"with so many idols inlisting they could have a mini concert in there" IM DEAD.

So if a woman says, not I'm not here to be an object for you to get off on, they turn around and call her names? I want a soldier to tell me what kind of sense this makes.

Let's be honest here. Regardless of age, any woman would be absolutely terrified to be in a room or space with only men.

I believe Taeyang and Daesung did a little concert while they were in the military. So did some of the guys from Shinee. And it looked like the military dudes were all having a blast with them too, so, yeah. They can definitely have concerts with the artists that are already enlisted and still boost morale

As a girl who grew up in military barracks and around soldiers bse my dad is a soldier....its not ideal to perform or have mini concerts....trust me..some dudes are dangerously creepy and objectify peaple ...I wasn't exposed to creeps luckily but I did hear lots of unsettling things around

i’ll never get over the stayc one, they were literally children and they were hit with “misandry allegations” and i never took misandry seriously ever since

with the average idol age getting younger and younger, its so scary to think what can happen. They're completely unsecured and anything can happen without being noticed.

"The soldiers can get entertainment themselves" lol

This is so scary tbh…

Yeah but idols also get younger so it’s weird if they would perform

I'm glad it stopped cause kpop idols are becoming younger day by day and it'd be so dangerous to let them perform there

Specially since now idols are way younger than before…it’s weird performing infront of grown men

extremely awkward watching this after viviz performed maniac at a military base

Instead of targeting the soldiers themselves, why are we not looking at the military leadership and the toxification of the culture they are perpetuating? If the soldiers are harassing the female stars, why isn't their chain of command brought in? Why are they not implementing proper security protocols and standards? Their leadership needs to be held accountable for safety and security as the stars are performing on military installations. In addition, the personnel who are screening the groups and scheduling the performances need to be fired. Young stars who are not mentally or emotionally stable to perform in front of an all-male audience needs to be weeded out. They should schedule older, more mature groups who can handle the stress and excitement. In addition, increase the budget or schedule fewer performances. Also, why can't they schedule more guy or co-ed groups?

Yes and it's not beacause all of a sudden you are 18 or 21 that your are ready to be inappropriately touched or apprehended by any one ....At NO age Basically.

Shocking that they would behave like that towards the female idols, its completely wrong so its no surprise they don't want to perform for them

it will be good to add security for female idols this is true even at normal concerts nobody know what type of ppl are present there so its better to organize it well and there is a security line present inbetween the stage and the audience

As someone who served in mandatory military service (not in SK) I kind of understand how hyped man can be when we see even a average looking woman after being in our camp for weeks. There is no reason to have physical contact between the performer and the soldiers, there are a shit ton of weird people in the world and being in the army don't help for some and the performer should be protected from them. Underage idols have no place there it's just conceptually disgusting just no. About the tissue paper part (imma try keeping this PG) not to justify it and all but we're just pent up both mentally and that way likely for the first time in our life, it's more of a hunger/thirst thing rather than malice towards individuals for most people. I think their management has to do more than enough to protect the performers and prepare them in advance mentally. And for soldiers stop it wait till you go home ffs.

Wonyoung was actually just 14 :/

Disgusting.... utterly disgusting 🤐

That’s scary. Literally

If it’s purely for the sake of entertainment these soldiers should be perfectly fine with boy groups performing there, but they’re not and we know exactly why😨

Yeah, the setup needs to be changed. The soldiers can be entertained by a variety of talent: comedians, singers, their own talent show (without valuable idols), impressionists, whatever Korea has to offer. There are women who will go on stage and can handle the craziness. Because the men have only been with men, the women will be the highlight of the show. I’m thinking it’s more appropriate with someone like Jessi, though. She’s much more mature and she can handle the flirting and joking back and forth. She likes people looking at her. There should be space, though. No hands on the entertainers. The men haven’t seen women in months. This is huge eye candy for them. It can be done by a successful artist as volunteer effort, just for the troops.

I was in the army and I can imagine what would happen if a girl group came to entertain us. Just don't.

Omg 😲 this looks more scary 😨 female idols needs more safety

this is so creepy. have there been any 4th gen idols that performed in the military?

It's almost like a right of passage/team hazing for the gg's. It's weird. I understand the thought process, but maybe just let the gg's themselves decide if they want to perform there or not. And it has to be unanimous.

They r not object who can entertain you they came in this field to fulfil their dreams not for soldiers imagine u get surrounded by tons of man's and they r touching u inappropriately its so scary and horrible thank god its not like this these day but I beg ro company to protect girls and don't let them go to militery

If I put myself inthese womens shoes... I get horrified. This is digusting. Men need to do better. I doubt they would enjoy it if they where put into these situations.

