“The Rainbow Nation Was a Scam” | Racism in SA, Eskom Crisis, SA Constitution, Gender Justice

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Жыл бұрын

Join SMWX for an inspiring and insightful conversation with activist and author Zulaikha Patel, as she shares her perspectives on the state of governance and gender justice in South Africa. In this episode, we delve into the myth of the rainbow nation, and the challenges of achieving true equality and justice in our society. We also discuss the role of the constitution in promoting gender rights, and the challenges that still remain. Don't miss this important conversation with one of South Africa's leading voices on social justice. Subscribe now to stay up to date with the latest discussions on South African current affairs.
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CONTENTS
00:01:29 "Rainbow nation"?
00:17:09 Racism's Effects
00:32:40 Studying law
00:46:04 Gender Justice
01:05:44 Credits
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About me: Dr Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh is an author, scholar and founder of the Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh Xperience (SMWX), a digital, youth-centred current affairs platform. He holds a DPhil in International Relations from the University of Oxford and is a Lecturer in International Relations at Wits.

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@Dinuzulu1879 Жыл бұрын

You can tell she has been through it. The pain never leaves unfortunately

@emmanuelmadi Жыл бұрын

It's crazy to think we saw this lady as a powerful force early in grade 8. Some things are not a coincidence

@_SMWX Жыл бұрын

True.

@itiswhatitis153 Жыл бұрын

Am sorry however you need to considerwhat you teaching your children then. Am black born in 75, was subjected to racism growing up. But I will NOT ALLOW MY Children to racially judge anyone. My children are very well aware that disrespect on any level to anyone is not allowed. Your behaviour is enabling the racial divide.

@suzygirl1843 Жыл бұрын

@@_SMWX Ignore white people. Problem fixed

@mlungisiottiesradebe8865 10 ай бұрын

@@itiswhatitis153😮

@sapnachopra6420 Жыл бұрын

I remember an emergency assembly being held and being told by our principal that the black students are now allowed afros. Didn’t know why all of a sudden this change was made and why the principal looked so scared, until I heard about this one girl who protested at pretoria girls high. This lady made such a big impact by her one protest and I hope she continues to impact this country positively. ❤

@bougzin Жыл бұрын

So glad to see more and more young voices come up and stand up. Thank you Sizwe of this platform and thank you Zulaikha for your bravery of speaking out even though there's a personal cost to you. We see you and wish you well!!!!

@_SMWX Жыл бұрын

🙌🏽

@RedcupsAndChats Жыл бұрын

We need to have more of these conversations as a youth.

@nomalingobese6162 Жыл бұрын

She is very brave and I hope she does not lose heart in speaking out. The South African system is so messed up. Most of the problems we see are simply symptoms of systemic racism. I am glad she called it out. Racial gaslighting is where we are. I experience this a lot when interacting with the older generations....both black and white.

@OGLechaba Жыл бұрын

I hope she’s surrounded by good mentors, she needs to be protected at all cost.

@MalibongweNombande Жыл бұрын

Thank u once again Hlubi. We really have to do more so that no young person should go through what this young lady has went through in modern day society. It's sad to learn that instead of being celebrated for her bravery to fight for African easthetic in Africa she is targeted and labed as an irritation. This nation has lost its mind

@lindim7569 Жыл бұрын

I've just watched this and very happy to have seen my two favourite young brilliant minds in one room. And Zulaika, that day of protest at school made history and many of us were so proud of your action at such a young age. I hope you don't get tired of talking about it because look, we still today associate certain women with the events that took place on 9th August 1956, and it could never be an interview without questioning them of the events of that day. You such a strong young lady and I wish you all the best in life.

@lebogangmatlala2359 Жыл бұрын

It’s been 7 years already 😮 power to the young lady ✊🏾✊🏾

@nonkolo_faith Жыл бұрын

As the first generation to go to a former model-c school, I am VERY conscious about what school I send my kids to. I immediately feel uncomfortable when I see a lot of white kids there, as I always felt uncomfortable growing up in these schools. I don't want that for my kids, but at the same time I want them to go to the best schools I can afford. Being at those schools is not nice and our parents will never understand because it was their way to give us everything they were denied to have.

