Bryce Gibbs details his experience of the infamous Adelaide Crows camp

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Жыл бұрын

Bryce Gibbs discusses his experience of the controversial Adelaide Crows training camp with Andrew Hayes on SEN's Saturdays in SA.

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@ramonecricket5183
@ramonecricket5183 Жыл бұрын
It’s a shame that only retired players feel like they can speak about what happened. I reckon there would be a few current crows players reticent to tell their story for fear of being ostracized within the club.
@chriscoomber2035
@chriscoomber2035 Жыл бұрын
matt crouch
@shaz464
@shaz464 Жыл бұрын
For your information there are retired players who still stick by their comments that they had a positive experience at the camp.
@baird55aus
@baird55aus Жыл бұрын
@@shaz464 Probably the ones who didn't have things that could be dragged up. You know the things that club said they would not reveal. JJs interview was very candid.
@shaz464
@shaz464 Жыл бұрын
@@baird55aus exactly. The ones who revealed things about their childhood had that thrown back at them and it was a horrible experience. And although they seem to be in the minority, it’s still very wrong. However there are far more that have said (and are still saying), that they liked the camp, had positive experiences, were very complimentary about it or at the very least had no problem with it.
@imalwaysright
@imalwaysright Жыл бұрын
@@shaz464 or they said that to cover it up and keep their jobs. Eddie and Josh spoke of the wall of silence - they were told they couldn't speak about it several times, were told speaking was a breach of legal agreements. Those that complained were dropped from leadership groups, ostracized, and their complaints were buried. The groups could have also been treated differently. Group 1 was a cesspool of club-sponsored abuse.
@blindfreddy9157
@blindfreddy9157 Жыл бұрын
So, those that had experienced trauma as children had their childhood trauma exploited in order to re-traumatise them as adults in front of their peers. WTF?
@7star7storm7
@7star7storm7 Жыл бұрын
Settle down sweetheart.. it's called exposure therapy .. facing the hurt and pain you're holding onto deep inside .. these guys are top level footballers .. supposedly the toughest sportsmen in the country - perhaps a knitting class with fairy bread and a lemonade stand would've been more appropriate.. GTFOH
@mindofown
@mindofown Жыл бұрын
@@7star7storm7 Its not Exposure Therapy, Its an Aversive technique most often used in the military and totally inappropriate for the context they used it in, Blind Freddy nailed it
@cajoz
@cajoz Жыл бұрын
@@7star7storm7 this is called pseudo-psychology ya mug. Exposure therapy is used by professional mental health experts in a SAFE setting, usually to help deal with fears, not to "build resilience", or "toughen up" players in a sports team. I'm sure your mum thinks you're a really strong boy.
@mindofown
@mindofown Жыл бұрын
You nailed it Freddy
@iankearns774
@iankearns774 Жыл бұрын
@@7star7storm7 I agree with you to a point but it sounds as if it was taken way too far, I did boot camps back in the early 90's and you are pushed past what you can endure and then made to feel bad about it but then they have ways to rebuild you up and succeed where at first you failed. Kind of bad cop good cop and you come out the end feeling that you really succeeded. This looks as though it was a totally different animal altogether.Because they mostly left traumatized.
@hawkers94
@hawkers94 Жыл бұрын
Ricciuto needs to be fully examined for his role in this fiasco
@grantmcaskell4568
@grantmcaskell4568 Жыл бұрын
When you have a cancer and you do nothing it spreads.
@purebloodsunite7489
@purebloodsunite7489 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I think the camp was his idea not Pyke;s because Pyke seems genuinely sorry.
@peekabooicancu
@peekabooicancu Жыл бұрын
The camp itself was clearly completely inappropriate to say the least. The response from the club and the people investigating what happened in the years since is simply unacceptable and highlights completely unsafe working conditions. You need to be able to report things that have happened to you, and at the bare minimum be offered support for what you have gone through. Very brave of all of these players to come out to make things better for the future, and to hopefully find peace.
