The Prusa SL1S redefines SPEED!

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Made with Layers (Thomas Sanladerer)

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The Prusa SL1S is the updated version of their excellent SL1 resin printer - and it's an even better package. But can it still compete in the 2021 landscape?
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@3DPrintingNerd 2 жыл бұрын

Easily one of the best thumbnails ever. EVER.

@xj_overlander 2 жыл бұрын

Right? It looked like a full on meme shitpost. I love it so much

@ericBcreator 2 жыл бұрын

With a little help from Maxell ;-)

@reallyiffy 2 жыл бұрын

Made me watch tell me by p ditty

@3DMusketeers 2 жыл бұрын

Have to agree! but this is a quiet printer and the thumbnail was based off of LOUD speakers. Still awesome, especially with the top blowing off the mars 3!

@dotJata 2 жыл бұрын

@@xj_overlander it's a parody of the maxell hifi advertisment.

@seedmoreuser 2 жыл бұрын

The thumbnail is a masterpiece. Great reference!

@retroluminico 2 жыл бұрын

Now you have to answer which one you prefer: 60 or 90 minutes magnetic tape cassettes? There’s no way you get that reference in the thumbnail unless you lived in the pre-cd era It is a masterpiece

@seedmoreuser 2 жыл бұрын

@@retroluminico neither... I prefer my tapes high fidelity!

@sagichnicht6748 2 жыл бұрын

Am I the only one who thinks it is absolutely ridiculous that we have to censore famous art just to please some super prudent American corporation? No surprise some Viennese museums pulled off a stunt by opening an Only Fans account for those statues and paintings.

@RicoElectrico 2 жыл бұрын

Get this: We were moving a few month ago. In the piles of stuff there was a Polish lifestyle magazine "Sukces" from 1992, just as capitalism entered Poland. They appear to have had a photoshoot in each issue. There was a topless woman in a garden, in kind of glamour, kind of suggestive poses. I guess nobody gave a damn back then and while Poland was infatuated with American lifestyle, certainly puritanism has not been imported yet. XD

@kylek.3689 2 жыл бұрын

That puritanical tyranny extends beyond just KZfaq, and extensively into open source software as well.

@charlesfe 2 жыл бұрын

The “resin vat too full” error occurs if you fill the vat while the machine is powered off - the platform for the vat skews slightly forward when it is unpowered. I figured this out through trial and error, I had thought a sensor was bad at first.

@darkracer1252 2 жыл бұрын

it's normal for such things to happen. same thing happens in reverse with our espresso machine. if you empty out one of the containers while it's powered off it doesn't know you did so.

@marsgizmo 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent review and great printer, I’m also looking forward to get one, especially for the tilting VAT.

@viesturssilins858 Жыл бұрын

VAT is not an acronym in this case.

@spamcan9208 2 жыл бұрын

That thumbnail made me feel old lol. I remember that ad from my childhood. How nostalgic lol.

@VincentVeak 2 жыл бұрын

I love how you cover resin printers as well as FDM and general engineering tech and principles. IMO it's refreshing content while still being in line with the channel and is more entertaining and engaging than the boring FDM only channels

@MadeWithLayers 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm hoping to take the channel more into a diverse direction in the future, too - keeps me interested in the topics and (hopefully) provides a wider range of inspiration for everyone watching, too!

@TROPtastic 2 жыл бұрын

@@MadeWithLayers I'm excited to see your production value and presentation style applied to other (tech or tech adjacent?) topics :)

@christophbeer3417 2 жыл бұрын

Just installed the upgrade yesterday, the speed is amazing!

@StormBurnX 2 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to see third party kits that are compatible with the upgrade kit, because as you mentioned the board and frame and enclosure are objectively not worth 1600 euro

@3DMusketeers 2 жыл бұрын

Love this look at the printer Tom, nice work! The intro is amazing! I was surprised to see that this is the priciest printer you have though, figured there must be something more expensive in there! As always, great shots, editing, and audio. Of course, the video is great too! Keep it up!

