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I’ve been saying this a long time ago. Of course all of this comes with many challenges but if you take in account that there are some companies looking into asteroid mining, developing those technologies on the moon is our best bet before trying to hunt down passing rocks.

Argghh! I hate the fact I was so young the last time I watched a Moon landing, but will be so old next time! It's still just as exciting though.

If they are going to build bases on the moon, I hope that they'll name them after H G Wells and Jules Verne.

This is a similar thing I say anytime I have a conversation with Someone about colonization. The very first and most important thing we need is to establish a logistics system before anything else. That could be an orbital station or the moon but it needs to be something that can act as a checkpoint between planets and stars. From there we would have the ability to build space only ships that would never touch an atmosphere allowing them to be much larger haulers for people and resources between these checkpoints. With an established logistics system it would be 10x easier to expand beyond our world as we would just need to build more checkpoints to any location we wish to visit. Btw we already have the full capability and technology to build a space station or moon base however at the moment no one wishes to pay the astronomical cost it would be to start. On the other hand, whoever is first will have a significant monopoly over the entire aerospace industry and easily be able to get their return as everyone else will be unwilling to do the same thus funnelling through the sole owner of said structure

At 72 years old I'm just hoping I see us land on the moon again and get started on staying there this time.

I've always said this. From all I understand, it's easier to build megastructures in space. And it's also easier to launch, from space. We should be dedicating more resources to a moon base to help launch us into the rest of the solar system, like Mars and Titan

"... in the centuries to come." I love your futuristic world view and this is the reason I would happily pay for your content! 👍

The best thing ever about the craters is that we should be able to figure out which ones have useful ore bodies in them!

Enjoy, can't wait. Wishing happy times.

I always wondered why they committed so much resources to the International Space Station considering how tiny it is when a Moon Base just makes so much more sense?!

Returning to Earth's Moon, and developing bases there for science and industry, should be viewed as essential to meaningful space exploration and our planet's technological advancement. We need to develop cislunar space infrastructure, partly to avoid excessive launch costs from Earth, and partly to make space programs and space industry more self-sufficient. We need to look at the possibilities for developing moonbases in underground lunar lava tubes, which would offer invaluable protection from the harsh environment of the lunar surface (solar storms/radiation, meteors, cosmic rays, temperature extremes). The basins of great lunar craters are filled with the remains of meteors, which were originally asteroids before they encountered the Moon. The former asteroids can contain many valuable substances, including rare earths, which would benefit both lunar/space industry and Earth society tremendously. Colonizing the Moon will undoubtedly mean industrial activity, possibly using robots for production and skyhooks and/or electromagnetic catapults for launching personnel and goods into space. It is not clear if human space programs are prepared to actually settle personnel onto the Moon or Mars full-time. It is not clear if the diminished gravity of these bodies would be compatible with long-term human health. If human health and vitality requires 1.0g, humans could only live on or near the surface of these bodies part-time at best. A necessary element of both spaceports and general space infrastructure will probably have to be orbiting forward bases (space stations) with rotating habitats to provide more human-compatible workspaces and residential spaces with simulated 1.0 g. The raw materials and fabrication for space station components will undoubtedly come from ISRU. (In the case of Earth's Moon, from the Moonbases). Solar power on the Moon's surface would be problematic. But is you have a space station in orbit, you could build a solar power satellite based on a FlowerSat design, capture the sun's rays in space, and beam the power down via Wifi transmission to the bases. Isaac Arthur's science and futurism channel came up with some key videos on the sbjects touched upon here: "Power Satellites" [ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m6hzlceFza-ufnk.html ], "Becoming an Interplanetary Species" [ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/la-Yl8Vpks6ZdZ8.html ], "Colonizing Cislunar Space" [ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nbWiYKqVmp7epWw.html ], and "Skyhooks" [ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/itKged2fxL-RdmQ.html ]

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Incredible video! Very well done!

I've got an entire illustrated story project, in development, regarding this (spanning about a 40-50 future timeline). I plan to share a first draft, publicly, to get some thoughts on fact or fiction (even if there's some intentional fiction, mixed with theory or guesses)... Was working on it for a year or two, then you can say got caught up in its prequel project, that's 10 years ahead & takes place on Earth. But, definitely could work off the moon, & really wonder if NASA or anyone else is fully aware of what prolonged deep space (for Mars, but exposed to it through Artemis) means. I think there's still some unanswered questions, before people personally take that journey deep dive, that between the Earth & Moon can possibly answer.

Hey TSR, love your tutorial-style videos. They can be placed on a larger Television for kids to watch and learn from. There are a few mistakes here and there (I’m a retired aerospace engineer), but the tone and flow is really good, and will hold the attention of young ones. Great job! You have my sincere thanks.