@vut_zarco Жыл бұрын

As a white person I had the same fears for my children. There were racial incidents both ways. My son was one of 3 white players in the 1st rugby team and they gelled just like the springboks - it was beautiful.

@CybertronGangsta Жыл бұрын

Same here Nonko, and the emotional and mental effects of that is long lasting, it's unnatural. There are pro's and con's, but I know exactly what you mean.

@nhlanhlamkhwanazi5445 Жыл бұрын

"Rainbow 🌈 🏳️‍🌈 nation was a scam." Yes, I agree, and it was a bad metaphor for Tutu to describe/label us, South Africans. Why, because the colours of the rainbow dont bleed to each other. They run separately. The truth and the fact is, our colour is always going to be there. It's never gonna go away. That's who and what we are and what we were meant to be. We must acknowledge, accept, and respect each colour and work towards bleeding to each other. In the 80s, I was black ⚫️ and hated. In the middle 2000, through my now 18 year old son, I became brown and appreciated. And now, through my 9 year old daughter, I'm colour unconscious. She has many friends at school and aftercare. When chatting with them on the phone, she switches accent to accent effortlessly. It's only when I fetch her either from school or aftercare that I see she is a big part of a really beautiful colored picture/ artwork where colours bleed into each other. And through her, I see hope of a better future.

@outdoorpreppers4826 Жыл бұрын

If settlers never came to Africa, then Africa would never have had toilet paper and toilets.

@ichoosegodfromnowon847 Жыл бұрын

@@vut_zarco yah neh😮

@karabodemigod8309 Жыл бұрын

Bro we need more such discussions about our country,❤️🔥much appreciate the work...+ Subscriber gained

@mpumeleloshongwe5413 Жыл бұрын

We are not allowed to be sensitive at all. We are taught and expected to cope without necessities of life. The conditions of some of our schools, the poor service delivery, racism... Now we are being trained to live with loadshedding, inflation being higher than our salary increment We are trained not to ask for more but to survive with the bare minimum we are given. Sometimes when fighting for our rights, we are guilt tripped into feeling like an entitled generation...

@sakhilenene5979 Жыл бұрын

Prof. Lumumba once said those who have ideas are not in power and those who are in power have got no ideas. this woman has brains that can bring back self-love to Africans.

@Techguy_babyboy Жыл бұрын

I came straight from tik tok and all i can say is my sister you are one in a million. You are for keeps 🔥

@leeuwkgosing145 Жыл бұрын

Wow, didnt know Miss Patel, all I can say is WOW! I love her mind and her strong will. Wish her all the right things in life. This episode is one to watch with my young ones. I myself have learned a thing or two. I loved it!

@mosimarasesemola9446 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this conversation Sizwe and Zulaikha. Refreshing, relevant and inspiring. I hope Zulaikha really heals from the trauma induced by the experiences of racism she has and continues to encounter. The force of her activism is so important.

@_SMWX Жыл бұрын

Indeed

@yangamthuthi7360 Жыл бұрын

The political Consciousness within this platform and the esteem Guests , keep them coming King to unlock the mindset of our people within ... we give thanks and always tabbed in with the Gods Camangu,

@obi5025 Жыл бұрын

I really wish this was on main steam TV so it can reach more young people from all area of life. Nice studio amazing how honest this young lady is being.

@picassocube3521 Жыл бұрын

Mainstream media is controlled on the other side, so you won't get the truth from those channels. Newsroom Africa this deleted an interview on Eskom and state capture by Rutendo Matinyarare. You can now get it from oodez channel, titled 'got removed', or from Land Noli channel, both KZfaq channels

@soulrebel2006 Жыл бұрын

Young people aren’t watching Main Stream TV, this is the perfect platform to watch this message. Main Stream TV has been dead for years !!!

