Im really enjoying this channel, love the balance and attitude, the willingness to unravel what really happened and why and its not about offending people or pointing fingers

Thank you for bringing on ex muslims. Living in the southwest part of the country there isn't much out here about muslims. It's always fascinating to learn about the other Abrahamic religions or other religions in general.

Hi Derek, you should really invite Prof. Dr. Sami Aldeeb. He is the one you need as scholar in this subject. He shows very convincing the jewish origins of islam und is a very good expert about islamic history from secular point of view. He lives in Switzerland and has a youtube channel, too.

Black Box - one of the greatest 90s dance groups. Praised be Martha Wash!

I like the variety of people and topics on your channel.

To MVP video editor: I think your addition to production is a real boost and worth congratulations - the intro sound fade was very nice. However - the 'cue card' transition effect is the new mp4 / html "blink". The multi-directional movement is very distracting. IMHO Top shelf subject matter is not improved using a kid's filter. IRL Cue Card handlers are paid well to be smooooth. Please consider. Thanks. Sorry; after a dozen images, it is really bugging me this morning!

You should take a look at what Dr. Jay Smith and his team are uncovering concerning the beginnings of Islam.

Respect to Dr.Shady Nasser, for giving a balance view. Reckon Muslims need to take this approach as well.

Ask Dan Gibson where the Kaaba was before it was demolished and recreated where it is now. It is not the Kaaba itself that is pivotal but the object inside it, the meteoritic black stone.

Is people flocking to the Kaaba any more ridiculous than people flocking to Graceland? Do people still go to Graceland?

I think there are two rules to follow in life . Just love everyone and just love your own God if you honestly feel what you are believe in is right I think it is not a matter of who is right but what is right . The challenge is to believe what is right ...

It's a pagan box. Zero connection to Judaism and Christianity

On the point about Yahweh: I’ve heard interpretations that suggest the name Yahweh was a tribal addition to the god/s named in Genesis. Whether viable or not, the statement, although true from Judaism’s mythology; is entirely false from the view of the Christian Gnostics who viewed Yahweh as the chief Archon of Yaldabaoth. So, certainly NOT the god above all gods...

Hi Derek, I'm enjoying the channel! Wondering if you have watched English historian, scholar and author Tom Holland's excellent documentary on the origins and early spread of Islam throughout the Arab world? And if you have, do you also see parallels between this story and the history of how Christianity first really took hold and spread widely once it was co-opted by Constantine and the Roman Empire? Thanks!

The amateur archaeologist Dan Gibson has made an excellent case that the original site of Mecca was actually Petra, and its connection to the Ebionites that fled to Petra during the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Roman-Jewish Wars. The current traditional site of Mecca and the Kaaba do not match the Quran, especially being a small village site off of the ancient trade roads, with little geographical markers that need to be exaggerated to fit the Quranic description, and probably bring similar to how Nazareth was later appropriated by the Christians, although it was probably either non-existent or insignificant at the time of Jesus, only becoming a true village during the Bar Kokhba Revolt as a Priestly village. But the way, I am personally convinced that g the original references to Nazareth were regarding the city of Safed, being one of the signal fire towns mentioned in the Jerusalem Talmud (Rosh HaShanah 3), the “city upon a hill that cannot be hidden” Matthew 5:14), which caused great dispute between the Pharisees and the Boethusians, having different calendars, and is probably the source of nothing good arising from Nazareth (Fourth Gospel 1:46).

There’s is no god, but “hallelujah “.

Derek - Look at the connection between tefillah (tef-il- lah), the black kabbah-like box the Orthodox Jews wear on their foreheads - and Kabbah. What is the origin for both?? :)

shady's body languege says... he is afraid to talk against Islam

Pre-Islam, according to inscriptions in Southeastern Turkey and Northern Iraq, the moon god Sin was referred to as "Allah". Harran (Abraham's alleged birthplace) was the center of the cult of the moon god Sin. They prayed and fasted identically to the Muslims of today.

