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RL russian CV: .... WG russian CV : Bringer of Doom

@@nicolaspeigne1429 Ahah

@@nicolaspeigne1429 russian navy in general besides the subs

WG, as it were, hints that you need not to love America, but you need to love WG )))

Like a nice red wine. I SAY AU REVOIR TO YOUR FLIGHT OF PLANES AND YOU SMELL OF ELDERBERRIES AND YOUR FATHER WAS A HAMTSTER.

It's like fighting cancer with cancer

If plane kills actually gave rewards CV players would actually go for AS play styles again. But seeing as plane kills give next to nothing for rewards and you have to sacrifice ALOT to even make fighters useable only reason to make a AS build is memes.

@@neogoterra WG had taken steps to make plane kills more rewarding on the last patch, so lets hope AS focused CV gets more love in the future.

@@Yurobeat I hope so CVs wouldn't be so hated if they was shifted to more a support and defense role, that and I miss the days of AS cancer cvs.

That's it, I am convinced i need it now

Washboard did her best. But I can relate having 2x as much exp as the second guy on the losing team :)

Ah, i want baguette CVs in WoWs legends now

That would be really interesting ! But the main problem is the lack of real design, especially for tiers 4, and since technically Béarn was the only real one :/ ( But still… a Foch/Clemenceau as Super-carriers would be… muhahah )

@@loco141r3 Foch? Clémenceau? Pfft. Charles de Gaulle, nuclear propulsion and armament for maximal balans

@@loco141r3 They have made up soooo many ships already. Inventing a few french CVs would be no real challenge for them. After all they did that with the KM line as well.

@@andreasmuller4666 well, that was crap… But looks like WG threw away historical accuracy since a long time

I wait for Nimitz class carriers and f 14 tomcats

@@JM-fz8vj F-35 Lightning patch

The modt historically inacurzte part is that the Bearn is not even a proper aircraft carrier. Or rather it transported planes, thats it, launching them was already going too far ^^ Tier 6 ah aight

*"is that CV's shit on everyone else"* hum... nope

@@Freedmoon44 I meant in terms of gameplay the sheer power of carriers was the only thing that corresponds with reality, most of the ships are paper anyway and balistics dont work like that in real life

UK cvs (especially the HMS Flying Conqueror, Audacious) are a Dresden bombing per strike. Slower planes, but more HP. German T10 cv planes have HALF the hp the Audacious does. Hell the Kaga has tankier bombers than the T10 germans. Oh, and the UK torp bombers have a gimmick where they concentrate instead of spread.

Bearn absolutely shits on people though

UK gimmick is being forced to swallow what should’ve been the USN one (slow, tanky planes with stupid amounts of ordnance) because the idea actually sucks in practice. There’s too many Ameritards to milk for money by making USN shit broken.

@@orangedream267 Yeah, the UK CV gimmick is level flying carpet bombing HE.

You more or less can get a good strike in with the cv strafe bombers against everything even with the area being saturated in AA fire so it's the fdr your mom has at home for you.

What da Juice doin

I'm dead.

Oh my god me too. People used to get so fucking mad when they realized you were rocking a fighter loadout.

Yeah or you were good enough and destroyed them with ranger full damage Loadout. Both of those were quite strong in the old days but you at least had some counter potential. 1st You could be deplaned 2nd Def AA was very dangerous and cruisers and DDs were difficult targets so teaming up with them in a CV was always an option 3rd they weren't as op as the new CVs what actually is a surprise because you could easily break 150k with Ranger at tier 7 ^^

While I would agree, the Bogue is dead. The Bogue is dead, long live the Bogue!

It's back sort of, US Support CVs have improved air patrol fighters and smokes so take it as you will.

Yes the Spy is hilarious.

"too powerful" literally more powerful now than any ship has ever been ever

it's better when you understand french XD

I hope not, because by doing so you sacrifice a ton of damage dealing tho, so it's balanced.

It's not effective now except against CV captains who are unable to move the hull...

She sacrifices a lot of damage output for these fighter planes, and they're only effective against potato CVs who dont know how to press the recall button. And the hull is tanky solely because of her atrocious speed and concealment. Bearn is VERY far from OP and it's not a video that's gonna change anything about it.

CV? Nerf? wut?

@@Axel23410 Franky, Yuro makes anything look OP ha. Can't balance a ship off a few super players. Not that the ships OP, as you stated. Might be fun though. Fun? In a video game? Madness, I know.