@Tumipoetmc Жыл бұрын

The world changes, revolutionaries die, and the. Children forget. 😞

@KwakhonaMahamba Жыл бұрын

we don't even cry😢😭about it no more.

@selbybopape23 Жыл бұрын

Our Beautiful Ones are Really Dead? i think this guest highlights how much We still have the beautiful minds, Powerful. That'smy though

@_SMWX Жыл бұрын

Legends in the building. 🙌🏽

@Mketsi2708 Жыл бұрын

...Sizilibele ukuthi sizalwa ngobani...

@loveandlight3486 Жыл бұрын

💯...🎶🎶🎶

@nhlanhlamkhwanazi5445 Жыл бұрын

This is the best show ever. You're a brilliant show host, son. Your choice of guests and subject matter is on the dot. And your guest today is phenomenal. She taught me some much-needed insights. Being born at KZN township in the 60s, during apartheid, spending my childhood in the rural Stanger, back in township in the late 80s at transitional time from Inkatha to ANC, PAC, etc was a mental slavery for me, with Bantu education, Christian and traditional indoctrination. I now live in a white dominated city/suburb. I have this daily constant unchaining of my mind and unbottling of myself, and you, my daughter, have contributed immensely to the process. Thank you very much. Thank you, host, and thank you, guest.

@_SMWX Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@mthemburosemary498 Жыл бұрын

Preach girl preach thank you that we still have young South African who can turn up the table

@andrewmakin8151 Жыл бұрын

she is describing reality as it is our SA is a brutal place she feels like an honour to the things steve biko tried to teach us to help us understand and grow from affinity, solidarity, what beautiful words. amazing level of self-awareness, as an individual within a super-complex collective. inspiring.

@zazasikhakhane6573 Жыл бұрын

What a well processed and polished gold! Painful as it is what you went through Zulaikha, I think it prepared you well to free and heal many many souls out there. Thank you for bravery and do have strength to conquer your past. The beautiful thing is that you are bigger and bolder than it. God bless you 🤲

@Kaola730 Жыл бұрын

This had me thinking about the type of questions one gets when applying for job. "Do you have a car?", "Do you have a laptop?" 🤔. Statistically speaking, I don't know any black people that have a car after going to tertiary.

@lesedi3040 Жыл бұрын

Right 😢

@nandiphanonkwelo9732 Жыл бұрын

Great guest again, thank you Sizwe.

@luntubongo8439 Жыл бұрын

What an insightful conversation! Patel had a rough time growing up and attending so-called white-only schools. Thanks to Penuel, I know about this informative podcast. We need more conversations like this one.

@hlamzar Жыл бұрын

What a wonderful piece, S/O to Zulaikha. One thing i remember which coincides with her reflection on gender injustice w.r.t. political spaces is when there was a conversation about GBV in parliament and the allegation that Ramaphosa abuses his wife was made as an attempt to shut him up or to humble him and let him know he has skeletons. The fact that it was used as a weapon and the victim's pain,trauma or justice was not taken into account, i never forgot that day because it was abhorrent

@ndumisocamngca4738 Жыл бұрын

I'm really impressed with Sizwe's interaction with Zulaikha. She will learn a lot from him as a refined academic.

@moremogolomoremogolo5328 Жыл бұрын

Another awesome interview. Zoleka is a gem. Siswe, you doing so great 🙌please give your guests some water to drink as more than 30mins is long.

@mpumelelodlodlo5950 Жыл бұрын

Sizwe this really shows how bad humans treat each other in this world 😔😞😢😠😤, anyway thank you so much again 4 this 1👌🏿👏🏽and your guest 🙏🏽💯🔥 salute.

@NkosiMlambo Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the inspiring interviews. Sometimes I switch between the podcast and KZfaq as nothing beats seeing facial expressions when some things are mentioned.

