The Real Reason The Video Game Industry is Collapsing (The Death of Xbox and Decline of Triple A)

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Mugthief

Mugthief

Ай бұрын

With recent news surrounding Microsoft and the layoffs at Arkane Austin and Tango Gamerworks, as well as the drama surrounding Helldivers 2 and it's restricted sales and reviews, we have to face the truth. The Whirlwind of Triple AAA games, Activision, Blizzard, and ongoing controversy everywhere, we have to talk about the future of games when studios behind Dishonored, Prey, The Evil Within, Redfall, The Evil Within and and Ghostwire Tokyo are left in the dust, when consoles and exclusives no longer matter, and where the almighty dollar is all that matters.
Thank you for watching.
/ mugthief

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@rahimsvoice
@rahimsvoice Ай бұрын
Investors are destroying all industries. Gaming is just one sector. Just look at renting prices due to investors buying out apartment complexes and houses. People need to wake up.
@HobeyDator
@HobeyDator Ай бұрын
Agreed! Like I said, Once A Company becomes Public, this enterprise will only please the greeny dollar eyes of its investors who dont even know whats the soul and passion of a true game.
@daviddavis6161
@daviddavis6161 Ай бұрын
Greed within gaming industry is just the tip of it all.Corporate greed is very prominent in the workforce,housing,transportation, food etc..... all the while wages stay far below the controlled cost of living. It all goes hand in hand all across the board, unfortunately.
@munchkingod6
@munchkingod6 Ай бұрын
It’s the core structure of capitalism. Without a powerful system to regulate it and keep it in line this sort of cannibalistic collapse of conditions is the only possible outcome. Competition does not function to prevent monopoly or duopoly control without aggressive antitrust which does not exist. The rot is endemic and total and until people recognize that the CORE problem is most aspects of their lives is shareholder capitalism things will just keep getting worse for us all.
@TraVenKrofT
@TraVenKrofT Ай бұрын
​@@munchkingod6💯
@ytmld
@ytmld 29 күн бұрын
one day people need to get off of their asses and vote protest and boycott these companies that ruin our lives like black rock vanguard and state street
@GnarledStaff
@GnarledStaff Ай бұрын
Guys, its not the gaming industry. These videos are popping up about every industry. Executives taking excessive pay and mismanaging their companies in order to increase stock prices at the cost of function.
@SeventhheavenDK
@SeventhheavenDK Ай бұрын
This is very true.
@Charlesbabbage2209
@Charlesbabbage2209 14 күн бұрын
The enshitification of everyday life.
@Lupostehgreat
@Lupostehgreat 11 күн бұрын
Also the fact that our current system for retirement causes a lot of problems. People with 403Bs, 401Ks, and IRAs cause a ton of obsession with stock prices.
@sauske2killer21
@sauske2killer21 7 күн бұрын
@@Lupostehgreatthose people don’t cause the obsession with stock prices brother. They are just trying to have a modest retirement fund. It is the hedge funds who have huge amount of shares in these blue chips. Not the average worker with a 401k
@Brenelael
@Brenelael 5 күн бұрын
It goes way beyond that. It has more to do with the Blackrocks of the world promising easy funding if these companies toe the ESG line. They inject all kinds of DEI nonsense into their companies chasing after all that enticing ESG funding and they are killing their own companies in the process. They get their Blackrock funding at the cost of their own consumers. Greed is blinding them as they charge headlong into their own demise.
@rouvencocker
@rouvencocker Ай бұрын
Entertainment as a whole is collapsing.
@glitch200
@glitch200 Ай бұрын
Exactly.
@dburd22
@dburd22 Ай бұрын
the whole world is collapsing
@tstager1978
@tstager1978 29 күн бұрын
All because of leftism. Democrats are helping the .001% steal the worlds wealth. This is all part of a much bigger plan.
@jackstraw4222
@jackstraw4222 28 күн бұрын
that only means something else has to replace it or step up ,at least thats how it used to be...idk if thats the case anymore...
@mikead24
@mikead24 28 күн бұрын
Korean Hollywood is booming, they're putting out better content than America....
@Srindal4657
@Srindal4657 Ай бұрын
The gaming industry took too many pointers from gambling addicts and casino managers.
@W1ndF4lc0n
@W1ndF4lc0n 28 күн бұрын
Can you blame them? The reality is that the shift towards live service/micro transactions/loot boxes are a reflection of demand. You can have masterpiece level games like Pathologic 2 that barely sell enough to keep a small studio afloat while mediocre buggy trash from an established franchise (lets say Fallout 76) or some terrible gacha garbage sell 100x more.
@zacziggarot
@zacziggarot 26 күн бұрын
Yes, I can blame them. They charge the increased price of $70 and then load the game with microtransactions for even more money. What they don't tell you is that over half the money made off microtransactions comes from a small group of people: the whales. These are people that buy EVERYTHING regardless of quality, be it fomo, completionist, full on compulsive spending, they don't care. The game's industry is full on exploiting part of their audience and it's a disgusting practice. Especially when a decent sized chunk of their audience keeps fighting against microtransactions, the industry knows we don't like the added storefront in every other game, they don't care
@GabrielleTollerson
@GabrielleTollerson 25 күн бұрын
exactly
@Matanumi
@Matanumi 24 күн бұрын
@@W1ndF4lc0n those people are only buying fallout because if established IP
@W1ndF4lc0n
@W1ndF4lc0n 24 күн бұрын
@@Matanumi That's my point. People will buy literal pile of shit if its from an established IP, but won't support new games even if they are very good. That's the problem, consumer demand. There is very little market demand for quality games among game players.
@TekkLuthor
@TekkLuthor Ай бұрын
One of the biggest mistakes in gaming is the misconception that better graphics equals better games
@ninochaosdrache3189
@ninochaosdrache3189 Ай бұрын
But better graphics make a good game even better. And they kind of do. Why should I buy modern hardware if the game looks like from the 80s?
@LilBnnuy
@LilBnnuy Ай бұрын
​@ninochaosdrache3189 you don't need modern hardware to play good games
@NinjaRunningWild
@NinjaRunningWild Ай бұрын
@@ninochaosdrache3189 No, a good GAME makes a game better. Graphics are just a bonus.
@SeventhheavenDK
@SeventhheavenDK Ай бұрын
I am glad someone says it, and I totally agree. As I wrote in another comment, I would like to share my thoughts here as well. I am of the idea that this is one of the reasons the videogame industry is in danger. Nowadays the companies worry way more in making a game with the ultimate graphics. -Now, developing games takes way more time to make, when in the past they were being released in one-two years apart and with quality. - Their development costs increase way too much because of this. - Nowadays, it seems developers are more worried about the graphics of the game than in the overall quality of the content. Ultimate graphics, but barebone games.
@SeventhheavenDK
@SeventhheavenDK Ай бұрын
​​@@ninochaosdrache3189. Funny enough, most of the games in PS1 and PS2, for instance, are way better than nowadays games.
@iknothatukno
@iknothatukno Ай бұрын
Gaming, to me, is overdue for an 80s style crash.
@Retroloft556
@Retroloft556 Ай бұрын
Preach. I hope it is apocalyptic so the normies and crazies leave.
@jackstraw4222
@jackstraw4222 28 күн бұрын
yea long overdue,and e sports and other tournaments also need demolished to bits as well...
@Matanumi
@Matanumi 24 күн бұрын
Except gaming itself has become too big to fail. If gaming is going to have a "crash" it'll be western only and there will be FAR many more problems in the background (like.... not affording you rent or food)
@soylentgreenb
@soylentgreenb 20 күн бұрын
I don’t get people who talk like this. AAA has been increasingly shit for two decades. That’s not where any of the good games are; thet’re all from AA and smaller budgets as well as indies (including some rare as hens teeth indie AAA titles like Baldur’s gate III and Witcher). There are more games to play than there is time. Stop feeding the AAA industry.
@dingickso4098
@dingickso4098 19 күн бұрын
The AAA/AAAA industry will crash for sure, meanwhile indie games will thrive and survive.
@spherexxx44
@spherexxx44 Ай бұрын
Shareholders are the downfall of any product, their greed has no limit, they raise prices, cut cost then cut quality and when no one wants the product anymore, they move on to destroy the new product and so on.
