The questions the Crows must answer over infamous camp amid cover-up concerns

The questions the Crows must answer over infamous camp amid cover-up concerns - Footy Classified

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Sam McClure joins the Footy Classified panel to take us through the latest with the infamous Crows camp saga.
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@Jimbo_Ka-Blamo Жыл бұрын

Mark Ricciuto and the Crows spent years denying the reports, pressuring players to not speak out with potential of vilification by both the club & its fans and completely dismissing the clear trauma/ feelings of the players affected. And now ONLY apologies and accepts wrong doing years later after multiple past players have lifted the lid free from the workplace coercion. Disgusting. Needs to step down asap.

@Toastroony Жыл бұрын

We also need to make sure that everything we think happened actually happened and we need to find out what was exaggerated and what wasnt

@PeterAtkinson Жыл бұрын

If they’re coaching players on what to say to their partners after the camp is finished, they know what they’re doing is wrong. 👍

@Bloodynine606 Жыл бұрын

Sending a premiership contender to that camp has to be one of the worst decisions a club has ever made

@erichoberg3502 Жыл бұрын

Josh and Eddie were already resilient men. They were AFL players that grew up in less than ideal circumstances. The whole team as Eddie said we're closer after Walsh's death, resilience. Did they really need this kind of camp?

@cliffbooth4826 Жыл бұрын

I'm sure they wish they didn't run the camp now lol.. killed a premiership contending team

@stewartgardiner9792 Жыл бұрын

Respected Riccuito as a player but he needs to go. All he's done for 4 years is cover his arse while the team fell apart. Crows supporters deserve better.

@jsequine927 Жыл бұрын

Ricciuto is a great example of a an old school footy head who just doesn’t have the intellectual or emotional IQ to be in a position of power managing young men in the modern game. Every step of the way with this saga his comments have shown himself to be out of his depth, misaligned with the playing group and more interested in protecting his mates and sweeping it all under the carpet than investigating and having the ear of all the players. All his defences have not shown leadership, they’ve just alienated him from the club and highlighted his poor grasp of the whole episode.

@PTPavlos Жыл бұрын

That is very well said.

@jamesfisher4892 Жыл бұрын

A modern day Jock Riley

@williamporter8355 Жыл бұрын

Perfect political skill set.

@scottharris5101 Жыл бұрын

He is a product of a club/corporation that was created from the boardroom not born from a community and believes he is bigger identity than the club itself.

@TDB2509 Жыл бұрын

Adelaide have been pitiful concerning this camp, needs to be sorted

@lids34 Жыл бұрын

Vindication for McClure and Wilson and embarassing for Adelaide and those Collective Mindless bozos.

@shaz464 Жыл бұрын

McClure and Wilson still reported inaccurate things about the camp and that’s why channel 9 and The Age had to make retractions.

@TheDirge69 Жыл бұрын

lol your username....

@jornavyr2459 Жыл бұрын

@@shaz464 ohhhh awesome and he summarised his claims at the start of the article. All claims which Adelaide have come out and apologized for in the last few weeks. "Adelaide Crows players were tied to trees, surrounded by fake automatic weapons and sledged with intensely personal details during the now-infamous 2018 training camp" Why you lying for? Bias is bad, didn't you know?

@Nick-hx1uz Жыл бұрын

Amazing how often Caro gets vindicated. Best in the biz

@shaz464 Жыл бұрын

@@Nick-hx1uz neither she nor MCClure have been vindicated for reporting inaccurate things about the camp. That’s why channel 9 and The Age had to make retractions.

@magnusforte9988 Жыл бұрын

How is riccuito still at the club? He is a disgrace.

@bluesful Жыл бұрын

I wonder how much of the decision on the 'need' to do something akin to the camp, was purely based on the fact that they lost a GF? Obviously in retrospect this is easy to say, but losing to that Richmond team was no shameful event. Adelaide were probably the better team throughout that 2017 season, but that Richmond team went on to dominate for years to come. Losing to them in a GF shouldn't have been the catalyst for the camp.

@purebloodsunite7489 Жыл бұрын

Yes losing the gf broke their brains. I bet this type of camp was pretty typical back in the day like Cornes says, but whatever that time has passed now future gf losers will be reminded to keep their heads by this incident.

@chriscoomber2035 Жыл бұрын

Mark( casual racism) Ricciuto is the kinda guy that says dont you know who i am

@TheDirge69 Жыл бұрын

Should he go and sit alone in his stand and reflect!

