Tobias Menzies and Olivia Coleman are powerhouse actors here. Watching them is like watching a beautiful masterful work of art. Chefs kiss !

Matt Smith mate

@@nikhilpatel7832 good lord, thank you!

They are a powerhouse acting team!

And the way both of them acted in a universe by George R. R. Martin!

@nikhilpatel7832, Get a life.

I would say that Philip had a rather "damaging" childhood. At least concerning his parents. A father (Prince Andrew of Greece and Denmark) who had absconded with the family's money to live with his mistress in southern France; a mother (née Princess Alice of Battenberg --who was known as Princess Andrew of Greece and Denmark) had been declared insane and institutionalized for several years after her husband's abandonment. Prince Philip , Duke of Edinburgh, and his 4 older sisters were raised by their maternal grandparents; " *Louis Alexander Mountbatten, 1st Marquess of* *Milford Haven* (1854 - 1921), formerly Prince Louis Alexander of Battenberg, was a British naval officer and German prince related by marriage to the British royal family." --- Wikipedia AND " *Princess Victoria of Hesse and by Rhine*, then [as] Princess Louis of Battenberg, later Victoria Mountbatten, Marchioness of Milford Haven (1863 -1950), [who] was the eldest daughter of Louis IV, Grand Duke of Hesse and by Rhine, and Princess Alice of the United Kingdom, daughter of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha." -- Wikipedia After his grandfather died, he was raised by his grandmother and spent his holidays with the Mountbatten Prince Philip's maternal aunt was the Queen of Sweden. He didn't see her much.

Neither Philip nor Elizabeth came from a generation that had a grasp of psychology and therapy.

@@Pdmc-vu5gj Exactly! That generation just gritted their teeth and carried on, as did their parents' generation and many generations before them. Survival was the name of the game for most people throughout mankind's' history

@@here_we_go_again2571 When we think of what the people of that Greatest Generation went through, it’s small wonder that they didn’t value talking about “feelings” much. That way lay dragons. The only way to keep standing and sloughing through an often terrible set of circumstances without giving into despair and having it take them down was to bury the pain of loss deep and keep buggering on with things they could control. This was for physical survival but also for mental survival. Elizabeth and Philip came from privileged backgrounds, but even they experienced the deprivations and uncertainty of war. Philip essentially lost both of his parents at a very tender age And suffered further loss when his sister and her entire family perished in a plane crash. Homeless, penniless…devoid of his family. A person in that situation has two choices: Knuckle down and become an incredibly strong character, Teflon…. Or go to pieces and lose his mind and maybe end his own life. Philip chose the former course and his children paid the price for that, principally his eldest. But what a colorful life he had and he really turned the basically constitutionally meaningless job of consort into a life of purpose. As for Elizabeth, she was emotionally distant for different reasons. I suspect her emotional detachment came from possibly mildly autistic tendencies as we would call it now, or possibly Emotional retreat was her personal way of coping with her overbearing narcissistic mother. Despite the idyllic pictures of childhood presented by the media, I think Lilibet and Margaret were under their mother’s thumb all their lives. Their dear Papa Doted on them but his wife wore the pants in the family. The lady who terrified Adolf Hitler would certainly have been formidable in her own family circle. Charles was spoiled by this grandma, and her smothering love didn’t do his character many favors. He had the misfortune to be an emotionally needy child born to two emotionally unavailable parents. In every respect Britain might’ve been better off if his sister Anne had been born to be the Queen. There are distinct advantages to not being a pile of emotional mush when one has to wear a Crown.

He didn't? With his own personal history? He certainly did.

Indeed! It really struck me when Andrew was the only one who met her with a wide, happy smile. He knew how to charm and m*nipulate her, certainly, but there is also the distinct feeling that he's the only one who feels a real connection with her, to the point where he WANTS to see her, and doesn't question why she wants to see him. Shame about the real life Andrew, of course :/

Remember that The Crown is a dramatisation, not a documentary.

@@mck2021 there's always one 😅 WE KNOW DEAR.

you do know this is crap

Since when do we censor the word manipulate????