@NmEter2 2 жыл бұрын

Your thumbnail recreation of the famus image "Blown-away Man" by Steven Steigman is amazing :)

@BrianHamilton01 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed on all your points … but still just love that they did what ever needed to get a minimum cost upgrade path. Now if they did a large format printer I could completely transfer over to Prussia products only ;)

@jjdawg9918 2 жыл бұрын

Really amazing review! And still I love my old Maxell tapes.

@Repkord 2 жыл бұрын

Well done Tom. As always, enjoy the time, detail, objectivity, and thoughtfulness you put into your reviews. The snake head innuendos are really just a bonus on top of all that. 🤣

@mahdiyussuf9804 2 жыл бұрын

Ditto on the thumbnail being brilliant. Great content!

@AllDayBikes 2 жыл бұрын

I love that Maxell reference hahah

@TheJushirou 2 жыл бұрын

just bought upgrade kit for mine! thx for a review

@ShypaxGaming 2 жыл бұрын

Cool that you are using the Statens museum for kunst collection, theres so much fantastic stuff in there in ultra high res - im happy my country is providing stuff like this for free :)

@electronicsandewastescrapp7384 2 жыл бұрын

Those extra large SLA printers that unky jesse reviewed would definitely benefit from that vat tilt mechanism. I'm curious why prusa didn't just add a slope to the one side of the vat to keep it from spilling with the same amount of resin.

@nunucello 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Thomas !!!!!! Amazing thumbnail too !!!!

@HairyTheCandyMan 2 жыл бұрын

Bro, I really enjoyed the cover picture of the video. Nostalgic.

@RomanoPRODUCTION 2 жыл бұрын

I won't miss a video from Thomas because he is the best DIY hairdresser I know. Also he is explaining with care.

@SpencerSlaughter426 2 жыл бұрын

Dude, thumbnail is flawless

@calebland6246 2 жыл бұрын

I love the thumbnail!

@AlbertoNoys 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, awesome thumbnail! Great job

@victorp.8686 2 жыл бұрын

Love to see the Prusa SL1S and Anycubic Photon Mono X side by side comparison.

@pibyte 2 жыл бұрын

A new Sanladerer video! YEAH!

@Gnat-Swarm 2 жыл бұрын

I’m liking and commenting for that thumbnail ALONE!

@johnallen8094 3 ай бұрын

I upgraded because i wore out the led i had trouble with getting the tilt mechanism level and was having print adhesion problems on larger builds on the old smaller platform once tightened I managed to get it level and it served me well for the last two years. The upgrade was a walk in the park until I created a slight abrasion on the ribbon of the LCD screen and had to order a new one the print speed is phenomenal should have done it sooner but I have to agree it’s a tight work area and I rushed to get it up and running and it hit me in the wallet.

@JJSnel-uh3by 2 жыл бұрын

I have a strong feeling that I, NEED IT!!

@UncleJessy 2 жыл бұрын

Man oh man really tempted to pick one of these up and this video is certainly not helping haha

@hellterminator 2 жыл бұрын

Looking at the price solves that problem for me very effectively.

@crussty3d 2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't have to worry as much about those power outages- your prints would be done!

@MakerHacks 2 жыл бұрын

I ordered the upgrade as soon as I saw it was a thing but now I am wondering if I should hold off installing :D The speed increase is such a big draw though. Nnnnnnnnnnnnng confuse! 🤔

@MakerHacks 2 жыл бұрын

@@crussty3d or would be well within UPS battery storage limits :)

@louisclarke7300 2 жыл бұрын

@@hellterminator same

@charlesfe 2 жыл бұрын

I bought one of these at the start of the ChiTu board lock down. Having used it for a few weeks, I’d trade all of my printers for a second one. They are expensive, but wow. Just wow.

@OhHeyTrevorFlowers 2 жыл бұрын

That speed at this price point is wild!

