The Reason Your Bass Drum / Kick Doubles are Trash - Drum Lesson

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Josh Merhar

Josh Merhar

4 жыл бұрын

Getting two fast, powerful, precise strokes on the kick might feel like a real strain, but that's just because you're trying too hard. The less you try, the easier it is to use this technique. Praise be the slide!
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@VerkoAviarhidea
@VerkoAviarhidea 4 жыл бұрын
Bold of you to assume I can do doubles
@uthatoneboii2664
@uthatoneboii2664 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to order a big mack
@94crx31
@94crx31 2 жыл бұрын
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@starlord1177
@starlord1177 2 жыл бұрын
@@94crx31 no it’s Taco Bell sir how may I take your order
@94crx31
@94crx31 2 жыл бұрын
lemme get a fuckin uuuuuuuuuuuuh
@jonathansnowden439
@jonathansnowden439 2 жыл бұрын
@@94crx31 lmaoooo
@yuriselukoff
@yuriselukoff 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m totally onboard with this technique. I’m a beginner drummer, and fast double kicks used to kill me. A month ago, I switched from one teacher to another, the new guy watched me playing on the very first lesson, and the first thing he told me to try is this exact technique. I came back home, practiced it for an hour, and from that moment on I’ve been kicking those fast doubles like a boss! Very easy! And loud too!
@JoshMerhar
@JoshMerhar 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@chaddavis5787
@chaddavis5787 2 жыл бұрын
How do you get at fast speed with chopping
@joeforbes2885
@joeforbes2885 2 жыл бұрын
@@chaddavis5787 practice the chops from slow tempos to fast. That's the only way I know of, I doubt there is a shortcut.
@daveprice5911
@daveprice5911 3 ай бұрын
​@@joeforbes2885yep. to add to this, never ever underestimate super slow practice, put some good time into playing things slow af. And don't rush upping your bpm, make sure you are playing comfortably and cleanly before you go to the next bpm
@kingskidgirl2
@kingskidgirl2 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't think I'd EVER get the slide technique, then one day I noticed I was doing exactly that: trying too hard. I needed to utilize the spring motion of the pedal coming up from that initial 'push', to make the second stroke effortless. There's a definite feel to it. Once it clicks, it's like "Oh THAT'S what they're on about!" 😁
@grberkh
@grberkh 4 жыл бұрын
The visual is a godsend
@whythebob
@whythebob Жыл бұрын
I watched so many slide technique videos. Yours was so so easy to understand. Thank you so much!
@ScrubbDoesStuff
@ScrubbDoesStuff 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely INCREDIBLE video! This clears up sooo much heartache and doubles as amazing practice
@nfaaudio8412
@nfaaudio8412 4 жыл бұрын
Yes mate! I've been trying for ages and youre totally right, i was trying too hard. Thankyou, this improved my double kicks in about 2 mins
@DevinJuularValentine
@DevinJuularValentine 3 жыл бұрын
So useful. Every time I have seen someone do this it's been on long board pedals with size 10 billion feet, so you clarifying it's not the pedal or foot size helps me know it's got to be the mechanics of the movement and to keep trying.
@ChromeJHawk
@ChromeJHawk 4 жыл бұрын
Good job on explaining this technique. Also showing straight and swung 16th. Kudos!
@JoshMerhar
@JoshMerhar 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@PeterKudelin
@PeterKudelin 3 жыл бұрын
this is actually an incredible video. all the others ones i was having marginal luck with but i practiced this for like 5 minutes and now feeling SUPER EXCITED. thank you
@absolutearcher
@absolutearcher 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, this cleared everything up for me. My doubles sound great now!!
@jimenezd0700
@jimenezd0700 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I’ve been playing for a long time as a weekend warrior drummer and the kick drum is always the most difficult. You’ve helped me tremendously with getting different kick drum sounds and beats and of course speed kills
@JoshMerhar
@JoshMerhar 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you find this stuff helpful. Thanks for watching!
@AllezJuniorTennisMagazine
@AllezJuniorTennisMagazine Ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. Been struggling with double strokes for decades until this vid. Helped perfectly
@howtoteachscience
@howtoteachscience 4 жыл бұрын
I'm working my way into a solid intermediate player and this is very timely. I will share it with my Learning Drummers group and get started on this this week. I'm working on some Bonham stuff and getting ready for a show in December. These kinds of bass beats are necessary for that. Thank you for this.