"with so many idols enlisting they could have a mini concert in there" agreed

Thank god it's not normal anymore for groups to perform for soldiers. The whole concept is weird af

It's always sad when a minority ruins things for the majority. Most of the things described in this video are just vile.

All idols should do concerts not just girl groups

It may have came from the World War days when American use to send their girl groups to boost soldier moral.

Not that I disagree with what you are saying but adding to it. I would say a few things 1 since the US had such a big hand in the defense and their help in setting up of the country's democracy they pulled a page out of the US's morale boosting handbook. The USSO used to have a lot of moral boosting events during the major wars. Sending not only female singer and groups but comedians and such to do show for the troops. 2 Since each male idol has to do their mandatory enlistment they already have the built-in bonus of having them there, since girls don't have to do enlistments it mean they would have to seek out companies to send the female artist in for "concerts and event". So those are the two reasons that comes to mind because of what I have seen the male idols do, including musicals and singing events with the military band stuff.

Why are they performing infront of grown men anyways…

It's normal for guys to feel attracted to them but they need to have body guards to protect the females performing or security. It's not rocket science. That way everyone is safe and can enjoy 😉 themselves.

Man if they sent new jeans into their concert they will never come out... It would be complete chaos

Also kep1er performance military soldier also Dayeon got scared

“No more tissues in the bathroom”💀

This is so weird 🤮🤮

is there an audio glitch around 0:48 or is my computer broken

Just made me think of comfort women lol

With STAYC? Really...

I think this video is just taking things too seriously and trying to make a big deal out of it for views tbh lol. I mean, it used to be a treat for the soldiers who have been doing service for the country. It's not like they require girl groups to perform for them annually lol. And pretty sure girl groups have no say on that coz it's their management who decides if they would have an appearance or not. And most of the recorded performances are actually from variety shows, so no one's getting harassed or being demanded to perform. This social media era is just full of sensitive people who craves for clout that's why they make a big deal out of the simple things or anything to get attention. Chill out.

My former team from a multimedia company had collaborated with so many Korean entertainment companies...and let me tell you, THIS IS NOTHING compared to what some of these female idols have to do behind the camera to keep their jobs. These companies fool you with their bubbly, colorful and light visuals, but behind of it all lies the dark side of this industry...I'm not gonna name names, but we've worked with around 25 Kpop groups, from A-lists to not-so-popular ones, and I personally know 3 female idols who had to sleep with the Casting Director and Music Producer...you'd be surprised as to how normal it is around their circle, it's like an open knowledge to them but they just don't make a big deal about it, if that makes sense...

Its true

Men☕

This video made me appreciate Nxde by (G)I-DLE more

What is singing dan dancing has to do with morale? Is it about working hard as a soldier that you lose your morality? Every job in this world is hard and anyone can lose their morale anytime. The soldiers can just watch their favourite groups at home or anywhere if they have time. They are in military to serve for the country, not to get free ticket to watch people dancing. Seeing how some of them treated the female idols as puppets and doesn’t care about their well-being just shows how backward and twisted their mind is. The worst is most of them are still teenagers. The soldiers just want to fulfill their desire and not for the sake of the idols. The fans did the right thing on protecting Stay C from this madness. As for the soldiers who respect kpop idols by just admiring them as a fan, respect them and not going overboard, I would say they’re the best.

I remember when sister go there and what they did with them

Imagine new jeans perform in these military. I mean the new GG are all average 20 at most.

Off topic, but the singer Mina looks like a completely different person from the World Cup photos and it's not due to age. I literally paused and went back because I was confused. It's a shame that in the span of time between the year of the World Cup and now, the beauty standards have shifted so drastically and so negatively.

nine muses are nugu???

7:18 ew, just, EW

I think groups like EXID or sexy style groups can perform there, but not minors for sure

3:56 WTF ?!?!?

I was agreeing with a lot except with the described definition of "Misogyny," she described.

I'm pretty sure America's Army is like this too.

This video is too exaggerating for its topic. There has been hundreds of gg performing on military bases, most of them were recorded, but only a handful of such incidents. Claiming that all female idols refused to do it based on very few is just poor take, tbh.

I can see why

K then let women be conscripted and let male idols perform👍problem solved

men , itself is disturbing i never saw or heard anything good about them

A moment. You can not condem this and approve Crazy Horse or you find this disgusting, which is, or support Crazy Horse, that after all do the same the same for a bunch of rich people. Wich one is it?

so , people are offended that men get motivated by seeing beautifull women.. but , its LITTERALY one of the best motivation boost ? yeah , its motivating to see a beautifull woman dance , no matter how hard you argue XD if there was a women only military , im 100% sure boy band would be there , and would get mollested because sasaeng women have a LOT less self control than saseng males XD

Hahaha the video person totally took a underhanded dig at BTS at the end saying BTS should have a concert in there without actually saying it

If im a girl id be scared of men too

Sounds like a discipline problem.

this is shocking...