@ls.c.5682
@ls.c.5682 22 күн бұрын
You need investment for business to grow though, and the truth is pretty much anyone can invest in a lot of these companies. e.g I have some stock in Nintendo, not a lot - about $2k but I can still say i own a crumb of a major company. Single shares are something like $14 now on the NTDOY tracker. If a bunch of fans cobbled their money together and started a "company" (just a legal entity rather than something that had employees etc) they could easily buy a significant chunk of any company and have a say at financial Q+A etc. If anyone wanted to dip out, you just sell their share of the, er, shares
@jsnaggz
@jsnaggz 22 күн бұрын
@@ls.c.5682 That would require some investment of time, money, and attention into the industry. Too much effort for casual consumers. Easier to stay in the cycle: buy the sloppy product, get disappointed, blame it on capitalism, share their discontent with other lazy consumers, and then get excited for the next AAA game. 😂
@tomykong2915
@tomykong2915 6 күн бұрын
​@@jsnaggz laziness is a pretty small factor in this in the grand scheme of things, and spherexxx was making a more general statement, which applies to all of the current western corporate environment, and with that in mind, yes, some people could afford to contribute a bit in such a way, but not the vast majority, and no, not nearly enough to actually fix the problem, they would still be outnumbered on the board by people who don't understand the industry, but had more money to begin with, and those shareholders each have at least as much invested as we would collectively invest. I do agree that we need to stop consuming the AAA titles and then complaining, the people doing that are also not helping, but they're ultimately the vocal minority. I am someone who hasn't bought a AAA game since I bought Minecraft ages ago, but I'm pretty sure that was before the Microsoft acquisition, so that doesn't even really count. I have played AAA games since, and I have been bought AAA games a few times, but I have not bought them myself.
@goose_clues
@goose_clues 6 күн бұрын
@@ls.c.5682tell that to Blackrock jewishit CEO a.k.a Larry Fink
@alienfish8521
@alienfish8521 4 күн бұрын
Yep. Anytime shareholders are involved everything goes downhill.
@ciswhitememe
@ciswhitememe Ай бұрын
Shareholders are enemies of gamers
@AKATenn
@AKATenn Ай бұрын
shareholders are the enemy of any type of creativity, it causes the creator to be scared of doing anything that doesn't make "number go up" and getting sued. so it all becomes about profit instead of art, beauty, creativity.
@briansmith303
@briansmith303 Ай бұрын
@@AKATenn I'd go even further and say shareholders are the enemy of everything. Businesses are created to fill a need and provide something. And it isn't shareholder value. Value is created because the business is good at fulfilling its purpose. Once the purpose becomes making money instead of product, you can bet shareholder value is the next thing down the drain. AAA gaming is about to find that out the hard way.
@GodOfOrphans
@GodOfOrphans Ай бұрын
Shareholders are the enemy of everyone actually they are economic parasitoids that destroy everything they get involved in by forcing it into an unsustainable fools errand for perpetual growth instead of stable consistent ROI and when this untennable impossible task fails it destroys the business while the shareholders golden parachute away to their next victim having extracted all the wealth from the situation and ruining the business for the employees and customers.
@nocturneuh
@nocturneuh Ай бұрын
@@briansmith303 Amen 🙏
@jellyface401
@jellyface401 Ай бұрын
And a lot of other industries 😢
@burnedraventales6030
@burnedraventales6030 Ай бұрын
This is why I hate it when anything I enjoy goes main stream, it gets milked dry and then discarded
@draco_1876
@draco_1876 Ай бұрын
The problem is greed not popularity
@iraford5788
@iraford5788 Ай бұрын
​@@draco_1876exactly.
@billy6427
@billy6427 Ай бұрын
I use to be a Dbz fan . But now I can't stand it
@richardhunter9779
@richardhunter9779 Ай бұрын
@@draco_1876 Popularity enables greed, every time, because everything has a price. P.S. Anime was better when everyone was pirating it.
@MetaGamingDojo
@MetaGamingDojo Ай бұрын
@@richardhunter9779 lmfao
@77dead
@77dead Ай бұрын
Share holders are ruining everything literally everything, housing, politics, games, infrastructure, design, etc. literally every time I search why everything suddenly sucks or is unattainable, there's always a shareholder or corporate investor behind it.
@BraapTales
@BraapTales 27 күн бұрын
The global economy is in a death spiral. The more economic signs look bad, the more shareholders try to milk everything. The more they try to milk everything, the more economic signs look bad.
@TeddyKrimsony
@TeddyKrimsony 26 күн бұрын
The wrong side won the cold war
@TheKingWhoWins
@TheKingWhoWins 21 күн бұрын
Okay Stalin. Get off your alt account
@thesocialistsarecoming8565
@thesocialistsarecoming8565 20 күн бұрын
​@@TeddyKrimsony not really, no.
@done9137
@done9137 20 күн бұрын
​@TeddyKrimsony we'd be worse if Russia won.
@timh.7169
@timh.7169 22 күн бұрын
as soon as Blackrock got interested in the gaming industry, it started to die
@cryptik3918
@cryptik3918 14 күн бұрын
So slaughter blackrock &/or vanguard? 🤣
@timh.7169
@timh.7169 14 күн бұрын
@@cryptik3918 sounds good 😅 not that easy tho
@azmalguthek4502
@azmalguthek4502 13 күн бұрын
@@timh.7169 No amount of money reinforces organs, friend.
@midnightshade32
@midnightshade32 12 күн бұрын
Yep
@FelisImpurrator
@FelisImpurrator 12 күн бұрын
It's always the Jews for some of you, huh.
@CVIMALO
@CVIMALO 22 күн бұрын
Moral of the story: Get passionate about something while it's niche and once it becomes mainstream, bail.
@biazacha
@biazacha 17 күн бұрын
Moral of the story: keep shareholders away from your company if you want to keep making games that’ll actually be loved and cherished. He gave a bunch of examples of companies that are going strong precisely because they never entered open market.
@sigmachadtrillioniare6372
@sigmachadtrillioniare6372 4 күн бұрын
Well that doesn't make sense. Lots of good game companies have shareholders. Blaming shareholders or anyone who seeks profit for seeking profit is bad. Studios make games for the purpose that it'll make money. ​@@biazacha
@jaythomas468
@jaythomas468 Ай бұрын
The problem is simple: the Western sector of gaming will probably crash. And THIS IS WHY: with gaming becoming SO LUCRATIVE, it’s now “infested” with suits, venture capitalists, and angel investors; all people who just want a simple ROI and care NOTHING about the integrity and artistry of making and releasing games, YET these companies have to kowtow to the whims and demands of these idiots pouring money into them. So then the corporate execs have to appease these VULTURES by making the “bottom line” FATTER and the easiest way to do that is JETTISON studios and employees, irregardless of whether the game they made was good, bad, a financial success or not. All while these parasites walk away with EXORBITANT 9-figure BONUSES that they could’ve taken a 20% cut on to preserve the THOUSANDS of livelihoods that they just ruined in the process. This system is BEYOND FUBAR. The industry’s heading for a crash because it’s now in a “bubble” driven by all the “money people” who prioritized short-term gains over long-term viability and they’ll just “cash out” and float away on their golden parachutes as the industry implodes behind them because they NEVER FACE ACCOUNTABILITY on any of it.
@lt7388
@lt7388 Ай бұрын
Angels
@istrumguitars
@istrumguitars Ай бұрын
This highlights a deeper problem with how we run our economic system in the world today.
@CBonduMiel
@CBonduMiel Ай бұрын
​ @istrumguitars i said it before, just cap everybody's salary to 200k and use the rest of these ceo annual salary and total money stashed away (save maybe a million or two) to fix whatever life they've burned in the process. it would fix a lot without increasing inflation because you wouldn't print any money and it would also stop the housing market from selling house at exhorbitant prices. It would also insure that figure generation like millenial and genZ can actually afford housing and food if you use that money to increase their salary. Those ceo and executive and money people are the ones to blame for it. i don't see why future generation should have to pay for those greedy people, let them pay for it. Sadly, a lot of those people are also in politics, so without retroactive term limit, i don't see a way to change this. People don't needs millions or billions of $ to live a decent life, 200k is enough, with an adjustment for inflation depending on the state/country/currency that is. Also it would have to be done all across the western world, but mostly in north america, including canada and the usa. There is no choice, when 1% of the population have nearly 90% of the money, its either we increase inflation through the roof, and people can't afford anything anymore or we held those responsible for it accountable and force them to liquidate the extra money and asset they don't need. it's sad, but its only viable solution that would increase the buying power of everyone not already making 200k. also, no bonus anymore for anybody either way, just so these money people can't shift all of their incone into bonuses that aren't included in their salary. that's the only way i can on how to fix this mess. The boomers litterally made a mess out of everything, it is their responsible to fix it, and to the next generations to hold them accountable for what they did. period.