@JoshMerhar
@JoshMerhar 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and happy practicing!
@cardboardboat5831
@cardboardboat5831 2 жыл бұрын
Helped a lot thanks. I feel somewhat confident with my doubles now!
@thetruth156real3
@thetruth156real3 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed that you have personally answered some people’s questions in the comments,,,that so cool of you man!👍👍😎
@gaulvankey2678
@gaulvankey2678 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly can’t thank you enough. Earlier today I wasn’t able to play any doubles without tending up and getting off beat, but now getting them out is a breeze.
@DZNTZ
@DZNTZ 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this. A lot. I’ve never seen this broken down so well and made quite so approachable. I play heel down, so I’m always a little unsure of the bass double techniques that assume you’re playing heel up. But this seems like something I can easily transition to from a heel down position. Quick doubles is something I just haven’t developed well, and I’m ashamed to say I’ve avoided them a bit. I’m off to practice! Thanks man 🙏
@briiakarii
@briiakarii 9 ай бұрын
This is the best video I've seen yet showing and explaining this.
@GianMayI
@GianMayI 4 жыл бұрын
U a real one I been hammering them out for years
@JoshMerhar
@JoshMerhar 4 жыл бұрын
Just gotta stay loose. Thanks for watching!
@Shanoa
@Shanoa 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for the tips. I love the sound of your snare and kick
@samguna
@samguna 4 жыл бұрын
Oh wow!! Will have to practice this...now this makes sense to me.
@tmiller499
@tmiller499 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic demo of this technique and a nice practice exercise. Hopefully I'll get this down.
@teis79
@teis79 Ай бұрын
Prefect explanation dude, thanks a ton!!!
@leoehgartner
@leoehgartner 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent lesson! Thank you Josh
@shamdoggo
@shamdoggo 4 жыл бұрын
Woah, never thought to use HKKH or KHHK patterns before. That's actually really useful, thanks for sharing!!
@JoshMerhar
@JoshMerhar 4 жыл бұрын
You got it. Thanks for watching!
@SuperCleary
@SuperCleary 3 жыл бұрын
This video has me figuring it out in 20 minutes. Thank you!!
@Fortunefellas
@Fortunefellas 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid bro. Just bought a cheap drumset for more sounds for my arsenal and this was helpful. Finally I’m just getting the double kick but haven’t saw any of these variations.
@jjmusgrove1851
@jjmusgrove1851 4 жыл бұрын
Great lesson. Enjoyed it. 🥁
@brockji5368
@brockji5368 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks this video was super helpful and really easy to understand 👍
@boynamedlen
@boynamedlen 2 жыл бұрын
Very useful! As a beginner, it's hard to figure out what technique works best for me because they all feel unnatural, especially heel-toe. What you say is true, my fastest doubles are the ones where I'm not even trying and my leg just does a spasm x)
@first_namelast_name274
@first_namelast_name274 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos I’ve ever seen on this topic
@TooMuchTemper
@TooMuchTemper 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap this is a tremendous help. Ive been trying so hard to hit that double without matchin it with high hat.
@bufftheson9578
@bufftheson9578 4 жыл бұрын
Maaan! Thank you! My foot is so heavy and slow. This was perfect.
@JoshMerhar
@JoshMerhar 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you find this stuff useful. Thanks for watching!
@jakubskyba2375
@jakubskyba2375 11 ай бұрын
I like your videos, they actually helped me.. other people here are like here is how to do it but it somehow doesnt work like probably the mistake is on my side but when you explain it it somehow works for me thank you very much for these videos
@ajb-drums
@ajb-drums 4 жыл бұрын
Former lifelong try to hard person here. Slowing down, relaxing, and firming up your technique is the way. Great video and love the exercise near the end. Definitely stealing that for my practice.
@JoshMerhar
@JoshMerhar 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, forcing yourself to stay loose is much easier said than done. Thanks for watching!
@Harry1garu
@Harry1garu 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Pretty cool techniques.