@privat9605 2 жыл бұрын

Would be interested to see how it stacks up against a Phrozen Sonic Mini 4K or 8K

@speeddemon1774 2 жыл бұрын

I’d be interested in seeing your take on the Photon Ultra with the TI DLP system. Seems like a more powerful light engine that might work better with more “industrial” resins.

@JKC40 2 жыл бұрын

my take: too low resolution.

@Presbiter 2 жыл бұрын

@@JKC40 its dlp man...720p dlp is actually more detail than 4k monochrome lcd

@BH4x0r 2 жыл бұрын

@@Presbiter Not really..

@Presbiter 2 жыл бұрын

@@BH4x0r Of course it is. But to know that one must understand the technology. One very significant thing fe dlp does not produces shadows, lcd does. May be look up what that means in detail and learn something, just a suggestion^^

@BH4x0r 2 жыл бұрын

@@Presbiter I know DLP basically are tiny MEMS mirrors that will reflect or won't and that way can get better contrast than LCD, but it's still less than ideal as a 720p DLP chip is unable to produce as small details, if you get what i mean. if it was a 4K chip that'd be better.

@SianaGearz 2 жыл бұрын

It would be even faster if you could do continuous printing with a DLP projector and projecting down on a descending plate into the liquid... i wonder if that's coming back then?

@dennislink1300 Жыл бұрын

Thomas it's been a year plus since your SL1S review and a big year for 3D Resin printers. Any thoughts about a year end "round-up"> Is the SL1S still tops or has the 8K 10" LCD Mono screens pushed their way to the top? And how about your recommendations/thoughts for 2023? Where is this all going...you know in resin?

@3dtechnologies153 2 жыл бұрын

Would love to see a review on a photocentric printer.

@truetech4158 2 жыл бұрын

Haha, I like that cover photo. Reminds of the Bose speaker picture I have in the garage/area52.

@spamcan9208 2 жыл бұрын

I thought it was a Maxell ad?

@Holztransistor 2 жыл бұрын

@@spamcan9208 Yes, Maxell it was.

@SwingsnRoundAbouts 2 жыл бұрын

How does this compare to the 3D systems figure 4 standalone, that prints fast but at Aus $30,000 it’s expensive. They also claim their resins are UV stable after curing is this possible? Can you use 3D systems resins with this printer? Thanks for your help.

@JoelMPanchevre 2 жыл бұрын

Okay how do I get that material list to load all the siraya products on my prusa sl1s speed. I cant figure it out.

@gaellafond6367 2 жыл бұрын

1:30 You recently made a video about how you should do your disclaimer about reviewed products. I want to say, that was perfect. It flows well with the content

@Shadow__X 2 жыл бұрын

This NEEDS to get cheaper, it will be the next manufacturing revolution with that incredible amount of detail

@ZURAD 2 жыл бұрын

this sneeds

@RicoElectrico 2 жыл бұрын

Filament FDM is way cheaper and usually good enough. They complement each other, covering slightly different niches.

@ChrisHarmon1 2 жыл бұрын

I owned a Voxelab Proxima 6" and the prints from it were absolutely incredible even for a resin. I sold it and "upgraded" to a Elegoo Saturn which is great for more printing room but has issues the Voxelab did not. I would really like to compare the new Proxima 8.9 as it's likely similar hardware to the Saturn just later to market. Even more interesting is the Elegoo Jupiter. I had thought about joining the Jupiter's Kickstarter but it's clear other models with the same print area will release within a few months of the Jupiter and possibly be more polished. In the meantime I'm waiting for my formbot 2.4 kit to ship.

@zaprodk 2 жыл бұрын

I think the old vat vas a cast aluminum, bead blasten and milled on the mating surfaces, looking at the surface finish.

@spinnetti 2 жыл бұрын

Nice, but I just don't see a consumer business case for this over the Mars. Its not 6x better certainly

@stug77 2 жыл бұрын

I like the Maxell thumbnail. Good work.

@TheUallis 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review! It really goes into more depth than other reviews and shows why numbers on a page aren't the full story. Got an affiliate link for the SL1S + CW1S bundle?