@paulweston285 Жыл бұрын

Tex loved the camp that says it all

@shramo Жыл бұрын

8:45 great answer, Sam. Thankyou

@kalebarancelovic Жыл бұрын

I agree with everything the panel are saying

@bayden99 Жыл бұрын

I would of liked this panel to comment on Graham Cornes article like they said they will get too. Cornes stated that he has been involved in tough camps and has heard about camps on the same page as this which never got the attention like this camp. Makes me wonder how many camps have broken playing groups and it all got swept under the rug.

@maxwatkins7032 Жыл бұрын

You know the denial and cover up was awful when Sam McClure had his award stripped of him and then given back over a story in a camp

@conantonopoulos4361 Жыл бұрын

Adelaide should cop a penalty for this. The only penalty that will hurt us the loss of national draft picks. They should be stripped of their first round pick this year.

@joeybersa6783 Жыл бұрын

How is that remotely proportionate? The majority of those involved have been sacked and no longer work with the club. Also the crows didn't tamper with any AFL regulations regarding list management or salary cap

@memoresto3480 Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@brettcummings6625 Жыл бұрын

lol the afl cleared them of any wrong doing 4 years ago. If there's a penalty it should be on gill and all the other suits.

@fab4601 Жыл бұрын

Adelaide , a quaint town

@sashas8168 Жыл бұрын

Ricciuto needs to go that's it!

@pdiddy7607 Жыл бұрын

Cornes and Lloyd wouldn’t have a clue about trading players or their worth, of course rankine is worth 800k a yr; he is a superstar playing for an expansion club

@callumglass7935 Жыл бұрын

9:15 they did bring in Indigenous Liason officers after the camp, Eddie Betts mentioned it in one of his interviews

@imalwaysright Жыл бұрын

They also shut affected and indigenous players out of the leadership group and isolated them, threatened them if they shared what happened (including legal threats) failed to act on doctors reports which detailed the effects of the camp. It was a cover up.

@TomMarvan Жыл бұрын

The best footy show on tv or radio.

@grant575mixmaster Жыл бұрын

if you are going to call out and cancel a guy over that camp, then call out a certain CEO and other players/staff still active, who over watched the Ben Cousins/Mainwaring train wreck and did absolutely nothing.

@gerardrees7471 Жыл бұрын

What do the Adelaide faithful think about all this? Would be interesting to hear

@frankhenderson7709 Жыл бұрын

As a supporter of the crows it was shameful what has happened,but could not any of the players stand up and say we are not doing this ,they couldn't sack all of them.

@shortymcshort1375 Жыл бұрын

Weren’t people calling Rankine a superstar a couple weeks ago? Now they’re worried about Adelaide overpaying him. Media changes up quick sometimes

@normlothian8379 Жыл бұрын

ive just finished eddies book why did betts and the rest off the players not just walk .

@memoresto3480 Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@imalwaysright Жыл бұрын

you must have not read the rest or the comments of the players which easily explain this

@Uncleputer Жыл бұрын

jokes on them he is still there

@usbeingrandom Жыл бұрын

Media have found their next target - best of luck Mark Ricciuto

@Yumm... Жыл бұрын

He’s incredibly deserving of being fired. This isn’t a media hit job

@bayden99 Жыл бұрын

Doesn't matter if he deserves it or not, it will be a media hit job. We have all witnessed the media push a club into a corner with consistent media pressure to force a discussion, this will be no different.

@worker-wf2em Жыл бұрын

You do realise Ricciuto attacked the media when they first reported on it. Rather than being ‘forced’ into a discussion, it’s almost like Ricciuto shouldn’t have tried to sweep it under the rug and instead should have willingly addressed it at the time. He’s made his own bed. He’ll cop what he deserves

@jsequine927 Жыл бұрын

His job is to protect the players not throw them under the bus and and privately and publicly bury serious breaches of their welfare, and potentially the law. He needs to suffer the consequences, I’ll equipped to do any management job if players. I wonder if he would have got the job if he wasn’t an ex great …🙄

@jsequine927 Жыл бұрын

@@bayden99 part of their job is to hold people and clubs to account with shitty shady business like this. McClure, love him or hate him, lost his Quill award because of his coverage of this at the time, but he was proven to be right all along. He has a right to be angry and go hard because the club flat out lied and got the biggest broom they could find

@rumdriven8259 24 күн бұрын

Seriously, the players put up with this camp. If they had balls, they would have walked away and said FU.

