Sean Price was a major force in keeping real hip-hop alive from 2005-2015. Truly a shame he was not around to see this resurgence.

Roc Marciano is too underated

I still credit Alc and Madlib for preserving that underground sound. I myself have been making beats since 2005 when everyone wanted to get on the radio. Roc was one of my biggest influences from the U.N. and Flipmode days.

I've been following Roc since he was in flipmode. He definitely kept the lights on in the house of boom bap. He didn't do it alone though... you gotta give guys like Planet Asia, Evidence, Sean P(RIP), DOOM(RIP), ALCHEMIST, MUGGS, Madlib, and too many more to mention credit as well.

Crazy thing about this video is that it only covers Roc Marciano’s PRODUCTION. Could do an entirely separate video highlighting his lyricism. He’s really in a class of his own.

I think all these elements can be traced back to Wu-Tang in early / mid 90s, they just weren't as prominent in 00s. The gritty minimalism of Marcberg reminded me a bit of some stuff from Tical by Method Man which I loved.

Every time Navie does a video on boombap, I get so inspired to cook a boombap beat up! I actually look forward to Tuesdays to make a beat. lol Good work, Navie! We appreciate tf out of you. At least, I do. Cheers.

It's crazy to me that Roc was considered to have had basically zero buzz at the time Marcberg dropped. When that came out, I had been eagerly waiting for a Roc Marciano album for an entire decade at that point.

Roc Marciano is the one who saved Hip-Hop by bringing back RZA's 90's drumless sound!When I listened to Marcberg i understood that this man will possibly bring the renaissance of the quality and authentic Hip Hop sound and style.His aesthetic is unbeatable.If you like Roc you must also listen to KA.He is low key but he is a legend with this Hempstead grimey sound and lyrical genious rhymescheme.Word.

Kudos to you for shining a light on Roc Marciano....he is absolutely the godfather of modern boom bap. To give Griselda their credit, he is featured on multiple early tracks by them as well.

Great video. Props for recognizing Roc Marciano, alot of us real hiphop heads were rocking with Marci before Griselda

Not to flex or anything but I immediately knew you were talking about Roc Marciano! Also, Ka is another one who helped re-pave that path. Although technically he’s been around since the 90s as a part of Natural Elements. If y’all don’t know about him, look him up. He’s also a Brooklyn firefighter, so an IRL hero

The part about Grimey sampled beats with synths has been around & were gaining momentum since the 2000's in the Underground. El-P, Necro, Stoupe, as well as producers who worked with Army Of The Pharaohs, etc.

Roc Marciano did a track with Griselda when Griselda first hit the scene. They know Marciano was the inventor.

Roc Marci is Rakim of that Era. His flow is untouchable. His beats too. He has a complex simplicity, I dont know how to describe it

Madlib, Doom, Dilla and the likes did this way, way back! 🤘

It was him and also KA, the Grief Pedigree album is maaad underrated💯💯💯

"And if we being frank, I created this lane, if you hatin' then eat a frank." - Roc Marci

I first heard of Roc Marci when "Petestrumentals" dropped in 2001 and he was rapping with his crew (the UN) on two tracks. He laid down the last verse on the last track (called Cake) and i knew nothing about this dude except that shit was ill as fuck and insanely effortless sounding. That alone let me know he was on another level, in that Wu-Tang level. And lo and behold he is making shit better than eveybody else and gettin the well earned props

Its crazy How bittersweet Roc getting his flowers is for me. As much as I want the world to hear some of the finest displays for artistry there ever was, I also enjoy putting people on to Roc when they have no clue their world is gonna be opened up to a new life

I don’t believe they ever said they were the creators, they just showed us that in todays rap scene this form of rap will always be necessary

Boom Bap never went away. What Roc Marciano AND Ka (who also needs to be mentioned!) revolutionized was sparsity and economy while still being complex. The style of Beat never went away - you just weren't listening to good rap music.

The first always get overlooked. Roc Marciano is what Schoolly D is to Gangsta Rap. ☝🏾

I first heard Roc Marciano on 'Modern Day Revelations' off of Bronson/Alchemist 2012 Mixtape Rare Chandeliers. His verse is dripping with steez, i had never heard anything like it. He quickly became my favorite rapper, and ive been bumping him ever since. Thanks for the awesome video!!