@PeterHarman1
@PeterHarman1 Жыл бұрын
Well articulated Bryce
@mindofown
@mindofown Жыл бұрын
The camp was psychologically harmful it was Totally unprofessional and unethical. To do that sort of stuff properly, you would have to prep people until you felt they were equipped with the psychological resiliency and psychological defenses, believing they are fully prepped to undergo such aversive conditioning. Also with a whole lot of back-up support, before you start to hit them with their greatest vulnerabilities. It's more a military technique to screen out those that lack resiliency for an extreme war environment or to train military people to tolerate torture rather than a resiliency building program for elite sportsmen. My guess it was Ex-Military that ran the program rather than mental health professionals. Amateur hour at the Club management level and inappropriately qualified Camp facilitators.
@justicedemocrat9357
@justicedemocrat9357 Жыл бұрын
Apparently this was some part of elite SAS army training drills. The people who sign up for the SAS go in with their eyes open knowing that the training will be grueling physically and mentally and so will be prepared but even then the attrition rate is quite high. You can't surprise normal people to undergo mentally invasive training programs completely blind it's asking for problems even if they're elite athletes being in a war is completely different to playing a sport. Maybe, if you let players know about the program before they do it and explain to them every little detail and tell them it's completely voluntary maybe it wouldn't have fractured the club and would have strengthened those who decide to do it.
@bazza2540
@bazza2540 Жыл бұрын
The army let you out if you ask, and your job security is not on the line. Also, they are literally brainwashing them to be psychopathic killers, not to kick a ball around an oval....
@imalwaysright
@imalwaysright Жыл бұрын
It's not elite SAS army training drills. It's pseudo crap run by a bunch of opportunist charlatans. The Adelaide boys are footy players, not armed forces training for a world war hostage interrogation situation.
@ktfavelt10
@ktfavelt10 Жыл бұрын
Although it is a bit late, well done Bryce for speaking up and supporting Eddie and Josh. 😊
@benstrachan3418
@benstrachan3418 Жыл бұрын
I love the comments about reflecting on not speaking up. Everyone has those moments. I hope we can do better in future.
@MrShadowman32au
@MrShadowman32au Жыл бұрын
Honestly sounds like an extremely decent fella! Pity he has to say he regrets things that he did when he was thrown into it. Hard to imagine how hard that position he found himself was for a new player. Terribly sad that the club and AFL have taken the “nothing to see here view “ Clearly there was
@lukezito2628
@lukezito2628 10 күн бұрын
Listen to this high. And visualise the situation
@dannynicol1185
@dannynicol1185 Жыл бұрын
It’s easy to see why they couldn’t win a premiership as they obviously were not a close enough team to trust each other and deal with what happened . Soft leadership and pike should have been more focused on bringing the team together to deal with the emotional weakness that can be found in most of us as individuals. The main strength of a team is that it cannot be brought down by 1 or 2 hits or body blows as the other numbers are there to protect and defend the parts that are wounded and bleeding so they know they are safe and the ones inflicting the damage will see they have no weapons anymore. It’s true that it says a lot about the whole club 😭😭😭
@williamporter8355
@williamporter8355 Жыл бұрын
Well done Bryce for being so frank about the experience. You together with brothers Crouch, Stengle, were all treated unfairly well after the camp and proves little improvement in player management has been achieved yet those players will all continue to deliver for other teams against the crows youself excepted i guess, demonstrating how inept the crows have been and perhaps still are.
@SEALZONE
@SEALZONE Жыл бұрын
Stengle and crouch were arrested for getting caught buying Cocaine what are you on about treated unfairly?
@raysgr
@raysgr Жыл бұрын
Who ever at Adelaide's management level that authorised or approved of this camp should be sacked! I hope those that have been scared by this look at their legal options.
@saxon3980
@saxon3980 Жыл бұрын
I can't see how the club can truly move on whilst the people who instigated or defended the camp remain in place. What is being described is similar to capture and integration process that occurs in the Army, and it has no place in a civilian/sporting environment. I guess the most disturbing element was the use of what should have been privileged and confidential information. I'd love to know what qualifications the 'counselor' had because no professional would allow such a breach of trust.
@SEALZONE
@SEALZONE Жыл бұрын
This camp was already sorted out ages ago, the people involved were all either sacked or told to step down. Old news.