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An L5 space ship factory makes a lot if sense. Even at 1/6 g, the Moon still represents a deep gravitational well. So by limiting Lunar operations to mining and resource harvesting g, coupled with mass drivers (rail guns) to launch refined materials to L5, we get the best of both locations, Lunar raw materials and micro gravity industrial site. Keep in mind, that L5 hangs above the moon, just as does the Earth, therefore, building the mass driver in the correct orientation is a once done problem. Also, do not forget that Lunar dust is hazardous to both human lungs and to bearings in equipment - so locating industries off the Moon simplifies a variety of issues. Dr. Geral O'Neil, Princeton (?) physicist, detailed this concept in the '70's with his book High Frontier: Colonies in space.

This was my view as well, I don't think the star ship should be what we use to get to Mars. But rather we should use it's huge payload capacity to build an interstellar ship either in orbit or on the moon. By removing the need for a space craft to have to ability to escape the earth's atmosphere. Having ship built in space and remaining in space really allows you get creative and focus on what's best for the mission at the time.

Just want to say thanks for this kind of video.

I loved ad astra and the way they portrayed the moon sites! Loved seeing the highway signs on routes to other bases like back home on earth.

Great documentary

Looking forward to humanity finally returning to our Moon and inspiring new generations. We are, in fact, the last generation to be able to look up at a totally uninhabited Moon.... for now

WOW SHIBTASTIC 💯 so many possibilities 👍

Thanks!

I know it's incredibly expensive, but I can see a some kind of a maglev slingshot (or similar) on the moon, Perhaps the best location would be around the equator, and it would go round the moon many times before accelerating to any significant speeds. However, these speeds would open the rest of the solar system to us, without needing 'silly' gravity assists from other planets

I'm not as sure that it's that far away. I get that we're used to thinking of colonization as having milestones in hundred year increments but I really think that if we really open space for commercial enterprise we might have significant mining and industrial on the moon, Mars, possibly other places by 2040. What's been missing is money to be made and practical means, and it starts with getting that first stable 'thread' of industrial activity up and running and likely goes exponential after that (ie. more activity and proof of concept means more people looking to pursue mining and industry profit off-planet).

The point of the Moon is, that you could build a railgun to shoot mass into orbit. No atmosphere, low escape velocity, and also it would be easy to keep the superconductors requiter cool enough without need for cooling devices. Why would you use a rocket when you can just use electricity to accelerate the mass from the Moon.

1st … earth orbit transfer station for rendezvous of dedicated station to moon commute rocket (it’s the fueling station, plus loading cargo plus transferring people) 2nd… moon colony 3rd … moon orbit station to assemble huge commute ship from moon metal, earth components, moon fuel, moon oxygen, water, etc. and for people embarking to mars (or earth) 4th… park the huge ship at Deimos moon of Mars. This is the ideal colony location. Deimos dirt serves shielding as the huge ship is buried and covered. Deimos material fuels all rockets and replenishes water, air food, etc. 24 hour sunlight for energy. Super low escape velocity from both Deimos and Mars 5th… The metal asteroid. If it’s the center of a planetoid then it’s worth more than anything else in the solar system.

Why Space X is partnering with NASA so often. Because the Artemis Program will turn the moon into an interplanetary gateway "station" (to Mars). And, of course, cooperating competitivity leads to better results in a more efficient & timely manner, as opposed to individualistic monopolism.

Good discussion.

Makes good sense!

Is it possible to smelt the aluminum during the daylight hours on the moon? Would the additional heat make it easier for robots or astronauts to make metal from the moon regolith. Could use machines to mine and collect ore then during a certain time could smelt all of it during the hotter parts of the day.

OMG! You have an amazing idea here, Space Port on the moon!

Once you had a base on the moon and started building rockets and such you could doing shot ships into space with ease increasing the distance we can travel emensly while also lower the fuel load of an intergalactic ship

Okay...how about some ideas about a revolving space port anchored onto the moon? It still would have to be over 1 Km in diameter to avoid getting sick.

I give you credit for saying compression instead of friction.

These are wonderful videos. Sure I'm a geek. And I like it because there's others out there i'm not alone. The producers of this and other Ideas are right up how I feel.

Let get going

With all the negative stuff going on on our planet i plan not to end it all now but to wait till we reach the Moon and then Mars...then i can go with a smile on my face knowing that the human race will survive :)

It's very simple why we're going to the Moon the Moon doesn't have an atmosphere quite like the Earth where we can exist without extra equipment for oxygen and pressure differences therefore if we can make a space station on the moon we can make a space station and other planets

Landing starship will create a crater that will or might make it impossible to return to orbit. Changing the land configuration to a side landing for a one way landing to establish a base to create a landing pad for future missions.