@user-fq7oo2lb2c
@user-fq7oo2lb2c Ай бұрын
That's what happens when people who's only creativity entails screwing people out of money are allowed to run the arts. I can count on one hand the amount of new games I've bought in the last 5-6 years that I actually enjoyed.
@NinjaRunningWild
@NinjaRunningWild Ай бұрын
@@istrumguitars No, it's a problem of companies becoming too large & having priorities shift. The economic system is incidental.
@solarflaredragoon
@solarflaredragoon Ай бұрын
It's because many developers also keep making games that no one wants, while also sitting on gold mine titles for DECADES.
@alekjanowski9847
@alekjanowski9847 Ай бұрын
#BRINGBACKTHESABOTEUR
@jonathanpretty5031
@jonathanpretty5031 Ай бұрын
Very true! Bring back Tenchu! Metal Gear! And other games I can't remember right now.
@solarflaredragoon
@solarflaredragoon Ай бұрын
Some examples for me are The Legend of Dragoon, Dark Cloud/Chronicle Series, KOTOR(which they say is still being remade but its taking decades to complete), Jak and Daxter(they brought back Crash Bandicoot), Summoner Series, etc. There are way more of course, but just throwing some out there. I'm just tired of developers making 1 or 2 games and just moving on and abandoning their fans and these worlds they have created for them.
@S15Sl8ER
@S15Sl8ER Ай бұрын
**Publishers
@ifstatementifstatement2704
@ifstatementifstatement2704 Ай бұрын
It’s run by people who understand nothing about gaming
@user-bs1um6hi1e
@user-bs1um6hi1e Ай бұрын
This is so true that it's depressing. The idea of exponential growth is evil and unattainable. Enough is never enough
@kaden-sd6vb
@kaden-sd6vb 18 күн бұрын
Corporations are quite literally a cancer on the world
@lucazani2730
@lucazani2730 18 күн бұрын
The fun fact is that in this exact industry, exponential growth COULD BE possible. It's just the system which is fucked up. With modern hardware and graphics engine people could just work on virtual assets to make game programming much easier and faster so that people could potentially make a masterpiece in months. But why no one is doing this? Because neither virtual assets nor masterpieces are profitable. It is profitable to just milk a franchise which had 2 to 3 masterpieces like 15 to 25 years ago until people from loving it start to hate it. That's what happened with basically every popular franchise except maybe two or three
@jimharrison2513
@jimharrison2513 Ай бұрын
Imagine if a 120 million dollar budget film raked in 350 million dollars and the studio said it's a failure? Lol I don't have to imagine it actually happened. Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix budget was 150 -200 million dollars and made 942.2 million dollars and according to WB it lost them 167 million dollars. Even with marketing that math ain't mathing lol. So it's not just the games industry. There's a saying in Hollywood about no films are ever profitable or something like that.
@borginburkes1819
@borginburkes1819 Ай бұрын
If the corporate investors stopped being so greedy. A 100% profit would be a god send
@victortoba-ogunleye4056
@victortoba-ogunleye4056 25 күн бұрын
That was WB cooking the books to avoid taxes
@victortoba-ogunleye4056
@victortoba-ogunleye4056 25 күн бұрын
The actual movie with marketing cost around 400-450 million, theatres will take their cut which is around 30-40%, this still leaves them with around 200 million Dollars. The loss was because they cooked the books to avoid taxes.
@ms_heisenbug
@ms_heisenbug 24 күн бұрын
Yeah, because movie needs to make like 2.5-3 times its production budget. Part of it is marketing, sure, but there's also theathers and actors' pay which is ridiculous nowadays. It's disgusting and helpless. Edit: actually, I wouldn’t be surprised if making movies is a way for money laundering because those costs are ridiculous.
@TheKingWhoWins
@TheKingWhoWins 21 күн бұрын
Most likely is a ML scheme a 5th of the time
@xeikai
@xeikai Ай бұрын
The sooner big money gets out of gaming the better.
@fligsnurt7835
@fligsnurt7835 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately to make big money leave gaming, the customers have to not be idiots willing to buy brand loyalty.
@iraford5788
@iraford5788 Ай бұрын
Yeah thats unfortunately not going to happen anytime soon if ever.
@ninochaosdrache3189
@ninochaosdrache3189 Ай бұрын
But big money is the only way to get awesome games like Devil May Cry, Halo 3, Assassins Creed 2, Modern Warfare 2007, GTA San Andreas etc. Indie games aren't capable of making such titles.
@borginburkes1819
@borginburkes1819 Ай бұрын
@@ninochaosdrache3189those amazing games were made back when their studios were small. Big money came in AFTER those games succeeded
@user-gb4jy6sp4u
@user-gb4jy6sp4u Ай бұрын
@@ninochaosdrache3189 Yes, they are.
@jjmax981
@jjmax981 Ай бұрын
Xbox management needs to step down.
@StayFractalesque
@StayFractalesque Ай бұрын
They never will.. MS will just pour money into them just to try to suck talent out of the market, its the only way they can compete.. ..it seems there will always be xbots like a dog cowering in the corner tail tucked, but i swear most of the engagement i see trying to control the narrative, are xbox marketing posing as consumers.. its wild..
@johndodo2062
@johndodo2062 Ай бұрын
Sony and Nintendo aren't much better at this point. Steam it's also just as evil.
@ifstatementifstatement2704
@ifstatementifstatement2704 Ай бұрын
Management is only implementing the directives of directors.
@ninochaosdrache3189
@ninochaosdrache3189 Ай бұрын
@@johndodo2062 At least Sony and Nintendo make great games, something that XBOX didn't manage to do in over 10 years.
@MeowieGamer
@MeowieGamer Ай бұрын
@@ninochaosdrache3189*cough* hi-fi rush came out last year *cough*
@SVW1976
@SVW1976 Ай бұрын
Gamers willingly bought every piece of garbage put in front of their faces.
@ddaymace
@ddaymace 28 күн бұрын
This is part of the reason AAA can release unfinished and patch later. Gamers preorder and have to wait so long they'll play anything instead of waiting longer and voting with their wallets
@sillonbono3196
@sillonbono3196 Ай бұрын
It is because AAA gaming doesn't produce games, they produce business plans, the game aspect is secondary, they all want to make a GTA Online or a Fortshite "live service" that will rake in 5 billion over the next 3-4 years.
@redd-jb-
@redd-jb- 15 күн бұрын
But fortnite is objectively a great game, and is the example of how life service Games should be.
@NikolaiMihailov1
@NikolaiMihailov1 Ай бұрын
The industry died when bean counters got involved. It died when investment firms got involved(Blackrock and all of its subsidies) It died when consoles became the norm and people took the slop and asked for seconds.
@jaythomas468
@jaythomas468 Ай бұрын
I agree with your first two points but consoles have been the “mainstream” method to access games for 30+ years and I don’t really see that changing unless there’s some kind of revolution in access (maybe eventually smart TVs will have enough processing power and/or PCIE + USB ports to hook some simple peripherals up to and game on them natively) because I don’t think PCs will ever become the norm because too many people (especially among the working class) ARE NOT “computer savvy” at all.
@NikolaiMihailov1
@NikolaiMihailov1 Ай бұрын
@jaythomas468 I know this. However they are also closed loop systems. Consumers do not own their media with the current(and most likely future) console generations. I'm not against consoles as a concept. I'm against them because Sony,Nintendo,M$ have all conditioned their consumers to buy slop after slop every year while they pay more for less. Consoles should be the gateway to gaming. But they are becoming too restrictive.
@jaythomas468
@jaythomas468 Ай бұрын
@@NikolaiMihailov1 I hear you which is why I buy (almost) everything physical, but I generally don’t have too much of a problem paying full-price for games so long as the quality is present since we’ve actually been eating pretty good in terms of having games that offer much, much more potential HOURS than before while MSRP stayed relatively THE SAME. The irony with PC, though, too, is that a lot of people buy and use Steam without question even though Steam is still EFFECTIVELY DRM. But I guess at least on PC, you have “other avenues” if a game becomes inaccessible.
