I always dominated at Redball so badly, I even started lapping cars in a six lap 5% distance Modified race. It became the canon when I was a kid that Redball was my driver's home track because of how dominant I was at that track. I haven't played a game with Redball in it since the quarantine, but I bet if I started the game up right now, I'd still win and lead every lap. Levi Strauss Speedway, on the other hand, should be bulldozed, everything removed so Dale Jr. can't make an episode of Lost Speedways about it, then have all the rubble thrown into the lowest trench of the Pacific ocean.

I'd argue that Dodge Raceway is also partially based on Soldier Field in Chicago, as it also held NASCAR sanctioned races outside their football field as well, and the stadium itself is also much larger than Bowman Gray. Great video though dude :) you deserve all the attention it's starting to get

7:28 You could probably mentione how in the later games (particularly NASCAR 09 when EA couldn't licence manufactureres), Dodge Raceway was renamed to (and def no coincidence there) Tiburon Raceway.

Fun fact about bowman gray: Danny bohn actually grew up racing modifiers there and he still races there occasionally

Well Dodge Raceway Stadium was definitely the successor to Tiburon SS, as it was later renamed Tiburon Raceway Stadium lol. Similarly, Red Ball was named for UPS for Chase for the Cup, before again being renamed to Orchid/Orchard. in 2006, you can race the UPS truck at the UPS Speedway in the UPS 400 lol

I know Sturgeon Bay, Wi doesn’t sound like the serene place you had imagined, but, coming from a Wisconsin native, Door County is a beautiful place and I do hope you visit because it will certainly change your mind. Most places there are absolutely gorgeous.

Red Ball always struck me as reminiscent of Winchester Speedway in Indiana

Just an FYI, Dodge Stadium Speedway is not the only or first Official NASCAR game track with a football field in it. That would be Sierra's NASCAR Legends which features Bowman-Grey itself. Also, your point about Redball being a placeholder for Mansfield is a fair point, but it really really looks like the Nashville Fairgrounds Speedway....

I love this kind of stuff and I'm happy to see this video suddenly blow up! Even though it wasn't in the base game, I'd like to also point out that there's technically another real life track: The Lakeshore Drive course that could only be achieved through a cheat code. As a Chicago native I was curious one day and actually discovered that unlike the New York city track, this fictional course almost entirely used real streets in Chicago. I mapped it out and the only part of the track I couldn't identify was the train tunnels, but all of the open streets that made up the course are real streets in Chicago.

Weird hearing you say Mansfield is financially stable. The track would be torn down less than a year after this video was published

Mr. Clean Speedway in Hawaii was Rockingham EA probably had the rights for Rockingham, but NASCAR took it of the Cup and Busch Series schedules in 2005

If my memory is correct I'm pretty sure nascar 06 had a mr clean sponsored track based in hawaii that was literally just rockingham

I always liked to imagine the fantasy tracks were in heaven and were owned by Dale Earnhardt, Neil Bonnet, Davey Allison, and Alan Kulwicki.

I never knew any of this until now! You learn something new every day! You earned a new subscriber my man! Love it!

Cool to see two of these tracks are from my home state. Im gonna check them out when I go back. I was always curious about these tracks, and when I saw your video I grabbed my earbuds and clicked on it. Great video! Took me back to my childhood!

Loved learning more about my childhood games! Great video, deserves more views!

Fun Fact: there is still a paved track in Clearfield, PA. UMI Motorsports Park

All of these tracks have different names in NASCAR 08 for the PS2. Old Spice: Boulder Dodge: Tiburon Red Ball: Toyota Levi Strauss: Crafstman

Now we have a Bowman-Gray Stadium design going into the coliseum for the clash. Gonna be crazy!

Excellent video!! I love that you included some real life videos too. I always wondered what real life places some fictional videogame tracks were based on too, mostly with old Need for Speed games. The track around the football field blew my mind, I never thought a real place like that existed.

Redball Speedway is the Nashville Fairgrounds Speedway.

The good ole Madhouse. Congrats Tim on his 11th championship!

No wayyyyyy! I grew up like 30 mins away from Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin (which is super underwhelming lol) and never knew that EA fictionally placed Old Spice Speedway there. Great video!

Went to Bowman Grey "The Madhouse" weekend before last, Championship Night. A guy rammed another driver several times and pushed all the way around the track🤣

This is my number 1 request in nascar games now. I would absolutely love to see fantasy tracks again

Thanks for uploading! I had NASCAR 2001 through 09 for PS2 when I was in my early to mid-teens. I remember these fantasy tracks quite fondly and would love the chance to play them again given the right platform. Also, I noticed that Red Ball/Orchard Speedway closely resembles Winchester Speedway in Indiana, more so than the Mansfield, Ohio track. (PS: I would love to see a Truck race, or even an Xfinity race, if not a Cup race at Winchester).

I've been wondering about this as I started playing the old EA games again, especially because of how much I love racing on Old Spice. Great video, man!