Inventor is a strong word too buddy... the craft of beat making is more like THE FORCE... being passed down thru generations with the essence of the elders

glad you made this I’ve been trying to make a lot of stuff like this lately and your in depth explanations makes it so much easier

Roc isnt responsible for the “modern day boom dap”, he pioneered the loop style of production as a rapper/producer. I believe that title should go to The Alchemist. “Return Of The Mac” was before “Marcberg”.

Fucking finally some flowers for Roc. Most overlooked.

Excellent video as always Navie. You’re so good at analyzing and breaking down beats ✌️

Bro 😂 this was being done in 93 by homies off radio shack Casio samplers😅

76 is still one of my favorite songs. Also this channel is absolutely excellent. Much appreciation.

We never used the manuals just worked it out, inspired from ideas not copied ideas ... its like beat making colouring books now

So much respect for bringing this to the forefront. I’ve been saying for years that Marc invented this style of rap.

You definitely have to give credit to projects like Donuts and Beat Konducta Vol. 1-2 for exploring the drumless sound.

NAVIE, MY BOY, EVERY TUESDAY, WE HERE!

Roc Marciano is my favorite rapper. Most underrated artist in the genre.

I flipped that Little Ann song about 12 years ago when I was learning to use Ableton. I loved hearing Conway over it. I’d completely forgot what the sample was though so thanks for telling me

Inacreditável!!! Nunca pensei que veria uma das minhas músicas favoritas sendo explicada em detalhes, Panic do Roc Marciano é incrível. Sou seu fã aqui do Brasil, sempre assisti agora seu vídeos que como sempre são fantásticos!

When it comes to breaking down and explaining beats, you the man! - Edit: decided to pull the trigger on Better Beatmaker, let's go!

Navie, keep up your videos, they are so informative and entertaining, your a great part of this community.

Amazing work as always

Well thx alot for giving me something to listen to at work today my guy. Navie back with the 💎💎💎

Well, nice for you to notice marciano's influence on the griselda sound. But in fact the pioneer of this sound is Ka. Long before 2010, the brownsville artist pioneered this style, which he still has to this day. Bless

That beat you made at the end is 🔥 !

It’s so funny cuz these sounds and grooves and vibes were being used well in the 1999 - to now. You just weren’t listening to those underrated unknown artists.

0:34 Haven’t seen who the artist is yet but i’m assuming it’s Roc Marci

Please do a video on Paul C. McKasty, he's the guy that Large Professor credits as inventing chopping in the mid-80s. There is a great article about him called "Return to the World as a Thought" by Dave Tompkins that interviews a lot of legends talking about Paul C's impact (he was sadly murdered back in 1989). He did production for Eric B & Rakim, Ultramagnetic MCs, Organized Konfusion, Queen Latifah, Biz Markie, etc.

I Always Heard The dilla infuence in his Sound 💯💯💯 Roc Marciano is Another great one who deserves his Flowers. So Navie gave it to him and is the one who Educate the New Generation better than every music teacher ever could 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

great content lately. love these diggs.

Roc Marc DEFINITELY deserves to be ranked AS AN ELITE in the grand scheme of things. Dude super talented n deserves more love !

dope credit to Roc and i would give him credit for the resurgence him and Kai but the style goes all the way back to pause tapes. great content!

i'm not sure if you a familiar with the westcoast underground scene. But it's a fact that Ras Kass and Planet Asia are more known for the resurgence of that sound. They been doing it since 2005.

praise roc marciano! he and alc are to thank for all the good music coming out. they planted the seeds and put in the groundwork for wat gxfr was gonna do years later

His production is unique, powerful, and inspiring; but the bars are why he is Top 5 for me, no debating.

Bless your soul bro. , Marci been the gist since flip mode squad , best rapper of all time 💯 big ups from 🇦🇺

Dudes been around since forever. Crazy he didn’t drop an album until 2010. First heard him on bustas album back in 2000.