@davidfairgrieve8508 Жыл бұрын

We all have problems in life, Most of us just suck it up and get on with life, But when your life is so privileged as sportsmen , you forget about real people in real life who suffer real abuse, but Eddie stayed at the crows till the end of his career, if It was that bad he should of retired at the time,

@bobdown5520 Жыл бұрын

He finished at Carlton

@davidfairgrieve8508 Жыл бұрын

I stand corrected, my apologies,

@annpeerkat2020 11 ай бұрын

The correctness of what you wrote is as bad as the wisdom of what you wrote.

@BenJamin-jc4jm Жыл бұрын

Who can we destroy this week? Llordo said little which says a lot.

@aussieintexas61 Жыл бұрын

hated him as a bomber player. respect what he says and how he conducts himself compared to the other headline grabbers

@angryexpat Жыл бұрын

Move em to Tassie

@SkandiaAUS Жыл бұрын

I would never recommend doubling down 👇 on anything that is blowing up in the media unless you're 100% in the right. But how else does Riccuto comes across except for old fashioned and a man's man. Out of date much?

@BenJamin-jc4jm Жыл бұрын

The coach, CEO, head of football and half the club have left as a result. They have apologised so move on. Stop calling for heads. He who is without sin…

@mataph7805 Жыл бұрын

Crowes: Dig up stupid

@evad7933 Жыл бұрын

Far too one sided. Needed players involved in the camp who thought highly of it.

@aussieintexas61 Жыл бұрын

or other groups or individuals. none have come forward, confidentiality clause or not.

@imalwaysright Жыл бұрын

you saying it's one-sided when your comment is one-sided lmao. Players were split into different groups and had different activities and forbidden from sharing

@jamiemorrison5343 Жыл бұрын

Nothing to see here

@grantmonaghan810 Жыл бұрын

Going to barrack for someone else next year. Don’t want to cheer for a bunch of LIARS or contribute anymore of my money 💰. Can’t wait to see these tools in public. LMAO.

@jimmyriddle5246 Жыл бұрын

If you really are a crows supporter, I bet you don't barrack for anyone else

@MrBarry465 Жыл бұрын

If that's the case, we don't want supporters like you.

@travisharvey7911 Жыл бұрын

@@jimmyriddle5246 if he’s really a Crows supporter…he’s really just a closet Power supporter

@memoresto3480 Жыл бұрын

Spend it on hookers

@tonymelnik2235 Жыл бұрын

Birdman

@petermcculloch4933 Жыл бұрын

Where is the AFL? They run the competition and need to pull their head out of the sand.

@scottharris5101 Жыл бұрын

Gill and his family are part of the elite network of Adelaide and are staunch Crows supporters, that coupled with Sharing sponsorship with Toyota he may have been tasked with making the problem go away to save embarrassment for the national sponsor.

@petermcculloch4933 Жыл бұрын

@@scottharris5101 The AFL is such a grubby organisation.I look at their major sponsors.MacDonalds, Coca Cola, Carlton and United.They promote unhealthy products

@dominicarndt3762 Жыл бұрын

Heads up…the cheesy emotional music makes this an even more farcical hit job on the crows

@jkandte Жыл бұрын

Let’s be honest, the media won’t be happy until the football club goes up in flames

@jasonmccredden1050 Жыл бұрын

Mark and Gill need some of their own medicine

@grantmonaghan810 Жыл бұрын

If given the choice, which aboriginal footballers would play for the crows? maybe Betts or Cameron . 😂 lmao

@jameswrappner4624 Жыл бұрын

You can just tell how much these media rats hate the crows😅 Especially thing in the dress

@paulweston285 Жыл бұрын

Its not just the media you chump its all of Australia

@jameswrappner4624 Жыл бұрын

@@paulweston285 you poor little darling... Are your feelings hurt from that camp too? Please, please try to fight through it😅

@jornavyr2459 Жыл бұрын

Paul isn't wrong though. Everyone hates that plastic, fake club. Fkin Camry Clowns. You're always racist down there in Adelaide as well. Bloody ferals.

@paulweston285 Жыл бұрын

@@jameswrappner4624 My feelings are that im just loving watching your outdated backwater club implode, is there anything better in life than Tex Walker flying home with an empty seat next to him ?

@memoresto3480 Жыл бұрын

@@jameswrappner4624 that’s funny