Great video. A little extra about Concord. It was sold to copart and the track no longer exists. Couple of facts about it It was the home track of Dale Earnhardt and his dad Ralph (the 1/2 mile version) as well as a regular track for guys like Rich Bickle, Jack Sprague, Ricky Hendrick, and Ernie Irvan The track was raced at by NBA Shaquille O’neal in a reality show called Shaq Vs, where he raced against Dale Jr. The track also had 2 locations. The old 1/2 mile was sold and turned into a housing development in the 80s-90s in Concord, NC which gave it the name Concord.

old spice speedway became boulder raceway in N08, where it's canon location is boulder, CO

Old Spice Speedway actually gave clues what state it was in: Wisconsin. One of the races have Cheese Wheel in it, and Wisconsin is the Cheese State. They also mention that it is located in America’s Dairyland (Wisconsin).

Man, what a video! Its so cool to see more and more people giving love to the old EA Nascar titles. I grew up with those games all the way from Legacy 99 to Nascar 08. I don't think I owned 09 but I did play it. Those games were a huge part of my childhood... Woudla loved hearing you talk a bit more about Tiburon SS though! I'll admit that was my favorite out of the fantasy tracks. Was the first time I saw an AI car blowover AND ghost out of the race! (As a kid I thought I killed Kyle Petty in that race because of how it ghosted his car out of the race, hah!)

Dodge Stadium could also be considered similar to Soldier Field where they did one race in the 50s

You thought Old Spice speedway was mystical for you, imagine how mystical it was for me, a kid who grew up in Egg Harbor, which is just up the highway from Sturgeon Bay. It was so weird to have a NASCAR connection, even a fictional one, to my little hometown.

Speaking of football fields inside racetracks, look at the video of the 1959 Daytona 500...You will see goalposts in the grass between the tri-oval and pit road

I always imagined old spice speedway was located in Boulder Colorado because the in 09 it was called Boulder speedway loved that track

I’d make the argument that if there is a half-mile track that looks like Bristol and put in Indiana, it’s not one track but two. Winchester and Salem are sister tracks to Bristol. Fun fact: The first automobile race after WW II was held at Winchester Speedway.

loved that you included Kakariko Village music in a NASCAR game video

Awesome video!!! The nostalgia bro

I always found it funny how the game called it Wisconsin when the tracks geography clearly was not

Literally just relived my pre-teens thanks man!

I really enjoyed this video, I never actually knew where the canon locations were for these courses, and I'd love to see what other courses were used as a basis for other fantasy tracks (Like Allstate Speedway)

Red Ball seemed more like Salem Speedway than Bristol or Mansfield, in my EA gaming experience.

Seeing this video remembered me a lot of Nascar 09 and these tracks, but i know them for another names, if I'm mistaken Old Spice Speedway was called Boulder Raceway Park, Dodge Raceway as Tiburon Raceway, Redball Raceway as Orchard Raceway (Also Toyota Raceway in previous installments), Levi Strauss Speedway I think stuck with the same name, great memories from that game

This video is awesome! Think you'll ever cover any more fantasy tracks?

this is a really well done documentary.

That bridge at old spice is a real thing, I’m a Wisconsin native and I drive through the sturgeon bay bridge every time to get to higher up parts of door county, wisconsin

a stock car track within a football field is wild

Redball speedway reminds me of Eldora if they paved it. Also, digging the Kakariko village theme being played. Man, that brings me back...

Dodge stadium is the only place to have a football field within the track. LA Memorial coliseum : hold my beer

Levi Straus speedway is tricky like pocono but the best way to run good fast consistent laps take a sharp but wide dive bomb to turn 3, run turn 2 like a basic flat track and gas as hard as possible on exit then for turn one never lift drive it deep with left side tires on the white line and let the car or truck drift up near the wall. Once I did that every lap nobody could catch me and regaining the lead after pit stops was easier. Redball was always harder than road courses because of how fast tires go away. For redball I found if I lifted on corner entry and gassed it on exit I could get 2 or 3 laps extra on tires and pit with everybody then make a slight adjustment to make the car or truck handle bad on fresh tires but get better once they went away and by the time everybody would need to pit again or lose grip I could drive away. Next a video on Nazareth would be nice. It was a very tough track that could was easy to win on once navigating the turns was figured out.

I love these vids man

I love how I predicted like a lot of these tracks because I've been documenting tons of old race tracks throughout the US for quite a few years now.

Bowman Gray Stadium packs in 8 to 10,000 fans every Saturday night, and remains one of, if not THE, best attended weekly tracks in the country! If you’ve never attended a race there, you can’t begin to understand!

I knew the old spice speedway location because in chase for the cup the race was called the door county 200 where my parents would go vacation

This video is being blessed by the algorithm, and I love it.

great video

Old Spice Speedway looks like something you'd see in a Gran Turismo game.

I grew up with this game. So many memories

Great vid keep going

I honestly had no clue Dodge Stadium was in Florida. I always believed it to be where the Chicago Bears played football but couldn't be called Soldier Field due to NFL copyright stuff.

13:57: thank you, you finally answered my question why it wasn't in the game despite it being in the previous and falling one of this game.

Here from 3widetv! Yeah baby!