Can you do a breakdown on 90s/00s HipHop/R&B songs like Mesmerize by Ashanti/Ja Rule or Playas Gon Play by 3LW?? They have sounds in there I wish I could find out what they are. Keep up the great videos! You’re the best 👍👍

I would argue this style with the sample and no drums started on bobby digital or a couple of ghost tracks where basically rhymes to the sample. Gza fire house feat ka also did this style of beat (damn produced by roc marciano never knew

Discovered Roc Marciano at a Sean Price show. Underground rap as always flourished. I just vividly remember something about the way he did it bridging the mainstream and underground.

I never got a chance to catch up with "modern boom bap". I'm a look up that Roc Marciano track he did with Busta over a JDilla beat

Do a video on knxwledge!!!!

Respect to Roc for carrying the torch for boom bap while everyone jumped on the money-making machine of the cookie cutter trap beat factory, but calling him "the REAL inventor" of modern boom bap is hyperbolic. There were hundreds, if not thousands, of "boom Bap" holdouts during the industry-wide bandwagon-hopping to cookie cutter trap beats. People who were boom bap holdouts and released boom bap were dismissed by many as "old heads" or accused of being stuck on an "outdated" sound. There isn't any "inventor" of modern boom bap, there was just always us who carried the existing torch.

Great video. One thing i have learned is never use Serato Sample for drums, it smears the transients and any crack or punch the sample has is lost, especially when you drift from the original tempo of the sample and definitely when you use Serato Sample's pitch, so be careful, it get mooshy real quick. Try it against the original audio, you'll hear it.

I really believe Sean Price was the battery that sparked modern day boom bap 💯

Naive salute on your homage to Roc Marci. You have to add DJ Premier into this. He was/is the king of the boom bap sound as well. Hell he even did an album with KRS One in 1993 Return Of The Boom Bap. Appreciate what you do for the music production community keep it going. ✌🏾

I’ve been a fan since flipmode and the U.N., it’s great to see Roc getting his flowers. Have to mention Rza and Alchemist’s influences on the sound. Elements of early Wu and tracks like The Realest from Mobb Deep (alc produced) alongside the Return of the Mack mixtape were low key pivotal.

I knew it was gonna be roc Marciano because Action Bronson got his sound from him and I knew Griselda took some sauce from him. Great vid.

Navie, love your videos and have always loved hip-hop and sampling. You do the best job at breaking down beats and recreating them for non-producers to understand. You have an extensive hip-hop knowledge that is uncanny. This was an awesome topic and you made a great video. It would be really awesome to see a video on Atmosphere and some of their samples and songs. Ant is one of my favorite producers and his sampling and sounds are really intricate. When you brought up the part about modern boom bap using unnatural synths, it immediately made me think about the song "Delicate" by Atmosphere. There is some pretty heavy synth and it is a really amazingly produced song. Ant and Slug have known how to stay relevant and creative with their music over the years while staying true to hip-hop and evolving. It would be awesome to see a breakdown on some of their songs (also MF DOOM, but I'm sure you already know that). Thank you so much for these videos. You are extremely knowledgeable and I really enjoy the content you put out.

Man I love love love the channel, you make me discover so many tracks so many artists, thank you

Digging one layer deeper there is Ka, he came with a lot of stuff Marciano doing as well including sample-centered approach and slow and deliberate flow.

Giving ROC his flowers is real first time I ever heard Griselda was on a Roc music video. Love this!! Marci is NASTY with it! FYI before the video even started I said only person he can be talking about is Marci and I was right! LOL

To be fair, Westside Gunn was doing rap many years before 2010. He went to prison and when he came out he just kept making Boom Bap Hip Hop, he didn't jump on the trap/southern inspired beats. Cuz he had been in the can.

It's September we back in school kids. Great video. Already learning from these classes.

dude... i have been watching every video that comes up in the past few days... ive watched a lot of beat videos.. you have the best on youtube... ive had a major artistic block for the past year.. adn your videos have given me mad inspiration to jump back into music production... thank you... these videos a bangers

This just popped up and I knew he was gonna talk about Roc Marciano. "76" was the first song I heard and Marci has continued to deliver since!