@Xelliz
@Xelliz Ай бұрын
​@@jaythomas468exactly, it's tiring when people cry about console gamers and their evils when embracing Steam since inception with a fervor seen only in cults.
@NikolaiMihailov1
@NikolaiMihailov1 Ай бұрын
@@Xelliz I don't like steam either. I miss physical media.
@aruce9
@aruce9 Ай бұрын
I feel like what you’re describing is the endgame for another games industry crash. Where publishers in their greed either pull out or reinvent themselves leaving indies to inherit the industry and rebirth it
@matthewzumbo9868
@matthewzumbo9868 Ай бұрын
We seem to be heading towards that conclusion. Double AA games will inherit the industry
@devastatheseeker9967
@devastatheseeker9967 Ай бұрын
I think one of the biggest lies we're told is that videogames are getting more expensive to make. They aren't, companies are just doing bad things like hiring A listers or pushing ultra realistic graphics. There's also the fact that devs have gotten lazy. Which makes sense when you aren't incentivised to work efficiently.
@SeventhheavenDK
@SeventhheavenDK 29 күн бұрын
Exactly this!!
@nikosfotidas8543
@nikosfotidas8543 14 күн бұрын
Devs have gotten lazy???? My friend, devs these days work like SLAVES just to keep themselves afloat and not get fired... Do some research
@TheOriginalMcJunior
@TheOriginalMcJunior 6 күн бұрын
This is so true, the bigger a company gets the less efficiënt they work in my experience.
@nikosfotidas8543
@nikosfotidas8543 6 күн бұрын
@@TheOriginalMcJunior Video games 15 years ago had less than half the features, were less than 20% of today's games in size, net code has become infinitely bigger in volume and way more complicated since modern games are way more complicated in movement, combat, environments etc... So yeah in terms of staff needed and time needed for development they are way more money hungry... Saying that creating Crash Bandicoot on PS1 costs the same as making a modern AAA game is ridiculously stupid
@jpfan100
@jpfan100 Ай бұрын
I kind of think the big studios buy out smaller studios that do well and shut them down to stop them getting big enough to compete with the big studios like a fermi paradox anyone that gets big enough to be noticed is wiped out
@grumpynomad3551
@grumpynomad3551 Ай бұрын
I’ve been doing it for years. Buy a successful company and shut it down. Put my company there to replace and expand. Rinse and repeat.
@freshhands9461
@freshhands9461 Ай бұрын
Fermi Paradox is a very good allegory, unfortunately
@kaseyboles30
@kaseyboles30 20 күн бұрын
I think you mean dark forest. The fermi paradox asks why when there should be so many alien civilizations don't we see them. The dark forest is merely one suggested answer (as in "The Three Body Problem").
@SergeyBondar-mx6fe
@SergeyBondar-mx6fe Ай бұрын
The decision to shut down the successful AA studios to cut costs is as brain dead from the business perspective as it is from the gaming side of things. Is it similar to a tech company shutting down its R&D to save money. Yes, it might improve the results for a few quarters or even years, but it is a guaranteed failure long-term. Like, you can be outcompeted if you don't do it, but you *will* be if you do it.
@ifstatementifstatement2704
@ifstatementifstatement2704 Ай бұрын
You ask too much from these assholes
@Triniarin
@Triniarin Ай бұрын
Well, i think MS will close their console business, and they will get profit from publishing their majour games on other platforms.
@Rastayeti666
@Rastayeti666 29 күн бұрын
keep the market small, limit competitioners. EA does exactly this since 25 years. As indi-games were on the rise the big players bought them and closed them after a while, has nothing to do with shareholders
@tjroelsma
@tjroelsma 27 күн бұрын
Normally speaking your comment would be spot on, but these aren't normal times. The majority of AA studios are already dead, as the creative minds that developed the successful games have all left and their places have been taken by activists and at best second, but more realistically speaking third or even lower tier developers. What the bean counters at Microsoft and other companies that bought the AA studios for prices based on past successes are doing is cutting out the rot: the activists who're just pursuing their agendas instead of developing new games. Why do you think all successful franchises have been mutilated to push agendas instead of offering decent gameplay?
@Rastayeti666
@Rastayeti666 27 күн бұрын
@@tjroelsma a short look and you will see studios that developed Evil within, Dishonored, HiFi-Rush, Prey, a mobile developer etc are closed. None of these showed signs of being woke, sorry. To throw reality over board because being anti-woke is the same psychosis as being woke
@FTChomp9980
@FTChomp9980 Ай бұрын
Triple A is about to end up in another Gaming Crash Microsoft,Sony,and many others are destroying it. Indie is the future! Edit:And Nintendo(Reffering to the devs not the publishers) and South Korean Studios.
@homeaway5418
@homeaway5418 Ай бұрын
And korean games are the future. No Politics.
@MageJiro
@MageJiro Ай бұрын
That's why it's sad why these giant companies buy up all these independent studios. They are getting dragged down with AAA. But yeah, indie is the future.
@snaykerX
@snaykerX Ай бұрын
Amen
@samfisher2141
@samfisher2141 Ай бұрын
I say let it happen, because this industry deserves it.
@mitri5389
@mitri5389 Ай бұрын
​@homeaway5418 lmao ok buddy those Koreans can't make a fridge or a dishwasher...
@joevaghn457
@joevaghn457 17 күн бұрын
What’s sad is that back in 1980-2010, games were so creative and and insanely innovative. But, what goes up, must come down. And unfortunately, things aren’t looking to good.
@YaaSalty...0_o
@YaaSalty...0_o 17 күн бұрын
I don't even know why I try to comment in KZfaq sections anymore because KZfaq removes my comment like 95% of the time. And I know for a fact that isn't the KZfaqr trying to control their comment section by blocking certain words. Not allowed to express your opinions on KZfaq positive or negative anymore well at least in the comment section.
@blisphul8084
@blisphul8084 16 күн бұрын
​@@YaaSalty...0_osometimes you have to run it through ChatGPT to get it to sound different or screw up the grammar so KZfaq doesn't delete it. Posting KZfaq comments is too much work now.
@johndodo2062
@johndodo2062 Ай бұрын
If the executives weren't getting giant bonuses, and they weren't paying off reviewers, triple a games would cost half as much to make. Guaranteed
@TheKingWhoWins
@TheKingWhoWins 21 күн бұрын
The entire model needs to go. Top ➡️Bottom Left ▶️ Right And everything outside of it.
@kojk2545
@kojk2545 Ай бұрын
Triple A gaming has been a complete trash fire of greed and incompetence for over a decade. Indy gaming and AA developers have been going strong, and innovating awesome games. Why are we mourning the death of AAA developers again? I say lets root for more layoffs, more reduction of the AAA space. If Activision Blizzard, Ubisoft or EA laid off 50% of their workforce tomorrow, we should all celebrate. Hopefully some of the developers that actually give a crap are able to transition to a studio where they have a chance to make a good game.
@adamtajhassam9188
@adamtajhassam9188 Ай бұрын
Correction AAA gaming is dead indie gaming is not.
@StayFractalesque
@StayFractalesque Ай бұрын
Exactly, i hope Xbox and MS keeps firing all the great talent they have locked up working on projects they were promised they would never have to, Phil in the media talking about letting creativity thrive hands off style, and then make Arcane make a looter shooter with flipping vampires written by their DEI outside consultants.. bleech.
@ZacBoulton-wb5zy
@ZacBoulton-wb5zy Ай бұрын
Nice point, the bright side of layoffs, really good thinking dude!
@draco_1876
@draco_1876 Ай бұрын
The problem of people are losing jobs because of dickhead shareholders and CEOs
@lolrus5555
@lolrus5555 Ай бұрын
At the moment, the only fucking thing I'm mourning from AAA gaming and Xbox's protracted death is Tango Gameworks getting royally screwed and the painful thought that we won't see any more Hi-Fi Rush content... well, Hi-Fi Rush content that isn't a soulless cash-grab, anyway.
@julilla1
@julilla1 Ай бұрын
This is so awful. I hate this timeline, ngl. I know everyone has to readjust and blah blah blah. But why let go of such talent? It's sickening.