@katefokina5119
@katefokina5119 4 жыл бұрын
Good Job!!👏🏼🥁
@Ultra-Collector
@Ultra-Collector 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone teaching this on a normal pedal! I’m sick of people easily moving 300+bpm on a $1000+ Trick and or magnetic trick pedal and telling new drummers that this is possible for them if only they use their techniques and method! A first year drummer dies not understand trick pedals yet and are much less likely to ever attain those kicks! Thise are half stroke,half rebound full force ballistic pedals you’re seeing in other videos! This vid is more real world and much more valuable! Thanks Crisis
@Doyledrumz
@Doyledrumz 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome tips! Thanks man 👍
@JoshMerhar
@JoshMerhar 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you dig. Thanks for watching!
@matthiasrambally1899
@matthiasrambally1899 3 жыл бұрын
I would say the biggest thing that hindered me for years was trying to hard to go fast too soon .....the best thing is to start slow and stay there for like a month getting everything down till it becomes muscle memory then slightly increase the speed every two weeks
@chaotic291
@chaotic291 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! This is really helpful for me and as someone who only uses heel-toe technique on a long board pedal for doubles
@JoshMerhar
@JoshMerhar 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I'm glad you find this stuff helpful.
@Sasfraz
@Sasfraz 4 жыл бұрын
Are there downsides to heel toe?
@JoshMerhar
@JoshMerhar 4 жыл бұрын
@@Sasfraz Nah. Heel-toe works better for lots of drummers, but this works better for me. Different strokes for different folks!
@Sasfraz
@Sasfraz 4 жыл бұрын
Josh Merhar oh okay thanks I just wasn’t sure if I should get outa the habit or not
@1olpoorboy
@1olpoorboy 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I’d have discovered this a long time ago. Oh well. Now I wanna buy a kit just to do this
@user-kl7pj2is5x
@user-kl7pj2is5x Жыл бұрын
Wow, beatiful intro! Very cool groove
@andrew007s
@andrew007s Жыл бұрын
Excellent video!!
@ginostrings
@ginostrings Жыл бұрын
Great way of teaching this thank you.
@fidelthomas2787
@fidelthomas2787 8 ай бұрын
Great video…. Perfect teaching!!
@UKnowtheThing
@UKnowtheThing 5 ай бұрын
I think you've shown this the best I've seen it. I didn't understand it until now. Now if I can just play it...
@shahfacekillah
@shahfacekillah 3 жыл бұрын
Cool lesson. I'll try it. RIGHT NOW!!!
@randyroderick
@randyroderick 4 жыл бұрын
My kick doubles were definitely trash. Your explanation really made this technique (that I've already tried before) stick. Thanks 🙏
@mikepalmer2219
@mikepalmer2219 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks this helps a ton!
@td-12kx53
@td-12kx53 3 жыл бұрын
Great lesson!👍
@noahgodines8704
@noahgodines8704 2 жыл бұрын
This helped me an insane amount
@nathan8911
@nathan8911 4 жыл бұрын
bro thank you sooo much the second i tried this i knew this was the one
@somebloke13
@somebloke13 4 жыл бұрын
Nuff respect brother!
@SunandSnowGardening
@SunandSnowGardening Жыл бұрын
Helpful. Thanks!
@SevanStick
@SevanStick 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what i was searching for.
@starlitekaraoke113
@starlitekaraoke113 4 жыл бұрын
Great lesson
@WavePotter
@WavePotter 3 жыл бұрын
Nice touch showing the smaller pedal and debunking the rumors!
@trevormcmanis
@trevormcmanis 4 жыл бұрын
American One Productions Rehearsal and Drum Studio in NJ gives this video two huge thumbs up 👍🏻👍🏻. Thanks for sharing 🥁
@JoshMerhar
@JoshMerhar 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Timbales1979
@Timbales1979 4 жыл бұрын
I love the Pearl SSC. I own one in Sequioa Red.
@nathanyazzie9044
@nathanyazzie9044 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@ben4thewin
@ben4thewin 8 ай бұрын
I've been trying to increase my kick speed and I can do it pretty fast just normally, but when I'm in an actual song and I'm trying to play a little louder I find that I'm too heavy footed and I can't get the rebound that I need. This technique worked really well for me and I can actually play consistently now. Thanks so much for the vid!