You the goat for doing this , I been bumping since worlds greatest diamond heist

Modern boom bap or boom bap i dont think the sound ever really died

I think another point is that a lot of these more modern beats are a much slower bpm then boom bap of the 90s

Love your Videos. First time I remember hearing Soul Loops & sparse drums was RZA. All that I Got is You (Ghost-1996) & Hollow Bones (The W-2000). Roc Embraced it for sure Another sound I think Roc Pioneered was the Wailing Guitar sound

I'm proud to own MARCBERG on wax!!!! Definitely CLASSIC LP! Shout to Roc and Griselda for some good boom bap music! Your channel is great and you really know your stuff. Big up. #HIPHOP

Big up Navie D bringing light to the founders!

I dunno. I feel like El-P was producing like this going all the way back to Cannibal Ox.

I saw the beard at the beginning and INSTANTLY knew it was Roc!!! Shout-out the Gawd man, Roc stay dropping classic after classic. I'd suggest doing a deep dive into Ka next, Roc has worked with him quite a bit over the years and I can honestly say they're both two of the best pens in the game damn near Undisputed

Muchas gracias profe!!! Desde Colombia aprendiendo con tus masterclass. Thank you very much teacher!!! From Colombia learning with your masterclass.

I was so ready to disagree with this claim until you revealed who it was lol. I STRONGLY agree! 🤞🏽💯

Good breakdown... I'm going to look for that project... that Marcberg hard!!!

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i mean, roc just grabbed the torch from wu. and shout out to alchemist, who's been doing this for years, and stays on the scene

Skyzoo been keeping boombap going before Grizelda. He is the first person I heard shout them out and had west side gun on a song before I even heard of him. Of course he also gets Alc, 9th wonder, premier, Apollo brown and others for beats so his sound is legit.

There was never a Boom Bap Resurgence. Your ears and eyes just wandered away for awhile.

Y'all do know that Griselda gives Roc Marci his flowers whenever this topic is spoken of right??? Reasons he's on Conway Reject 2.

First of all salute cos you're the first I've seen covering this topic that explicitly highlights Roc Marci. He fully deserves credit for ushering in the new wave, but-I don't think that can be done accurately without giving it up to DJ Muggs, RZA, 4th Disciple and True Master and then Madlib & J Dilla. C.R.E.A.M.', Can It Be..., '97 Mentality' to name a few. And Wu were huge without radio love so the style definitely ain't new or super obscure. Even your example with Panic, add a third kick before each snare and you've basically got RZA. Early 2000s, Madlib was flying that flag, obviously Madvillainy being the most prominent example: Fancy Clown & Rhinestone Cowboy for starters then onto Jaylib: Heavy, The Official for example. The real under-appreciated game changer was Donuts though. Dilla flipped even the most common breaks without adding drums. That was what opened up this whole lane they're calling micro-chopping that we're in now. People weren't doing that shit on a broad scale til he made it ok. And he did that in response to the chipmunk soul era that Bink, Ye and Just Blaze popularised. I remember producers back then saying they had a lot of those same records but never heard them in that way. That was in '06. Marcberg came out 2010.

Shortly after watching this video I listened "Memories Live" by Reflection Eternal (Talib Kweli & DJ Hi-Tek). It sounds like Hi-Tek could be another producer influencing the sound of modern boom bap. He already used several aspects of modern boom bap, but to a less prominent extent..

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BEEN MY FAV RAPPER FOR A MINUTE 🗣BRO REALLY TOP NOTCH 🔥A GENUIS WITH HIS CRAFT 💯

Roc did more than subdue the drums...he eventually took them jawns out completely lol.

To your point 1: check out 97 mentality (cappadonna), new York undercover (Call o’ da wild), 260 (Ghostface), it was a good day remix (ice cube), North Star (Raekwon). And Sparkle mr midnight mix (camp lo). And liquid Sword (GZA) allthough a bit more drum heavy: still a pure loop.

“Snow” let me know it was still out there. Thank goodness.

One correction I want to make is that Roc Marciano Thugs prayers came around 2007. I remember clearly since I used to compile best of the years songs.

you are so under rated brother....your time will come