At least he redeemed himself by encouraging William to make peace with Charles.

Did he actually say that about Charles in real life?

It’s a television show. There’s little doubt that Charles and Philip had a rough relationship but this conversation is entirely fictional, scripted for an excellent drama but nothing more.

@@robertisham5279never publicly. This was an entirely fictional conversation.

@@lordalessanin the show. But don’t forget this is entirely fictional, scripted entirely for an excellent television show but nothing more.

she never had the time to be a mother to her young children, Charles wasn’t even three when George VI first became ill and Elizabeth was taking over many of his duties. I do think her relationship with all her children improved by her eighties and definitely in her nineties, but it was so tough to be given such a responsibility at just 25.

Everything is "depression" nowadays 🙄😑

​@@gein87 Or...it might be better mental health literacy. Just a thought ✌️

​@@gein87 I agree with you

@@gein87 People felt depressed back then too. They just coped with it in different ways. Including some, being institutionalized, if their coping skills were poor OR their depression very deep (melancolia)

Queen Victoria didn't like her children much either, particular her eldest son, whom she blamed for her beloved Albert's death. She said and wrote terrible things about her children and treated some with great cruelty. But her mother was a horrible mother too.

@ KrisKk08 Personality traits can be inherited. I think that HMTQ just needed a pre-natal class or two or three to get the hang of it. But back then, nobody did that sort of thing; unless a class was for poor people whom society assumed did not know how to care for their children. Skip forward two generations; I remember Catherine and William having some sort of sessions with pre-delivery/ pre-natal nurses Also, William was an EMT and EMT pilot. Charles did change William's and Harry's diapers. I think if the marriage had not been so fractious that he would have spent more time with the boys. I somehow can't invision Prince Philip changing nappies. BUT he was a royal naval officer who had served on a combat ship during WW2 -- So he might have been able to do it.😁

@@here_we_go_again2571 And I'm sure becoming a queen at 25, with two toddlers didn't help. Didn't she and Philip go on a world tour for a long time shortly after becoming queen? How can a kid not feel abandoned when your parents are suddenly traveling the world and too busy for you. If she could have been a mother as heir for more years, raised her children to an age where they could understand what was going on and why things changed the way they did...

@@jenniferdaniels701 Yes that Commonwealth tour(s) was what George VI and his consort were planning on doing before he became ill. The Commonwealth (a trading and cultural bloc) was George VI's pet, post-WW2 project. It still is a great idea.

@@here_we_go_again2571 I think it's a good idea, too. But the timing of the tour wasn't good for the family as a family. As The Firm, it was business as usual- George VI can't make it, okay, send in his replacement, Elizabeth II.

Philip truly loved Elizabeth. What do you expect him to say? "Yeah you messed up?" *No!* He tried to ease her pain and anxiety. There was nothing she could do at that time about things that happened years before!

@@here_we_go_again2571 There's another option; he could suggest they do better from that moment on.

A woman who has clearly been the child/grandchild of emotionally remote mothers could not offer her own children what she never had. Elizabeth did the best she could with this limitation and her adult children came to appreciate this.

She tried to keep her grandchildren away from their mother's funeral.

Considering how much Harry didn’t want to walk and how angry it made him being forced, she was right. I remember thinking at the time it was cruel for them to have to walk having suddenly lost their mother. It was child abuse, they were children! They shouldn’t have been put on public display.

That's very true.

Andrew never would have stood for a woman who tried to dominate him. Fergie just "went with the flow" Neither of them are deep thinkers.

@@here_we_go_again2571 Huh? Camilla SUPPORTS HM. Catherine supports William.

@@Pisti846 Yes, Camilla, unlike Diana, supports Charles! Catherine supports Wiliam and Sophie supports Edward. Even Fergie supports Andrew (they have remained friends over the years) Princess Anne's husband is also very supportive of her and vice versa.

​@@here_we_go_again2571Diana supported Charles, but she didn't allow him to have a mistress. Fergie didn't care about Andrew sexcapades because she did so herself. If these facts made you think Fergie was the supportive spouse instead of Diana, I pity the person who would become your spouse.