@JohnThomas-li2vi Жыл бұрын

As an African American man in America listening to this in 2023 pains my heart. These different African political parties has no other choose but to come together and mastermind an intelligent powerful, visionary plan for the future of South Africa or your done. And for me to hear about the Klu Klux Klan incident which terrorized the African American nation through our history in America just blew my mind. In a majority African country they should be afraid to even think about that. I just wish I could transport 50 million African American people to South Africa with the back up of the the rest of the majority of black South Africa, I guarantee you, situations would change overnight. Peace and love family

@_SMWX Жыл бұрын

🙏🏽🙌🏽

@JohnThomas-li2vi Жыл бұрын

@@_SMWX And it shall be young, intelligent, forward thinking soldiers like yourself who shall issue in the new world South African order that I see rising on the horizon. I know it seems bleak there, but that how it always look, before the storm of new creativity takes place.

@bakergovender3291 Жыл бұрын

How is that peace and love when you advocating violence.

@yvonnemarais7671 Жыл бұрын

Sort out your YSA . Do not need USA opinions here.

@ahmadmasike6834 Жыл бұрын

@@yvonnemarais7671 your scared settler, this is Africa not Europe

@merciamaritz8728 Жыл бұрын

I agree 💯. There never was a rainbow nation. Indeed a scam.

@teemukwamba2749 Жыл бұрын

"You can never maker liberators governors." How poignant, she nailed it. This is the root cause of the Zimbabwean failure.

@oratile7205 Жыл бұрын

I enjoyed listening to Zulaikha. Thank you Dr Sizwe

@bisabop976 Жыл бұрын

All I can say Zulaikha is you are a beautiful sensitive soul and I respect you my child. Please God protect her.

@celimbokazi5811 Жыл бұрын

the level of intelligence of this young adult blows my mind, honestly

@_SMWX Жыл бұрын

💯

@tibbydudeza Жыл бұрын

As compared to the likes of Gwede and Fikile - lordie we are led by morons.

@Clayzzy Жыл бұрын

After listening to this awesome young lady and hearing her thoughts on growing up in SA, I have hope for the future of our beautiful country...As a fellow South African she is absolutely amazing and I am so sorry for what she went through for been mixed race... Just want to salute her for standing up against systemic racism because it's real and breathing in SA. I thoroughly enjoyed this interview and to hear a young South Africans views on the state of our politics in our country. Thank you so much!

@sthembisojwara4897 Жыл бұрын

We will get there I have hope when I listen to such interviews

@taunyanedicksonramajoe5467 Жыл бұрын

Oh my God as youth I believe that SA youth is more than capable to prove the current government that when United nothing is impossible, if the SA Youth can blow up Tik Tok and make headlines surely we can stand up against any regime that doesn't serve any of our interests. What a beautiful interview I have hope that Southa is in great hands 🚀💯🎉

@phumlanindlovu5653 Жыл бұрын

39:52 "Our liberators can not be our governs" Im 34 and that hit me so hard😭💔

@rushnande3731 Жыл бұрын

Racism isn't causing the failure of state but massive incompetence and corruption. If you can make everybody rich and educated, racism would be very minimal. I experienced racism in Mpumalanga highveld to the point where I don't care about it anymore I never believed racism was the biggest issue in this country, biggest issue? It's bad governmence.

@_SMWX Жыл бұрын

I don’t believe we should ignore racism. But yes the government is also a major problem. She did say so in the interview.

@lesedi3040 Жыл бұрын

Racism being pervasive in south afrika is the root of all problems, simple ☺️ if we can hold white ppl accountable for their past actions, maybe just maybe we won't have our leaders being their puppets at our expense

@mduduzimhlabathi7146 Жыл бұрын

Zulaikha for President.. All day!🙏🏽👌🏽

@nandipenxa3274 Жыл бұрын

She spoke for us at a young age. She was able to articulate what we were not. We thank you for that. Our kids are going to school much more free and able to wear their black hair with pride. Lol and many white schools have taken stance to not speak on Black hair at all. Good stance. They know what's good for them. Go Zu!