@dandee6331
@dandee6331 21 күн бұрын
I noticed you mentioned "timeline" do you subscribe to the CERN timeline jump? Something is off. Not sure if it was a Thanos snap or a timeline jump but something happened.
@julilla1
@julilla1 21 күн бұрын
@@dandee6331 no, just a turn of phrase to say that I hate what is going on now and wish it was different.
@dandee6331
@dandee6331 21 күн бұрын
@julilla1 oh well there is a theory that is out there that we are not on the same timeline we were on 4-5 years ago....I have heard others discuss it. I mean shit is so weird now I am not ruling anything out.
@TheKingWhoWins
@TheKingWhoWins 21 күн бұрын
Thanos is literal fictional character
@TheKingWhoWins
@TheKingWhoWins 21 күн бұрын
Although something does seem off. Could be me though
@user-ou2tv3wi8u
@user-ou2tv3wi8u Ай бұрын
I’m a 40 year old woman gamer, I just bought my first PS5 (first console other than Atari and Wii) just under two years ago. So I don’t really know much about what goes on behind the scenes, two things solidified my decision to start gaming, the aftermath of covid and the video game Stray. So far I’ve completed Astro’s Playroom, Stray, Ratchet and clank (the two newest games), Detroit Become Human, Heavy Rain and Deliver Us Mars. I have premium monthly so I can try different games and discover what I really like. I really hope I continue to enjoy because I’m having a lot of fun. I have come so far in skill since Astros Playroom 🤣
@johnbartender3451
@johnbartender3451 Ай бұрын
Detroit Become Human is such a masterpiece. This is the game that pushed my to invest into the ps4 ecosystem. I still dont own a current gen console. I’m waiting.
@user-ou2tv3wi8u
@user-ou2tv3wi8u Ай бұрын
@@johnbartender3451 I love Detroit Become Human, I’ve played it multiple times. I don’t really have anything modern to compare it too, but the PS5 graphics are amazing.
@z0s_Icebaker
@z0s_Icebaker Ай бұрын
I had and still have two PS2 consoles, other one got broke at summer cottage during a lightning storm, I was extremely salty indeed! I've been on Xbox since the first Xbox and now planning to get the coming PS5 pro console whenever it arrives, so I'm probably returning to Playstation immediately after few decades!
@user-zx3eo9qr9x
@user-zx3eo9qr9x Ай бұрын
Good for you
@freshhands9461
@freshhands9461 Ай бұрын
Welcome to the club, Lady :)
@xlixity
@xlixity 11 күн бұрын
I warned everyone about this in 2004: The fact major companies wanted to get involved in gaming and seeing gaming try and go excessively mainstream and attract hollywood rejects was going to be a problem. _"But gaming is finally going to get the respect it deserves! It's going cinematic! It's accepted by everyone now, not just nerds"._ Well, do you like what you see? Was it worth it? You think allowing public investors and casualization made gaming better than it was in the 90s & 00s? I sure hope you do. Because all of you who cheered this on in the late 00s got what you deserve.
@Sparticulous
@Sparticulous Ай бұрын
Indie and double A are booming
@snaykerX
@snaykerX Ай бұрын
Yeeees sir
@RAM_845
@RAM_845 Ай бұрын
nek minute, the cult who destroyed AAA will come after AA, Larry Fink will make sure of that.
@justwait9822
@justwait9822 Ай бұрын
No they aren't, the vast majority of indie games never make money. Only like 1% are profitable. Lots of indie companies go out of business daily, you just don't hear about them because they were never successful enough to garner attention to begin with.
@RAM_845
@RAM_845 Ай бұрын
Weird my comment is gone
@The8bitbeard
@The8bitbeard Ай бұрын
​@justwait9822 First, citation needed. Second, if true, I'm not concerned. The barrier of entry for game design is very low indeed these days. Everyone and their grandma can create some low-effort slop with pre-made assets and publish it. This slop outnumbers good games by several orders of magnitude. The good games largely succeed. The slop largely fails, as expected.
@kivie13
@kivie13 20 күн бұрын
There is an old saying "If you don't want to do your job someone else will do it for you". The AAA video game corporations don't want to do their job so others will inevitably do it for them.
@Lightsaglowllc
@Lightsaglowllc Ай бұрын
Best games I've played recently were Helldiver's 2, Stellar Blade, Palworld, Valheim, Lies of P, BG3 and Enshrouded. None of those games are AAA. The AAA studios are screwed and are starting to realize it.
@stuflames4769
@stuflames4769 Ай бұрын
Nice list.
@lemonscentedgames3641
@lemonscentedgames3641 19 күн бұрын
Yep all bangers
@JankelxD
@JankelxD 12 күн бұрын
Elden Ring
@dondada6679
@dondada6679 6 күн бұрын
No one is good to me
@alenezi989a3
@alenezi989a3 Ай бұрын
I mean the downfall of AAA games is a good thing imo, I want games to go back to being good instead of the trash we keep getting. And that's tbh is what the Indie studios are doing, they are the only people treating games as a passion and as an artform. the AAA scene ruined the video game industry and it deserves to fall, I recently played Saviorless, Crow Country and currently Hades 2 all costs 30$ and all great amazing experiences.
@ninochaosdrache3189
@ninochaosdrache3189 Ай бұрын
But Indies also just can't compete with AAA games. I've yet to see an indie game that is on the same level as Halo 3, GTA San Andreas, Assassins Creed 2, Dishonored or Devil May Cry. They just can't compete.
@lycanwarrior2137
@lycanwarrior2137 Ай бұрын
@@ninochaosdrache3189 Not to mention far more indie companies fail then succeed.
@darkguardian1314
@darkguardian1314 Ай бұрын
Never take a company public... It won't end well. Investors are the customers.. Gamers are just being farmed for cash to pay investors. Gamer since 1975... Only mobile games are left...
@krieg938
@krieg938 Ай бұрын
Mobile Gamers are being farmed for cash more than any other though?
@ginocavalieri6121
@ginocavalieri6121 Ай бұрын
I agree with everything except the mobile game thing. Indie games, actual indie games made by independent studios and not a game that looks like an indie game made by a aaa studio, are where the future is. Indie studios will rise from the ashes of these massive aaa studios when they burn to the ground and the developers who have been trapped will take their place to reinvent gaming as we knew it in the 70's 80's and 90's.
@kojk2545
@kojk2545 Ай бұрын
Yikes... you correctly identified the problem, and then came to the conclusion that "only mobile games are left."
@Uryen_Hirasakai
@Uryen_Hirasakai Ай бұрын
Only mobiles left? what a joke mobile games are p2win, also its only for casual gamers
@miguelcondadoolivar5149
@miguelcondadoolivar5149 Ай бұрын
Mobile games are so horribly bad that I simply installed a PSX emulator in my phone and called it a day.
@MrArrow54
@MrArrow54 Ай бұрын
Hard to feel bad for these studios. If they hadn't sold out to corporate interests they could have maintained control over their future.
@matthewzumbo9868
@matthewzumbo9868 Ай бұрын
Yup, they chose political brainwashing instead of making what players want
@AlyssaMcNeil
@AlyssaMcNeil Ай бұрын
This, exactly, the moment a studio sells itself, it's pretty much dead.
@Lightsaglowllc
@Lightsaglowllc Ай бұрын
Correct.
@JamieJonesanimator
@JamieJonesanimator Ай бұрын
But that isn't Tango's fault they were always a AA Japanese developer who made great games people loved. Zenimax bought their parent company Bethesda then Microsfot bought Zenimax which is obvious now all they really wanted from the deal was Starfield, Elder Scrolls and Fallout. Tango already had the innovative title HiFi rush pretty much already made at that time and despite it succeeding in the words of Microsoft in all key measurements. Microsoft canned them anyway probably because they didn't fit what the suits and corpos at Microsoft wanted from the deal in the first place. I even suspect people at Xbox were annoyed HiFi Rush did so well because games like that aren't what they want on their system going forward.
@MrArrow54
@MrArrow54 Ай бұрын
@@JamieJonesanimator that's untrue tango was its own studio that was founded in may 2010. They ran into money issues and bethesda came to their aid and asked zenimax to buy them in oct 2010. They sold out to a corporation in order to pay the bills. Totally understandable but they still sold their ability to determine their own fate and hitched their cart to zenimax.The sad thing is they started a company that couldn't keep the lights on for a whole year before running out of cash and needing to sell out. They were then included in the deal going to microsoft but that doesn't make them any less responsible for selling out to corpos like zenimax in the first place. They became a commodity to be bought and sold or shut down at the whims of their masters at that point.