Probably, probably, probably... great soil for emergence of myths

Not to be shadey, but there wasn't a whole lot on the Kaabah in this video.

There were many Kaaba in Arabia and the one that Mohammed reclaimed was built by his tribe and he wanted it to be used as a symbol for his new Religion of Islam. There was no official story that Adam and Eve build the Kaaba together and it was later destroyed and Abraham and Isaac with Ishmael rebuilt it and later reclaim by Prophet Mohammed. “That’s a false made up story!” The original Kaaba was already over a thousand years old when Mohammed reclaim it and it had paints of Christian Prophets and baby Jesus and Mary. The only true aspect is that is was used by pagans and Christian and Jews. No real evidence to support that it was the first house of worship for Jews.

Didn't Arabic speaking Christians address God as Allah (as they do now,)centuries before Islam?

I wouldn't trust a guy whose name is "shady" Nasser...

Shady Nasser himself says he is not an expert in this. Then why to Ask him about History and Archeology and about Origins of Kaaba ?

Thank you for your work

This title is provocative. It never ceases to amaze me that people think the word Allah is referring to something other than GOD. "Allah" is the word for God in Arabic! Please! What other word would you have them use to talk about God in their language, and why do you not ask the Germans where Got comes from, or the Spanish where Dios comes from, or the Russians where Bog come from? Or why don't you ask the Aramaic speaking person where did Elah come from? This is most pertinent as "Allah" is a dialect of the Aramaic word"Elah". "Allah" is borrowed from Aramaic. And most of you know this phrase well, "Elahi Elahi lema sebaqtani." (Psalms 22 and Matthew 27:46) Peace.

Derek, everytime I watch one of your videos the next video KZfaq wants me to watch is always a Saddleback Church video. Every time 100% of the time no deviation. I keep telling you to I am not interested in videos from Saddleback Church just like I tell them I'm not interested in Seth Meyer video and I'm not interested in Fox News videos but they keep trying to get me to watch them.

If you continue down the path of rebutting Muslims about Islam, you should think about scrubbing your "socal media bleed". You have a lot of personal data online. Just a friendly suggestion.

Interesting, though starting 10:05 at the latest, it's all speculation.

If you accept what Bart Ehrman says about where Christianity got its idea of the afterlife from, with a hell down there somewhere torturing people and heaven being up there somewhere as blissful place, then you’ll be accepting a massive influence of paganism on Christianity. He’s written a book about it, maybe you should have him back to discuss that.

Once he said he is not expert, you would have let him go. Why don’t you have debates in your channel?

“Was it an abrahamic shrine then turned into a pagan practice? I’m not sure…An expert on this can explain this……”. Thankyou Prof Nasser. Not sure why you are commenting on something that is not your area of expertise.

The best way imho to find out about your own religion is to study someone else's.

There is only one god and everybody is HER messenger….ss

@3:45 "maybe we can do more excavations in the area" ... wouldn't any muslims working on the excavations be required to destroy any pre-Islamic artefacts they found?

Potentially a brilliant video, Unfortunately, I felt the interview was too short, and many questions remain UNanswered. Please find scholars with greater understanding to address the issues again, origins of Kabah, black stone, animal sacrifice, pilgrimage rituals, moon god importance, define pre-islam Allah, etc.

Mister , here you did not ask straight forward questions... were you overwhelmed or scared like all to say anything against islam?

No you tip toe around Islam. Christianity is at a full assault because you personally rejected it. No hate, but be honest.

Dan Gibson is probably the best person to find out about the Kaba. Dan Gibson, check him out.

Nasser can't verify whether Adam built the Kaba but somehow he can verify Kaba was place of pagans. Interesting, seems like propagandist talking not an genuine academic.

You guys are all wrong. The Kaaba was originally a Public Toilet. It contained many korans which were used for wiping.