@_SMWX Жыл бұрын

🙏🏽

@suzygirl1843 Жыл бұрын

@@_SMWX Black and Coloured South Africans need to stop giving whites so much power

@Dinuzulu1879 Жыл бұрын

Who is this brilliant young lady. What a wonderful interview. ❤

@mamthembudobie8795 Жыл бұрын

❤❤love her. You speak for us all

@nkululekomseleku3750 Жыл бұрын

Someone needs to make a movie about this child's life. It would inspire many girl/young women, and women in general

@erikaoosthuysen5550 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for a beautiful and honest conversation.

@thembi9645 Жыл бұрын

You made a difference and we thank you my love ❤

@muthusimakhani36 Жыл бұрын

Great interview, very informative

@franklinbrown5625 7 ай бұрын

Greetings from jamaica. Want to say how awesome this sister is.

@vimbextube7905 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Sizwe. Thanks Zulaika. I often wondered what happened to you. And i always asked if one of the actresses on House of Zwide was you. U re special... love you!

@vumanimduduzidlamini366 Жыл бұрын

Powerful and very insightful ❤🔥🔥

@_SMWX Жыл бұрын

🙌🏽

@mzothulemsezane2703 Жыл бұрын

wow ,what a great interview, I have so much respect for your Guest Sizwe, to be honest Abelungu BayaseNyanya nje,they don't like us at all,they can't even pretend their hatred towards us

@happym3585 Жыл бұрын

Powerful conversation ayeye 🔥

@_SMWX Жыл бұрын

Ayeye!

@manthodiramokgatla9939 Жыл бұрын

Great content as always.

@_SMWX Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@phelelanimafuleka3854 Жыл бұрын

Great interview and opinionated young lady..Sizwe, please help. I wish to meet Adv. Dali Mpofu SC and Adv. Thembeka Ngcukaitobi has so much admiration and inspiration for these gentlemen. Meeting them in person, not necessarily for a conversation, would be a realization of my biggest dream in life. Kindly assist me, my brother.. I beg your pardon if my request sounds inappropriate.

@mangiemorgan2828 Жыл бұрын

This was a very good episode. I am glad we are reflecting on where we are - really something I will be pondering. I don't agree that we need to go back to Codesa because I don't see the outcomes of it on the ground - sunset clause is over hyped. We struggle to make the hard decision everyday. We take the corporate jobs and raise our kids in silence.

@lesedi3040 Жыл бұрын

Right 😢 oksalayo white ppl have to be held accountable for the racism they continue to perpetuate and the fact that they teach their kids such😮

@bigthangz5489 Жыл бұрын

this girl is a great thinker ❤❤❤❤

@ntsikimpela1902 Жыл бұрын

Wow Zulaikha Patel on the minutes of CODESA spot on my lady

@mondentleko8735 6 ай бұрын

Sabc must have dedicated channel for podcasts like this. Not sensors nor edited to serve as reservoir of wisdom from ordinary people

@Makhaya101 Жыл бұрын

she has so much potential to be a leader of society, she must stay level headed

@tholwanabutelezi8954 7 ай бұрын

Zulaikha is the real business.... from the opening of the interview she's been tackling real issues. These young people need to be given the platform as agents of change, they telling it as it is. We have to do away with pensioners in parliament next year, 2024 IS THE NEW 1994!

@mfanakithi2002 Жыл бұрын

Nice conversation here. Keen to see you talking to Prof Phakeng soon.. both of you and the background you both have with UCT.

@_SMWX Жыл бұрын

Have invited her.

@alanlouisjohnhicks8564 Жыл бұрын

Lovely lady you have struggled with racism, I hear you. Keep speaking out.

@_SMWX Жыл бұрын

🙏🏽

@phumlani54 Жыл бұрын

Your show is an institution continue doing a good work. Aluta continua

@_SMWX Жыл бұрын

🙌🏽🙌🏽

@phillipdube2016 Жыл бұрын

Sad indeed and I hope she keeps making the difference.