@joshualewis8077
@joshualewis8077 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I needed this I guess
@mcaralte3043
@mcaralte3043 3 жыл бұрын
bro thank you.. I am learning from this video.. i got progress... Thanks thanks....
@kenusmusic
@kenusmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks brod.
@user-ih3hf5iq3v
@user-ih3hf5iq3v Жыл бұрын
Great channel
@marcelfilbig1778
@marcelfilbig1778 Жыл бұрын
i find this technique very useful as a beginner, however over time i found myself needing to learn a different technique to increase endurance, precission and specially the shuffle ba-bang sou d that is so important for the feel
@IPLAYPEDALSTEEL
@IPLAYPEDALSTEEL 3 жыл бұрын
GENIUS!!! Thanks!!!
@mflance7197
@mflance7197 3 жыл бұрын
Now this is a kick ass video
@floydhalilintar2850
@floydhalilintar2850 6 ай бұрын
thank you!
@jessenoneofyobussines7560
@jessenoneofyobussines7560 2 жыл бұрын
The whole lateral notion he explained makes sense cant wait to focus on this
@CSSZiegler
@CSSZiegler 4 жыл бұрын
This technique is my signature groove that all musicians turn their heads trying to find my other kick pedal when it's only just one pedal i have
@thewigon
@thewigon 4 жыл бұрын
Samuel Ziegler dude, once you can do triple kicks you feel soo much cooler, cause people typically think I’m using a second pedal or kick
@qhajajsshsks6107
@qhajajsshsks6107 4 жыл бұрын
Mia Khalifa
@nternetrat
@nternetrat 2 жыл бұрын
sick haha!
@CSSZiegler
@CSSZiegler 2 жыл бұрын
@@thewigon I know what you mean bro
@Cloud_Strife_19
@Cloud_Strife_19 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@bdesh8655
@bdesh8655 4 жыл бұрын
awesome. carry on!!!
@dagconst1
@dagconst1 3 жыл бұрын
Ty sir
@markuskison
@markuskison Жыл бұрын
Hey Josh. Thank you so much for the vid! It is great that you show the technique so clear in a nice long video shot. I use this technique since a while and there is one prob that I have from time to time with it: when I lift my foot from the pedal before the first of both strokes, then my beater makes a small move towards the head and sometimes touches it. This cannot be heard in the practice room but on the recording you hear it. Do you have any ideas how to avoid this? (it seems that my foot slightly pushes of the pedal to get up high which causes the problem) THX!!
@Chiroman527
@Chiroman527 3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated Lesson,Josh. What shoes do you wear? I find that the type of shoes have a bearing on "sliding" the foot in this manner? What level do you keep your Throne Height? and angle to the bass pedal? Stephen Clark on YT also describes this movement,with some Super Slo-Mo, but you are showing the progressive speeds applied. I like it. If I can the knack of this, I will be able to return the Double Bass pedals I just purchased. One is a Mapex DB pedal (main and Slave), the other is a Cannon Twin effect (similar to a Dualist II,) with a Heel and toe pad on the same pedal. That takes a lot to get used to. At 69 YO, and having returned to playing drums after a 51 YEar Hiatus, now in retirement, to play for enjoyment at Home, I find it difficult to master this quickness with my right leg... But I guess, Practice makes Perfect.... I'm not playing Gigs nor do I think I will be in the near future (unless someone starts up a Geriatric Band here locally by me ), but play to MY Music: CCR, Clapton, Petty, Stones, Beatles, Springsteen, Mellencamp, Steve Winwood, Eagles, Hollies, Kinks, Cars, and more....
@declancampion3051
@declancampion3051 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alot
@brucemoxley4300
@brucemoxley4300 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I have been getting frustrated because my foot seems slow.
@evoleye6065
@evoleye6065 3 жыл бұрын
Been playing for ever..can't do this.. I will try this and see if it works for me. Hope to report back with positive results
@brianchisnell1548
@brianchisnell1548 3 жыл бұрын
You otta try a mid 70's Slingerland Yellow Jacket. Double spring. Swings a solid wood beater with ease.
@Plydrms
@Plydrms 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again. Would you apply the slide technique to the "Immigrant Song" by Led Zeppelin? I was thinking that's such an endurance workout, wondering if slide would reduce fatigue.
@edvanesch178
@edvanesch178 Ай бұрын
That's the good stuff. They use this in a lot of those Gospelchop drumfills.