I find it interesting that Red Ball was Red Ball Raceway in NASCAR 2005 and 07 but UPS International Speedway in NASCAR 06, Toyota Raceway in NASCAR 08 and Orchard Raceway in NASCAR 09 btw Southern National Raceway Park became Southern National Motorsports Park in 2013

I always loved Dodge Raceway Stadium. I'm a short track wiz in NASCAR 05 and it was either Red Ball or Raceway Stadium that was my favorite. I always thought it was so cool to have a racetrack around a football field and I would wonder what football team plays there

Tiburon superspeedway could be the Texas world speedway maybe.

Old Spice Speedway is my favorite fantasy track as I knew it was from Wisconsin because Dairyland and Cheesewheel is what Wisconsin is known for. Along with its location being in Sturgeon Bay which is super close to Lake Michigan and Green Bay but I’m about 5 1/2 hours away. I’d also like to see Trucks return to Mansfield Motorsports Park and Race the Dirt track i think it’ll provide better racing along with different grooves than Knoxville.

Late to the party, but if you ever decide to do videos like this again someday, I'd like to see a deep dive into the history of the fantasy sponsors in the EA Sports games. I especially liked the fantasy drivers they built off of those sponsors in Nascar Kart Racing.

I love this video!

I always thought redball raceway was modeled after Nashville Fairgrounds Speedway because of the grandstands and the banking, still though it was always my favorite fantasy track.

Adult me is happy to have found this video! I want to race on Old Spice Speedway again!

In NASCAR 2006 Redball was UPS Speedway, and there was a Mr. Clean Speedway

I remember on the older nascar games I raced 75 laps at Indianapolis won after wrecking all except Dale Jr till the final laps then finished the race on a flat

Red Ball raceway was also a direct copy of Dennison Speedrome from Dirt 2 Daytona, in both games that track is very fun

Funny enough, in NASCAR 06, they literally took Rockingham, which was in 2005, and set it in Hawaii.

I really love the idea of having tracks that don't exist IRL! I'd love to see it become more of a thing in professional sim racing!

dodge raceway is 100% based on bowman gray but as a kid i liked to pretend it was my home track seekonk speedway because of the similar size and very similar lap times, with modifieds at least. that and old spice were my two favorite tracks in nascar 2007

13:01 my dad raced at clear field speedway before they abandoned the track it is now called UMI speedway

I think Dodge Raceway is also a racetrack modification of Tiburon Stadium in the EA football games of the time.

Dodge Raceway is my favorite short track of all time. Bristol for MEN.

I would love for tracks like Red Ball Raceway and Levi Strauss Speedway to one day spring up at least for the Truck and Xfinity Series. The Old Spice Speedway is a very interesting and intriguing concept except for I do not know if acquiring the land for it would be possible. Now for a place like Dodge Raceway Stadium, I do not feel it could happen for a national touring series race as fun as it might be. You would have to have competition cautions at like laps 100 and 200 of say a 300-lap race because you would have to have controlled pit stops since the setup of the pit area creates a risk of crashing entering and exiting the pit area. I am not sure if this could happen for even an Xfinity or Truck race since you would have to limit the field size to like 30 to 32 cars or trucks. It definitely could not work for Cup because the 36 charter teams all need to compete in every race, and you cannot be limiting the field size to below 36 cars for that reason.

LA Coliseum now 😆

I loved nascar 2005 and I wish games today would include fantasy tracks. Especially the short tracks

Red Ball reminds me of either Salem or Winchester. Both High Speed Short Tracks in Indiana

This is awesome. I removed racing dodge raceway in 06 total team control. Never realized it was a football stadium, as I was only 8-11 years old.

I loved those early 2000's nascar games.

Hey I’m from Wisconsin. You take that back!!

The banking at dodge raceway reminds me of the CNE speedway in Toronto.

10:00 Kakariko Village Music from Legend of Zelda: Ocarina Of Time

I’m here after the possible reports of NASCAR going to the LA Coliseum

I always believed red bull was Nashville fairgrounds but i may be wrong but does have same crowd cover and train off back straight

I think Redball/UPS Raceway is based more on Nashville Fairgrounds because UPS Raceway has higher banking than the real life Mansfield does, as it resembles Nashville Fairgrounds banking more. The front stretch grandstands resemble Nashville Fairgrounds as well. However, I can see that the shape on the track map does kinda look like Mansfield's shape. Maybe it's a mix of the two

Two of these track are close to me. I’m at Concord, NC. I’ll try visit it them.

You should do one for the Tony Stewart dirt games... I've always wondered if those tracks were based off real ones

Concord is one of my favorite tracks i have ever been too. Hate they closed it down

I want to know who's bright idea it was to put a race in Northern Wisconsin in March?

I would say red ball is much closer to Lucas Oil Raceway (IRP) than mansfield. IRP also has train tracks right behind speedway and no haulers are allowed in infield. Mansfield is much less wide like winchester compared to IRP sweeping corners. Concord has officially been closed and the track has been dismantled

3:13 renamed to Boulder in NASCAR 08 Dodge Raceway was renamed to Tiburon in 08 as well.

what year was it with sprague in the 16 truck i dont' have that year game?

I miss tiburon. That place was a riot

You should do fantasy tracks from nascar 2001 explained like this video