@MadeWithLayers 2 жыл бұрын

I haven't put a specific link to the bundles, but you can just click through using the regular links.

@5Komma5 2 жыл бұрын

That may actually get me to purchase one of those dirty pigs. I don't really want to print with resin at home but the speed is impressive. The Mini or this one ... both would make a great addition to my MK3S.

@KT-pv3kl 2 жыл бұрын

save yourself the trouble and get an anycubic mono for 180$ same print volume , same print time 1800$ less markup.

@louissenn9897 2 жыл бұрын

Mine is on the way😁

@CdoGtheGreat 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent review. How would you rate the print detail of the sls1s vs the Mars 3 ?

@steven5810 2 жыл бұрын

why, at 5:14 with 4 items in the center screen, is the item to the right out of focus? It seems your camera was searching at that point. to bad the items seems well printed

@photelegy Жыл бұрын

So why don't you print them laying down when the duration only depends on the hight of the print? Only because of the finish and the needed supports?

@bigboy6704 2 жыл бұрын

I'm blown away by that thumbnail

@andreasstromberg 2 жыл бұрын

Use the parts for an dyi curing station?

@mikeyearwood 2 жыл бұрын

Why isn't it top down? Breaking off the bottom seems goofy, like doing the hokey-pokey.

@plaisthos 2 жыл бұрын

I also upgrade my devices by adding a sticker to them!

@francistaylor1822 2 жыл бұрын

Racing stripes are the way to go

@Holztransistor 2 жыл бұрын

@@francistaylor1822 But only combined with British racing green.

@kylebrake1806 2 жыл бұрын

I love your videos!

@leinadreign3510 2 жыл бұрын

I will get the upgrade, when my screen dies. Best replacement part ever! And since I have already build-your-own SL1 kit, Im not afraid of turning it apart! Amazing! So far Im really glad I have chosen the Prusa SL1 over all the cheap chinese brands! (Mainly because I didnt wanted to support china with my money). I guess I have now to print more, so my screen breaks faster!

@fiberop635 2 жыл бұрын

Even at half the price it would still be a premium price for the size it can print. Yeah its better but horrendously overpriced.

@KT-pv3kl 2 жыл бұрын

better than what? this printer is objectively worse than most 4k chinesium printers you can get for 500$

@fiberop635 2 жыл бұрын

@@KT-pv3kl im saying speed wise... trust me I think its insanly overpriced. You can get a phrozen sonic 8k is that price and well the size of prints that can be done or total number of items printed due to bed size notify the speed improvement if youre doing alot of little things. There isn't anything prusa I would ever buy since everything is sold at 3 to 4 times the price

@harjoat 2 жыл бұрын

Love the thumbnail 😝

@MMQsTacosConLimons Жыл бұрын

what is a good uv power % for the mono x for translucent resin?

@ZakLeek 2 жыл бұрын

This was a really god video, thanks Tom! 💙💜 Also, will you ever get any of the FormLabs SLA printers, I think they look really nice.

@MadeWithLayers 2 жыл бұрын

you're right, I´m planning to review their Form 3 Printer.

@sebsnest 2 жыл бұрын

-Hey Thomas, a while back you did the live upgrade to "S" level, and run into an issue at the end. What was the solution to your problem?- Never mind, it's mentioned in the video. Strangely I can't find the upgrade video any longer. Is it removed? Thx

@MadeWithLayers 2 жыл бұрын

KZfaq screwed up the video, so it's currently set to unlisted

@arthurmorgan8966 2 жыл бұрын

7:53 I didn’t think of that. Finally I’ve found someone with dirtier mind than mine.

@platin2148 2 жыл бұрын

Is the software also open source? That’s amazing. Sadly too tiny for me.

@Caddy666 2 жыл бұрын

so its faster, but if i wanted it for war hammer type figures (detailed, with intention to pain them), etc, how much worse/better is it than the 4k ones that everyone recommends?