@lungamasuku6872 Жыл бұрын

Please go Vote Bro!!!!,i love it!!!❤

@_SMWX Жыл бұрын

😄

@smangalisondlovu5847 Жыл бұрын

SMWX is an INSTITUTION!!!🙌

@_SMWX Жыл бұрын

🙌🏽🙌🏽

@alignwiththeuniverse1516 Жыл бұрын

The level of articulation projected by this young woman gives me hope that there is a future in South Africa, these pockets of excellence the apartheid government legacy managed to cultivate (however belligerent) will ensure the country transitions into a new dawn that brings light to those who are still deep in the hole underprivilege has dug for us. Lead!

@ronm4385 Жыл бұрын

We have enough talkers in South Africa. Not enough doers though...

@alignwiththeuniverse1516 Жыл бұрын

@@ronm4385 What have you, in your personal capacity done Ron?

@ronm4385 Жыл бұрын

@@alignwiththeuniverse1516 For starters I never ever allow any racism to be perpetrated in my presence, I don't care who you are and where I am be it at a rugby match or cricket game. Secondly as much as my kids go to a private school but I speak to them in vernacular and get them a private tutor so they can never look down on their own indigenous language and culture. Very important. Other than that I just try to be a positive productive law abiding tax paying citizen of this country. It's nothing revolutionary but we really need to get the basics right in this country before entertaining pie in the sky Lofty aspirations.

@kwanelebam470 Жыл бұрын

WOW! 🙌🙌🙌

@neommutle8033 Жыл бұрын

Who's child is this, she is 100% Correct! My dear speaking from the older generation, many of us a traumatized, by apartheid, and we are very much ashamed to admit it, hence we don't speak out about racism, we choose to just survive. The day I will say racism in South Africa is gone is when, I see white people fight for something, except complain about the government or loadshedding. I mean truly stand up and fight for an issue. Then the question is what issue do they have? Great show again Dr Sizwe 👏

@TheBout96 Жыл бұрын

He who educates u is ur master... we need a parallel education system which is Afrocentric. That's how black people will rise to eternal control/power of their narrative/world perception

@francoiswilliams Жыл бұрын

How?

@TheBout96 Жыл бұрын

@@francoiswilliams parallel history classes very important... african geography very important life science from an African perspective then build enterprises/businesses african tourism african healing etc. Its a reality not fantasy, we can build an afro centric reality

@francoiswilliams Жыл бұрын

@@TheBout96 Africa is extremely varied...

@TheBout96 Жыл бұрын

@@francoiswilliams meaning we can flip one product a 1000 times which is great for any business instead of British/American concentration which limits other parts, in this case Africa, from participating in their culture of business/product

@lehlohonolomogadime6161 19 күн бұрын

Nice one Sizwe.

@realdudevision2746 Жыл бұрын

3:44 What are we responsible for as black people. Will we ever believe that we are the masters of our own destiny? 50:45 we were told "this is not a Taxi rank" 😄

@bonolomakgatadeluent3150 Жыл бұрын

She's been natural ever since I saw her back in the days, when she was in the news. I was about to lose hope on black beauty

@Mketsi2708 Жыл бұрын

"We have crime, GBV, corruption, eskom, etc problems in this country" 🤣classic response from the evil racists!!! You're hitting the nerve my girl👌bua!

@tashansofwa2426 Жыл бұрын

But is that not true? We do have crime, GBV, corruption, unemployment all of which our black government is doing nothing to fix.

@Mketsi2708 Жыл бұрын

@@tashansofwa2426 it's true, but it doesn't render the racial problem as a secondary problem. They all are in coexistence.

@lindiwekubu8846 Жыл бұрын

She’s got a beautiful mind. S,you also a good host!

@_SMWX Жыл бұрын

🙏🏽

@thisiscolbert3007 Жыл бұрын

This is educational ❤❤❤

@_SMWX Жыл бұрын

👍🏽

@brainftv Жыл бұрын

Smart, beautiful, black, and young. Our future is in safe hands.