I remember playing that shit

AS_BOGUE_IS_ASS_CANCER wasn't just a meme, it was a way of life.

@@OmegaReaver yeah, Always Seal-Clubbed back then in Bogue for fun, and Credits

AS Bouge was my feel better ship, so many time I would have tier IV CVs just quit to port when they saw me

Oh yea has a CV player I hated to play that ship like like the amount of planes they carry is pathetic so I skipped it with free xp 😒

The days where you could actually deny an enemy CV a strike instead of doing a damage race against them.

@@a_stone and the day you can actually protect your friendly ship with fighters , making escorting a ship as cv a reality (i got so many thanks and compliments with just breaking enemy cv torpedoes anvil attack and closing bombing run on friendly battleships and destroyers, i actually enjoy more supporting as a cv back when RTS cv is still a thing)

Except not really, because it's still just an automatic consumable drop. There's no thought or strategy really needed for it, you see an enemy squadron in the air, you drop a fighter consumable and watch them eat the opponents planes. At least in the old RST carrier days you had to think about how to disperse your fighter squadrons, where to engage their fighters and bombers, weigh the benefits of trying to destroy the enemy carriers fighters to gain air superiority versus the benefits of targeting their bombers to defend your teammates. All while also trying to micro your own bombers with manual drops and cross drops and avoiding US ships with their stacked AA. This is the poor mans recreation of that interaction, essentially just: 1) Push button. 2) Profit.

Man, I miss my Air Superiority RTS CVs. If WG implement AS build again maybe I'll play CVs again (haven't played one for years since the rework)

Beep beep beep! Oh man, I didn't expect it F'in classic

me seing the devblog : grinding for 1 week ranked to get the few doublons I was missing to get it

Aaah good old plasti-crack. I think I still have the old grey pickle too, haven’t played a game in years since my friend moved away.

dovbleg. That is all.

yay War at Sea, it got me into collecting 1/1800th scale warships.

Bearn is strong only in the hands of a good player, otherwise the gimmick of OP fighters becomes useless, and it's impossible to hit cits with the dive bombs. It has a pretty high skill floor, and as Yuro demonstrated here, has an even higher skill ceiling.

@@weabootrash5891 so like most if not all french ship? Powerfull as hell, but requires skills to match ?

we all wish for RTS CV....

What your asking for is the old school RTS gameplay

Funnily enough, the RTS CVs already did that. People cried about it because there was a select group of players that took the time and energy to main CVs, get really good at it, and they tended to dominate games. WGs response was to turn CVs into what they are now, taking away 90% of the skill and removing what made CVs truly entertaining and satisfying to play. The fact that there are players that don't even remember the RTS CVs is kinda saddening, not gonna lie.

What is RTS?

@@Freedom621 Real Time Strategy. The old carrier format was a top down screen that allowed you to select and command multiple fighter and bomber squadrons with the mouse and keyboard similar to games like Command and Conquer and StarCraft.

Improvise, adapt, overcome. Thats how Cancer works

It's pure war crime :D

It would cause a paradox since they dont wanna nerf CVS but in the other hand it nullifies the state sponsored aerial cancer ™️ so maybe they will attempt to

@@aimilize3518 well its a trend whenever yuro shows something that works too well

No, no....considering this 'exploit' requires the enemy CV to be dumb enough not to move his hull... I'd say the solution is to allow MORE of this type of air defense shenanigans...

I mean, yeah. The AI fighters have to be stupidly powerful or they would be completely useless and no one would use them. This is WG's poor man attempt to reintroduce some kind of meaningful interaction between CVs that doesn't come down to just racing against each other to see who stacks up more damage over the course of the game. But they can't do it the old way because that was RTS CVs, and as everyone screamed for years, RTS CVs bad, no want challenging RTS CVs! Well, now you have CVs that take 10% of the skill to use, have no way of meaningfully interacting with the enemy CV outside of bombing them, and now there's a French CV gimmick where you push a button and get to bully the enemy CV for free completely automatically. This is what the people wanted, this is what they got.

@@cah11111 The hard part about RTS CV was that the fighters wehere not only very useful against enemy planes, but in the hands of a skilled player your team gained several sets of eyes. And since planes are faster than Boats, and can go over islands, running away was hard, this got so far that in CW it was more important for a carrier to run recon than to do damage. the current situations is not good, but the old one where if you where against the top 5% and you had no chance was also not very good. in conclusion: speed is king, for spotting.