@saxon3980
@saxon3980 Жыл бұрын
@@SEALZONE well obviously it isn't, as all the "nothing to see here" people are now being forced to acknowledge what actually happened. My bet is there's more to come, and more heads to roll (cough..Roo, multiple board members). Unless the issue truly gets sorted you might as well get used to mediocrity 🤣
@SEALZONE
@SEALZONE Жыл бұрын
@@saxon3980 If you actually followed the AFL you would know that the camp has already been investigated and many people involved have already been fired. This has only been brought to light again because Eddie betts wanted to sell his book. Simple as that.
@saxon3980
@saxon3980 Жыл бұрын
@@SEALZONE if you actually followed the news, you'd know that the AFL made their decision based on what information came to light at the time. More is now known, and not just from Eddie Betts, and as I said, now that a few have spoken up more will follow. Personally I hope it just gets left to fester, as is you obviously wish. That way the club will continue to languish, which exactly what you Koolaid drinking fans deserve🤣
@imalwaysright
@imalwaysright Жыл бұрын
I want those culpable held accountable and punished. They should be removed from the industry. Not only was the camp appalling, but there's a massive coverup.
@grantmcaskell4568
@grantmcaskell4568 Жыл бұрын
You might want to start with a former captain now running your board who said two days ago that everything was in the past and move on. When you have a cancer it spreads.
@curnwah11
@curnwah11 Жыл бұрын
@@grantmcaskell4568 Camp was cleared by Safework SA.
@grantmcaskell4568
@grantmcaskell4568 Жыл бұрын
@@curnwah11 shows hoe shit that organisation is
@binks7988
@binks7988 11 ай бұрын
Omg. Literally our combat core soldiers go through this in training .Imagine the SAS or Commandos. Watch search for warriors if you dont believe me....... our boys are girls serving go through way worse than a little camp.
@GK-wx6xo
@GK-wx6xo Жыл бұрын
Can we get our draft picks back????
@michaelcipriano1713
@michaelcipriano1713 Жыл бұрын
This sounds like the coaches and administration's revenge on the players for loosing the 2017 Grand Final. The AFL and the Adelaide football club should be sued for this inappropriate conduct. This is a work place environment and all work place policies were ignored. The due process is to persue legal action.
@purebloodsunite7489
@purebloodsunite7489 Жыл бұрын
Yes losing 2017 broke their brains.
@tateduku
@tateduku Жыл бұрын
Cant even imagine, the abuse Eddie would have copped compared to Sloan,Gibbs etc 🤦🏾‍♂️☹️
@pcorf
@pcorf 5 ай бұрын
As a Crows supporter, 2018 and 2019 sucked big time. They should have just moved on from the GF and started preseason normally.
@marcrawley6001
@marcrawley6001 Жыл бұрын
Bryce just upset there wasn’t a TAB on site
@stewartgardiner9792
@stewartgardiner9792 Жыл бұрын
Seems like Gibbs didn't tell the camp organisers anything they could use and wasn't in the gf, so all they had on was that he got traded. Probably needed to speak for the guys who did get cooked by these assholes. Riccuito should be shown the door , all he's done is cover his arse while the team fell apart. Crows supporters deserve better.
@geoffgeorge805
@geoffgeorge805 Жыл бұрын
This is just about the $$
@orion7563
@orion7563 Жыл бұрын
The only thing AFL players should be doing at pre season camp's is gaol kicking practice!!!
@tinty8499
@tinty8499 Жыл бұрын
Your a BlueBagger for life Bryce!!!
@damizzy3
@damizzy3 Жыл бұрын
If they turned up on grand final day wouldn’t be a topic
@longtimefirsttime5525
@longtimefirsttime5525 Жыл бұрын
But they didn't, and it is
@magicjohnson3121
@magicjohnson3121 Жыл бұрын
The camp showed that they didn’t have it.
@jlg5967
@jlg5967 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like living under Dan Andrews during Covid19 Psyop.
@brianellespilner6314
@brianellespilner6314 Жыл бұрын
Weirdo club, strange behaviour from the Adelaide Football club.