@jamesriameigmp
@jamesriameigmp 4 жыл бұрын
This is awesome
@richone2540
@richone2540 4 жыл бұрын
You pretty much touched into the fundamentals of gospel chops with the 'HAND-KICK' patterns, believe it or not.
@sergioandresrodriguezcor-nf6mk
@sergioandresrodriguezcor-nf6mk 3 ай бұрын
Excellent video, thanks. What do you consider is the best tension spring if I’m a beginner and I want to develop this technique. Also what do you consider best for an entry level pedal: Iron cobra 200, DW 2000 or Pearl P930. I appreciate your opinion
@abishakbhai738
@abishakbhai738 Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir soo much I Am trying so much to learn double kick I can another ways easily but I learned to play drums based on hearing. Your video is a life saver 🫡
@vaughanxaviermusic
@vaughanxaviermusic 2 жыл бұрын
I like the fellow musician noodling in the background lol
@joehoffrage
@joehoffrage 4 ай бұрын
This is great vs some of the others wherein you tap with the toe then drop the foot which I can’t perform as it becomes way too mechanical; question is about spring tension, is it better to use this with a more loose setting?
@MroTralisk
@MroTralisk 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@basildog007
@basildog007 Жыл бұрын
Woooow it works well!!!
@edoardozampetti4601
@edoardozampetti4601 3 жыл бұрын
hi Josh I wanted to ask you if it can be useful to put some talcum powder under the shoe to glide better and have faster strokes.. thank
@bobandgang5411
@bobandgang5411 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video! Can I ask. Will there be a tap sound on the pedal board? Tap sound when you strike both notes.
@tazman5344
@tazman5344 4 жыл бұрын
I tried but I play heel up so it was quite a weird angle for my foot, if possible could you recommend or make a video about heel up techniques?
@Plydrms
@Plydrms 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Josh, you're one heck of a player. Do you sometimes switch foot techniques, or keep it pretty consistent? I find on any given day I might play the same song with a different technique. Sometimes I feel OK with heel down on a song. If my foot gets tired, I might start switching to the slide. Sometimes I can feel alright with Samba doubles heel down, other times its tiring..I play with slide. I don't know why that I feel like switching sometimes. With all of your training, would you say this kind of normal?
@gvaratta
@gvaratta 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, question: I use the Speed Cobra as well, however I broke the factory spring twice already. I tried a heavy duty spring but my forward stroke gets restricted even at its loosest tension. Are u still using the factory spring and if not, do you recommend a certain spring? Thanks in advance for your reply
@JoshMerhar
@JoshMerhar 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Yeah, I'm still using the factory spring. Haven't had an issue with it yet, but only had the pedal for about a year and a half so far. The only thing I swapped out is the beater (using a felt Vic Kick).
@munalestari3451
@munalestari3451 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks you
@eddiecornell2386
@eddiecornell2386 4 жыл бұрын
03:55 sounds like "Purple Stain" by RHCP
@kentmenkens9527
@kentmenkens9527 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, this was actually the technique I was looking for and you demonstrated and explained eloquently and concisely, so thank you for that!. The one concern I have (I play a 24'' kick and I like the resonance) is that, as your double's sped up, you tended to "bury the beater" in the head, so the second (arguably more powerful) stroke gets muted. I currently work on an electronic kit (Harts Dynamics w/mesh heads so that I don't piss off the neighbors or our cats [too much]) and trying to bury the beater always results in the double-tap on the last stroke. What would you recommend for controlling the rebound tap from the final stroke of a double. I've got the kick mesh head on the e-drum as loose as it can be and still offer some rebound. Maybe it's a pedal spring adjustment? I know there are a lot of factors in dialing in the proper control (throne height/position, pedal spring tension, beater angle, etc.), but I feel like your insights are spot-on and you can help me with my ergo's to get back to a comfortable/natural play feel. Thanks a ton for all that you provide! You make us all better "monkeys" (as guitarists like to refer to us)!
@Nigel-nv3lr
@Nigel-nv3lr 2 жыл бұрын
I play on a regular kit and have the same issue. I play doubles best when burying the beater but it always results in extra hits. I've tried loosening the head and using different beaters but the same always happens. Have you found any solutions?
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