@nikolasthethief
@nikolasthethief 26 күн бұрын
It's basically the same with EVERY SINGLE BUSINESS out there. Shareholder greed is on a rampage and burning everything in its wake and soon the humanity will collapse again because of it.
@iVETAnsolini
@iVETAnsolini 23 күн бұрын
What Xbox and Microsoft is saying, is basically what someone trying to run a Monopoly would say
@qcbelzebuth7083
@qcbelzebuth7083 18 күн бұрын
Yep, the monopoly game was always the goal of capitalism.
@Hemestal
@Hemestal Ай бұрын
Games aren't dying, the quadruple A, 200 million dollar games are dying. Like, you'd believe that after investing so much dough in a single project, these corporations would be very interested in making sure the games are going to sell but instead they make terrible, flawed games jam packed with mtx like some Frankenstein monster with minimal chances of living. That's why small indie studios need to be mindful when approach by these gluttonous corpos, because they are not trying to invest into them and build up, they are using them as cushion and scapegoats for when then patchwork abominations inevitably bomb.
@ifstatementifstatement2704
@ifstatementifstatement2704 Ай бұрын
That reminds me the hosts on Kinda Funny and Cog on Last Stand Media were all for indies selling their studios and getting a bag full of money.
@theKonfusion
@theKonfusion Ай бұрын
It's a shame. I studied in videogames (Bachelor) and then i moved to making Collectible statues, but Recently I wanted to go back to Games, but with all those layoff, or terribly designed games it terrifies me. If I do move back, I'll try smaller studios/indie. Anyway atmosphere looks better there too.
@sandervr10
@sandervr10 18 күн бұрын
And here is the saddest thing... This way of greed driven business is not only killing the games industry ... Its killing everything it touches
@sb8481
@sb8481 Ай бұрын
You know who would be fine with a "dead" industry? Nintendo and PC gamers. As a PC gamer, when you factor in emulators, I will never have enough time to play the games available for PC and every emulator we can run. 😂🥳
@TheKingWhoWins
@TheKingWhoWins 21 күн бұрын
Not wrong 😅
@lemonscentedgames3641
@lemonscentedgames3641 19 күн бұрын
Yep gaming is just fine as far as im concerned as a PC player. Not enough time to play all the emulatable classics anyway
@snaykerX
@snaykerX Ай бұрын
Ok here is the problem tho, if gamers complain about the lack of originality and space given to new franchises in the modern industry, why do they keep encouraging the same financial models that ultimately lead to those pitfalls, a.k.a gatcha games, p2w games, mobile games and other shitty 4ss products ? We as old school PC/console gamers should unite against the mobile / gatcha systems and draw a line between that and what we value near and dear to our hearth as gaming. We should make it clear that we do not appreciate that in our games, and are not willing to support those models in any way shape or form, for what they mean to the future of the landscape. Imagine if 10 years from now, PC and console games were all monetized like mobile games, that would truely sign the death and the end of it. Hopefully we won't get there.
@snaykerX
@snaykerX Ай бұрын
@@Days_of_the_Righteous That's true and sad at the same time, because it essentially makes you feel powerless against the whole process. No matter how hard our stance might be, we just getting beaten by the sheer numbers behind gatcha/mobile games. Stakeholders will naturally lean towards forcing game studios to implement systems that encourage that type of models and economies, but thankfully we are seeing the opposite also whereas small indies and sometimes even solos capable of shipping full fledged ambitious and original games that do reach big audiences. The growth of AI + democratisation of tech and communication / marketing is an absolute game changer that's already shaking up the balance.
@snaykerX
@snaykerX Ай бұрын
@@Days_of_the_Righteous yeah totally, i like revisiting old classics the same way but the funny part is that the industry noticed that trend and started capitalizing on the nostalgia factor as well, just looking at the recent years and the number of remakes we had.. there is always this stinky smell about those, even if they are technically sound and in every objective game metric superior to their original, there is just this lingering smell of greed and overmarketing that surround the whole thing, makes me sick.
@snaykerX
@snaykerX Ай бұрын
@@Days_of_the_Righteous absolutely this is truth coming out, soulless that's the best word to describe it as you mentionned. I had RE4 and Deadspace in mind when typing, and i have a very complicated relationship still with 7 Rebirth provided 7 R-1 was a pile of bullcrap designed to trap you in a trilogy for again more profit, but how foolish of me to forget about all the absolute dumpsterfire of remakes they made alongside AND still doing in other forms like when they butchered the entire Kratos legacy to made him look like a mortal boomer about to retire, the jedi games and upcoming joke outlaws, the list goes on and on it's endless
@snaykerX
@snaykerX Ай бұрын
@@Days_of_the_Righteous the remake of demon souls was so crappy and egregious that i couldn't physically spend more than an hour on that game before uninstalling it and never looking at it again, just pretending that it never existes to this day
@jonathanpretty5031
@jonathanpretty5031 Ай бұрын
​@@snaykerX Christ! I hate that they took that hot model and butchered her face. Same with the model for MJ in Spider-Man 2. She looks like lord Farquade with that giant, ugly chin.
@ZwiekszoneRyzyko
@ZwiekszoneRyzyko Ай бұрын
At least we got great indie subsitutes.
@eddieford9373
@eddieford9373 Ай бұрын
Soon to be not anymore. Big companies are buying them out and then shutting them down.
@sean7221
@sean7221 Ай бұрын
Then the passionate developers quit and start their own studio.
@SnoobaWookie
@SnoobaWookie Ай бұрын
@@eddieford9373 They can only buy if the indies sell. More and more it's clear than selling your soul to big corps is a massive mistake.
@gavinbissell8847
@gavinbissell8847 20 күн бұрын
This is why they want everyone on a subscription service, once everyone pays no matter what quality tanks. Just look at the movie industry
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan 26 күн бұрын
We killed it when we all bought horse armor. Let's not deny it. If nobody had bought it, it would've quickly died out
@bricaaron3978
@bricaaron3978 21 күн бұрын
I like how you are trying to mitigate your responsibility and make yourself feel better by pretending that _everyone_ behaved like you've been behaving for the last fifteen years. If you've finally seen the light, then I absolutely congratulate you, but there have been many of us who have not in any way supported the ruination of our beloved hobby. Just not near enough of us.
@ironrex6979
@ironrex6979 21 күн бұрын
I never owned a 360 sooo no I’m not to blame
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan 20 күн бұрын
​@@bricaaron3978​I'm being facetious
@bricaaron3978
@bricaaron3978 20 күн бұрын
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan If you were pretending to be part of the problem in order to make your message more palatable, then great. My comment will stand for the 80% of game buyers who have been rushing to throw Top Dollar year after year.
@FelisImpurrator
@FelisImpurrator 12 күн бұрын
​@@bricaaron3978imagine coping so hard that you have to resort to self-righteousness like this to feel more virtuous, instead of just accepting the simple fact that your individual virtue is meaningless and that systemic problems require systemic solutions. Not buying things doesn't magically make the problem go away. Regulating corporations does.
@Scarecr0wn
@Scarecr0wn Ай бұрын
The infinite growth is unsustainable and I am baffled by C-executives not realizing that (or ignoring that). There is only so much you can do to put that arrow upwards, one day it will simply stop being possible. And that day they will realize they have little to no studios, no developers and artists, no trust from customers and the bubble will be fully burst. It´s awful, it´s all just awful.
@kalega311
@kalega311 Ай бұрын
Western AAA sadly will "die" in the artistic sense and they will only make live service and MAJOR IP games. And I mean, like MAJOR in the sense like Wolfenstein, Rayman, even the revitalized Dead Space, etc may not get new games. Indie, AA, and Japanese games are where creativity and variety will still thrive.
@mitri5389
@mitri5389 Ай бұрын
Stfu about eastern devs... 🙄 they are exactly the same, you think they produce only gems? Mgs survive, Pokémon, ace combat those games have died.