@tomiesz 2 жыл бұрын

depends mainly on pixel density and how big you want them. Since a lot of the 4k printers also have a bigger buildplate than the sl1s (mainly thinking of elegoo saturn), you end up with pretty much the same pixel density (~500 ppi in both saturn and sl1s by my calculations)

@tomiesz 2 жыл бұрын

Something like the phrozen sonic mini would maybe translate to a better quality print (~700 ppi), but tbh, in my experience 500 ppi makes beautiful prints anyways. And paint helps cover up a lot of imperfections

@Agamemnon2 2 жыл бұрын

Warhammer minis are usually painted in complex, weathered, and intricate schemes of a dozen coats or more, so I there'd definitely be diminishing returns on additional pixel density.

@MakerHacks 2 жыл бұрын

I mainly do tabletop minis and greeblies and stuff on my resin printers and the main advantage here is speed. If, you are like me, I tend to send your Mars/Saturn prints over night, then there are minimal advantages. For me I ordered the upgrade for my SL1 because of daytime prototyping where the round trip time improvement is worth more than the upgrade costs. For when I am DMing an RPG I could definitely see me running off a quick piece of scatter or a BBG though knowing I can cut the print time down ... As someone said elsewhere, the resolution/rendering improvement is moot when you are 1) painting and 2) going for table ready rather than holding it an inch from your eyeball 😆

@MakerHacks 2 жыл бұрын

@@tomiesz I have happily played against FDM printed armies - it's all about your gaming crew really :)

@setaripantheon8801 2 жыл бұрын

I hope they make one with a bigger print area! Looks interesting but a bit expensive for the print area

@jordanelevons1685 2 жыл бұрын

How does it compare to a Form 2 or 3? Are they the benchmark at this price bracket?

@MadeWithLayers 2 жыл бұрын

I'll be getting a Form 3 for review soon!

@kspokermike1629 2 жыл бұрын

How many hours of run time before needing to change the carbon filter? And also, how hard is it to change/replace the carbon filter? Thanks. (Im still researching resin printers for my first buy).

@MadeWithLayers 2 жыл бұрын

Mine so far still does a great job of keeping the resin smell down. If I'd have to guess, I'd say it should last a couple hundred hours if printing easily. Swapping it is two screws on the back of the printer - takes less than 60 seconds to swap.

@kspokermike1629 2 жыл бұрын

@@MadeWithLayers Thanks so much for the response. I’ve had my MK3 for 3 years now and the printer is bulletproof. Works every time I fire it up. I was told by many when I purchased my MK3 that it was too expensive, but I’ll buy/take reliability anytime. Thanks again.

@AdmiralKodai 2 жыл бұрын

it might be fast... but shipping and getting it isn't. I ordered mine on August 21, 2021. And I'm still haven't gotten it. :(

@crosswindjones 2 жыл бұрын

Any improvement in the usability, smell, cleanup? I'd buy one of these too if it weren't for the mess.

@MadeWithLayers 2 жыл бұрын

SL1(S) has an activated charcoal filter for the smell, combined with the CW1 for washing and curing it's as good as it gets (for now)

@blacklanner5886 2 жыл бұрын

I'm completely new to 3d printing. Each resin printer only lasts 500 hours before needing to replace the screen but this one lasts 2000 hours?!? 3:15 What's that about?

@AtomicGoober 2 жыл бұрын

You could pick up a Transform for $600 more, so I really don't see that price point being competitive. And unless they have a patent on that tilt mechanic, I would wait for others manufacturers to catch up and wait for a better deal.

@lancephelps3333 2 жыл бұрын

What micron level can you get down to

@alexandredevert4935 2 жыл бұрын

The price is not that crazy. The accuracy of the printed parts are on par with what a quality desktop CNC would output. The CNC alone would be double the price of the full SL1S setup, and then you need to buy additional tooling. That means we have 2x cheaper way to make molds for resin casting

@technodrone313 2 жыл бұрын

can you use bong resin?

@PestVic 2 жыл бұрын

I get that speed with my elegoo mars 2 pro with some setting changes. So, that being said, I bet I can dial this printer even faster :-o.