This isn’t a documentary.

I think we do know that it was never this topic.

MOST of this show is contrived..... May God rest our Queen for a job incredibly well done.

@@kittykatz4001 It's not a documentary??? Oh my God!!! How on earth did you figure that out? And thank you for being the first person (and not the MILLIONTH person) to point this out in the comments section. Thank you for sharing with us your superior ability to see these things. You are an impressively intelligent person.

Anne said she had very loving parents. Just they were away a lot.

@@MsJubjubbirdYou can’t be “loving” if you aren’t there.

Agree. 💯

Harsh

@@cje3247 she means that when they were there, they were very involved and nurturing. In an interview she was talking about the bedtime stories her father would come up with and such. And they sent letters and things when they were away. Just their jobs required them to travel

This conversation NEVER happened, it is an entirely fictional event, scripted by the writer's immagination for the TV show. You then like some silly little school child try to make something of fiction about the royal Family. Foolish, foolish child!

Alas, she had a job to do that did NOT allow ignoring her ministers. She provided a supportive upbringing as she had received. Given the post 1960 social prbadly. of society, she didn't do too bafly.

Not some but 99 %humanity out of 100%

@ tconcotelli If her father had lived longer; and if the world situation post- WW2 and during the earliest days of the Commonwealth had been more peaceful (i.e. no Cold War with Joe Stalin threatening to take over Europe and China going Communist) the situation would have been very different for Elizabeth II. She loved being a naval officer's wife and she made quite a few friends (and had a "normal" life) when she was only Princess Elizabeth.

When Charles and Anne were little , she was busy starting her reign, she was the original working mum , by the time Andrew and Edward were born in the 1960's she was able to spend more time with them, No parent is perfect but all four knew their mum loved them .

@@sarahudson108yet Andrew turned out to be the one with the most issues in real life.

​@sarahudson108 Please she sent them to live with her parents and Margaret while Philip was in the Navy

He's a totalitarian WEF hypocrite.

😬

What a ridiculous system to make a family so insanely privileged but also so intensely miserable.

William and his family are fine.

These two are such powerhouse actors, we forget it’s not the real Royal family. Coleman and Menzies are chefs kiss 😘

This is but the real Family is exactly like this.

Historical Fiction = To fill in the gaps from diaries, testimonies, interviews, etc.. Not historical fact -- A blending of fact and fiction.

I think you will find that is was the commonwealth who carried the british, including the royals on their backs.

No. Andrew was always a spoilt, entitled brat. Philip was chiefly concerned with Charles and Anne. Elizabeth busied herself with the younger two boys. Philip did not neglect Andrew or Edward, but they came along several years after Charles and Anne. Philip was not overly involved with the younger two boys. As they grew older, they also bonded with him.

Andrew had to settle out of a trial of sexual assault against minors. I would say no.

Every parent has a favorite child that is just reality lol

Like Philip said, any honest parent will admit to having a favorite child. That doesn't mean that you don't love the other children.

I think everyone has a favourite. That’s pretty normal

Sadly, mothers have been hurting themselves with the “was/am I a good mother” question for much longer than social media has been around. Well, at least in the U.S., which is where my experience is. It seemed like that question started in the last two decades of the 20th century (for the U.S.). But I agree that social media has made it worse.

@@Elizabeth-tq7qw Thats same as asking one self am I best version of myself - its part of continuous improvement. What social media has done is forced mothers to look at mothers around them and then judge themselves based on others experiences of motherhood. That is so so sick at every level. Every mum-child relationship is unique. The twinkle in ur childs eyes will communicate, the trust the child places in u..the bond u feel towards the child will tell u whether u experienced the joys of motherhood...nothing else..

Before social media there were the magazines. I am sure most parents do the best job they can.

@@MsJubjubbirdNot all.

@@MsJubjubbird really..I thought this was due to social media invention. Too much intrusion into what is very a private thing. Some parents have stronger nesting instinct than others. Not sure what these magazines and social media channels are selling and why do they find an audience.