@youngatheart74 Жыл бұрын

SMWX intro sound is the best

@_SMWX Жыл бұрын

Thanks I produced it myself. 🙂

@youngatheart74 Жыл бұрын

@@_SMWX Wow! that's even doper!

@samorankente9161 Жыл бұрын

And crazy enough these are also toxic spaces that we find ourselves at school, at work and in business. Kanti what did we do as Black people? Zulaikha is a strong and powerful young lady, and she will definitely contribute to the betterment of this toxic country.

@alexandermathews9710 Жыл бұрын

much love yall in SA! one thing i see about black folks. black folk know how to dress well!!

@ellishaindobo1794 Жыл бұрын

Lets Go!

@_SMWX Жыл бұрын

Ayeye!

@onlyeverydaysa5029 Жыл бұрын

Preach we are all very tired and feeling like things really are going south. Young people are trying but being blocked in spaces and positions that can effect change or let me say spaces that have budgets to implement change. Yoh.

@sizwezulu3604 5 ай бұрын

Wow u nailed it about “”liberators should not govern “ bcos we have to pay them back and they uphold succession politics. Not what is good for the country.

@Lokicool228 Жыл бұрын

the Codessa meeting needs to be reviewed... i agree with Zulaika

@LOUDTVnetwork Жыл бұрын

*PROTECT ZULAIKHA AT ALL COSTS* ! 🔥🙌🏆❤️🇿🇦

@_SMWX Жыл бұрын

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@tibbydudeza Жыл бұрын

She should stay away from politics - as we have seen in S.A , it somehow turns well-meaning good, intended people into the worst.

@mphomthombeni3670 11 ай бұрын

Black kids go to former model c schools "at the cost of their mental health"...that's psychological damage right there! I've heard this put by Nhlanhla Lux before. And it got me concerned then and it gets me worried now. One question for Black South Africans: Why don't we create our own black things of a similar or better quality to the white owned spaces that end up leaving us traumatised?

@salomegoosen9116 9 ай бұрын

What great words you speak! This young girl is a perfect example of always wanting to have what white people have. She has no tribal pride. Typically black - look at what white people achieved and then wanting that, fight to have it, take it over and it goes to ruins. 30 years have already passed. I have not heard about a university or school started by black people, being so good and well run that white people are eager to attend. No! Always want what the white people have.

@quintuswilliamson5262 Жыл бұрын

Good and informative conversation guys thanks …. Just a quick observation, you have excessively highlighted the problems, you have even identified your “true enemy” and say “they look like you”, you have spoken about “gate keepers” who wants to keep everything for themselves, you have indicated that the “liberators” shouldn’t be in government … so given this entrenched knowledge by yourselves where the true problems lie …. Why are you as young people (and really the future of our country) so afraid to change you voting strategy … This country needs a new and younger breed of leaders … Break the chains of the “liberators ideologies” that is keeping you captured … stand together and unite as the younger generation of our country (doesn’t matter your race) and make your vote count in 2024! … Place your vote for change where it can truly lead in a new era for you as young people and everyone else in South Africa …. Once again thanks for the good conversation, much appreciated.

@johnmpandaguta3289 Жыл бұрын

Zulaikha I have thought about it too..with the governance & entitlement parts of post colonial Africa... I think I have grasped that our leaders suffer from self hate.. they never recovered from the imbalances of colonial history..and I like to call them colonials or as Kwame Nkurumah called it neo colonials so basically colonialism never left it's still fully there...and the continent suffers from little creations called neo colonial state.. so we still living in colonialism at this point.. and it's time for a revolution.