Allah says,"And remember Abraham and Isma'il raised the foundations of the House ( With this prayer ) : " Our Lord ! Accept ( this service ) from us : For Thou art the All - Hearing , the All - knowing . " Our Lord ! make of us Muslims , bowing to Thy ( Will ) , and of our progeny a people Muslim ,bowing to Thy ( will ) ; and show us our place for the celebration of ( due ) rites ; and turn unto us ( in Mercy ) ; for Thou art the Oft - Returning , Most Merciful .......... "."Our Lord! send amongst them an Messenger of their own, who shall rehearse Thy Signs to them and instruct them in scripture and wisdom, and sanctify them: For Thou art the Exalted in Might, the Wise."(Surah- Bakara)AlQuran..... " "Say : He is Allah , the One and Only ; He begetteth not , nor is He begotten ;, Allah , the Eternal , Absolute ; Favourite And there is none like unto Him ". Al Quran... Allah(God/Yahweh/Elohim )j

Allah is Hubal. Hubal (moon god) is the supreme god worshipped by the Qurashy tribe which muhammad belongs. The Qurashy tribe dedicated the kaaba to Hubal.

I love the way you say Kaabaaa 😅💕

Abraham or Adam never built the kaaba, they both are the servants of The GOD OF THE BIBLE,they never worship idols in their life

You are missing the main thing. You are going on the wrong track. Don't forget that the entire history of Islam and Mohammad was written 200 years after Mohammad. So all these things like Mohammad was born in a city called Makka, his father name was Abdullah and other things, all these things are known from the literature written 1200 years ago, not 1400 years ago. There is no archeological evidence of any city called Makka 1400 years ago. Dan Gibson is the right person whom you should invite to your channel. He has presented many evidences against the traditional narratives of the origins of Islam. He has given evidence that there was no city called Makka 1400 years ago. And Even Mohammad was born in a city in North Arabia, not in Makka. And Islam started in North Arabia, not in present day Makka

Thanks God for Islam ❤❤❤❤

Going to ground engineer asking questions instead of asking a Dr . Ask people who know

You should get DR. Jay Smith!!!

El Shaddai was a different Canaanite deity than JHVH, who has also been found archeologically among the Canaanite pantheon.

This devil is sometimes called lucifer. Wikip

Tell me you don’t know the history of Arab pre Islamic without telling you don’t know pre Islamic ,the Arab brought the idols in the 1 century ,they always worship the only true god

Where does the Koran command circling and kissing the black stone of idolatry? It doesn't? That's something you might want to think about.

dunno if this helps but perhaps the correspondence you are looking for can be found in the words themselves : Kaaba - Ka Ba Lah Kaab Allah - kabbala - Qiblah In ancient Egyptian Ka meant “soul” or “spirit” (also bull / apis) ba was the spiritual aspect of the human being which survived - or came into being - at death. endowed with the person's individuality and personality & Lah : (Iah/Yah/Lah/Aah. Iah) is a very early god of the moon in ancient Egyptian religion, and his name, jˁḥ (sometimes transliterated as Yah, Jah or Aah), simply means "moon."

Funny you mention the cross symbol. Aztecs also used crosses in their religious symbology. The Spaniards were shocked to see that that they used crosses as their religious symbols. See if you can get a scholar to help breakdown come on and breakdown the book Babylon Mystery Religion.

"Let us..." is a reference to the Trinity.

This channel has lost its core philosophy, which was the critical presentation of Christianity. Now, they are presenting Islam with an affirmative tone, by choosing Islamic scholars who can do that.

.... The messenger of allah said about the ( black ) Stone : By allah ! Allah will raise it on the Day of Resurrection with two eyes by which it sees and ac tongue that it speaks with , testifying to whoever touched it in truth." Ibn Abbas narrated .

Yahweh and El become one God when the Jews started to worship him in Canaan (Israel) Brother Baal was later abandoned and his name is sometimes use for the place of the Devil.

the kaaba is an old hindu temple where they paid homage to shiva.............