@@DerErsteWilhelm Sure, but I would argue that WG did not, in good faith, do anything substantial to try to balance the old RTS CVs because their dedicated player base was so small. Instead they went right for the rework option which then lead to a whole bunch of other balance issues that still persist to this day.

@@cah11111 As a former RTS CV main, agreed. We were a small group, and an ignored one. Examples: Our consensus was that Graf Zeppelin was bad in the first iteration, and needed a bit of rework. The graf got an update, but WG decided to release the original, bad iteration. This resulted in full fledged no questions asked refunds, a company first insofar as I'm aware. Our consensus was that AP bombs were a dreadful addition to the game that made things unfun for German BB's specifically. RNG determined what your results were even more so than the tilt introducing USN HE bombs. They were shoved in anyway. Our consensus was that removing manual attacks for lower tier carriers wouldn't make them less brutally overpowered, it just left Tier 5 carriers at the mercy of Tier 6 carriers and wouldn't teach newbies anything actually useful until they hit the skill wall at Tier 6. Our consensus was that tier 4 had brutally over the top alpha damage - For instance, Hosho had the same number of torps that dealt the same damage as the Shokaku *at tier 8*. Nothing got done with it. Our consensus was the action CV would solve nothing. It just gave everyone strike decks while toning down AA to useless levels for people that know how to dodge flak. Now look where we are today.

funny that chemo is just another cancer

its not chemo. its another cancer.

@@sprolyborn2554 cancer to cancer, while the effects to the rest is minimal. Fair trade

@@Freedmoon44 the effects to the rest aren't "minimal" at all. It's a CV. Not only that, it's low tier. Meaning NOBODY out there has any AA.

The problem is that interceptor fighters cannot engage (or be engaged by!) other fighters, including *other interceptors*. So a Bearn v Bearn scenario devolves to whoever can get their interceptor lock over the enemy first, as the only way to shoot down interceptors is via (the very underwhelming) AA firepower.

dont forget, every time you queue up in a CV, you make 22 other players miserable for having to be in a CV game.

@@sprolyborn2554 Just make sure the red CV is dead, then drive into the center. Who cares if you get reported? All that matters is that you got rid of their cv

the super carrier absolutely murder enemy planes with fighters tho. their fighters agro 50% faster and are inescapable because they are jets. its pretty funny to use.

Unless you park your fighters before the red CV. An area their planes HAVE to fly through when they launch. (dunno if thats posssible with higher Tier CVs and their much better AA)

​@@Legendendear 1-you're expending all your captain points and resources on fighter build at the expense of offense. For a CV, offense is everything. I have never seen defense style work against non-potatoes. 2-The interceptors will still be taken down by AA fire. Yes it takes a while against Bearn but in the mean time Bearn is also doing nothing 3-Bearn is slow. So you're using all your time harassing enemy CV. 4-This will never work against a skilled, patient player who understands what's happening, i.e. a non-potato.

You can also boost out of the fighter bubble. Its not hard to avoid if you're not half asleep, a mild annoyance if you're a seasoned CV main. But not all T6 CVs have fast planes and Bearn 3.6km fighter bubble is harder to avoid. If you got locked by the fighters and pressed F you're starting on the CV again and wasted time. If you avoided Bearn fighters then congrats, but said Bearn wouldn't loiter around either (and chances are its on your flank so he gets the earlier spotting) Its not AS Bouge level cheesing but its the closest it ever been while still maintaining "variety". Then again we're not short on Potatoes on T6 so why not ))

@@blusafe1 Yeah. I know all that. I just long for a way to take out my revenge on a CV :( And I dont care if my offensive abilities are non existend as long as I can torture the red CV for the whole match. But sadly such a way doesnt exist... 😕

Probably because the ship is actually complete dogshit unless the enemy CV player is blind or has fewer than two brain cells so he can’t see your fighter bubble.

@@GintaPPE1000 "complete dogshit" Friend, cope more.

What you mean changing CVs from he RTS format and removing 90% of the skill needed to competently play them didn't make the ship better to fight against? I'm shocked let me tell you, shocked!

I use the carrier to destroy the carrier

I will consider doing that when I get to play United States

The special squads take too long to reload for that to work more than once or twice. Also the fighters summoned by both the special and regular squads for United States and Eagle only last 20s specifically to prevent total shutdown of the other carrier.

I play my CVs in ranked... Fair Winds and Following Seas, target.

@@dclark142002 Grrrrrrrrrr.... 😡😤

Shut up and take my money!