This has all ready done in: Space 1999! TV Show!

most serious studies for lunar habitats chose sites close to the poles, which offer locations where sunlight is almost permanently available, and we also are close to permanently shadowed regions where water Ice can be mined. With team of scientists I made a design study for a Moon Habitat funded by the European Space Agency . We found a suitable place on the lunar South Pole where the longest dark period only is for 4 days twice per year. So, the problem of 14 Days of lunar night can be avoided. And we don't need nuclear reactors to produce electricity ,because natural sunlight is available almost constantly. Regarding the use of resources from the Moon to produce fuel and even build spaceships in future, and benefit from the low delta-V, I totally agree. And even for these industrial processes sunlight can be used to melt metal inside a solar oven

Host: It takes a couple of days to get to the moon.. DARPA: Hold My Beer 😁

Yup build a space station and then you can build big ships on that with smaller ones in a space garage for use in entering and leaving a planet.

Agreed

We need to learn how to cut and stack giant rocks on the moon and mars. Far more efficient option for building large structures without having to transport material. That or we need a way to make lunar and martian concrete with local supplies.

some day we may be able to move pluto to be closer to the "habitable" zone to mine it? i mean if you can move it, you should be able to spin it faster and turn it into a sat. right?? i do have a very strange question beyond that thou.... how much of the moon would we have to mine as to reducing its mass enough that it would effect tidal currents?

building something on place with lower gravity and use it later to land on place with higher gravity or with atmosphere might not work well or i could be wrong?

I'm wondering if a large enough space port and station built on the moon say if they actually at some point built a moon city say the size of New York what would the effect be in the gravitational pull of earth would it effect the tidal pull possible cause tidel waves and coastal flooding

You’re forgetting the most important part... oil You can’t make anything you need there without oil.

The moon worst issue? Moon dust. Micro Fine grains of sharp glass-like dust. Scratches, rubs through holes, clogs, clings, and as you can imagine.. quickly ruins everything. Like keeping sand out of your car at the beach, though many times many times as worse, it's everywhere. Even floating in the air of the capsule sitting on the moon. Longest stay on moon is days because of it. Less building a factory on it to mine it into aluminum rockets ships. Though side note: to drop off guided warheads completely fixed and enclosed? No atmosphere, minimal gravity? Be a warship in the sky

A big honking around the lunar equator particle accelerator, a cryogenic laboratory in lunar caves, a radio telescope shielded from earth radio traffic on the other side of the moon, an astronomy observatory, and a whole bunch of other applications that become available as time goes on as soon as the establishment of the first lunar cities get built on the Moon....

Hardened Structures is a company that builds bunkers. If they designed a geodesic dome then it would hold strong against the environment of the moon. The group that does the underwater farms could work with them to design a system that with dry hydrogen cells the 'hyrdogen distillation ' effect to form clean pathogen free water for the system. Culturing Lichens would provide oxygen and deplete carbon dioxide (as would the farms) with minimal energy cost (insofar as resources we're concerned.) and electrostatic separation could be used to 'vacuum' up the rock and dust for the moon and categorize the different material for later use so that the mineral content of the water is properly formulated by each plant growing in the farms. The technology exists, as does the technology to design a low fuel craft to carry the supplies to the moon.

Even though the new space race will be a race of manufacturing in space/ on the moon, I'm here for all of the advancements it will bring. Imagine Google mapping a lunar base and being able to go down the halls. Even though only scientists and the wealthy will physically go there first, being able to view it in first person virtually will be amazing. (I know I'm making assumptions, but it's safe to assume all non-classified areas will probably have a virtual tour type feature).

8:30 correction. Not friction, compression of the air is what turns it to plasma.

There will be a moonbase or 3 in your lifetime. Loving all of your optimism.

I have already applied for a job erecting the Space Port's many panels that it's going to take and from what I've been told it may be a one way ticket but, that's alright

What's the status of research into zero-g 3D printing?

It's so important that we get some Men & Women living on the Moon In a self sustaining environment. Then on Mars. The Earth is not going in the best Direction. Man cannot change it at this point.

One of the biggest drawbacks is trying to manufacturer on the moon is the apparently lack of appreciable amounts of copper. I'm not saying there's none, but from the regolith that has been tested don't seem to have much Cu. In addition to silicon, most of our technology requires copper. You might be able to get away with using aluminum, but your electric motor and wiring won't be as efficient and you run higher risk having the wires getting too hot and decomposing the insulation causing shorts or fires, if in O2 atmosphere. Hopefully they find useful amounts of Cu so that we can bootstrap mining operations.

Interstellar means between stars. So it wouldn't be an interstellar spaceport. Interplanetary is closer I guess, but the moon is not a planet either, but a satellite planet. The blue lava "lake" on the moon would be very high in Titanium percentage-wise.

Moon dust is a game-stopper. See "The Problem with the Next Moon Mission" by Real Engineering.

It would be wonderful to build industries on the moon, begins with mining of raw materials, then refinement of those, followed by manufacturing.