@kalega311
@kalega311 Ай бұрын
@@mitri5389 I didn't say they only produce gems. I said they allow for creativity and variety to thrive. Regardless of quality, which is the point. They still pump out tons of non-major IP games, taking risks. Paranormasight, Little Goody Two Shoes, new SaGa game, Exoprimal, Pragmata, Kunitsu-Gami, new Atelier games, new Rot3K games, etc. all came out in the past year or will be coming out.
@miguelcondadoolivar5149
@miguelcondadoolivar5149 Ай бұрын
Ray... Man? What's a Rayman?
@kalega311
@kalega311 Ай бұрын
@@miguelcondadoolivar5149 😥
@miguelcondadoolivar5149
@miguelcondadoolivar5149 Ай бұрын
@@kalega311 It's just a name I haven't read in a long time. I miss him and I despise the rabbids.
@ajedi0770
@ajedi0770 8 күн бұрын
Lonely men that needed to be with other people online and play shooters is what really killed the video game industry, because you killed every other genre, so all the companies went out of business
@DuckAlertBeats
@DuckAlertBeats Ай бұрын
As someone who has lived through nearly all videogame eras, I've never felt more infuriated and depressed, the way these corporations are behaving 🤬 They seem hellbent on ruining everything that was once so magical and constantly surprising. It's mortifying to see what they're doing. You summed it up very well man.
@bricaaron3978
@bricaaron3978 21 күн бұрын
*"I've never felt more infuriated and depressed, the way these corporations are behaving"* That's interesting. I've never felt more infuriated and depressed over the way my fellow "gamers" have been behaving for the last fifteen years. You know what it takes for garbage business practices to thrive? _Business._ (I.e. lots of customers rushing to throw top dollar.)
@DuckAlertBeats
@DuckAlertBeats 20 күн бұрын
@@bricaaron3978 Ok. Can't really disagree with that tbh.
@fligsnurt7835
@fligsnurt7835 Ай бұрын
The modern gaming industry has been in this spiral for over a decade. We're finally at a point where the economy has driven people to a point that they no longer are willing to lose 50-100 on a bad purchase or in some of these cases, paying for a product they are later told they don't have the rights to play and don't own.
@igodreamer7096
@igodreamer7096 28 күн бұрын
"Gaming is dying so it can reborn. Clean, free and full of innovation to bring the most exciting and funny experience that can have. There always will be games, and there will always be gamers!" ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
@mastergreenfox6004
@mastergreenfox6004 4 күн бұрын
This is like an abusive relationship where if you do not surpass the absolute best that currently exist by huge margin, you are worthless. And if against all odds that you do, now you need to do it again with your prior work now being your own opponent.
@StreetComp
@StreetComp 20 күн бұрын
There are hundreds of millions of people around the world who enjoy playing video games, are we all going to suddenly stop playing/buying games? The gaming industry will keep chugging along, with ups and downs, like it has since the 80s.
@radioactivejman9015
@radioactivejman9015 Ай бұрын
We have an everything bubble of epic proportion. The chickens are coming home to roost.
@lycanwarrior2137
@lycanwarrior2137 Ай бұрын
Yep, game industry issues is just a larger reflection of the entire financial/economic system becoming unsustainable.
@trainyourdog7351
@trainyourdog7351 Ай бұрын
As a person whos been gaming since the 80's. I just feel like everything is just some sort of walking simulator, battle Royale or just another first person shooter. 🤷🏾 originality has left the building.
@user-ke3li4yr7r
@user-ke3li4yr7r Ай бұрын
7:41 I loved your explanation of the concept of opportunity cost. It really sheds light on the overlooked times a game "had to be shut down because it wasn't making enough money" when it's actually making plenty.
@Jeagan2002
@Jeagan2002 12 күн бұрын
This is the same issue across tons of industries. They don't seem to understand that constantly increasing profit is unsustainable. They're not happy maintaining 10% profit, that percentage needs to be constantly increasing, or it's a failure. It's awful.
@chefvoyardee7681
@chefvoyardee7681 Ай бұрын
I don’t comment often, but your summary of the current gaming landscape is by far the most poignant and frank, and we all know it’s true. Great video.
@xiRePeNTx
@xiRePeNTx Ай бұрын
This is probably THE BEST breakdown video of the entire situation. Even someone outside from the scene coming and watching the video will understand the corruption of this industry
@JeremyBX
@JeremyBX Ай бұрын
I wanna say "im so depressed" but recently indie games have been kicking major ass and keeping me afloat.
@Jolgeable
@Jolgeable 15 күн бұрын
The problem is not with entertainment itself (thumbnail: "gaming is dying"). The problem is thinking that the area can only exist through the current industrial model. What an American thing.
@Lagbeard
@Lagbeard Ай бұрын
Between hiring extra bloat in the form of DIE employees, paying for consultants to alienate your customers, marketing and store cuts... AAA Games have to sell tens of millions of copies at above full price to start breaking even.
@astreakaito5625
@astreakaito5625 Ай бұрын
thanks for that ending in particular. Lately it feels like everything I care about is truly over, but this is a good reminder that maybe we'll find a way.
@rokmare
@rokmare Ай бұрын
You know the industry is in a bad place when AA games/studios can’t avoid closure and wasn’t the whole point of game pass meant to support the creation of AA games on the service
@whytchywooo
@whytchywooo 12 күн бұрын
They forget the most important part: if the consumers don't like your product you fail. The failure of Goliath will ultimately result in new companies that understand this concept.
@M3TAN0IA
@M3TAN0IA Ай бұрын
no, games are fine. Mega Publishers are dying.
@dominika3762
@dominika3762 Ай бұрын
The title does say Triple A in the brackets.
@hansgunsche3207
@hansgunsche3207 Ай бұрын
At this point, let it crash.
@twobellz
@twobellz Ай бұрын
Quick question, what Star Wars game is being shown in the video footage during the first two minutes?
@Pandaconda69
@Pandaconda69 15 күн бұрын
Its Helldivers 2
@twobellz
@twobellz 15 күн бұрын
@@Pandaconda69 I went I and purchased it straight away and absolutely love it!
@patrickhenderson8988
@patrickhenderson8988 Ай бұрын
Absolutely spot on analysis. Never heard of you or your channel until just now but I'm a fan already. Subscribed.
@BuffaloMotivated
@BuffaloMotivated 21 күн бұрын
They’ve priced themselves out. $70, even $60 is too much to risk paying for a game that might suck.
@kaseyboles30
@kaseyboles30 20 күн бұрын
I remember when $40 was only for the top tier AAAA games. And that was considered pricy. AND you got a hardcopy you could install from. Now you pay $60+ to download something that could be taken away for no cause and no recompenses a short while later and with to high a chance it's buggy crap.
@biazacha
@biazacha 17 күн бұрын
Or a game you’re sure that you’ll have to buy at least two DLCs later….. no way I’m burning 100 bucks on a mess full of bugs and worst gameplay than the previous titles of the same franchise.
@syklsd2556
@syklsd2556 Ай бұрын
Its not stupidity its intentionally malicious.
@cyberhard
@cyberhard 20 күн бұрын
Movie studios claim movies don't make money all the time. Where do you think the gaming companies learned this "one trick"? Look up Hollywood accounting. The probably is these huge companies are allowed to get bigger and bigger still. The smaller companies get swallowed up and competition suffers.
@seannapier2298
@seannapier2298 Ай бұрын
And this is partly the reason why people are turning to retro gaming and emulation, along with downloading ROMs; people want to go back to the simpler days when gaming was about fun instead of trying to milk the customer for all their worth like with live service games.
@VasagosAngel
@VasagosAngel Ай бұрын
This got nothing to do with gaming. Every business around the world is doing this. Dig in and research it, and you will be surprised. And the only reason that it works, is because of people buying their products. Gaming is fine. There have been lots of great games last 2 years. More than any "normal person" with a real life values and priorities outside gaming, have time to play. Just stop buying the bad games, made for milking money and enjoy life 👌
@dominika3762
@dominika3762 Ай бұрын
It's not that there weren't good games, it's that the big companies did massive layoffs. So yes, it is failing, if you think you can't keep your employees in you company.
@rclaws3230
@rclaws3230 Ай бұрын
They're extracting western wealth so that when the globocommunist shift hits, the corporations will be in position to remain in power in perpetuity. And the socialists are eating it up.