Nothing new, quran came corrected the religion before which got distorted, just as now Islam is distorted

To religious people who believe in the *fictional* Abrahamic god YHWH/Yahweh/Jehovah/Allah, please learn his origins. He was originally a lesser god in the Canaanite pantheon and son of the chief Canaanite god El. Yes, the *fictional* god of the Israelites and Christians is the same *fictional* god of the Muslims as well - the Abrahamic god. ------------------‐----------------------------------------------- *Although the biblical narratives depict Yahweh as the sole creator god, lord of the universe, and god of the Israelites especially, initially he seems to have been Canaanite in origin and subordinate to the supreme god El.* Canaanite inscriptions mention a lesser god Yahweh and even the biblical Book of Deuteronomy stipulates that *“the Most High, El,* gave to the nations their inheritance” and that “Yahweh's portion is his people, Jacob and his allotted heritage” (32:8-9). A passage like this reflects the early beliefs of the Canaanites and Israelites in polytheism or, more accurately, henotheism (the belief in many gods with a focus on a single supreme deity). *The claim that Israel always only acknowledged one god is a later belief cast back on the early days of Israel's development in Canaan.* *It is generally accepted in the modern day, however, that Yahweh originated in southern Canaan as a lesser god in the Canaanite pantheon* and the Shasu, as nomads, most likely acquired their worship of him during their time in the Levant. *Yahweh in the Canaanite Pantheon* The biblical narrative, however, is not as straightforward as it may seem as it also includes reference to the Canaanite god El whose name is directly referenced in `Israel' (He Who Struggles with God or He Who Perseveres with God). *El was the chief deity of the Canaanite pantheon and the god who, according to the Bible, gave Yahweh authority over the Israelites:* When the *Most High [El]* gave to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of men, he fixed the bounds of the peoples according to the number of the Sons of God. For Yahweh's portion is his people, Jacob his allotted heritage. (Deuteronomy 32:8-9, Masoretic Text). The Canaanites, like all ancient civilizations, worshipped many gods but chief among them was the sky-god El. *In this passage from Deuteronomy, El gives each of the gods authority over a segment of the people of earth and Yahweh is assigned to the Israelites who, in time, will make him their supreme and only deity; but it is clear he existed beforehand as a lesser Canaanite god.* Yahweh, according to Amzallag, was transformed from one god among many to the supreme deity by the Israelites in the Iron Age (c.1200-930 BCE) when iron replaced bronze and the copper smelters, whose craft was seen as a kind of transformative magic, lost their unique status. *In this new age, the Israelites in Canaan sought to distance themselves from their neighbors in order to consolidate political and military strength and so elevated Yahweh above El as the supreme being and claimed him as their own.* His association with the forge, and with imagery of fire, smoke, and smiting, worked as well in describing a god of storms and war and so Yahweh's character changed from a deity of transformation to one of conquest. *As the Israelites developed their community in Canaan, they sought to distance themselves from their neighbors and, as noted, elevated Yahweh above the traditional Canaanite supreme deity El.* They did not, however, embrace monotheism at this time. The Israelites remained a henotheistic people through the time of the Judges, which predates the rise of the monarchy, and throughout the time of the Kingdom of Israel (c.1080-c. 722). Google *"Yahweh - **WorldHistory.Org.**"* Watch Dr Christine Hayes at Yale University. Watch lecture 7 from 30:00 minutes onwards and lecture 8 from 12:00 to 19:00 minutes. Google *"Jews and Arabs Descended from Canaanites - Biblical Archaeology Society."* Google *"Canaanite Religion - New World Encyclopaedia."* Google *"Canaanite Religion - **Realhistoryww.com**"* Google *"Canaanite Phoenician Origin of the God of the Israelites."* Google *"God's Wife Edited Out of the Bible - Almost."* Google *"Yahweh's Divorce from the Goddess Asherah in the Garden of Eden - Mythology Matters."* Google *"Married Deities: Asherah and Yahweh in Early Israelite Religion - Yahweh Elohim."* Google *"How the Jews Invented God and Made Him Great- Archaeology - Haaretz."* Google *"The Invention of God - Maclean's"* Google *"The Boundaries of the Nations - Yahweh Elohim."* Google *"How Did the Bible’s Editors Conceal Evidence of Israelite Polytheism - Evolution of God by Robert Wright."* Google *"A Theologically Revised Text: Deuteronomy 32:8-9 - Ancient Hebrew Poetry."* Google *"Biblical Contradiction #3: Which God is the Creator of the Heavens and Earth: Yahweh or El?"* Google *"Biblical Contradiction #27. Are Yahweh and El the Same God or Not?"* Google *"Mark Smith: "Yahweh as El’s Son & Yahweh's Ascendancy - Lehi's Library."* Google *"Excerpt from “Yahweh and the Gods and Goddesses of Canaan” by John Day - Lehi's Library."* Google *"Quartz Hill School of Theology - B425 Ugarit and the Bible."* Google *"The Origins of Yahweh and the Revived Kenite Hypothesis - Is That in the Bible?"* Google *"Yahweh, god of metallurgy - Fewer Lacunae."* Google *"Polytheistic Roots of Israelite Religion - Fewer Lacunae."* Google *"Biblical Polytheism - Bob Seidensticker."* Google *"Religious Studies: El, Yahweh and the Development of Monotheism in Ancient Israel."* Google *"Decoupling YHWH and El - Daniel O. McClellan."* Google *"Yhwh, God of Edom - Daniel O. McClellan."* Google *"The Most Heiser: Yahweh and Elyon in Psalm 82 and Deuteronomy 32 - Religion at the Margins"* based on the *majority scholarly consensus.*