Could there be any danger with the tides or any other moon related activities if we changed the weight of it through mining and taking resources back to Earth?

What about the dust problems??

In orbit there is gravity..what you really should say, there is free fall conditions. A spaceship is being pulled to the body it orbits . To stay in orbit, the spaceship must move fast enough to match the fall away of the planets surface. Remember, a planet is round. To break orbit, the ship must move faster then the planet's surface fall away. Simple.

You could harvest the matter from space to make huge earth batteries to start with and help make clean energy for a space station

Don't see Nitrogen in those lists, with out it you can not grow food...

GO SPACEX SPACEFORCE & NASA.

If we have to go deep to avoid solar radiation, those ancient lava tubes are the way to go. They may even lead down to access rarer elements. Business is the only real reason to travel the solar system. With excess ores that can survive being shot through Earth's atmosphere to hit the surface in designated areas.

I can't stop wondering how advanced we'd be by now if we hadn't taken that 50-year pause. Can you imagine if you push the envelope for 50 years straight. 50 years pushing rocket tech in spacecraft design. People say the technology wasn't ready so we waited for tech to mature. But the truth is tech only matures when we make it. By dumping funding into it R&D - something we pulled back from in the early 70s because NASA already had a limited budget and decided to focus on the probes to Saturn. No doubt we'd have a moon base at the very least.

The Scifi writers Heinlen, Azimov, they were all about starting at the moon.These books were writen during the fortys and fiftys

Helium 3 for Aneutronic fusion fuel. Pretty much it.

Without protection from deadly radiation your moon base is a dream.

This makes since they should be investing everything into this and further population of our solar system

space is big

Finally a channel which understands that earth’s Moon is the best candidate for off earth industry/manufacturing. Earth’s Moon is the place to build a human crewed outpost for many reasons. Develop earth’s Moon first and then humanity can expand out further into the solar system.

Just wondering if we can live on the moon when it has been reported that the moon dust destroys space suits within 24 hours. Not the suits themselves but the dust gets into the joints and makes the suits less airtight according to the reports that I have seen.

This makes me wonder if it is possible to somehow create an atmosphere on the moon first before we do it on MARS ???

According to remote viewer Ingo Swann, there is an alien base on the dark side of the moon involved in a mining industry. Spoiler alert;they are not the warm & fuzzy type. How that translates into a successful earth driven colony on the moon should be an interesting engagement.

Build on the dark side or twilight.

Waste of public funds. We should improve this planet first. All the tech that is developed, using public funds, doesn’t benefit the public but rather the companies that make the tech

The company that promotes the space station you keep trashing has already proven that it can be built in six to eight months. As well as perform well enough for a way station between worlds. Not saying the moon base isn't warranted, but I would still go with the station first.

Yes the reason is they want to be the first

At 5:18 to 5:38 the solution to that energy availability problem during the night cycle on the moon can be found on the following videos by the "Two Bit da Vinci" "Breakthrough Solar cell DOESN'T Run On Sunshine!" "Breakthrough Tech Heats Homes Cheaper Than Natural Gas!"

Well in space you can build bigger spaceship I do hope they're built faster.

If you start mining the moon. It may become unstable because of over mining. Keep in mind, the Moon makes Earth a more livable planet by moderating our home planet's wobble on its axis, leading to a relatively stable climate. It also causes tides, creating a rhythm that has guided humans for thousands of years.

Every element and mineral that we have on Earth will be on the moon plus so much more that we don't even know yet. The earth is a floating magnetic body (the effect of the tides is evidence on earth). It attracts all elements in space to its presence. It is like one smart recycyling mass machine. More capable beyond our human understanding of the subject.

P.S. another possible energy source that my last a very long time is lunar thermal, like Geothermal, the of core Luna is not cold yet to the best of my knowledge. Also solar Vs. Fusion, Fission. Solar is almost infinite. The sun will last for nearly an infinite amount of time. Nuclear is a limited resource.

7:33 plag or plague? lol

Best use of moon is a fuel depot. Much easier to create lox and lh2 there. Interplanetary thrust by nuclear rockets, but you still need landing and maneuvering fuel. The NASA concept shown in the film 'the martian' is best. Chemically fueled (methane) Elon Musk starships to get off the surface of Mars and hydrogen/oxygen New Glenn to get off the surface of Earth, but a big nuclear powered tug to make multiple fast trips to Mars.

Cepot, eh? I just did like 10 minutes ago until I blazed that shit down dude

Bet you we could get it done and goto Mars in 10 years if we build up Starfleet which I started 12 Jul 2022 in-line with JSWT picture release. Starfleet Adm. Abe One K’Nowledge - Jedi

We need to conquer the moon fist before we go to mars

ilmfao! "We should build spaceships on the moon". Good luck with that.

Where is all the cheese? Sounds like a cat and a fiddle to me, even makes the dog laugh.

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