart knowing that the sinner has a need. " Belonging to God's Church and beloved people?" - no, unsaved children are not of God's church and God's beloved people. "Is a child born in a Christian home no different from those born in a Muslim home?" - both babies, regardless if born of Christian parents or Muslim, are the same - they are sinners who need to be saved. "They are welcome in the Church" - unsaved children may be treated kindly, and welcomed in that sense, but are not "welcomed in the Church" in the sense they are received as true born again believers in Christ.

​@@soulosxpiotov7280 1 Cor 7:14 says children are holy, if one of the parents are a believer.

@@jules47127 Holy as in as God is holy, equally holy as God? Or...."holy" as in set apart, distinct, separate, which is what holy means, as a result of one of the parents being saved in Christ, not because of water baptism but because of the saved parent?

Hi, you may be interested in this short book explaining that very question in detail: "To a Thousand Generations" canonpress.com/products/to-a-thousand-generations

@@CanonPress Does this book go into the replacement of sacraments? (i.e. circumcision to baptism, Passover to Lord's supper) These are signs and seals of the covenant of grace (vs. Works) I came to understand infant baptism this way, as signs but not the reality. WCF 27.5 and 28.1. I was hoping to hear more about this in this talk but Doug didn't quite get to that aspect.

@@bfrankwthme Indeed

@Joseph Bruce oh OK, thanks for responding, perhaps I assumed that infant baptism usually entails holding to baptismal regeneration. I hold to believers baptism though.

You hold to "professors" baptism

Tares and wheat...

@bigtobacco1098 what does Christ mediate to his covenant people?

@@David-cw7pd grace... they are within the visible covenant...

@@David-cw7pd is everyone baptized regenerate ??

@bigtobacco1098 if Christ mediates grace to all of his covenant people, why are some of his covenant people lost in the end?

The elect and regenerate can't be broken off the tree.

@@CanonPress Okay. Went back and listened again. The interpretation offered is this, "Those being broken off and cut out are the unregenerate members of the New Covenant." They had some kind of real organic connection to Christ but in their unbelief they are cut off like the 2/3rds of the Jews by 70 A.D. I hope I am closer to what Doug Wilson said. Am I?

@@michaeldirrim2361 Yes. Being in the covenant does not equal regenerated heart.

Nor does baptism... we don't baptize on regeneration but on profession...

Thank you for this, I agree with you as I can see this too in scriptures, but the problem is that I'm a bit confused by other passages too. For example, is Acts 22:16 not talking about water baptism? I have been baptised as a baby, and now I'm not too sure on what to do. On one side I would like to get baptised again, on the other the Word says there is one Lord, one faith and one baptism (I believe is talking about spiritual baptism, but I am so confused) 😢

@@ilarial.4814 The word "water" is not in Acts 22:16. However, Ananias was trying to keep the Old Covenant, according to the text. Many of the Christians of Hebrew ancestry could not let go of the Old Covenant system they had been trying to keep their whole lives. In Acts chapter 21 James goaded Paul into going to the temple and performing an Old Covenant ritual. It ended with Paul causing a riot at the temple, and the Romans coming down from Fort Antonia to rescue Paul. The final word on baptism is found in Eph. 4:1-5 and Hebrews 9:10. Act 22:12 And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt there, Act 22:13 Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him. Act 22:14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth. Act 22:15 For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard. Act 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

I do, wrong an innovative as they are

There is also not one example of a woman receiving Communion yet we know by implication that it must be biblical. You're wrong that children cannot have faith. Our Lord mentioned "little ones who believe in Me" and speaks of infants literally praising God in Matthew 21. There are numerous other examples of regenerated infants. By your standard, these little ones would be proper recipients of baptism.

"I personally love by scripture alone" - your baptism position is, by necessity, your interpretation that you read into the text

All of us believe in believer's baptism. Scripture only shows first generation believers being baptized. Scripture doesn't speak directly about what to do with the CHILDREN of baptized believers (second generation). Therefore both of us are required to demonstrate our practice from Scripture. The question is really about the covenant status of children. Are they considered rejected, alienated from the people of God or as our Lord said, "of such is the kingdom of heaven"?

@@axie_grinder9676 Wholeheartedly agree, friend! The original poster (above's) baptismal position is, by necessity, an interpretation

@@Mic1904 Thank you brother! I'm a former Reformed Baptist by the way. I once said to a friend at seminary that infant baptism is an "unbiblical tradition" but flip flopped due to SCRIPTURE ALONE ;-)

OIKOS covenant baptism was the standard for all new testament baptism

@@bigtobacco1098 Believer's baptism is every case without exception: "believed and was baptized, him and all his house". Also, individuals (such as the Ethiopian eunuch) were baptized with zero reference to OIKOS covenant baptism, so I'm not sure if "standard" is accurate, but there certainly is something to be learned from the instances when whole households came to belief, yet I don't see anything that indicates we should baptize anyone before they confess belief. If there is an argument for it, it is not the one which Doug tried to cobble together here. Your argument is a bit better, and I've heard Doug make a more complete presentation of it, but it also fails to validate the doctrine. By my own human wisdom, I would think to institute pedobaptism, but I have, by God's grace, died to my own human wisdom so that I may live in Christ. I need a clear Biblical doctrine which institutes preconfessional baptisms. Perhaps the keys given to Peter can somehow be applied to make the case, but that has to be done in a way which does not also make an argument for the Papacy.

@@NicholasproclaimerofMessiah AND, not THEN....

@NicholasproclaimerofMessiah as well Acts 2:38 is a direct repetition of the OIKOS format.... for me to believe that it means something else I'll need an explanation from scripture or tradition

​@@bigtobacco1098 Thank you for the engaging discussion. When (in John 13 v7) Lord Jesus told Peter that he would come to understand the meaning of the footwashing through the footwashing itself, did Peter then insist it be explained to him in explicit words? Well, (in v8) Peter was momentarily a bit stubborn, but then (in v9) he came to understand apart from any explicit explanation. The sacraments of baptism and communion have deep spiritual meaning which cannot be explicitly conveyed in words, but how to outwardly practice the rituals can easily be put into clear instruction. Salvation is apart from the rituals, but not apart from the reality shadowed therein; the thief on the cross was not baptized with an earthly baptism upon his conversion, and yet in his conversion he was baptized spiritually unto the remission of sins. Likewise, the promise of salvation to children faithfully parented is separate from the matter of earthly ritual. The texts which you cite relate to our topic in a framework of typology rather than technical commandment, in that these texts do not specify whether any preconfessional infants had come to believe and be baptized, such that they do not make a case for an earthly ritual of preconfessional baptism, but they do make a case for the salvific promise which such a baptism would point to. What they do specifically include, is that those who were baptized also believed; so it looks to me like the necessity of belief is specifically accounted for, just as the promise that children faithfully parented will be saved also seems to be specifically accounted for. Hopefully that conveys my hermeneutical foundation without me having written an essay on the topic, and I hope it clarifies why I think the Scriptures compel the one application against the other. Perhaps you'll consider it, and please offer any further clarity on your perspective which you would like me to consider.

That's not is being said, listen to the general Presbyterian view from a Baptist view, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ntiWqtCbvq2Rk5c.htmlsi=-IgbexuuMHaGqcvK

He definitely didn't say anyone was saved because of the faith of their parents. In fact, he said believing that was a huge peril of both the old and new covenant. Did you listen to whole video or are you just arguing in bad faith?

@@gsp8489 Presbyterians believe that Their children are automatically under the covenant and should be baptized even as babies.

What does it mean as a sign, seal, or symbol?