islam is just plagiarized christianity, plus judaism was originally pagan anyways, i find it just silly that muslims try to make a claim about abraham's life when his likelyhood of him ever exsisting is so low, one of the lowest chances out of any major biblical character

you need to understand false knowledge is more dangerous than ignorance . If Adam and Eve Abraham and the few hundred prophets were in Mecca based on the standard Islamic narrative it would have been a bustling place of activity known world wide with historical reference from many other sources especially when conquests of famous places.. Mecca was only known after Muhammad ..so where was its former history and glory like Babylon. Just a question ? So why is there a fear of excavations to validate archeological truths?

@3:00 "they were common in the region" ... therefore since only one survives it's HOLY. GOTCHA, ATHEIST !!!!!!!

may be i think may be some say may be what a deep knowledge

Cybele, or the root thereof, means cube, and there was a black meteoritic stone associated with her worship. I'll just leave it there.

Also in Jericho they called the plastered skulls El-oh, El-ohim, Al-oh depending on the dialect

shadi is so biased in his works and makes mistakes. he makes interesting arguments but fails at basic arguments when he picks and chooses what evidence is convenient for himself

I think you need to ask an Islamic scholar this question, not an ex-Muslim

Do you get Muslims on here? 😭

What about the hypothese that the real kaba is in petra? Could u ask him next time?

WHY DO MUSLIMS KISS THE "BLACK" STONE AND THROW ROCKS AT THE "WHITE" STONE.(SHATIAN)? UMM..

El was the God of gods and Yahweh was a member of His council and his son. He was given the Hebrews to preside over. He was not the chief god. Of course this is debatable.

Quran has challenge for all those who doubt its from God that if you can produce 4 lines like Quran.1400 yrs has gone by but no one has answered this challenge till now and all who attempted it have reverted to islam

The funny thing is, if you were to compare the original worship of Yahwey with how Abraham worshipped, it would be different, with how Moses worshipped, different, with how David worshipped, different, with how Daniel worshipped, different, with how Jesus worshipped, different, Mohammed worshipped, different. The point is, there is no worship of the Abrahamic God that survives today. So why do so many claim to get it right and that everyone else is wrong. I'll tell you why, it's all man made. Made by men of different times, era's, cultures sensibilities, greed, motivation and imaginations. This God yahwey probably started off as a Volcano God in the Sinai desert and just by happenstance has survived in name or close enough name that people today still think he's real. Volcanos are real but they don't think, love, talk or make rules. They just ooz lava once in a while or go dormant all together. Let's all stop marveling at the volcano and realize that we know how volcanoes work and why and there's nothing godlike about it.