@HayashiKaiji 2 жыл бұрын

I hope the tech for it becomes better and better as time goes on. As well as cheaper.

@ahmetcemturan 2 жыл бұрын

Loved the thumbnail..

@MarcSolomonScheimann 2 жыл бұрын

Nice Lightning McQueen reference in the intro! I think only Pixar fans, and parents will catch that. Ka-chow!

@tanmaynaphe2748 2 жыл бұрын

You could make PCBs on these kind of printers with photoresist film on PCB. Placing pcb on printer LCD (design of pcb on lcd screen) with photoresist facing down. Then cleaning uncured photoresist and dipping in ferric chloride. It will reduce time required for making homemade pcb with high quality.

@theosprey1950 2 жыл бұрын

Okay you got this

@Veikra 2 жыл бұрын

has price of resin gone down?

@ArnaudMEURET 2 жыл бұрын

Every time I hear “no money changed hands”, I hear a little demon yelling from the back “His Tesla will be delivered within 6 months” 😈

@juhajuntunen2557 2 жыл бұрын

If your family has female person included (or you are/had it otherwise), UV nail apparatus is good for resin printed works to afterprint hardening, 30sec UV radiaton, turn 180 degree, 30 sec again and its done. Of course cleaning must do manually but why not use what you have?

@JinKee 2 жыл бұрын

why is the resin vat moving?

@TheMidnightSmith 2 жыл бұрын

I love the idea, the price has held me off. I can get a much bigger one for the price and that's what I need. However, for those parts you take out after upgrading, maybe make a knockoff SL1?

@TheRoon4660 2 жыл бұрын

I would like to see what people are doing with IDEX printers. I think they have huge potential for creativity.

@sgavy 2 жыл бұрын

Great printer, but even with the Prusa-premium it's too expensive.

@AramcoPhil 2 жыл бұрын

at 1499€ i'd give it a hard maaaaybe at 1299€ i'd get one Make it a combo with the curing station at.. 1550€ and i'd buy that. but almost 750€ for what basically is a ultrasonic cleaner with a turntable and a UV light??

@C-M-E 2 жыл бұрын

I dig the idea of the tilting bed, but for a printer of that size, I'd rather roll my money into a larger print size versus going down from a midsize printer I have now. Speaking of speed, I was browsing in 'dream land' the other day and came across some high end printers from Uniz that have a starting build speed of 200mm/hr and go UP to 600mm/hr (!!), and with 'standard' features like a pumped resin supply, liquid cooled print screen... Ugh, I was getting weak-kneed sitting down. I would totally use all of my KZfaq pull if I were in your shoes for a demo model. 😁

@The_Mimewar 2 жыл бұрын

Is it live?

@cwbh10 2 жыл бұрын

You should compare it to a Form 3 - tho ik its a different class

@dva_kompota 2 жыл бұрын

I like your hair on the thumbnail 😁

@cheshirestoveshop3035 2 жыл бұрын

This video mentions a live stream of the upgrade process but I haven't been able to find it anywhere - does anyone have a link please?

@MadeWithLayers 2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately KZfaq produced a bug on the live stream video so I had to take it down.

@cheshirestoveshop3035 2 жыл бұрын

@@MadeWithLayers Oh ok, I'm sorry to hear that. I've just ordered the upgrade kit so will be attempting the job myself at the weekend. Many thanks for the reply and thanks for the helpful and insightful videos!

@KW-jj9uy 2 жыл бұрын

So if you spent an equal amount of money on a budget resin printers. How many models could you print in 24h ? with one SL1S or with 7 Budget printers ?

@KT-pv3kl 2 жыл бұрын

budget printers win out by roughly 7 times . 1,4s cure times is standard for all mono LCD printers which is the majority of current gen models. for the price of a single sl1s I could buy 5 anycubic mono and about 75 bottles of resin and print for roughly 3-5 years including cost for alcohol , gloves and replacement parts