@JayWilliams310876 Жыл бұрын

Her points are extremely valid. There are nuances in every point, that have multiple causes. Racism has a material impact on the majority of our people. Yet we have had laws to challenge and control active prejudices. How is it that schools in poor areas lack resources? How is it that townships are only developed After residents protest? When POC move into suburbs that have always had prejudices, they still face stereotyping. A multifaceted approach was always required to fully ensure that the mental and psychological safety of POC is not just kept in crisis. But we get distracted because individually we go out to make a living. We're not always campaigning. POC face workspaces with toxic behaviour head-on. We face spaces where our own POC also victimise us. So I do agree with your speaker's criticism. And I believe we must maintain many ways of awareness to call-out prejudice and racism.

@lesedi3040 Жыл бұрын

She is so right, education is deserved by everyone, especially black children

@fatimaahmed5347 Жыл бұрын

Hi. There's only one race. Is the human race. Not a rainbow nation. Ma Afrika. Thank you

@bekelihleshezi582 Жыл бұрын

When voting, who do we vote in power because there are no young condidates /participants in parties that are appointed to lead. So wish people like Sizwe Mpofu, Penuel Mlotshwa and Nhlanhla lux were in the list of people to vote in power (definitely I would vote too)

@treasuremhlanga7279 Жыл бұрын

You need to take yourself serious Shezi

@christinemarnewick2847 4 ай бұрын

Sizwe, race is really very real in our daily life. My granddaughter is in a school that the majority of the children are african kids. My granddaughter is being ostracized by african girls because she cant talk their language. She doesn't want go to school. So I feel for the youth today. This just is the tip of the iceberg. I'm so sorry for her and other children's experiences.

@fabinasetati8736 Жыл бұрын

Inspired - Trailblazers...The Hallmark Of Leadership. So Noble...

@simplejunior7911 Жыл бұрын

We need to stop blaming white people alone for all of our problems. Case in point, her example of black people still living in poverty. I agree that this is in-part a legacy problem of apartheid BUT we need to drag the black led government into taking responsibility for the continuation of this problem as well. Almost 30 years after democracy and the problem hasn't improved ? We cannot absolve the ANC from being responsible for black people's problems today. Furthermore, as the black community, we need to personally take responsibility for some of the issues that affect us (alcoholism, fatherless households, gender based violence etc). These are issues that we must solve for ourselves. Nobody is going to solve them for us. We need to stop treating ourselves with kid-gloves and be honest with ourselves. If you are a true student of Biko, then you will understand that he was all for black people solving black people's problems.

@tibbydudeza Жыл бұрын

Yes at some stage we got to own it. Reminds me of a twitter argument I had about somebody complaining about the city because they got no power as the cables got stolen again - told her community must own up and protect their area - they probably know who these scum that it doing this but do not report it - it is easier to blame else than to organize for example like a neighborhood watch like they do in my mainly white suburb. What happened to the street committees (not all of it was bad) in the 80's ??? Seems we have become rather docile sheep since 94.

@_SMWX Жыл бұрын

I don’t think she absolved the government at all. She was just as hard-hitting on the ANC. We can do both at the same time, in my view.

@bakergovender3291 Жыл бұрын

Her references to most black youth at the township are the ones that are suffering is correct. Simple reason Africans are the majority Certainly they are the ones that are suffering.

@imushomutonga1621 Жыл бұрын

Poverty was created and some people accumulated so much wealth and aren't prepared to share. Policies that are meant to address this abnormalities are frowned upon by the haves and regardless of what the government tries to bridge this gap it's accused of reversed racism. Most unfortunately some people think because the ANC is in power, suddenly there's equality.

@tibbydudeza Жыл бұрын

@@imushomutonga1621 The ANC thought that govt power translates into economic power which worked in Malaysia to improve the lot of the Malays against the Chinese. Then we got ANC BEE and selected few that benefited and tendepreneurs. It was so laughable - our company was "sold" to a black group - faces changed on the website and we got a funky African name. BUt nothing changed - middle management was still mostly white and blacks were still the janitorial staff and we never saw our "owners" except to collect dividends.

@nomazizizembe8662 Жыл бұрын

Shes right im a xhosa south African who stay in township all her life shes spot on the democracy is not working for us the poor im talking as a black south african who is stsying in a racist state.