This is disgusting , objectifying these women

those poor girls, I don’t think that male fan wasn’t watching that music video multiple times. Because they were a fan, that was a creep. Doing stuff behind the scenes. That’s why he watched it at least 4/3 times.. 🤮🤢 how sick..

I feel terrible fo mina. Poor girl all she did was perform. She got harassed by not just one but a group.

They should get Five Fingger Death Punch or Avenged Sevenfold instead. 😅

WONYOUNG TOO?! I MEAN EVERYONE LOVES HER BECUZ OF HER VISUAL AND TALENTS BUT THAT IS CREEPY AF.!

Boy groups are not favourable in military. There is even some videos how different their performances being received. The cheering has different meaning I suppose. Not all but I assume some use those performances for keeping their fantasies alive. And thats very most reason why gg are popular there.

The whole of BTS is in the military now. What better way to serve their country than lifting morale with performances?

What stupid take on Idols performing for Soldiers.

I personally find it really gross when the men start cheering anytime a girl does a sexy pose or reveals her butt to the crowd. It's disgusting when anyone does that. However, that isn't very different from the normal fans in concerts that I've seen--women cheering one men when they lift up their shirt or thrust, fans cheering when blackpink does twerking on their concert stages, etc. I think the over sexualization of Kpop in general is gross and is getting worse with each year. The clothes are skimpier, the dances and lyrics more sexual, and the fans more aggressive about seeing more of it.

1:59 it's not misogynistic lol

1st💜

i dont agree with this. i feel like it would be no different than performing anywhere else. im not going to say that none of the soldiers are creepers or that none of them really say degrading things, but you have those things anywhere, its part of being a public figure. there are good and bad people no matter what the setting is. also its not really up to random people on the internet to decide what the girls should and should not do. i dunno, i guess it just seems like its an opinion piece

Recruit 1: "Great to finally see girls after all this time" Recruit 2: "Too bad it's not a boy group, that would impress girls on the Internet more" Recruit 3: "I wish I could see them better, they're 200 feet away. Guess I'll go to the bathroom now and use up all the tissue. That sounds realistic, right?" Recruit 4: "I'll post it to the Internet right away."

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This is not to condone any behavior, but the soldiers are pretty young themselves. Most of them are in their early 20's

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All I hear are excuses

“Men like women….which is gross and misogynistic.” That’s as far as I got on this video before I realized I was listening to a middle schooler making content for elementary schoolers. Have fun with your channel.

Blame management, not the military. Whenever you have a concert, no matter who it is, where it is, concert goers are not invited to interact with the singer or come on stage. You are basically setting yourself for some sort of incident that way. With that said, the incident with Mina was probably 20 years ago, years before even girls generation debuted. Technically Mina is considered a first generation idol. I think we can let go of the past. With proper security, barriers and deterrence from the military, nothing remotely like this will ever happen again. Even without any of that, nothing remotely like this has happened since.

A lot of military recruits are still teenagers, and they act like it. Teen boys do stupid things. There is a simple solution. When a girl group is asked to perform at a military base, request some Military Police or Senior Sergeants to provide extra security. The Sergeants will gladly do so, and they are professionals. Also, no Recruit is going to risk ticking off his Sergeant.

I'm not gonna lie..... being an idol is a contract filled with deals you like and don't like....they picked their poison unfortunately

So... on civil concerts we having creepy guys too....btw what different is between screaming guy and screaming girl on concert, i was few times alreday on kpop concertss, and young screaming girls can act pretty insane about their idols? Double standards? About underage.....BLAME companies, why we tolerate underage shaking butts Newjeans??! ALL idols should be adults, no children idols! But don't blame adult men cheers wild over adult sexy women. What about Lisa- stripper?? Everyone are ok what she done, and damage idol image, but if men like sexy performance everyone get woke! NOBODY should be forced to do what isn't a comfortable, but let be honest music industry will never be good and shiny, because world isn't that either, and every idol should be aware of that and be prepare for this.

I think this video was blowing the whole thing out of proportion.. Yes the female idols need to be protected more and minors should not be invited, but I don't think adult GG's going for military concerts is such a bad thing.

This type of video only serves two things, to show that this channel knows nothing about what happens in Korea and that it loves misandry

Make women serve mandatory 2 years military service also

Two years mandatory military service takes a toll for young men because they are forced to gave up some individual freedoms just to protect their homelands. Majority of young men who served grew up poor and many didn’t have relationships before they joined the military. Two years nothing but drills, getting yelled at by your superiors and more drills takes a lot of you mentally. Majority don’t see their families for long time and had wait to get letters from them. What do you expect when they behave when female K-pop groups come at their camps.

Why does mina look like that we are talking about twice mina right?

Disgusting.... utterly disgusting 🤐