@viviancoulthard6696
@viviancoulthard6696 Жыл бұрын
Its not what they say in public, but what they say when they think their not in public an not on record, Tex is a prime example and is a complete knob with 🤣🐓pics on his phone he proudly showed me at Ramy weeks after the camp..🤯 true words...AFClub has lost, transfered ect over 18 quality players since 2012 output of products ++ plus input of products negative-- = Adelaide Football Clubs previous 3seasons current player list, board, admin and attitudes visions need a long hard look change and restructure top to bottom
@shaz464
@shaz464 Жыл бұрын
How did Tex have pics on his phone when their phones were taken away from them.
@ddw-ge1ss
@ddw-ge1ss Жыл бұрын
Heavy metal music playing. Sounds like a paradise
@viclionsden6752
@viclionsden6752 Жыл бұрын
Over reaction about all this. It’s just a boot camp designed to hurt your precious feelings and give you the skills to deal with them. Sounds like a few cups of concrete needed to be dished out and thank Christ these young men were highly paid skilled footballers and didn’t decide to join the army where they would of only had mummy to cry to.
@johnnybgood3909
@johnnybgood3909 Жыл бұрын
Don Pyke is thought of being an evil cult leader by some
@tonyl6520
@tonyl6520 Жыл бұрын
someone should have told gibbs how to be a better player!!
@forku5749
@forku5749 Жыл бұрын
Well done Bryce for being over paid, didn't matter then but all of a sudden it's an issue. Who knows with a little more luck you maybe able to sue 💲
@awjelfs5034
@awjelfs5034 Жыл бұрын
Toughen up princess.
@dreamz5380
@dreamz5380 Жыл бұрын
Who cares now.. been 4 years clearly the phrase “sticks and stones” was taken a whole lot differently
@memoresto3480
@memoresto3480 Жыл бұрын
More games Gibbs! How about all the debt you ran up here in Adelaide??? That’s why you didn’t get games!!!
@aledwyn6017
@aledwyn6017 Жыл бұрын
They got it wrong simple as
@moregoldmoregold
@moregoldmoregold Жыл бұрын
Tex walker seems like a knob
@geoffgeorge805
@geoffgeorge805 Жыл бұрын
No mirrors in your house ahh?
@ci2763
@ci2763 Жыл бұрын
And that's why there should be only 1 s.a team PORT ADELAIDE,, oh and there far from RACIST
@SEALZONE
@SEALZONE Жыл бұрын
Yeah port adelaide is much closer to rapists instead. You've had many players over the years get done on sexual assault charges. All we had was 1 player say something in the moment and make a mistake but apparently the whole club is "racist" so since you've had plenty of players on sexual assault charges you must be a team full of rapists yeah?
@ci2763
@ci2763 Жыл бұрын
@@SEALZONE and your a crows flog yeah
@ci2763
@ci2763 Жыл бұрын
@@SEALZONE rapist 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@SEALZONE
@SEALZONE Жыл бұрын
@@ci2763 quite funny how thats your response and you can't say anything logical back. Just keep supporting your team that's always had a problem with sexual assault charges over many years and keep other teams out your mouth instead yeah?
@ci2763
@ci2763 Жыл бұрын
@@SEALZONE you ❤️ it 😝😝😝
@Yoyoo7
@Yoyoo7 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like this was mental training to bring out one's competitive nature and remove fear mentally, make you go faster & harder. I still don't see any issues however Adelaide lost that 2017 GF because clearly the team had plenty of soft 🐓 in that side. Lining up to have a cry to try get some compensation. So many european soccer teams do this. X factor is that 1% that makes you a winner.....
@imalwaysright
@imalwaysright Жыл бұрын
None of what they did would make them a tougher, better player. It is fake macho incel BS by crooks. Cult-like behavior. The organizers and enablers probably attend those secret KKK meetings and are deeply damaged. They are the antithesis of warrior-dom and masculinity.
@protagonist321
@protagonist321 Жыл бұрын
Yeah nah.
@kossend1
@kossend1 Жыл бұрын
You don't see an issue with using confidential information to bring up past trauma, not to mention sharing that confidential data with the wider group, which is completely inappropriate?
@magicjohnson3121
@magicjohnson3121 Жыл бұрын
@Kosdan no
@lappin6482
@lappin6482 Жыл бұрын
what a disaster....destroyed the club
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