@Phrosnite
@Phrosnite Ай бұрын
People need to look into how profit gets split after the sale of a game, movie, etc. Too many people think that, "Oh, it cost 100mil dollars to make and made 200mil so it was successful". This couldn't be further from the truth. Even without the marketing budget those numbers are still not good. To be fair, are publishers greedy? Yes, they are but people most often don't have all details and are misled by statistics.
@anorouch
@anorouch Ай бұрын
Not our problem. That's a game company/investor/publisher problem.
@Phrosnite
@Phrosnite Ай бұрын
@@anorouch I'm not defending the gaming industry in any way. I was trying to nudge people into educating themselves, especially youtube pundits who are suppossed to inform people of what's happening in the enternainment industry and not spread misinformation and look like fools.
@neoblackheart746
@neoblackheart746 16 күн бұрын
I have just told myself no more AAA I will pick up the true indie games and that's it
@rexsmith9577
@rexsmith9577 4 күн бұрын
What? The video games industry is dying? Just because the big game publishers are in trouble? I don't think so. The Indy game industry is stronger than ever.
@Alpha17x
@Alpha17x Ай бұрын
Triple A is collapsing, which is long overdue. Bloated budgets, bloated teams, no agility, bottle necks everywhere. Gaming is fine. Big publishers need to experience a humbling.
@Simon-ml4lu
@Simon-ml4lu Ай бұрын
Rush 2112. Greed ruins everything.
@careca6547
@careca6547 Ай бұрын
What a masterpiece! 🎸
@wallycunningham5090
@wallycunningham5090 2 күн бұрын
Holding your head to compose yourself/stop a headache before explaining why a 2-3x $ return is 'losing', was the correct move.
@docskiDev
@docskiDev Күн бұрын
Developer here.. this will most likely never happen but this would be easily solved if most influencers/streamers would start focusing on games they actually enjoy and not just games that "makes the most money" but this will never happen. Also I'd say, gamers has a whole have been quite aggressive towards non-AAA games that dont "meet the standard", by comparing everything to "the best game" - creating impossible conditions for most devs because they know they cant compete with modern expectations. My vote? Support indie/smaller studios that are making games similar to what youd like to play - even if theyre not there yet, why? Keep in mind, most of the games we love, halo, call of duty all started off feeling more like indie projects rather than the corporate beasts they are now and with support those teams can get there. I dont think we're gonna see improvement from the AAA side, theyre in too deep.
@klittle5627
@klittle5627 Ай бұрын
What matters most to publishers and many developers is not only the almighty dollar but is also the almighty religion of ESG&DEI. You should not ignore that latter. Stockholders AND Stakeholders (look it up) are killing games.
@anna-flora999
@anna-flora999 Ай бұрын
Who's actually acknowledging a huge part of your audience going to ruin the industry?
@nick8243
@nick8243 Ай бұрын
ESG and DEI are actually good principles that encourage environmental responsibility and acceptance and fairness. Of course right wingers hate those things and want to pollute and discriminate.
@shadowwolf8434
@shadowwolf8434 Ай бұрын
​@@anna-flora999If it's such a massive part of their audience that wants this how come it's failed at every turn
@anna-flora999
@anna-flora999 Ай бұрын
@@shadowwolf8434 maybe because the games in general just suck, and would have sucked just as much with an all white cishet male cast
@Yodalemos
@Yodalemos Ай бұрын
​@@nick8243 The ideas can be nice, the implementation, not so much.
@yslaar
@yslaar Ай бұрын
Definitely a topic I feel like I've been harping on so long that I feel like a person walking around with "The end is nigh!" sign around my neck... but not in the Rorschach kinda way... As much as I want to see AAA collapse under its own greed and see a restructure of the industry that uplifts AA and Indie development to new heights, I don't want that to be at the cost of the human devs that are getting screwed over and destabilized in this greed machine. I hope all of the developers that suffered under their capitalist money factories are able to find footing and take their talent into companies and games that will appreciate and support them, but that doesn't take away from the hundreds and thousands of blows this industry has received over its lifetime. Unlike other media entertainment industries, video games are so unregulated, unrepresented in unions, and unstable, and it's time that changes. It's way past that time, really. If we want to have a healthy industry with fresh IPs, happy and innovative developers, and great support, we have to bury the current industry with regulation and votes with our own wallets. Support only those games and companies that deserve it; it's the least we can do.
@Johan-rm6ec
@Johan-rm6ec 17 сағат бұрын
Not the gaming industry is collapsing but civilization.
@ytd589
@ytd589 3 күн бұрын
Excellently said. Unfettered executive compensation and investor greed is completely unsustainable and killing not just gaming but every industry we love or depend on.
@ktrimbach5771
@ktrimbach5771 3 күн бұрын
Public companies are there to be mined for their value. It is not sustainable.
@drewpatterson8261
@drewpatterson8261 Ай бұрын
I'm 37, the apex of gaming was in the early 2000's and the very early 2010's. I pretty much stopped gaming by the mid 2010's. I didn't like where the industry was going. When Activision released the original COD: Modern Warfare back in 2009 that's when everything started going downhill. It was the first game to break into the mainstream and catch the attention of Wall St. investors. Every studio, developer, publisher desperately wanted to replicate COD's success.
@homeaway5418
@homeaway5418 Ай бұрын
Game studios are failing because of too much micro management and they are deviding their audiences with politics that most gamers dont agree with.
@biazacha
@biazacha 17 күн бұрын
People playing gamers don’t give a shit about politics, agenda, wokeness, whatever. Just a loud minority goes around crying about it, if a title is satisfying to play and offer an unique experience, that’s all that matters.
@MustacheMerlin
@MustacheMerlin 21 күн бұрын
When your company forgets that they're selling a product and not a stock and sacrifice the product for the stock, from that moment your company is on a time limit circling the drain. The really funny thing though is that the executives actually do know that, they're not stupid, they're very smart (usually). So smart that they know they're gonna be out with the big bag of money long before the time limit runs down, and then it's somebody else's problem and they're chilling on a yacht. It's so common it's a playbook, you can watch it happen in every company in every industry like a bad cliche where you've seen the story before and know exactly what happens next.
@YaaSalty...0_o
@YaaSalty...0_o 17 күн бұрын
Really appreciate this video you've taken a lot of my thoughts and put them into words.. I get upset at the situation and then my thoughts get clouded
@freedomis4all
@freedomis4all Ай бұрын
This is probably the best explanation yet to date.
@thagomizer8485
@thagomizer8485 Ай бұрын
Negative. Western AAA gaming is collapsing and they deserve it.
@KeithDart
@KeithDart 20 күн бұрын
Most of the better games today are from Europe.
@LateNightGhost
@LateNightGhost Ай бұрын
Excellent video. I'm always happy to find new channels with intelligent analysis of gaming and movies. You got +1 subscriber
@Toastcat890
@Toastcat890 Күн бұрын
The entire entertainment industry is rotting due to greed they're making products purely for profit and not to entertain
@istrumguitars
@istrumguitars Ай бұрын
This is how runaway capitalism works. When you have video game publishers like EA and Activision-Blizzard answering to shareholders and not gamers, we get what we have today instead of games made for us. This isn’t a phenomenon limited to gaming either, it applies across the board in virtually every industry.
@ragingmonk6080
@ragingmonk6080 Ай бұрын
Zenimax was bloated when MS bought them. That is how they ended up trying to manage 9 studios worldwide and getting nothing done right. There are a lot of us that wanted TES6 and Todd Howard was like, we gave you an Elder Scrolls with ESO. That is not a TES game it is a online microtransaction cash grab. Starfield: That is what BGS made instead of TES6 that we asked for. 1000 planets of nothing and do you know why it is empty? It is a huge blank canvas for Creation Club (Paid Mods) so it can be milked long term. Patches for the game come to Steam as a beta and is tested before official release. The Creation Kit (mod tools) beta was only given to paid mod creators for testing, to give them a head start. So come 11/11/24 it will be 13 years since the last TES game launched and it will be another 2 or 3 before a game is delivered. But it is not about shareholders. Todd Howard bragged that when he bought his Tesla he told them to give him the most expensive model they had. He thought that was amusing.
@thomascrohan7810
@thomascrohan7810 13 күн бұрын
It’s sad, I wish all gaming companies were private and not publicly traded companies
@chadsoltys4127
@chadsoltys4127 2 күн бұрын
Corporate greed is destroying not only gaming but the world in general.
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