Where does it say in the Jewish bible that Yah*, the God of Abraham (Isaak and Jacob for that matter) is the God of gods, sat on the throne reigning over other gods? Never ever read this in the bible or Oral Torah.

Amar Ibn lowhai was the first person who introduced paganism in the Makka and the there is a hadith of the prophet Mohammad pbuh that Allah swt punish him of his act.

Black cube of saturn

Get Dr. Jay Smith from Pfrander films to talk about Islam. He is doing the cutting edge work on showing how Islam was created. All the evidence says that Mecca (and the Kaaba) didn't exist in the 7th century.

please invite an expert next time on this subject like Dr Jay Smith

8:10 I disagree , El was the primary god of the Canaanites of which Yahweh was a part of , the Jews dropped El and put their god in its place just like the Christians did to the Jews .

Noah's Ark was a large Black Box Structure covered inside and out with black bitumen

We orbit the Kaaba like planets and stars revolve on an axis. This is the command from our God. Indeed, your Lord is Allah , who created the heavens and earth in six days and then established Himself above the Throne. He covers the night with the day, [another night] chasing it rapidly; and [He created] the sun, the moon, and the stars, subjected by His command. Unquestionably, His is the creation and the command; blessed is Allah , Lord of the worlds. Al Quran

Derek is stanning Mr Shady hard.

All of these ideas perfectly confirm the Quran’s theology, which says that God has always sent revelation, scripture, prophets, and messengers to all nations of the world throughout history, in their own settings & language, with the same core message. So of course the title “Allah” existed before the Prophet Muhammad. We would expect that. The Qur’an itself acknowledges it, and calls the prophet “nothing new” (bid’a) and in multiple places even says that the pagans acknowledge ‘Allah’ (God) as the Supreme deity in their pantheon, which they have corrupted from the original ancient message passed down from Abraham of only one God. The pagans began to create other idols and worship demons/spiritual forces and set them besides and underneath the one true God (‘Allah’) making a false polytheistic twist of the truth. It’s the same essential phenomenon we see with the Israelites and YWHW. So none of this discredits the Qur’an, but rather fits perfectly in line with that it says. It fits the Qur’anic data quite nearly.

hey yo if you want truth plz just speak to an actual muslim not these hoologans

Look at this Tom and Jerry one guy asking a question to the other guy and he knows nothing learn the word Arabic

To make easy , Aliens is the one that built the Kaaba. And aliens tricks human to worship them because aliens think human are weak and needs help LoL.

Shivaiite

fake news

You should get a real job dude

When YHWH says our image YHWH is referring to the Trinity

Why are you asking someone who claims not to be an expert on this topics? The Kaaba's history goes back to Adam A.S and it was rebuilt by Abraham and Ismael. Jews and Arabs used the Kaaba as a centre for worshipping the one God. The Jews stopped visiting the Kaaba around 400 A.d when some Arabs introduced pagan Gods. The Arabs rebuilt it at the time of the Prophet Muhammad RSAW, before he became a prophet. There are pre Islamic literature that covers this and also in the old testament and talmud. Mecca was mentored several times and known as Paran. Have some self respect Derek and get yourself experts.i mean you don't go to a dentist to fix your plumbing and vice versa

Bullshits

The monolith

SHADY Doctor .

First temple in jerusalem was built for Chiram and in the name of Ha-Shem. Ha-Shem means Mans Food Covenant. In 1 Kings 5:12 YAHWEH give Chiyram an allotment of lotus water. Lotus water is a hallucinogenic that was used in Egypt and was made from the Egyptian Blue Water Lily

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